User talk:Marc Fonz

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Proposed deletion of Italian Apocalyptic Cult "Rosary Prayer Group”


The article Italian Apocalyptic Cult "Rosary Prayer Group” has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * A morass of WP:POV and WP:OR and not a little WP:SYNTH this article needs a brutal edit to see the wood form the trees to even discern whether it is notable. At present it requires WP:TNT

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Fiddle  Faddle  12:28, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Copyright issues
Hello, Marc Fonz.

I just wanted to drop a note regarding the uncertain copyright status of Italian Apocalyptic Cult "Rosary Prayer Group”. I see from your notes on the Italian Wikipedia that you are seeking to send in permission for this material from the author you are closely summarizing. We need that, too, in order to display the content. Can you please update us when the matter is resolved on the Italian Wikipedia? If you come by my talk page (at User talk:Moonriddengirl) and let me know, I'll be happy to make the necessary adjustments on our end, if the release accords with our own policies.

Beyond that, though, I do have to let you know that resolving the copyright question does not mean the material will be retained. As you probably have noted, another editor doesn't think the article should be kept because it isn't necessarily what we usually include on the English Wikipedia. I've had a glance at the material, and I can understand and do share his concerns. Our articles may seem very dry, but what we look for here is a straightforward and neutral summary of what reliable sources have to say about notable subjects. We would never say something like this: "First we want to carefully analyse the only document signed by the group together with the informations obtained in the covert participant observation." And that's because on Wikipedia, it's not only not our job but forbidden for us to analyse sources. :) You can see "no original research" for more about that.

While you can't necessarily follow too closely on other Wikipedia articles (since we don't have editorial review, they might contain errors at pretty much any time), you might want to take a look at Harold Camping by contrast. It includes material about Camping's 2011 "end of the world" predictions and how they did not happen. Each sentence is a neutral summary of what its source says about that event. Neutral and well-sourced - those are good watchwords to keep in mind while editing here. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:44, 24 September 2013 (UTC)