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I need help sir..
Hi again marcus, its me joey i need your help about my 2nd article its because the surname of my article is not in Capital letter..i dont know how to change it. i hoping for your reply..thank you so much in advance. Joeymcortina (talk) 07:44, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 07:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help again..:) Joeymcortina (talk) 08:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No probs!  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 13:20, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

i need help again sir.. i dont know why is that my added reference is not appearing in my wikipedia article but when i log into my account it was posted there..how can i fix that?? hoping for your reply..sir Joeymcortina (talk) 13:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you mean. What reference, on what article? Perhaps the ref is to a website which is blacklisted? I'll need more details though, to know what you're referring to and what you tried to reference, exactly.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 14:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

sorry sir for not giving the clear details..the title of my 2nd article is "Rafael Corpus" and the reference that i added is *, it only appears in article when im currently log into my account but when i log out and search again my article my added reference is not posted.. Joeymcortina (talk) 03:32, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Not sure what's happening there, I see the ref'd book you gave just fine. Could be a caching issue. Try adding "?action=purge" in your browser URL bar, so that you get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Corpus?action=purge, next time, it might help. If not, it could be that your browser isn't clearing its temporary internet files, and is displaying an older copy. Try pressing Ctrl and F5 together, to refresh the page from the server. Other than that, 'fraid I don't know what else could cause it, sorry. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 03:47, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

thank you so much sir for the help i will do it and if it still doesn't work, is it okay that i will not need to put the reference in my article?.. 119.93.79.35 (talk) 04:18, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. It is there, no doubt about that. Seems be a problem with the visibility of it, from what you're saying.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 04:24, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

then i will not delete my added reference and wait till it will appear in the article without log in my account. thanks again sir. Joeymcortina (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies for putting my prominent proboscis in here, but I don't understand. The reference is visible when you're logged in, but not visible when you're not? In any case, I'm logged in (which I always am; I don't edit from my IP) and I can see it. Or at least I think I'm seeing it. Maybe you should post the issue at the village pump (which I don't have a link for, but you should be able to find it). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 08:18, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It might be Village pump (technical). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 08:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't make sense to me either. Cookies (when logged in and out) shouldn't affect what an article looks like. Unless we're talking different PCS or browsers here. Otherwise, it makes no sense at all. So yes, Village pump might be the best bet in that case.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 13:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Artistic work
I saw your work on the project talk page. Well done! I wonder if you could also create something as complcated as Nachtjagdgruppe 10 emblem? Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh heck! That's a small image to work from, hard to see the detail, and nothing bigger on Google to look at. I'll give it a go, though. Should be able to get a close approximation with a little time and patience. Will get back to you. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 17:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm working on this now.. Photoshopping, but keep getting distracted by ingrates, playing childish games on ANI. What are the letters on the emblem? Looks like "Tllo" or "Illo" - also, because of the low-quality of the one I'm working off, I may have trouble matching the shade of red used on the text and boar tongue.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 20:46, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * See thumb. I haven't done anything in SVG format before, having just got Adobe Illustrator I've converted it from Photoshop format instead of just a PNG. The copyright info may need updating also, as well as categorising. Do as you feel fit, in terms of Commons data. Any problems, with the image itself, please let me know.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 00:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, great job! No sorry I have difficulties myself making out what the lettes are. My guess, and I will try to verify this, is that it is "Illo". It could be a nickname of a wife or girlfriend. Thanks for the time and effort. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:10, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No probs. Although I created the original copy, someone else has titivated the SVG I uploaded, mainly due to some quality issues based on my lack of technical experience with Illustrator. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 06:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Mechanized corps (Soviet)
Thanks for the badge you did - that's great! Would it be possible to go back to that page and create badges for all the corps we have articles for at Category:Mechanized corps of the Soviet Union? Or even one or two? Cheers and many thanks, Buckshot06 (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be possible, only I can't tell which insignia at http://www.wio.ru/tank/oz/oz-en.htm relates to which article in the category. It would be easier for me if you indicate which of those images you would like reproducing from the page, and which article they relate to, and I'll see what I can do. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 19:09, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. No problem - down on the right-hand side is an insignia for 10th Guards Tank Corps; that's an earlier version of 10th Guards Uralsko-Lvovskaya Tank Division. Could you do that one? The others we actually don't seem to have any other line-ups.. Thanks muchly.. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's the one? You'll need to go to Commons and categorise it. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 19:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you sort this, as I don't see any articles listed for its usage?  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 04:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added it now. Thanks very much for your help. Might you consider doing a couple of RNZAF squadrons? I'd really like to fix No. 40 Squadron RNZAF. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

What do they need? Insignia? If they need patches with crests like that low-quality on 5 Squadron page, I probably wouldn't be very good, as it's more elaborate detail what will the crown and trim, whereas I'm probably better suited to doing flat icon/logo/flag/roundel type images at the moment, being new to vector images. Can't see one on the 40 Squadron article, though. Let me know what's needed. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 10:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Davina Reichman (2nd nomination)
This page is for discussion as to whether the article Davina Reichman should be deleted or kept. I would urge you to confine your contributions on the page to that single question, and not to allow yourself to be drawn into debates on any other topic. Cusop Dingle (talk) 20:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011
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November 2011
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 * To coin an old phrase..."oops!" —  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 08:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Fisting
Did you bother to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ADroidfetuses C T J F 8 3  23:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Uhhh, that link shows a different one so it isn't helpful. And FYI Simonxag is not banned. How can he be Brucejenner? You reverted Droidfetuses on 9 Dec, and Simonxag on the 10 Dec. Even if they posted the same thing, why is one banned and one not - socks should be banned too. Right?  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 23:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed the banned user's comments, as I linked to the block log above. Simonxag reverted my removal of that banned user's comments, so I reverted Simonxag explaining the user is banned, and it is proper to remove their comments. C T J F 8 3  23:31, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at my edit summary, "revert Simonxag, banned user, their edits get removed" I can see where the confusion came from, and I'll be more careful specifying who the banned user is. C T J F 8 3  23:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, my fault too.. I took the edit summary literally. I thought Droidfetuses was the first sock of Brucejenner, and Simonxag yet another sock repeating the "oppose" !vote. I see now that he reverted your revert and then by moving it he made it look like it was his comment. Sorry, bit of confusion both ways, it seems.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 23:37, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ya, while I was in the shower I was like Marcus probably just read the summary instead of looking at the difference...so I'll take half the blame if you take half :) C T J F 8 3  23:47, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at the diffs originally, but only made sense of the second one, just before reverting you, and I realised the first diff was a revert itself not long ago, and that was the missing piece to the puzzle. Let's keep it simple: blame Simonxag, he started the mess, lol!  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 23:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Works for me! C T J F 8 3  02:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My apologies if my opening seemed snarky. C T J F 8 3  23:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it's fine, was fair enough due to the minor confusion. Sorted now though.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 23:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Your knowledge might help
Marcus you state that your knowledge is mainly military, good it might be able to help give me direction in an issue that I was invovled in and trying to figure where to go to resolve it. Here is the artcile on The Troubles, you will see in the info box the correct use of flags the Union Flag and the Tricolour , and nothing for the others , however Warrenpoint ambush has the usage for the flags for the IRA and British army. Disscussion here on this and here on Operation Flavius have lead to inconsistency. From my understanding flags can be used in military infoboxes, and from my understanding the use of flags in these boxes relates solely to the military of that state , in this regard the incorrect use of the tricolour. Am I wrong in trying to remove this from the IRA side of infoboxes? And where would I go to get this sorted ? MOS relating to flags and icons or military history ? Murry1975 (talk) 09:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Flags in articles relating to battles/conflicts/campaigns/wars normally use the most prominent flag of each participant. I don't think it has to be the country flag.. for example, some WWII battles use the Nazi swastika rather than flag of Germany, although either would probably be acceptable. In the case of a terrorist organisations or para-military forces you're going to have to determine if that force had its own flag icon to use, initially. If not, and if the IRA did use the Irish flag, the Republic flag of Éire, then you need to realise that it is just history. By not using the flag they used, even against the population or government's wishes, you would be denying the truth. Wiki is not censored, not toned down just because people don't like things that happened. WWII German Army articles still use swastikas, even though it's illegal symbol in Germany, because it was history it can't be rewritten to suit the detractors. Though I can understand that the majority of the Irish population did not support the IRA, and wouldn't want their national flag tainted by having it represent a terrorist group.. if that's what happened, it happened. No two ways about it. Armies don't always represent the state. The Confederacy of the American Civil War represented itself, the Union Army represented the state. A whole new flag for the rebel cause. Despite claims today that it is a "racist flag" (bullshit) it still flies in many southern states, because it is part of their history, it represents their fight, personal cause, and sacrifices rather than the CSA's desire to keep slaves, as is claimed. I suppose it's equally fair to say that the Irish flag represents the cause and fight of the IRA, but not so much the country and true Irish people, despite their intentions, and lacks the same form of sympathy because of their methods, especially against civilian targets. They were a minority effort. You could ask on WT:MILHIST for advice, although I don't think I've ever seen anyone on there with interest in Irish history, specifically that period of conflict. But they may be able to give general advice and suggestions on whether use of the flag is within norms. Alternatively, as WP:MOSFLAG states that flags should not be used in infoboxes, and despite the fact that most military articles do it, because it does in fact look good, and not distracting, you could opt to remove them. To be honest MOSFLAG says don't, then gives a load of reasons when you should, which are about all situations, so it just contradicts itself, which is typically unambiguous of Wiki.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 10:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice and help. The flag pre-dates the state (from mid-1800s) and has always been used by various republican groups since then and by all forms of the IRA (THE IRA, and then the offical , provo ,and so on). It just seems like a contradiction use it in the Troubes to define the security forces of the state and the paramilitaries who didnt recognise the state or its army as legitimate. It is an oddity to look at two infoboxes within the Troubles Cat and see it representing both sides . And again thanks for the help , I agree with Wiki being contradictory - guidelines that state one thing and then state another and the mother of all. Thanks Murry1975 (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Books
I've got alot of books concerning Z Special Unit in World War II, which of course is my main period of War. I'm willing to do anything in the 1900 - 1999. But since I was still in High School in 1996 and took History for 2 years we focused on anything upto the Cold War and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Besides that and my two Grandfathers being involved in World War II. Anything earlier, than 1900 like ACW or something like that, I'm not that good at. I'm sure I will give it a go though have helped some users with the ACW articles. Even Poland and USSR (1919-1920) straight after World War I which I didn't even know much about.

I've also got alot of computer books which are now outdated and would be hard to sell since they are not only out of date but they are also Hacking books worth around $80 AUD each at the time. Also have three books of Kevin Mitnick. Adamdaley (talk) 06:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I once studied the ACW in college for a whole year, as a free choice topic.. loved it, and got a high grade. Overdid it more than anything. Unfortunately the 15 min long Powerpoint presentation I made doesn't work any more, but I think I lost the CD.. had dinky midi tunes and maps of troop movements I drew, plus the epic music from "Gettysburg" movie. Always liked WW1/2 but more to read and watch than write about. Loving the Napoleonic War though, and French Revolution. I love wars fought in mass formations, that's how a man fights, imo.. not all this crap with snipers and land mines and long range attacks. Got to admire any man who can stand and face a huge block of thousands of men or cavalry advancing on him.. that's honour and glory to me. Love the uniforms too, compared to camo gear, flamboyant reds and blues, amazing. You won't find it any harder than modern wars, the names of formations (squad/battalion/company/regiment/brigade/division/corps, etc) were much the same, only the scale and tactics have changed.
 * One of my grandfathers was in WWII, Royal Artillery gunner, fought in the major Battle of Crete. Became a POW from that until war's end as the Allies lost that one, unfortunately. Not sure that my other grandfather did. Home front I think.
 * Most of my computer books are out of date too, mostly software books.. PHP/HTML standards and browsers move on and books become useless.
 *  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 06:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * One of my Grandfathers fought in the Battle of Crete. He was mainly over in Europe, and North Africa, until the Japanese got into the Pacific Ocean and the Islands above Australia and then that's where he kept fighting he was accepted into the Z Special Unit which of course I don't know what he did for those 8 months or so then the War ended and was discharged from Z Special Unit instead of his normal Division.  Adamdaley (talk) 06:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh really? Cool.. doubtful that our granfathers ever met, but hey.. small world! How did he get away though, when the island was surrendered to the Jerries? I've got s book coming from Amazon on the Battle of Crete, funnily enough.. be here in a day or two.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 07:02, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * He was evacuated with part of his Division as well as the 2/2 and 2/3 Bns and engineers before the Jerries arrived while they didn't know why, but Headquarters decided to bring them back and regroup while leaving 2/1 Bn on Crete intact. Adamdaley (talk) 07:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * He was lucky.. my dad says his father never spoke about the action, only that it was rough. Looking at the article though, ~4,000 killed per side, I can image that it probably was. I'm looking forward to reading about it though, in more detail.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 07:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * MarcusBritish, I've got a whole chapter on it from my Grandfathers' Division which one of the fellow soldiers wrote while he served in the War and he survived also. Unfortunately, he has passed away in the past couple of years.  Adamdaley (talk) 07:48, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is the one I've ordered. Only has a few short reviews, but they make it sound good. All my grandparents are well gone, 3 when I was still a kid. My grandmother (of the soldier in Crete) was a nurse during the war, she wasn't in London but she saw (or heard) the V-1 rockets fly over a few times.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 08:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I feel for you mate. What you did was good for wiki but your methods were a bit lousy to be fair. Ignore these admins theyre just bullies and most of them would backstab their own mother in the hopes the wiki foundation will pay them a salary one day, especially that ErrantX who is at the Ireland MOS discussion now filling your boots and trying to act like a politician who steals the glory for winning a war when he didnt do the fighting. I agree it was you who put a stop to a plot that admins also turned a blind eye to. Its all for show, ErrantX said above he hates the way you talk down to him but look at how he acts all superior to you thinking he knows why you do this and that. Its whats wrong wif this country mate. The reason you got called a nationalist is because you seem to care about British values where these lot dont have a clue how to be human let alone British. Most of them are losers who think wiki is all a show of power. Put it on their headstones "I died a wiki admin", probably a lonely virgin too. 217.114.215.250 (talk) 14:47, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Am somewhat ambivalent about this, although it has its merits at points. Being British, or American, or whatever nationality you want to identify as, even Jewish in some places, is much about tradition and respect for culture and heritage, rather than just flags, borderlines, some past Empire or nationality disputes in Scotland, Ireland or Australia. Too much "political correctness" is adopted these days, which is the spawn of the Devil. I'll be rolling in my grave before I ever become PC or adopt any extreme establishmentarianism views. It makes men into mice and nations into non-entities. I'm too lazy to be proactive about it though.. if people want to freeze their balls off camping in squares and protesting whilst chained to trees, that's their choice. But yeah.. being British to me is about where we came from and what we represent as a culture, not where we're heading.. which is downhill. Roll on WWIII.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 22:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I got a good laugh out of the afffair several times. I get a laugh out of the "sad old woman" photo. But in the end I'm not able to cheer you up. If the affair were to succeed in getting that guy topic banned it wouldn't make much difference because there are loads of other guys like him and Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anybody can edit. As for the administrators, I don't have experience dealing with them and I intend to keep it that way. I see that the administrators in this affair who took any interest took little interest in the substance, too much interest in tone. They didn't like your tone, you found out. I find nothing the matter with your tone myself. I got a big laugh out of the TROUBLES part of the affair, and I think it was your incredulous tone that did it for me. I also think a person should be let have any tone he wants whatsoever and let him be judged on the substance of what he's saying. Good luck in life, my friend. Seanwal111111 (talk) 15:05, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you seem to be easily assumed by things.. so glad I amuse someone. I found your post here interesting, though still a little one-sided. I do not believe that people should be described as Anglo-Irish alone, it is an ambiguous term which is great for defining class and heritage, but does sod all for distinguishing nationality, hence leading to many disputes. However, there is always a solution as I applied and was praised here. That's what really gets up my fucking nose that these bloody jumped-up clueless admins don't get the difference between a fixed POV, and maintaining a NPOV by opposing a POV but not promoting a polarised POV. If opposing rewriting Anglo-Irish to Irish (or even British) is "POV pushing", then that would mean anyone who opposes describing someone as "having gay-leanings", instead of "bisexual" is a homophobe. And I suppose being agnostic instead of atheist or Christian is religious intolerance too. Of course that's not true either. Just too many fuck-wits wanting to manufacture motives and agendas to mask their own detrimental behaviour in all manner of ways. It's not about protecting information in their case, but about manipulating and controlling it. And that doesn't go for cabals of editors, but many admins too. Plenty of them use their tools to distort articles. If they did that in a respected company they'd soon be fired. If they'd done it under the Soviet rule they'd be shot, ironically. Not sure which is the better option. I think shooting people who abuse information for gain has potential, under "treason". No different than politicians who steal from the public. I'd have gladly shot them too.  I'd make a great executioner.. but the JobCenter doesn't have a SOC code for it.   Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh  &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 22:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Personal Library
Thanks for telling me about the Personal Library section. I've added my name. Hope to see you contributing soon! All the best. Regards, Adamdaley (talk) 03:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers, Adam. Looks like you have a good set. Loved the note on not endorsing Mein Kampf, amusing but wise. ave you had any luck with getting the ACW Dyer's Compendium set from Amazon? Haven't yet found a complete set on the Amazon UK site, for myself, only a few individual volumes, but the prices are horrendously high. Saw a few on Amazon US, which doesn't surprise me.. better prices but the postage is often higher that the books, and exceeds UK price. Will have to wait and see if anything else shows up one day, though I'm in no immediate rush.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 04:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll probably get the ACW books next month sometime. But the seller has agreed to send them to me.  Adamdaley (talk) 07:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Highcliff Nab or Highcliffe Nab?
Hi Marcus - there seem to be two spellings for Highcliff(e) Nab for your photos. Francis Hannaway 18:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Highcliff Nab, no 'e'. My fault: slip of the finger, or bad habit. Have corrected it now, thanks.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 02:15, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you know, and I don't want to appear rude here just to advise you informatively, that your signature does no comply with WP:SIGLINK? Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 02:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know ... but I always put 4 tildes. I'm too lazy to do anything else. Francis Hannaway 21:39, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Signatures are "designed" in My Preferences/User Profile once, you only need to define something like "Francis Hannaway talk ", save it, and then continue using four tildes as normal.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 22:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Senior gunner
Hello Marcus,

I accept your point about Napoleon's not being chief of artillery at Toulon, but the term "senior gunner" still jars my ear - it sounds like an NCO rank. I'm sure it's wrong. Do you have Cronin's reference available so that we can check it?

Thanks a lot and best wishes!

Bazuz (talk) 21:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Vincent Cronin's use of "senior gunner" is on page 87 of his "Napoleon" biography. He does not use the modern form of inline referencing, and generally seems to reference a few of the main points per chapter at the back of the book. I checked Philip Dwyer's biography, and although he doesn't use the term "senior gunner" he does not label him as commander or chief of the artillery either. At one point he mentions that he was the only "artillery captain" whose plans were trusted, although that does not really provide context here as we know he was a captain of the artillery anyway. It does suggest that there may have been a number of captains at Toulon, and Napoleon became senior of them. Sometimes someone has to be in charge when there are several officers of equal rank around, I can think of no more suitable term than "senior gunner", which clearly describes his position rather than a rank, and is a genuine military term that cannot be ignored. See Seniority. Have you seen that scene in "Zulu" when Bromhead (Caine) and Chard (Baker), being of equal rank of lieutenant, determine who has seniority based on when who was commissioned first, despite Bromhead being most experienced? That's a good example of "senior officer" being applied, also. Although in this case Napoleon did actually have a superior, Jean du Teil, so he couldn't be designated commander of the artillery.


 * Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 03:34, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of British soldiers in the eighteenth century
The article British soldiers in the eighteenth century you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:British soldiers in the eighteenth century for things which need to be addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Nikkimaria. As you may have gathered from the article history, I am not the creator of the article. Just had the luck to come across it at WP:RFF and recognised its potential, amongst the array of dull promo and non-notable stuff usually found there. The article was written by a history Uni student, who doesn't contribute too much to wiki atm. I'll be able to address about 90% of the points you mentioned easily enough, mostly copy-editing and minor rewrites, well within my capability. The other few, such as the points raised under Images, may need her input. I'll drop her a message once I'm done if I'm having trouble; I don't think I'll need more than a week, but she might need a little extra time to respond, assuming she's interested in getting it to GA status. If not, I'll just have to see what I can do myself. Cheers,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat &bull; RFF] 15:17, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXIX, November 2011
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48 hour block
I confused darkness shine with his blocked friend JCAla both of which are discussing conspiracy theory's about someone trying to trap them into some edit war kindly message me so I know your talking about since the discussion page is blocked109.150.60.235 (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2011 (UTC)