User talk:Marianna52

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Mountain Meadows Massacre

Controversy: Whether Descendent's You Tube Site Should be embeded in the so called Objective Wikipedia Site.

Reason Site Taken Down: Disagreement on all sides.

Most recent News: MMM Historians not granted access to California Archives Donated to Riverside Major Archive and other archives.

My Opinion: Church unaware of California History, the massive number of descendents who might have primary sources, where to look for them, unwilling to patch it up with poorly paid volunteer librarians who have worked for many years.

No advertising in Utah, Whittier, and Centerville, Alameda papers. No looking for archived academic papers, and unwillingness to acccept work of oral Historians. The notion that only descendants of the survivors stories are withoutbias, that the mass killing at the Meadows outweighed both the Genocide of Indigenous Californians [some 660,000 souls], and the thousands of Genocidal Acts against Mormons, of Murder, Spreading of Disease, Burning of Houses at Night. War Orphans without shoes or winter clothes. Raped Mothers and Young Women, Floggings, No rights to marked graves or Cemetaries until they reached Utah.

The Crime of the Southern Utah Mormons, that outweighs the Bear River Massacre and the anti-Mormon Genocides is not that the victims were innocent, but that they were White Southerners.

The Missouri Mormon Extermination act and Trail of Tears were set in motion the same Winter, 20 years before the Massacre. I'm not saying that the drunken braggarts who shot up Cedar City with the gun they claimed they had used, among others, to asasinate Joseph Smith could not have been identified and disapeared without further violence. They should have waited for their superiors, and orders. That is why Mormon Historians, and there are many, would not accept the idea that Brigham could have given the order.

It was a stupid plan. To be contMarianna52 (talk) 23:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)