User talk:MargaretDowns

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Happy editing! Rsk6400 (talk) 20:04, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Pictures of Lynchings
I respect your thoughtful argumentation although I don't agree with it. The discussion I mentioned has been already been archived at Talk:Lynching/Archive_1. You might want to have a look at the links to the relevant WP guidelines given there. --Rsk6400 (talk) 20:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Just adding to what said (and I also respect your concerns and rationale for removal) I have reverted this related edit removing images from Lynching in the United States. I note there has been past discussion (see here) with comments made about earlier discussions and WP:NOTCENSORED, and the importance of showing the images to reflect the depravity of the civilisation that allowed and accepted such actions. To quote one editor: "Removing photos of the atrocities does a disservice to history and understanding.", and I do rather tend to agree. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:05, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

I understand that this has been discussed at length before, but I think this needs more consideration. If it's important that everyone literally see the depravity of these images and not seeing it does a disservice to history, then shouldn't we be posting as many depraved images of war, torture, and brutal murders in all articles? Why are so many people okay with so many images of dead Black people? Shall we go into Ted Bundy's article and post all the crime scene images to drive the point home that he was terrible? What is shocking to me is the overzealousness of the postings. Do we really need 10 to 12 to 14 images, each one more horrific than the last, to demonstrate that lynching is meant to terrorize people? Museums and archives take better care than that, while still not "censoring" the images (calling it censorship is a whole other thing that I won't open up right now). How could we be more judicious? I'm curious to know the identities of the folks who are strongly advocating to show these images so blatantly, as if they are just like, historical illustrations rather than tools of violent intimidation. I'm going to go through the past Talks more carefully, but I think we need to be more careful and not rely on the excuse of "well this was history, so. . ." because that excuse can be insidious and has been used throughout history to justify unjust practices, events, and modes of display. 21:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)~