User talk:MargaretRDonald/Archive 8

Apology
Hello Margaret,

I have only just realised that I did not have my Wikipedia email preferences properly set. Sorry - I can only read as far as "Hi Geoff, I note that we have a disagreement concerning the use of...". I think I have fixed the email problem. I'd really like to see the rest of you message if you wouldn't mind sending it again. Gderrin (talk) 03:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry Margaret - email still not received. Can we talk here? I don't think we have a disagreement. It's just that when the Q code was added to Philotheca myoporoides subsp. brevipedunculata, the italics were not showing in the reflist. (There was already a small mistake in the ref. citation.) Gderrin (talk) 04:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi my emails were as follows:

"Hi Geoff Thanks for getting back to me.  It was just an email attempting to persuade you that cite Q was useful even though it fails to format species names (and I think if we were to format species names in cite Q searches would not find matching articles....)  So I think in the end it may just boil down to yours and my individual preferences... Articles in which one may see the very real usefulness are:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalization (ref 8), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychaos_dubium (ref 4) and a whole pile more where I was linking Laura Wegener Parfrey  via cite Q but inadvertently linking other authors simply by its use. The email was as follows:

Hi Geoff,

I note that we have a disagreement concerning the use of cite Q. In the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philotheca_myoporoides_subsp._brevipedunculata I see that in addition to retaining the italics you have also changed the url to point to a page in BHL rather than to the full Muelleria pdf.

I think it is a pity to ignore the very real advantages of using a single reference in wikidata rather than the potentially many references in wikipedia. It is easier to correct a single use rather than the many.

Additionally
 * 1) All of the Muelleria articles uploaded to wikidata point to the pdf. (while many users - not you - fail to point to any external source at all.)
 * 2) If an author has been disambiguated in wikidata, and has an enwiki article, the use of the the Qitem automatically  links to the author article.   (I think it is also very important to link authors to their work, which again you do for taxon authorities, but more generally, the use of a Qitem links to any disambiguated author you may be citing, taxon authority or no)

For me these considerations outweigh the formatting issue. I have too much respect for you to wish to change your articles without your consent, but am hoping that ultimately you may come to see the usefulness of a Qitem for citing an article.

My best regards, as always, Margaret"

(with respect to other errors I may have forgotten to use the page parameter of cite Q to ensure that the pages in the citation were those of APNI even though the full pdf is always pointed to when using cite Q) MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello again Margaret,
 * Regarding the use of cite Q, it seems to me that there has been a long discussion about it, and that the result of the discussion was that there was no consensus (at 2 October 2017). The way I read the discussion, the conclusion was that "usage of this template should be extremely vetted to ensure that all of the transcluded information is accurate". I don't know whether there has been further discussion, but my opinion is that cite Q should not be used where transcluded information is incorrect. Giving a reference with binomials that are not in italics, is incorrect. (My taxonomy professor Roger Carolin would be horrified. He deducted marks when binomials in handwritten work were not underlined.) The Cite Q template is a work-in-progress.
 * I would prefer that plant articles always had binomials in accordance with WP:FLORA, including in the reflist.
 * I see no problem with the use of cite Q in the two articles (Cephalization and Polychaos dubium) you mentioned.
 * I used the BHL in the reference to Philotheca myoporoides subsp. brevipedunculata in preference to the full Muelleria article so that a reader does not have to search through the whole journal. Gderrin (talk) 08:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello again Geoff. There has been an enormous amount of recent work on cite Q and I have found it works very well. (Andy Mabbett and others recently got a wikimedian grant to work on it and perfect(?) it.) And it would be nice if searches on articles which include italics in their names could be sorted out so that there would be no drama with titles... Italics would be nice, but what is particularly good about cite Q is that as people get articles then if a cite Q template has been  used in an article citing that author, nothing need be done to an article citing the author to give an author link in the citing article.  This is in strong contrast to wikipedian editors failing to create red links, when to correct each article to give a blue link each article must be found and individually be blue linked.  I have written a zillion queries to find such articles and blue link them.  Thus you can see why I am enthusiastic about a tool which means work need not be done and redone. So simply because cite Q was used in Cephalization a further link was generated to the author Laura A. Katz. However, I do see, that given that so many botanical article titles contain names needing italicisation you will not be using Cite Q in the immediate future. Cheers and thanks for the discussion. MargaretRDonald (talk) 08:51, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's something we can resolve in, because it's not something that Citation (for which  is a wrapper) handles:
 * You would need to raise the matter on that template's talk page; but note that its documentation says "Do not include Wiki markup (italic font) or ' (bold font) because these markup characters will contaminate the metadata.". Even then, Wikidata does not store italics (nor other markup) in title properties, nor labels.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:10, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks,  I did think that the issue was not easily resolvable. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You would need to raise the matter on that template's talk page; but note that its documentation says "Do not include Wiki markup (italic font) or ' (bold font) because these markup characters will contaminate the metadata.". Even then, Wikidata does not store italics (nor other markup) in title properties, nor labels.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:10, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks,  I did think that the issue was not easily resolvable. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Margaret, Geoff, I have both your talk pages on my watchlist, so I was already aware of this conversation, but hadn't wanted to step in (sorry, I've been pretty avoidant of user talk pages for a while; and at this point I'm rather daunted by the number of messages on my own talk page I haven't replied to).

Genus and species should absolutely be italicized.

At this point, Cite Q represents a tiny fraction of instances of scientific names missing italics on Wikipedia. There's a lot of italics that need fixing; academic terms ending in December bring organism articles expanded by student editors who almost never get italics right (charitably, I'll assume the problem is being unfamiliar with wiki markup). Even scientific journals don't always italicize scientific names. Chemistry/pharmacology journals are very bad about italicizing scientific names of organisms from which chemicals are derived. Biologists studying Drosophila melanogaster as model organism invariably call it Drosophila in running text, which is an utter abomination (if I were reviewing these articles, I'd accept lower-case unitalicized drosophila as a common name for the model species in running text, or unitalicized Drosophila as title case in the actual title; and if drosophila scientists actually care about another branch of science they should use the binomial with italics). Arabidopsis thaliana workers are about as bad. I've gone through incoming links to the genera Drosophila and Arabidopsis and refined them to the common model species in the past (and I should probably check them again, now that I think of it). In doing so, I've done drosophila in running text, but haven't presumed to add italics to titles of references.

OK, leaving italics aside.

Sure, Cite Q has some advantages. I haven't used it, and I'm not about to (I haven't really even looked into it so far). Italics aside, at Philotheca myoporoides subsp. brevipedunculata, the major difference has been linking to the reference. Margaret linked a PDF via Wikidata on a government site. Geoff linked BHL. I don't find BHL's interface especially user-friendly; the PDF is better in this regard for me. As a Wikipedian (interested in free knowledge), BHL appeals to me more than a proprietary PDF format. As an editor, when I add references to journals, I'm usually using this tool, which depends on a DOI. It doesn't support italics in article titles, but the references I add usually don't mention taxon ranks that should have italics in the title. When adding DOI based references, I also search for any non-paywalled versions, and add it to the reference (typically as a PDF, often via ResearchGate).

The issue aside from italics here is how to link to references. BHL? Australian government? DOI? Non-paywalled links from a DOI? DOI and BHL are likely most stable and persistent. Plantdrew (talk) 04:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * There are other problems with Cite Q. When an article uses Sfn and other Harvard-based templates to generate short references that link to a Bibliography, it doesn't (at present) generate the correct anchor for the link, which fails. Its default is CS2 style citations, which are then inconsistent in an article that uses CS1 style citations, contrary to the MoS.
 * In general, Cite Q depends on style and formatting decisions made at Wikidata, whose editors come from many different countries, and are used to different conventions. I remain unconvinced that it should be used here; I will certainly not be using it at present. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Cite Q
Hi, needs to be used with great caution as yet. It breaks the links from short Harvard style references to a bibliography list, as it did at Botanical garden. It also by default produces CS2 style citations (i.e. with commas) which then aren't consistent as they are required to be in an article which uses CS1 style citations. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:00, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Could I ask that rather than simply reverting cit Q edits, that the author links produced by cite Q be honoured. In an encyclopedia it is important that people be linked to their work. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to add the author links as you go through and revert your CITEVAR errors. Please remember to use the Preview button to ensure that your links are working as intended and going to the right person's article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Please stop adding Template:Cite Q when it violates WP:CITEVAR
Please stop adding Template:Cite Q when it violates WP:CITEVAR. This edit changed a last/first, Citation Style 1 citation to a first last, Citation Style 2 citation, in an article where the former is the dominant citation style. I suggest that you ask the folks who are working on Cite Q to support cs1 and last/first citations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have reverted some of your recent changes that went against CITEVAR. Please fix or revert the rest. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also to be acceptable in a taxon article, the generated citation needs to respect the italicization of any taxon names in the title of the source – it looks very unprofessional to me otherwise. Another issue is the access date when there's a url in the citation; for changeable web pages, this needs to be when the editor here consulted it. I cannot see that is yet ready to be deployed, although I admit I haven't studied it in depth. Peter coxhead (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The parameter "access-date" can be added to cite Q so that is not an issue. With respect to the italicisation of taxon nemes within article titles, that seems unlikely to be able to be fixed. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:38, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:38, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * citations that are amenable to being called via Cite Q are published in scholarly journals that have stable urls via one or more identifiers. They do not need access-date even when they have a url parameter. Help:Citation Style 1 explains. --RexxS (talk) 01:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been trying without success to find examples of where CiteQ is failing to italicise a taxon name in the title of the source. Could you provide an example, please? --RexxS (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This edit fixed one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:22, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

It would be courteous to maintain the functionality of an article by maintaining its author links. In Algae December 19,2020 reference 21 has links to three authors Laura Wegener Parfrey, David J. Patterson and Laura A. Katz. Reversion of the cite Q edit produced: December 22, 2020 with no author links. It would be courteous to maintain these author links rather than to destroy them by a simple "revert edit". The article of 19 December links primary authors of subject matter to the subject and these links should be maintained with subsequent edits. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, that may be so, but for anybody to realize that the deletion of a full citation and its replacement by Zog-speak from planet Vulcan (" ") has actually added some morsel would require them to a) view the Vulcantext, b) load the original full citation and preview it alongside, c) manually check for (wholly unexpected) Vulcan-extras, and d) manually transcribe the inaccessible Vulcancoded authorlinks into conventional, visible authorlinks. Sorry but that's not a realistic process for those of us without spare spacecraft. If you want to add authorlinks, please just add them in the usual way. Popping little edit-comments about how courteous it would be for other editors to follow the above algorithm is, well, kind of hokey, really. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The real "kind-of hokey" is your inability to use the simple tools provided to fix problems. If you can't work that out for yourself, perhaps take a look at the documentation. --RexxS (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Further discussion may be found at Australian Biota Talk page: Use of Cite Q MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I see your point about the author links, but the author names are displayed incorrectly (First Last), and Katz is missing the full stop after the middle initial "A", contrary to MOS. Changes that introduce discrepancies like that are straightforward violations of CITEVAR and can cause an article to fail reviews such as FAC. If maintaining the author links were a simple copy-paste from the previous revision, I would consider maintaining the links, but they are hidden behind the opacity of Cite Q and Wikidata. I am sure that this is frustrating for you, as you have found a new way to cite journal articles that appears to have multiple benefits, but unfortunately, you'll have to figure out how to keep the benefits while adjusting the display of Cite Q to match the existing citation style in articles. See Template talk:Cite Q for more discussion about how to customize each transclusion of Cite Q to do this. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the display of author names is incorrect, although it may be inconsistent depending on the article. I also disagree that MOS insists on a full stop after initials in author names, otherwise Vancouver-style would not exist on Wikipedia. WP:CITEVAR is not part of the MoS. If CiteQ produces an format inconsistent with the rest of the article, then an editor can still add author names in whatever format they choose, because Citation allows that, and the local values will override anything on Wikidata. --RexxS (talk) 01:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The author naming convention was inconsistent within a single citation, which is not allowable anywhere on Wikipedia. I agree that an editor can still add author names, which is why I encouraged to read the template talk page, and why I asked them to fix or revert their edits. As long as citations are displayed consistently within an article and do not break any functionality, there should be no problem. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That was an unusual error caused by the Wikidata entry having  "Laura A Katz" for, but no corresponding qualifier for . It's symptomatic of the haphazard state of data curation on Wikidata and needs to be fixed there. I sympathise with your concern and am frustrated by those sort of problems. --RexxS (talk) 00:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Frustrating, yes, but not unusual. I have seen many author initials in Cite Q templates in the form "A.B." instead of the usual "A. B." with a space. Editors will have to fix those or customize the author display in an article in order to maintain consistency with MOS:INITIALS, which is usual (but not required, of course) in citations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Curation of Wikidata entries is a key issue, and will remain so even if all the current problems with Cite Q are fixed. There are many fewer editors over there than here; many items are created by bots and never checked by editors. I edit mostly taxon articles, which usually have a taxonbar. I'm now reconciled to having to create or correct Wikidata taxon items at least half the time that I create or expand a taxon article here in order for the taxonbar to be correct. If I have to correct Wikidata citation items as well, it will just add to the workload. Having to interact with Wikidata also discourages new editors, in my experience.
 * If I were cynical (heaven forbid!) I would say that templates like Cite Q are a good way for Wikidata to force editors from language wikipedias who care about accuracy and style consistency to do work over there. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * How does MOS:INITIALS, a part of WP:Manual of Style/Biography apply to citations? It simply doesn't fit with Vancouver-style:
 * I'm not cynical (I hope), but I do think that using Wikidata for Wikipedia content does help to leverage Wikipedia's considerable editor resources to help less fortunate language wikis. For me it's part of the mission to make the sum of human knowledge freely available to every person on the planet. --RexxS (talk) 22:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that MOS:INITIALS doesn't immediately apply to citations, because of WP:CITEVAR, which is interpreted to allow a very wide range of citation styles that have some external support, provided they are consistent within the article. (And exceptions are made for other styles in citations, such as YYYY-MM-DD dates, that are not allowed in running text.) If we were starting again, I would argue for settling on a single approved citation style, as we have settled on other contentious style issues (such as capitalization). However, we are where we are, which means that CiteQ and other citation-generating templates have to be able to fully support multiple styles, and, barring a new RfC which decides to the contrary, it is allowed to change occurrences of CiteQ to other templates used in the article. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that having a consistent "house" style for citations would eliminate a lot of completely unnecessary argument, because I don't believe that the minutiae of citation formatting are in any way important. CiteQ passes all of the information it collects through the standard Citation template and therefore fully supports all of the multiple styles supported already. Of course, anybody can change any citations to improve them as CITEVAR explicitly allows. What is important is what we present to the reader and we should be welcoming advances such as auto-correction of inaccuracies and automatic tracking of sources that have been retracted. --RexxS (talk) 16:22, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * produces in Styphelia stomarrhena, listing three authors, none of whom currently (2020-12-26) has an enwiki article. But the moment an article appears for any one of these authors, this Cite Q template will link to that author. This capacity to produce links long after one has finished with an article, is an essential difference from the one by one referencing (with its multiple capacity for all  problems of referencing) espoused by many who have contributed to the discussion.
 * Note that the same citation can be modified: to produce: . In other words, one can write names any which way. Thus it is always possible to write names that satisfy the criticism above. One simply uses the parameters available in
 * To sum up (for me) the capacity to produce links long after one has finished with an article, is an essential difference from the one by one referencing, and alone justifies its use. (But it is of course far easier to get one thing right (the wikidata for an article) than to correct 200 references which fail to link to either author or article.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:40, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You can add author links with cite journal quite easily; missing articles will be red links, indicating to interested editors that an article is needed for that person. As for this citation immediately above, it is missing italics for "Styphelia" in the article title. They should be added. At that point, you are retyping the author names and the title, which (to my mind) reduces the advantages of Cite Q until Wikidata can store those values. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you might give an example of such easy linking. I would appreciate it. MargaretRDonald (talk) 08:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure. Like this: – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * But the title should appear as "A phylogenetic recircumscription of Styphelia (Ericaceae, Epacridoideae, Styphelieae)", i.e. with the genus name italicized. So even with all the authors' names re-entered, the citation is not correctly formatted. Right now, Cite Q does not support fixing it by the obvious, since this produces . [The third author's name is "Puente-Lelièvre" not "Puente-Lelievre".]
 * Cite Q is simply not ready for deployment yet. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, in most of the articles I edit, I would also need to add . So, assuming that the Cite Q editors fix the italics, the reduction in typing amounts to the smallest part of the citation – the journal name, volume, pages, and permanent identifiers. This isn't nothing, but is it worth the extra obscurity of the wikitext? Peter coxhead (talk) 10:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Italicisation is now fixed, although it only affects a tiny minority of citations. The author's name, Caroline Puente-Lelièvre, is rendered correctly and always has been. Nobody has to type author names and links if they just copy and paste them in the cases where they are needed.
 * "Cite Q is simply not ready for deployment yet": utter nonsense. You're ignoring the ability of a dynamic template to track any updates and to flag up when a source has been replaced or retracted. Nobody's forcing you to use CiteQ yourself, but it's not acceptable to badger editors who reach a different conclusion from yours on the balance between advantages and disadvantages. --RexxS (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Re: "always has been": No. I fixed it on Wikidata, which, frustratingly, does not allow for normal edit summaries when making a change. If someone reverts my edit, the name will be broken here, but that change will not show up on the watchlist for this page, which may be why thought it had not changed. Sometimes I wonder WTF, how is any of this considered ready for prime time? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:32, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The template has always correctly dealt with the information in Wikidata. Of course if the information there is wrong, then it needs to be fixed there, but how on earth does that make the template not ready for deployment? The very act of using it here results in an improvement in the quality of information available to 300+ language wikis. If somebody vandalises the entry or reverts your correction, it is 75 times more likely to be noticed here than on Wikidata. It's really demoralising to see the kind of "Wikipedia is an island, and the other projects can go to hell" attitude on display. --RexxS (talk) 21:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * this is far from my attitude. I regularly edit taxon items in Wikidata for example. My view, based on my personal experience, and hence necessarily partial, is exactly the reverse. The far smaller number of editors at Wikidata seem not to accept that Wikidata should be a vital service to other projects and must therefore be designed to support the way in which those projects work, not vice versa. (An issue totally unconnected with Cite Q is the refusal to allow non-1:1 linking across projects, which causes real problems in linking taxon articles and in deploying . See User:Peter coxhead/Wikidata issues. I'm far from indifferent to other projects; I've assisted other language wikis to transfer over parts of the automated taxobox system, for example.)
 * I really want Cite Q to work properly; it has the potential to save substantial amounts of editor time and produce better referencing. But it will only succeed in its aim if it fully respects the way in which all the different projects use citations. Here, this means that it must support the separation of names into last and first fields. As Cite Q is right now, it doesn't properly support the English Wikipedia's approach to citations, and is simply prejudicing editors here against it. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My experiences at Wikidata have not been pleasant, but I understand that the editors there are not a homogeneous group. The issue that taxes me is the attitude that the database is designed to make it easy to add content, with scant regard to the problems of using that content later. Almost nobody understands that Wikipedia pages can't use the WDQS and that the tools we have to do that job are crude, slow and resource-hungry when we try to do anything complex. I intend to do a substantial reorganisation of how CiteQ works internally, but that takes time. If there were a simple means of accepting, , and the many ways they can be formatted, along with the presence or absence of  (and the possibility of gaps), and then reformat any of those into "last, first" format when required, believe me, I'd have done it by now. At some point, I would like to test a naïve reformatting for "last, first" and see what proportion then needs to employ a more complex algorithm.
 * The problem with trying to introduce a new template that potentially makes use of 25,000,000 database entries for use in up to 6,000,000 articles is that none of us can anticipate every possibility for things to go wrong. The last/first issue was, of course, entirely predictable, but we felt that the ability to manually override parameters would produce a workable template that still needed less effort than manually adding a citation. I am thoroughly discouraged by the thought that editors will become prejudiced against it, and it makes me wonder whether it is productive to spend any more time on it. --RexxS (talk) 17:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * this is far from my attitude. I regularly edit taxon items in Wikidata for example. My view, based on my personal experience, and hence necessarily partial, is exactly the reverse. The far smaller number of editors at Wikidata seem not to accept that Wikidata should be a vital service to other projects and must therefore be designed to support the way in which those projects work, not vice versa. (An issue totally unconnected with Cite Q is the refusal to allow non-1:1 linking across projects, which causes real problems in linking taxon articles and in deploying . See User:Peter coxhead/Wikidata issues. I'm far from indifferent to other projects; I've assisted other language wikis to transfer over parts of the automated taxobox system, for example.)
 * I really want Cite Q to work properly; it has the potential to save substantial amounts of editor time and produce better referencing. But it will only succeed in its aim if it fully respects the way in which all the different projects use citations. Here, this means that it must support the separation of names into last and first fields. As Cite Q is right now, it doesn't properly support the English Wikipedia's approach to citations, and is simply prejudicing editors here against it. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My experiences at Wikidata have not been pleasant, but I understand that the editors there are not a homogeneous group. The issue that taxes me is the attitude that the database is designed to make it easy to add content, with scant regard to the problems of using that content later. Almost nobody understands that Wikipedia pages can't use the WDQS and that the tools we have to do that job are crude, slow and resource-hungry when we try to do anything complex. I intend to do a substantial reorganisation of how CiteQ works internally, but that takes time. If there were a simple means of accepting, , and the many ways they can be formatted, along with the presence or absence of  (and the possibility of gaps), and then reformat any of those into "last, first" format when required, believe me, I'd have done it by now. At some point, I would like to test a naïve reformatting for "last, first" and see what proportion then needs to employ a more complex algorithm.
 * The problem with trying to introduce a new template that potentially makes use of 25,000,000 database entries for use in up to 6,000,000 articles is that none of us can anticipate every possibility for things to go wrong. The last/first issue was, of course, entirely predictable, but we felt that the ability to manually override parameters would produce a workable template that still needed less effort than manually adding a citation. I am thoroughly discouraged by the thought that editors will become prejudiced against it, and it makes me wonder whether it is productive to spend any more time on it. --RexxS (talk) 17:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

the idea of pulling citations from a database is an obvious and very sound one, and I for one would be sad if it had to be abandoned. The real question is whether Wikidata can be that database. I'm sceptical that it can unless the first/last separation can be done there. Surely Wikidata entries for citations should be based on something like the COinS metadata which is generated by the citation templates, and which does provide fields for first, last, middle initial, etc. Otherwise we need to use or create some other database that does conform to this metadata model. surely knows about this? Peter coxhead (talk) 17:46, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not be discouraged. I had hoped that this airing of what some editors find problematic might be a way of recognising some deficiencies and fixing them. I have every intention of continuing to use cite Q (though not where references already include an external link and satisfy the first last issue). And indeed, many other editors also continue to use it. The capacity not to have to revisit articles to link authors is a major leap forward, and the suggestion that all authors could be red-linked as an alternative is in my view silly when many may never satisfy notability criteria. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC) And remember that those taking part in the discussion are but a tiny subsection of wikipedia and wikidata editors. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I also think that Cite Q has potential, but right now, with Wikidata's limitations, it is too easy to misuse it. I too have been mystified and frustrated by my forays into Wikidata, and fail to understand why there is not an easy way to use markup in data values, or provide separated surnames and first names for authors, or provide edit summaries when making a change to a piece of data(!!!), or find the help that I am looking for (this last one is probably my failing). The very useful Cite doi system of templates, which did everything that is hoping that Cite Q will someday do, was wiped out on en.WP years ago, with the promise that the holy grail of Wikidata would replace it with something far better, but that promise has been a hollow one. I am happy to help editors here improve this template; I just want to ensure that it is used in a way that makes en.WP better. If Wikidata and other WPs are improved along the way, that is great. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:40, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #448
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 
 * Discussions
 * Open request for CheckUser: 997kB
 * There's a discussion about what the best label for required qualifier constraint happens to be.


 * Events
 * Ongoing: rC3 (remote Chaos Communication Congress). Several Wikidata-related talks and meetups happening on December 27th, 28th and 29th: introduction to Wikidata, Wikidata for datajournalists, Wikidata meetups in German and English, and a Query Service workshop. (see Wikipaka schedule for more details)


 * Tool of the week
 * Template:TP administrative area is a new template designed for all items which are instance of administrative territorial entity. It defines useful queries for those items. For example, links to this page. Feedback and contributions are welcome.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Project Grants open call for proposals in 2021. Changes in the review process for Project Grants in 2021; the open call for community organizing proposals will be from January 11 to February 10 and the open call for software and research proposals will be from February 15 to March 16.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: small logo or icon, lunar coordinates
 * External identifiers: CINE21 person ID, Chinese Painting Database ID, Cinémathèque québécoise person ID, Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Tasking Manager project ID, SAPA ID, Manus Online author ID, Lichess username, CITWF person ID, DBLP publication ID, DataTrek ID, KANTO ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: abstract, thesis committee chair, character type, Calificación de videojuegos, Regente, Nação (candomblé), Liderança, Bharati Braille, number of walks, number of hits, doubles hit, triples hit, Through point
 * External identifiers: TuneIn Podcasts show ID, RadioPublic show ID, Player.fm show ID, World Rowing ID, MNBAQ ID, Libsyn show ID, PodBean show ID, BG School ID, JAD ID, RDA value vocabularies ID, BHCL UUID, Podtail show ID, Provenio UUID, AbandonSocios ID, Mitre ATT&CK ID, Lexikon zum Literatur- und Kulturbetrieb im Österreich der Zwischenkriegszeit ID, International Encyclopedia of the First World War ID, SFLI ID, Game UI Database ID, DiVo person ID, e-GEDSH ID, Projecto Vercial author ID, Calaméo ID, Lumières Lausanne ID, Swiss Unihockey Player ID, IFF player ID, Internet Game Database numeric game ID, AV Production person ID, Magyar Életrajzi Lexikon ID, Studium Parisiense ID, I professori dell'Università di Pavia (1859-1961) ID, A*dS Encyclopedia, Viceversa Letteratura author ID, Ancient History Encyclopedia ID, The Podcast App show ID, viaggiareinpuglia.it ID, Encyclopedia of Saami Culture ID, DiCamillo Database Country House ID, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia ID, Biographical Archive of Psychiatry ID, Play:Right video game ID, Spletni biografski leksikon znanih Primorcev in Primork ID, TheCocktailDB ID, Muck Rack media outlet ID, Biographical Dictionary of the Czech Lands


 * Query examples:
 * Check Corona vaccine progress using Wikidata SPARQL to get metadata about the countries see notebook - SPARQL query

Due to the winter holidays, the development team is taking a break and no deployment is happening for Wikidata at the moment :)
 * Development

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 18:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Suggested and open tasks!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

A New Year With Women in Red!
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Wikidata weekly summary #449
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship: Martin Urbanec (RfP scheduled to end after 7 January 2021 17:21 UTC)
 * Should we rename place of burial (P119) to place of mortal remains?


 * Events
 * Upcoming: live SPARQL queries on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, January 5 at 18:00 CET
 * Upcoming video: LIVE Wikidata editing #26 - YouTube, Facebook, 9 January
 * Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #44, January 10
 * Past: Wikidata sessions at rC3 (remote Chaos Communication Congress) (replay)
 * Introduction to Wikidata
 * Wikidata for datajournalists
 * Past: Wikidata sessions at g0vsummit2020 (in Chinese) (replay)
 * Wikidata one year in Taiwan, what is our results and what is our future plan
 * Challenges of GLAM Taiwan


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Video: Applying linked data model for the Bogotá Digital Library (in Spanish) - YouTube
 * Video: Wikidata with Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Wikimedia Armenia - YouTube
 * Video: How to import scholarly articles to Wikidata using Zotero - YouTube
 * Video: How to import books to Wikidata using a spreadsheet and OpenRefine - YouTube
 * Video: How to import library materials to Wikidata using MarcEdit and OpenRefine - YouTube
 * Video: Introduction to Wikidata (in Italian) - YouTube
 * Video: Linking a new Wikipedia article to a Wikidata item - YouTube
 * Video: Schema and Wikidata - YouTube
 * Video: Using Twinkle on Wikidata - YouTube
 * Video: Managing Interlanguage links with Wikidata (in Urdu) - YouTube
 * Blog post: 52 Wikidata weeks 2020
 * Blog post: Scottish nautical wrecks in wikidata


 * Tool of the week
 * User:Bargioni/WikiBridge.js userscript enables you to add a tabbed section to Wikidata items showing some paragraphs from Wikipedias chosen by the Babel languages of the logged-in user. Demo video (in Italian)


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikidata Lexeme Forms now lists languages on the index page using their autonyms (language name in that language). (Source)


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: graph girth, category for the view of the item, ALA-LC romanization, liturgical rank
 * External identifiers: PIAC ID, CPV Supplementary, Dizionario bio-bibliografico dei bibliotecari italiani del XX secolo ID, ISDS ID, Mapy.cz ID, World Rowing ID (UUID format), 1914-1918-Online ID, JAD ID, Game UI Database ID, Lumières.Lausanne ID, Swiss Unihockey player ID, IFF player ID, Magyar életrajzi lexikon ID, Lexikon zum Literatur- und Kulturbetrieb im Österreich der Zwischenkriegszeit ID, Ancient History Encyclopedia ID, Literary Encyclopedia ID, Google Podcasts show ID, Stitcher show ID, Castbox show ID, Pocket Casts show ID, Podcast Addict show ID, TuneIn Podcasts show ID, RadioPublic show ID, Player.fm show ID, PodBean show ID, Podtail show ID, Encyclopedia of Saami Culture ID, The Podcast App show ID, Medieval Manuscripts in Oxford Libraries manuscript ID, Medieval Manuscripts in Oxford Libraries work ID, Medieval Manuscripts in Oxford Libraries person ID, Medieval Manuscripts in Oxford Libraries place ID, Medieval Manuscripts in Oxford Libraries organization ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: YouTube custom URL, Author last names, Author first names, Naval flag, supplements, closed WMF project sitelink, has part (string value), member, number of data sets
 * External identifiers: IFPI Danmark work ID, National Museum in Warsaw ID, Olympedia Affiliations ID, IFLA value vocabularies ID, Erudit article ID, Olympedia Event ID, dati.beniculturali.it ID, Barnivore product ID, Archivo Histórico de diputados de España ID, Port Letter, FFF player ID (new scheme), Hungarian Film Archive ID, GEPRIS-Historisch ID (Person), EuroBabeIndex ID, MFAT person ID, SportsLogos.net team ID, Alpine Linux package, Internet Encyclopedia of Ukraine ID, Povos Indígenas no Brasil ID, NLS place type ID, BookDepository publisher ID, National Historic People id, NFL.com ID (new scheme)


 * Query examples:
 * Works identified (via dedicated property P3893) as entering the public domain on 1/1/2021, ordered by number of articles on Wikimedia sites (Source)
 * Painters in the collections of Paris Musées which enter the public domain on January 1 (Source)
 * Map of forts related to Dutch trading companies VOC and WIC found in the Atlas of Mutual Heritage (Source)
 * Map of forts in the Cologne fortress ring (Source)
 * First-level administrative divisions in Germany
 * Population of cities in Germany corresponds to the total number of vaccinations in Germany (Source)
 * Most popular theorems according to their number of articles on Wikipedia (Source)
 * Number of people who have died, or been diagnosed, of COVID-19, grouped by occupation (Source)
 * Deaths in 2020 - date of birth, date of death, cause of death and country of nationality (Source)
 * Summary of a UK parliamentary career seat-party-start pairs(Source)
 * Timeline of aircraft types around the world and the first time a type of aircraft made a flight (Source)
 * Indonesian legislation related to indigenous people (Source)
 * Which artist could be "D.K. 1964"? (source)
 * Line graph of colleges and universities in India by year of establishment (Source)
 * Graph of Indian films that are remakes of other Indian films (Source)
 * Graph of academic descendants of C. R. Rao and K. Ananda Rau (Source)
 * Map of gram panchayats in Kerala by literacy rate in 2001 (Source)
 * Maps of different places in West Bengal according to suffix (Source)
 * Tree map of Rabindranath's poems according to the month of writing (Source)
 * Count of locations of exhibitions on Wikidata (Source)
 * Wikidata lexeme forms by language (Source)
 * Newest database reports: 2021, Greek given names


 * Development
 * Due to the winter holidays, no deployment has happened for Wikidata in the last two weeks.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 16:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #485
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * WikidataCon update: you can now check in the program of the first day of the online conference
 * Transbordados: WikidataCon's preconference for Latin America - September 14, 21 and 28 (21h UTC) - with simultaneous translation for Portuguese and Spanish, via YouTube - set of events to discuss Wikidata and decoloniality, knowledge organization and digital dissemination of collections in Latin America contexts. Join us!
 * 14/09 - Towards a decolonial wiki: overflowing knowledge from the Latin American horizon - speakers: Amanda Jurno (Wiki Movimento Brasil), Bianca Santana (journalist, writer and activist) and Silvia Gutiérrez (El Colégio de México) - watch it in PT-BR / ES
 * 21/09 - The universe of libraries: Wikidata and the multiplication of knowledge potencies - speakers: Lilian Viana (GLAM das Bibliotecas da USP) and Maurício Genta (Wikimedia Argentina e Biblioteca Nacional da Argentina) - watch it in PT-BR / ES
 * 28/09 - Digital collections and Wikidata: organizing a network of knowledge - speakers: Evelin Heidel (a.k.a. Scann; Wikimedistas do Uruguai) and Karen Worcman (Museu da Pessoa) - watch it in PT-BR / ES
 * Demo of the Query Builder live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, September 14 at 18:00 CEST
 * Ongoing:
 * Data Quality Days - several sessions happened over the past days and more are coming this week. Recordings, slides and notes are linked in the program
 * Past:
 * Forex - 36C3 Wikipaka WG: Live querying: let’s explore Wikidata together! - YouTube


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Papers
 * Linking Data and Descriptions on Moths Using the Wikimedia Ecosystem Part of collection TDWG Proceedings 2021
 * other
 * Ainali talks about Wikidata on The World According to Wikipedia podcast.


 * Tool of the week
 * Wwwyzzerdd for Wikidata is a browser extension that allows you to view and edit Wikidata information from Wikipedia (demo video). Install it in Firefox or Chrome


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Face The Facts mobile app allows you to scan election posters and see the true facts about politicians.
 * Wikidata now has over 150,000 Senses on Lexemes!


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: GRAC rating
 * External identifiers: Center for Turkish Cinema Studies film ID, Civilisti Italiani member ID, Government Publications Number (Taiwan), Global Location Number, Iași Central University Library ID, Encyclopaedia of Islam (second edition) ID, Gujarati Vishwakosh entry, Télé-Loisirs ID, Anagrafe degli studiosi ID, e-Maapõu stratigraphy ID, INAPP Thesaurus ID, Douyin video ID, IndieMag game ID, INAPP author ID, TBDB ID, Enciclopedia dello Sport ID, INAPP work ID, Fondation du patrimoine ID, Endemia.nc animal taxon ID, Gry Online game ID, Encyclopaedia of Islam (first edition) ID, Encyclopaedia of Islam (third edition) ID, Festivaletteratura person ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: Mexican Video Game content classification category, NZTCS conservation status, Unique Identifier, relevant date for copyright, Allaboutjazz musician ID, Google Fonts ID
 * External identifiers: museum-digital place ID, EPA Facility Registry Service ID, thefreedictionary dictionary term ID, TermCymru ID, Bildatlas-Künstler-ID, Lexicon of Medieval Nordic Law ID, NZTCS ID, Australian Research Council Grant ID, PSC, SAM id, Dictionary of Old Norse Prose ID, Norsk Akademis Ordbok ID, Swedish Food Agency food ID, e-Maapõu locality ID, Grand dictionnaire terminologique ID, Kallías, Owler company ID


 * Query examples:
 * List of movies with Jean-Paul Belmondo ordered by number of sitelinks (based on source via d:Template:Generic queries for actors)
 * List of actors with whom Jean-Paul Belmondo has played the most (based on source via d:Template:Generic queries for actors)
 * count of movies with Jean-Paul Belmondo by decade
 * List of characters in Tintin ordered by number of apparitions (source)
 * People with no birth/death/floruit dates but which have a position from which dates can be inferred (source)
 * Map of the origin of diamond open access journal (Q108440863) publications (source)
 * Map of place names in Ghana ending with "li", "ti", "om" (source)
 * Development
 * Mismatch Finder: The website part of the tool is taking shape but is not quite functional yet. We worked on creating the results page. You can see the current very much not finished state at https://mismatch-finder.toolforge.org/
 * Linked the Query Builder from the Query Service so it is discoverable (T280229)
 * Finished work on normalizing filenames when linking to media files on Commons (T251480)
 * All new wbstack.com wikis will now be created with elastic search support, including Wikibase indexes! All existing sites will have elastic search soon! (Source)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 15:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #486
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Bionomia and maintaining Wikidata synchrony with David Shorthouse (Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada)., Sep 21st.
 * Lightning Talk: Wikidata in your Civic Tech project | Summit 2021 - YouTube
 * Ongoing:
 * The Creative Commons Global Summit and Hack4OpenGLAM hackathon take place from September 20 until 24 (fully online). Several sessions and projects are related to Wikidata and/or Wikibase (see schedule search).
 * Past:
 * Data Quality Days:
 * Periodic editathons as a way to improve data quality on Wikidata: an experiment in Italy - YouTube
 * Bringing Czech authority files into 21st century: Integration with Wikidata - YouTube


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Videos
 * Mapping the Scottish Reformation - using Wikidata, Wikipedia's sister project - YouTube
 * OpenSym 2021: WDProp: Web Application to Analyse Multilingual Aspects of Wikidata Properties - YouTube
 * Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #53 (user scripts and gadgets that can help you edit) - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * User:Inductiveload/scripts/ShowQsAndPs shows the Q and P IDs on Items.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * OpenRefine has started development of features for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. Sign up here if you want to receive occasional updates on a Wikimedia talk page of your choice.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: created for, Candomblé nation, NZTCS conservation status, Mexican video game rating category
 * External identifiers: INAPP author ID, TBDB ID, Enciclopedia dello Sport ID, INAPP work ID, Fondation du patrimoine ID, Endemia.nc animal taxon ID, Gry-Online game ID, Encyclopaedia of Islam (first edition) ID, Encyclopaedia of Islam (third edition) ID, Festivaletteratura person ID, Every Noise at Once ID, Spotify show episode ID, Online Begraafplaatsen cemetery ID, Bing entity ID, TermCymru ID, NZTCS ID, Online Begraafplaatsen person ID, UK Renewable Energy Planning Database ID, ICCD ID - Santuari Cristiani, Naver Post member ID, Swedish Food Agency food ID, Dictionary of Old Norse Prose ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: relevant date for copyright, issuing agency, Hardy's Guide to Marine Gastropods ID, main subject for, type host taxon, has thematic relation, location of lexeme usage, ODOT county code, illustrative content
 * External identifiers: e-Maapõu locality ID, Grand dictionnaire terminologique ID, Google Fonts ID, Kallías, Owler company ID, Vietherb species ID, Vietherb metabolite ID, Allrugby, SLSP editions ID, Issuu ID, XXI Secolo ID, Journées européennes du patrimoine ID, Peoples.ru ID, musik-sammler.de artist ID, HJP ID, NVE reservoir ID, Biografija.ru ID, Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database ID, Madrean Discovery Expeditions Fauna Database ID, IRIS Tuscany IDs, Joshua Project people group ID, Flipboard ID, Washington Rare Plant Field Guide (2021- Version) ID, Gente di Tuscia ID, Poetsgate poem ID, AdoroCinema person ID, Zenodo Communities ID, National Union Catalog ID


 * Query examples:
 * Biological taxa named after (metal (and other) music bands
 * Works by Dante Alighieri (1265 - September 13/14, 1321)
 * Cumulative page views for candidates in Czech parliamentary election 2021, split by party (Source)


 * Development
 * The new Streaming Updater for Wikidata Query Service will be in production 18 Oct 2021
 * Working on changing the way sitelinks to Wikimedia Commons are created from Item data; now using topic's main category (P910) and category related to list (P1754) before Commons category (P373) (T232927)
 * Continuing the work on the Mismatch Finder. This week we focused on the remaining groundwork for showing the first mismatches for review.
 * Continuing to work on improvements to the underlying system of how edits are propagated from Wikidata to the other Wikimedia projects.
 * Implemented two improvements for constraints: the “distinct values” constraint type now supports the “separator” parameter (T277855) and we no longer check qualifiers on some unusual™ properties (T235292)
 * Adding tags to some of the remaining UI edits that didn't get them yet for edits on Lexemes (T290950)
 * Making it possible to add tags to some remaining Lexeme API modules (T290951)
 * Fixed a bug in the Query Builder where it didn't show labels when opening an existing visual query from a shared link (T280684)
 * Made the Query Builder more visible in the Query Service UI (T280229)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 15:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 46
 The Wikipedia Library Books & Bytes

Issue 46, July – August 2021 
 * Library design improvements deployed
 * New collections available in English and German
 * Wikimania presentation

Read the full newsletter Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:15, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #487
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 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship: BrokenSegue (RfP scheduled to end after 27 September 2021 14:36 UTC)


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * We’re celebrating the 9th birthday of Wikidata on October 29 during the WikidataCon 🎂 Did you know that you can participate in the celebration by preparing a birthday present or attending events? Here’s how you can get involved!
 * The next Wikibase live session is 16:00 GMT on Thursday 30th September 2021 (18:00 Berlin time). All are welcome!
 * LIVE Wikidata editing #55 (with OpenRefine) - YouTube, Facebook, October 2 at 18:00 UTC
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #81, October 3
 * COVIWD: COVID-19 Wikidata Dashboard, 30 Sep 2021, Time: 13.00-14.00 WIB (join details)
 * Past:
 * Data Quality Days: You can find slides, videos and notes for many of the sessions on the event page.
 * Wiki Movimento Brasil. The universe of libraries:
 * Wikidata and the multiplication of knowledge potencies (in Portuguese)
 * Wikidata and the multiplication of knowledge powers (in Portuguese)
 * LIVE Wikidata editing #54 - YouTube, Facebook


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Connecting Cell Ontology and Wikidata via Mix’n’match
 * Papers
 * WDProp: Web Application to Analyse Multilingual Aspects of Wikidata Properties, OpenSym 2021, 15-17 September 2021 (Slides, source code, Short Video)
 * Videos
 * How to work with Wikidata in the library (in Italian) - YouTube
 * Demo: create Wikidata lexemes from Goethe's "Der Versuch die Metamorphose der Pflanzen zu erklären" - YouTube
 * Demo of adding a string to Wikidata as a lexeme and linking it to the corresponding Wikidata item - YouTube
 * Wikidata Query Service assistance (in French) - YouTube
 * Experiences of Using WDumper to Create Topical Subsets from Wikidata - YouTube
 * Other
 * Chirpanalytica: "Give me your Twitter name and I'll tell you which party you choose". "What if you could automatically determine the political orientation of a person using just a Twitter account? This is exactly what I have been doing for the past two years".
 * That Wikidata Buzz - Siobhan Leachman talks about Wikidata in the The World According to Wikipedia podcast.
 * That Wikidata Buzz - Siobhan Leachman talks about Wikidata in the The World According to Wikipedia podcast.


 * Tool of the week
 * User-level gender statistics for Wikipedia an Observable notebook which computes the share of articles created on fr.wikipedia.org by gender using P21 property through Wikidata's API.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * You can nominate your favorite Wikidata projects (tools, community initiatives, WikiProjects...) until October 10th for the WikidataCon community awards.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: App Store age rating, music created for, issuing agent of work, FLOSS development policy URL, relevant date for copyright, inscription image, Hardy's Guide to Marine Gastropods URL
 * External identifiers: Australian Research Council Grant ID, Grand dictionnaire terminologique ID, Materials Project material ID, All.Rugby player ID, swisscovery edition ID, e-Maapõu locality ID, Online Begraafplaatsen memorial ID, PoetsGate poem ID, NVE reservoir ID, FLORE author ID, USiena air author ID, IRIS IMT author ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: WikiProject importance scale rating, predicate for, eHive ID
 * External identifiers: Database of Czech amateur theater ID, National Gallery Prague work ID, George Eastman Museum artist ID, All.Rugby club ID, Sachsens-Schlösser-Kennung, Dizionario di Economia e Finanza ID, Densho Encyclopedia ID, AsianWiki ID, Channel One Russia show ID, DWDS lemma ID, WDG lemma ID, company code (RICS)


 * Query examples:
 * Given name "Filaret" ranked within similar names (source: talk page of item)
 * Start time of open access journals known to Wikidata (Source)
 * Mouths of rivers flowing into the Arctic (Source)
 * What chocolate mousse is called in different languages (Source)
 * Women in Wikidata whose husbands are economists with articles on the English Wikipedia, but they themselves lack articles (adapted from Source)
 * Same with husbands (adapted from Source)
 * People employed by the ZDF with an image on Commons and a link to the German language Wikipedia (Source)
 * Coordinates of the birth places of people named Antoine (Source)
 * Place of birth of people named Antoine, Tony, Antonio, etc
 * UK MPs who had the most identified descendants who were themselves MPs (Source)
 * Newest database reports: top missing properties by number of sitelinks/P26 (works again)


 * Development
 * Changed the formatting of low year numbers so that they now show as e.g. “5 CE” instead of “5” to reduce ambiugity in dates like “March 5 (CE)” (T104750)
 * Working on fixing an issue where two Properties could have the same label in a given language (T289473)
 * Working on preventing a few more cases where two Items could have the same sitelink (T291377)
 * Mismatch Finder: Continuing to work on showing mismatches on the results page so that they can be reviewed
 * Continuing to work on technical improvements to how changes on Wikidata are propagated to Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

<div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 13:45, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #488
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 * Discussions
 * Closed request for adminship: BrokenSegue. Welcome onboard \o/


 * Events
 * Upcoming
 * OSM TW x Wikidata Taiwan Taipei (Q1867) Meetup 2021-10-04, Mozilla Community Space Taipei (Q61752245)
 * Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Stephanie Sapienza and Emily Frazier on Unlocking the airwaves, a digital archive project that compiles early educational public radio content from the National Association of Educational Broadcasters (NAEB). Agenda with call link, October 5.
 * SPARQL queries live on Twitch in French, by Vigneron, October 5 at 18:00 CEST
 * Ongoing:
 * New Wikidata Lexemes Challenge! Help to improve lexicographical data on Wikidata. This week's theme: Seasons.
 * Past
 * Wikibase Live session logs (September 2021)
 * LD4 - video presentation start 05:00 Keepin 'N Sync... with wikidata ... and ORCID...and GBIF - slides by David Shorthouse
 * The Magnus list that was mentioned at 27:00 (please update list)
 * Ticket created related to problem mentioned with WD objects getting deleted - T291659
 * 2021-09-30, Talk "COVIWD: COVID-19 Wikidata Dashboard" at Seminar Pekanan IR-NLP &mdash; slides in English, video in Indonesian (source)


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * What can querying Wikidata do for me?
 * https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/10/01/synchronising-wikidata-and-wikipedia-an-outreachy-project/
 * Papers: Representing COVID-19 information in collaborative knowledge graphs: The case of Wikidata
 * Videos
 * Introduction to Wikidata for beginners Part. 1 (in Portuguese) - YouTube
 * How to work with Wikidata in the library (in Italian) - YouTube
 * How to work with Wikidata in the library (in Italian) - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * ItemSubjector is Python console tool that helps add main subject (P921) to groups of items in a semi-automatic way.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * You can nominate your favorite Wikidata projects (tools, community initiatives, WikiProjects...) until October 10th for the WikidataCon Community Awards
 * You can also sign up for a slot at the birthday presents lightning talks session at WikidataCon 2021 to present your gift for Wikidata birthday until October 16
 * Submissions for day 2 and 3 of WikidataCon are still open. You can submit sessions about a variety of topics until October 20


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: App Store age rating, music created for, issuing agent of work, FLOSS development policy URL, relevant date for copyright, inscription image, Hardy's Guide to Marine Gastropods URL, number of evacuated, template populates category, number of tries marked, madhhab
 * External identifiers: Australian Research Council Grant ID, Grand dictionnaire terminologique ID, Materials Project material ID, All.Rugby player ID, swisscovery edition ID, e-Maapõu locality ID, Online Begraafplaatsen memorial ID, PoetsGate poem ID, NVE reservoir ID, FLORE author ID, USiena air author ID, IRIS IMT author ID, Journées européennes du patrimoine ID, Peoples.ru person ID, Kallías ID, Convict Records of Australia ID, Croatian Language Portal identifier, Issuu ID, Flipboard ID, Umění pro město ID, BBC Food ID, Baijiahao ID, Inventory of Heritage Artefacts institution ID, Inventory of Heritage Artefacts object ID, Vietherb species ID, Vietherb metabolite ID, Zenodo communities ID, XXI Secolo ID, Indonesian Museum National Registration System ID, Postimees topic ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: WikiProject importance scale rating, predicate for, eHive ID, original description, Bowers acronym, mul label property, stylized name
 * External identifiers: Database of Czech amateur theater ID, National Gallery Prague work ID, George Eastman Museum artist ID, All.Rugby club ID, Sachsens-Schlösser-Kennung, Dizionario di Economia e Finanza ID, Densho Encyclopedia ID, AsianWiki ID, Channel One Russia show ID, DWDS lemma ID, WDG lemma ID, company code (RICS), IRIS Sapienza author ID, AFNIL publisher ID, Institut de recherche pour le développement (IRD) identifier, TMOK ID, Kastra ID, Indigenous Corporation Number, United Nations Treaty Collection object ID, Österreichischer Fußball-Bund ID, MYmovies-Personenkennung, IGI Global Dictionary ID, L'Unificazione ID, EMBO member ID


 * Query examples:
 * Women born in Nigeria with an article in Basque for Listeria (Source)
 * Still life paintings by women (Source)
 * Map of cemeteries in New Zealand (Source)
 * Right Livelihood Award laureates (Source)
 * Chelsea FC players, with English Wikipedia article, Commons image, etc (Source)
 * Newest database reports: Missing properties by number of sitelinks: P22 (father) (works again)


 * Development
 * Finished preventing a case where the same sitelink could be added to two different Items (T291377)
 * Continuing work on the Mismatch Finder. Currently focusing on showing the details of the mismatches to the person reviewing mismatches.
 * Continued work on not allowing two Properties to have the same label after undo/revert (T289473)
 * Continuing work on improving how changes on Wikidata are propagated to Wikipedia and the other other Wikimedia projects. The new system is being rolled out to all wikis now. It should not change anything for editors and just be a technical improvement in the backend.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Suggested and open tasks!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Wikidata weekly summary #489
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 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * We’re celebrating the 9th birthday of Wikidata on October 29 during the WikidataCon 🎂 Did you know that you can participate in the celebration by preparing a birthday present or attending events? Here’s how you can get involved!
 * Wikidata/Wikibase office hour, 16:00 UTC on Wednesday 20th October 2021 (18:00 Berlin time), on the Wikidata Telegram channel.
 * Upcoming: WMF search platform team office hour, Wednesday, October 13th, 2021 at 15:00-16:00 GMT / 08:00-09:00 PDT / 11:00-12:00 EDT / 17:00-18:00 CEST. Etherpad, Google Meet. You can come and chat about the Wikidata & Commons Query Service.
 * LIVE Wikidata editing #57 - YouTube, Facebook, October 16 at 18:00 UTC
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #83, October 17
 * Ongoing:
 * Weekly Lexemes Challenge #11, Perception and Senses


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Wikidata in African Language Communities
 * Media art on Wikipedia wants to make collections and metadata more accessible (in Dutch)
 * Papers
 * Modeling and Documenting Queer Voices and Topics on Wikidata, Panel on Metadata and Gender Diversity, Amber Billey, Clair A Kronk, John Samuel, Rachel Ivy Clarke, Sayward Schoonmaker, DCMI Virtual 2021, October 8, 2021, Slides
 * Videos
 * Introduction to Wikidata for beginners. Part 2 (in Italian) - YouTube
 * Introduction to Wikidata (in Spanish) - YouTube
 * Scripts and gadgets in Wikidata (in French) - YouTube
 * Wikidata Workshop 2021 - Coupling Wikipedia Categories with Wikidata Statements for Better Semantics - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * Neguess is a Wikidata entity guessing game with negative clues. (demo video)


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * You can nominate your favorite Wikidata projects (tools, community initiatives, WikiProjects...) until October 10th for the WikidataCon Community Awards
 * You can also sign up for a slot at the birthday presents lightning talks session at WikidataCon 2021 to present your gift for Wikidata birthday until October 16
 * Submissions for day 2 and 3 of WikidataCon are still open. You can submit sessions about a variety of topics until October 20
 * Wikimedia Foundation is hiring a Graph Consultant to help migrate the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) from Blazegraph to a different RDF store. Apply here!
 * The WMF Search team will begin data transfer for the new Streaming Updater today (11 Oct 2021).


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: dissertation program, date of probate
 * External identifiers: Densho Encyclopedia ID, Institut de recherche pour le développement (IRD) identifier, DWDS lemma ID, Dizionario di Economia e Finanza ID, National Gallery Prague work ID, Hill Museum & Manuscript Library ID, Database of Czech Amateur Theater person ID, WDG lemma ID, The World Factbook country ID, AFNIL publisher ID, RICS company code, Greek Castles ID, Gente di Tuscia ID, Lexicon of Medieval Nordic Law ID, Product and Service Code, SAM ID, IRIS Sapienza author ID, museum-digital place ID, Det Norske Akademis Ordbok ID, PDDikti ID, VI.BE platform ID, Owler company ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: registration number, present in non-fictional work, NIK (Nomor Induk Kependudukan), reports to, excitation energy, merger, split-off, choreography for
 * External identifiers: AllSides ID, Apple maps id, Enciclopedia dei ragazzi ID, NLI archive ID, CANTIC ID, Bat Sheva Archive ID, Research Vocabularies Australia ID, Australian Reptile Online Database ID, Chi era Costui - Plaque ID, Research Data Australia ID, Australian Institute for Disaster Resilience Knowledge Hub resource ID, Parliament of Australia MP ID, Trove work ID, Geographical Names Board of NSW geoname ID, Arachne.org.au ID, Remontees-mecaniques.net ID, Apple Music track ID


 * Query examples:
 * Share of women for each Nobel prize (source)
 * Nobel Prize statistics on number of recipients for award wrt. gender (interactive plot) (source)
 * Share of women among Nobel prize winners by decade
 * Notable books on linked data, semantic technologies, and semantic knowledge graphs (source)
 * Benelux railway stations connected from Brussels-South railway station (Q800587) (source)
 * Date of opening and closing of railway stations in Denmark (Source)
 * Map or Talaiotic archeological culture sites located in the Menorca island in Spain (source)
 * Location of all the meteorological stations in Navarre (source)
 * Photos of participants in the Pandora Papers (source)
 * Diameter, size and mass of balls (source)
 * French departments with their shape
 * Longest rivers located in France and which did not gave their name to a department (source)
 * [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Fheight%20%3FcountryLabel%20%3FsubjectLabel%20%3Fcoords%20%3Fimage%20WITH%20%7B%0A%20%20SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FheightStatement%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Ftype%20.%0A%20%20%20%20VALUES%20%3Ftype%20%7B%20wd%3AQ1779653%20wd%3AQ179700%20wd%3AQ1051606%20wd%3AQ29168169%20wd%3AQ3476533%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ21745157%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP5816%20wd%3AQ56556915%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20p%3AP2048%20%3FheightStatement%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%20%3FheightStatement%20pq%3AP518%20wd%3AQ179700%20%7D%20UNION%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%20FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%20%7B%20%3FheightStatement%20pq%3AP518%20%3Fx%20%7D%20%7D%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%7D%0A%7D%20AS%20%25i%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20INCLUDE%20%25i%20.%0A%20%20%3FheightStatement%20psv%3AP2048%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3AquantityAmount%20%3FbaseHeight%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3AquantityUnit%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20p%3AP2370%2Fpsv%3AP2370%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3AquantityAmount%20%3FunitHeight%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3AquantityUnit%20wd%3AQ11573%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%5D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%5D%0A%20%20%20%20%5D.%0A%20%20BIND%20%28%20%3FbaseHeight%20%2a%20%3FunitHeight%20AS%20%3Fheight%20%29%0A%20%20FILTER%20%28%20%3Fheight%20%3E%3D%2030%20%29%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP17%20%3Fcountry%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP625%20%3Fcoords%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fimage%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP921%20%3Fsubject%20%7D%0A%20%20%23SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fheight%29%20%3FcountryLabel%20%3FitemLabel%0A%20 Statues measuring more than 30 m in height (excluding the pedestal)] (Source)


 * Development
 * Mismatch Finder: We are continuing the work on the review part of the system. We are now working on letting reviewers indicate if the mismatch is on Wikidata, the other database, both or neither.
 * Fixed a bug where it was possible for two Properties to have the same label in a given language by undoing/reverting an edit (T289473)
 * Fixed a confusing error message that was being shown when trying to save geoshape / tabular data that doesn’t exist (T285758)
 * Removing some unnecessary entity link formatting in edit summaries and special pages to improve performance (T292203)
 * Fixing an issue with invalid dates that the API accepts but should not (T289417)
 * Migrated all Wikimedia wikis to use the new change dispatching system. This system is responsible for notifying the other wikis about edits made on Wikidata that affect their articles so the article is refreshed and edits are added to recent changes and watchlists.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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