User talk:Marginewiki

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Marginewiki/sandbox


A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Marginewiki/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Notable people who have edited Wikipedia). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. —Cryptic 21:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

AntiDionysius (talk) 14:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Multiple 3rd party sources were provided showing that the article is backed by impartial sites. There is no advertisement in this article. Marginewiki (talk) 22:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The sources don't even come into it; it's about how the page was written. Not a single sentence of the lead even approached neutrality; the first sentence, "Margine Biswas is a notable architect and entrepreneur renowned for her commitment to community and sustainable projects." was typical. —Cryptic 22:19, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to edit the article? Marginewiki (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Fundamentally you shouldn't be creating articles about yourself at any point. If such an article existed, you shouldn't be editing it either. It's a conflict of interest. This is illustrated by the fact that you didn't see anything promotional about the article you wrote, yet to other users it read like an advertisement from the very first sentence. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be a bad idea. Almost everybody is really bad at writing about themselves, and articles starting out like this one essentially never become acceptable in my experience - I've seen it happen no more than a half dozen times since I began editing in 2005.If you want the text to reuse somewhere else, register an email address at Special:Preferences and let me know, and I'll send it to you.  Or if you still think my deletion was incorrect, you can formally appeal it at WP:Deletion review, but I urge you not to waste your and our time there - this was not a particularly close call. —Cryptic 23:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've asked a colleague to review the post. Would it be possible for my colleague to edit the article? Marginewiki (talk) 13:24, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've confirmed my e-mail. If my colleague reviews the article can it be uploaded for review using this account? Marginewiki (talk) 13:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * A colleague of yours would also fall under the conflict of interest policy. Even with their review, if they didn't have a COI, the problem is still that you're writing an article about yourself; as Cryptic said, the article was not close to being encyclopaedic. The first thing listed in "Things to avoid" when creating your first article is: ""Articles about yourself, your family or friends, your website, a band you're in, your teacher, etc. If you or someone or something you are personally involved with is suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia, let someone else add that article. You will have to ignore all your own knowledge and all your own feelings in order to create an article that is appropriately sourced and neutral.""
 * I've mailed the last revision. (I don't usually monitor that email address, and won't see any replies you make to it.)Some things to be aware of:
 * Your colleague should not reuse this account; that would result in you both being blocked from editing. See .  They'll have to register their own.
 * Your colleague should read our conflict of interest guideline (simplified introduction here, but it's not a substitute), and openly disclose their conflict of interest and their connection to this account. Otherwise, you're both likely to be blocked for what we colorfully refer to as "meatpuppetry".
 * Your colleague should certainly not repost your sandbox as-is and attempt to then edit it; it'll just be immediately flagged for deletion again. Make it entirely non-promotional first.
 * If you want to have any hope at all of this eventually becoming a Wikipedia article, rather than a draft that's just barely past the threshold that individual administrators delete it on sight, you're going to need much better referencing. About half the references at the time I deleted it were mere directory listings or passing mentions with a quote, which count for nothing at all; the remainder were interviews, which count for very little.  Our inclusion criteria - also recommended reading - are, at their core, a restatement of the need for high quality sources, which these were very much not.
 * All in all, I don't like your chances, and I think you're squandering both your and your colleague's time. Sorry if that sounds cynical and jaded. —Cryptic 00:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank your your input. 2600:100C:A200:640:594D:77C6:CF85:B7A8 (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2023 (UTC)