User talk:Marcywinograd

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Marcywinograd (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2019 (UTC)== How does one edit for additions to the CA Sister Cities page on Wikipedia? Incomplete list--can't edit due to "transclusion." ==

I live in Santa Monica and see that the list of our sister cities is incomplete and should include the additional cities of: Cassino and Sant' Elia in Italy, as well as Kizugawa, Japan. http://www.santamonicasistercity.org/sister-cities.html

I also see that Alameda is incomplete and should include the additional cities of Jiangyin, China, Dumaguete, Phillipines and Yeongdon-gun, South Korea.

Another incomplete entry is Sacramento, which should also include Bethlehem as a sister city. https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/sacramento-sisters-with-ashkelon-1.5284621

I tried to edit the page, but I couldn't because of "transclusion."

How do we fix this? I imagine there are probably many other incomplete entries and that this "transclusion" document is out of date. I recommend we not "transclude" but actually post the most up-to-date information with credible links.

I would be glad to volunteer to do this.

Thank you.

Anonymity
Hello Marcywinograd,

You posted a multi-part question at the Help Desk and I tried there to answer part of your question. I did not have the time to discuss anonymity in editing because I was leaving for a family gathering. I am commenting here rather than at the Help Desk because I will share some personal information and want to have the discussion in a lower visibility place.

You asked: "What is the criteria for becoming an editor with editorial control over protected pages? Are there any transparency requirements for such editors to identify by name and bio who they are? If not, why not? Has there been any deep discussion about the problematic nature of having anonymous editors with editorial control over a site designed to engage democratic participation?"

I tried to explain that the concept of "editorial control" in a formal sense is alien to the Wikipedia ethos, although it should be obvious that highly experienced generalist editors who participate in many topic areas and in many of the "back office" administrative functions will be more influential than "newbies". This is not because of any "special powers" they have, but instead because their arguments are likely to be more persuasive based on their long experience and understanding of policies and guidelines. Consensus is the decision-making process, and any editor, even the newest, is welcome to participate in any discussion about improving content. If a very new editor's comments are based in policies and guidelines, then they will immediately be accepted by other editors. However, new editors who persist with wrongheaded notions about how this encyclopedia operates will eventually be ignored and their opinions disregarded.

On to the issue of anonymity. Deeply ingrained in Wikipedia culture going back almost 19 years now is the ideal that people can edit if they wish without creating an account, and that people can create an account if they wish without providing an email address, a real name, or any personally identifying information.

Here is what the Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy says: "Because we believe that you shouldn’t have to provide personal information to participate in the free knowledge movement, you may: Read, edit, or use any Wikimedia Site without registering an account. Register for an account without providing an email address or real name." This is policy, and compliance with it is non-negotiable, although many editors disagree with some aspects of the policy. The main point of disagreement has to do with unregistered IP editing, since a substantial percentage of such edits are vandalism.

Wikipedia is the #5 website in the world and by far #1 in the world in educational content because of the genius of its policies and guidelines, which allow anonymous editing, and that simply is not going to change.

Consider these cases: Should our Mexican editors working on accurate coverage of the criminal drug cartels have to disclose their real names? Should Syrian editors covering the horrific Syrian Civil War have to disclose their real identities? Should Hong Kong editors covering pro-democracy protests have to reveal their real identities? How about editors who are employees of powerful corporations who work on articles about the misconduct of their employers? Consider the interests of our editors working on highly controversial topics who live in Russia, Turkey, Hungary, Egypt, the Philippines and the People's Republic of China. What fates would befall such people if their identities became public?

I am among the editors who have voluntarily chosen to disclose their real world identities. One thing that you may not fully appreciate yet is that editors who work in controversial topic areas are frequently subject to quite vicious harassment, sometimes including death threats. I tend to edit mostly in non-controversial areas, but perhaps 2% of my work involves controversial topics. I have been insulted, harassed and threatened on Wikipedia many times. People have registered accounts just for the purpose of harassing me (one within the last 48 hours).

On Wikipedia, I disclose that I am a Jew. Extremists on one side have accused me of being a racist Zionist nationalist, and extremists on the other side have accused me of being a self-hating Jew and a concentration camp kapo. Garden variety anti-Semites call me "kike" or accuse me of being part of the wordwide Rothschild mind control conspiracy. Some ultra-Orthodox trolls call me an apostate. And I don't even edit Jewish topics very often.

Harassment on Wikipedia is relatively easy for me to ignore because I am a self-employed 67 year old guy with a level head and thick skin. But harassment in real life is another matter, and twice I have been subjected to campaigns of death threats both on and off Wikipedia. In one case, some but not all of the threats came from a US government IP address, and I was interviewed by a detective from a military police agency, which resulted in an end to the threats. In the more recent case, the criminal scraped a photo of my infant granddaughter off my Facebook page and emailed death threats with that photo against me and against my granddaughter, including mention of her home town. I suppose that you can imagine the consternation that caused her parents. Both of these cases resulted from my neutral editing of Wikipedia biographies of career criminals who are in and out of prison. In both cases, I knew with 99% certainty who was responsible for the death threats but lacked the sort of proof that stands up in court.

If only 2% of my editing is to controversial topics, then please try to imagine the level of harassment directed at editors who specialize in controversial topics. I know many of them who do outstanding work, but they would stop editing immediately if their anonymity was compromised.

Editors are judged here only by the quality of their edits, especially by how accurately they summarize reliable sources in compliance with policies and guidelines. Becoming a successful Wikipedia editor requires a unique combination of personality traits that is not strongly correlated with professional status or formal training. I know outstanding editors who began at age 15 and flourished and became highly productive respected editors, and I also know several cases of editors with PhD degrees who crashed and burned because they were incapable of following established policies and guidelines, and unwilling to collaborate with their "lessers".

I hope that you find my observations useful, and I also hope that you too will develop into a productive, long term editor. You clearly have the potential. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:39, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to explain what should have been obvious to me, that editors take great risks when editing and sharing information others with insidious agendas want to suppress, and I'm so sorry you and your family have been subjected to such frightening harassment. You are a courageous man with a deep sense of commitment to the cause of free information and collaborative knowledge-building to press on in the face of such intimidation and bullying, and your experience is testament to the power of information, the threatening nature of it to those who fear illumination of the truth. Your experience does give me pause about leaving my bio and real name on the site. Yikes. I am Jewish, too. I had actually thought of posting (haven't even looked to see what's there) about Saudi dissidents, an LA consulting firm that works with the Saudi government to target dissidents and the impact this targeting has had on family members in SA, but for now I will probably leave that one alone! I'm still a little unclear about who (not by name but by some officially recognized status) has final decision making authority over text, though I hear you when you talk about talk pages and consensus building and not pressing on too much in the face of opposition or challenges from other editors; it's when those challenges are presented by anonymous people with clear agendas, downplaying those motivations, that I shake my head and roll my eyes. Thanks again. Much appreciated, MarcyMarcywinograd (talk) 10:35, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The answer to your question about "who (not by name but by some officially recognized status) has final decision making authority over text" is that nobody has such authority. That power and that status does not exist on Wikipedia, and there is no final text about anything. Every single thing is subject to revision based on new input from editors. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  17:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Help -- How do I get back to my draft "Puppets Against AIDS" to continue writing the entry.
I could use guidance here. I responded to the request for an article on "Puppets Against AIDS" and had begun my draft. I went to save the draft, but was then taken to a page that said I could either continue or submit it for publication. I may have clicked on "submit" only because I was stuck and couldn't figure out how to get back to the draft to edit it. The draft was down below on the page, but I couldn't edit it.

Here's my question: How do I get back to my draft of "Puppets Against AIDS" so I can add more and continue editing? I am not done.

Thanks,

Marcy


 * You can find your draft at Draft:Puppets against AIDS.  Squeeps10 Talk to meMy edits 01:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Agi Orsi (April 14)
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Marcywinograd (talk) 03:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Marcy, the author of the entry: Agi Orsi (female documentary filmmaker)and would greatly appreciate more specific feedback on what I can do to make this entry acceptable. I'm confused because I cited so many reputable sources: New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Variety, International Documentary Association, etc. and wrote in response to a request on your Wikipedia Article Request Page for an entry on Agi Orsi. I did not use promotional words or phrases like "popular" or "internationally acclaimed" and wrote in a neutral tone. I've noticed that Wikipedia has a ton of entries on male documentary filmmakers, but few on female documentary producers. The absence is glaring, really. I've also noticed that the men with whom Orsi has collaborated have entries on Wikipedia that discuss their talents, explicitly promoting these male filmmakers.

Do you want me to remove the mention of the prizes Orsi's films won? Would that make this article acceptable? Do you not want me to NOT discuss the themes and subjects of her films? Please be specific. Thank you.Marcywinograd (talk) 03:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Puppets Against AIDS has been accepted
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 * This is very cool! You might want to submit this to Good article nominations. --  Zanimum (talk) 19:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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A goat for you!
Excellent work on Medical deserts in the United States Cheers

Sulfurboy (talk) 00:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC) 

AfC notification: Draft:Agi Orsi has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Agi Orsi. Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 12:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Decarceration in the United States (May 12)
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updating critical pedagogy page
Hi Marcy,

I am no longer doing any active work updating this page. Have at it! I agree that concrete examples from classrooms would be a great contribution to the page. Let me know if you have any questions.

Best,

McGrudis — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGrudis (talk • contribs) 19:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Decarceration redirects
Hey, I came across several redirects that you created pointing from various generic phrases related to decarceration to Decarceration in the United States. We shouldn't create redirects from general terms to articles about specific countries. In this case Prison abolition movement seemed close enough to the subject matter to be an appropriate alternative target, but in the event that no general article exists, we should refrain from creating a redirect so as to leave red links in articles and thus encourage the future creation of an article on the subject. signed,Rosguill talk 19:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

"Electronic monitoring of immigrants" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Misplaced comments at RfD
Hey there! Thank you for participating at RfD. However both of the comments you posted were incorrectly placed. I already fixed these errors, but please make sure to post your comments correctly next time you decide to participate. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:05, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Agi Orsi


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Michèle Flournoy
Thanks for your recent expansion of this article. I've noticed that you sometimes have included material sourced only to primary sources, such as interviews with Flournoy. Please try to include secondary sources that describe, critique, or refer to those positions stated in primary sources, to avoid selective quotation, WP:OR, and WP:CHERRYPICKING, and potential violations of WP:NPOV. Again, thanks for your contributions! AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I thought I had included a secondary source (as well as primary) on summation of the 1997 QDR, but you removed that summary. This is an incredibly important document that Flournoy drafted, being the principal drafter. I’d like it restored, please. I try to include both secondary and primary because sometimes secondary misquote. I will find a secondary source to back up what you recently removed about her advocating for Syria regime change, as well. In the future, I would appreciate it if you see something that you think lacks a secondary source, to note on the page (secondary source citation needed) rather than repeatedly reverting what I write. Thank you, Marcy 2600:8802:5A00:566E:CCBF:E331:89B5:4A58 (talk) 18:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, it is not my responsibility to restore unsourced, poorly sourced, or selectively quoted material on a WP:BLP. See WP:BURDEN. In addition, secondary sources are required to establish that the material is of due weight. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:COVID-19 Mask Shaming


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Your email
Hi, Marcywinograd! You emailed me, though I'm not quite sure why – there didn't really seem to be anything in your message that couldn't be discussed openly here. Anyway, I've taken a look at the article and the formatting seems to be OK now. Can I take it that the matter is resolved? Just a suggestion: if something like that happens again, the talk-page of the article is probably the best place to mention it. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your response. Sorry, I left the message in the wrong place! Yes, it's resolved. Best, Marcy

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Hi, unless something is confidential or private editors do not generally use email for reasons of openness and also privacy (of email addresses). I only tweaked Draft:Women Cross DMZ in passing as I'm limited in time. I can say the tool we use does not flag any of the sources as known unreliable sources which is good, and it's clear there are several very mainstream reliable sources. Apart from that all I can say is it will be reviewed with Notability (organizations and companies) in mind. Apart from that it is just waiting for some reviewer to pick it up and at the moment we seam to be shorter than normal in number of reviews/time being volunteered but still lots of submissions. So unless you can find a Wikiproject or editor with a particular interest it's just a waiting game. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;width: 100%;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Women Cross DMZ. Thanks! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 10:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Women Cross DMZ (July 8)
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Redacting other users posts
Please read wp:talk you should not remove other users' posts.Slatersteven (talk) 18:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

September 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Taiwan, you may be blocked from editing. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 20:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I edited the lead, then was reverted, have not edited anything else on the main Taiwan page. Are you telling me I will be blocked for posting objections on the "talk" page?


 * Are you aware that you removed other peoples talk page posts not once but twice? Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 21:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not at all aware of having removed anyone's talk page comments. ??? If I did, it was not intentional.
 * Well you are aware of it now because I just provided you with the diffs. I will also note that in that second edit you didn’t actually add any text of your own, you just removed two additions by someone else while disputing their additions in the edit summary. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 22:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you remove any of my posts again I will take you to wp:ani, as I note that your second removal was after I has asked you not to do it.Slatersteven (talk) 10:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Recent work on Environmental Movement
Hey! Saw your recent work on the environmental movement topics such as Greenpeace, and wanted to make sure that you saw the group working on WikiProject Climate change. The work you do on these topics matter, and if you are looking for inspiration you might check out our simple edits, or this recent blog post. Using the actions of GreenPeace USA as kindof a filter for looking at specific power plants, companies and other actions seems really appropriate, for example, Sadads (talk) 02:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Sadads, for reaching out and informing me of various opportunities to work collaboratively on climate change topics. I'll check out the links you sent and read the blog post. I appreciate hearing from you. Best, Marcy Marcywinograd (talk) 04:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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