User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 18


 * Why???? - Mtmelendez (Talk 13:28, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Will we still see you around or is this goodbye? -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  13:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, that slipped my mind for a moment :) -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  04:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand perfectly. Dealing with the Wiki culture can be a pain in the burro. However, there hasn't been a more proficient Puerto Rican contributing to WP, and as such, Tony deserves all the praise in the world. Godspeed! Demf 15:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Que honor Tony. And more to be nominated by you and Agueybana! I was humbled by the list of supporters, it certainly sets expectations high! Hopefully, I can count on all of you for counsel and support when the going gets rough. Gracias!! - Mtmelendez (Talk 10:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Sabes, solo falta Agueybana... - Mtmelendez (Talk 10:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Jonny_Moseley.JPG listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Jonny_Moseley.JPG, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Calliopejen1 17:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, there are a lot of images for him on Flickr. See http://flickr.com/search/?q=Jonny%20Moseley&w=all Pick one you like that looks like it really was taken by the Flickr user, not just scanned from a magazine, and send that Flickr user an email asking them to change the license on it to Creative Commons Attribution or Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike. Their incentive is that if they do it, you will put it up on the article, and the attribution for the image will link to their Flickr account or website, or wherever they want, and Wikipedia is the #9 most popular web site in the world. My success rate for questions like that is a bit over half, so with over 100 images to choose from, it's almost certain you'll get someone to agree. I could do this for you, but something about teaching someone how to fish rather than giving them a fish... :-) --AnonEMouse (squeak) 17:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking good - the owner of http://flickr.com/photos/telstar/47854252/ says he is a registered Wikipedian himself and will be glad to add the picture to the article himself later today. Maybe even two pictures if we're lucky. That's the first time that happened to me, that I met someone who says "sure, but why don't I do it myself". :-) --AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It took a few more days than that, but there it is, in Jonny Moseley, with thanks to User:Telstar Logistics! --AnonEMouse (squeak) 22:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Chat
Hi Tony:

Thanks for your careful maintenance of the sections on Puerto Rico. I am contacting you re: Virgil Miller, my Great Uncle. He was born and raised in Puerto Rico. After he graduated from High School in San Juan, he attended West Point, from which he graduated. He led a very fascinating life, most especially his contributions during WWII leading the 442. In addition, he was very proud to be one of the first people from Puerto Rico to graduate from West Point.

If you want further evidence of any of this- note in the "Military History of Puerto Rico" section of Wikipedia, the book that is cited, Historias de Puerto Rico- the author is Paul G. Miller. Paul G. Miller is the father of Virgil Miller. There is also a school named after him in Puerto Rico, which you can also confirm via a Google search. This is the most open source evidence I can show you, but I did not add his name lightly to this most distinguished list of Puerto Ricans.

By taking his name out, and not including him, I believe you are omitting a very interesting man from the roster.

I hope that you agree and will put his name back in the appropriate sections in Wikipedia.

Thank you,

Andrew Macaulay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.189.92 (talk) 16:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello Andrew, I very much want to add the name Col. Virigil Miller. I would'nt mind even writing an article about him. The only problem is that Wikipedia requires verifiable sources to be cited which can proof that he was born in P.R. If you want you can get ahold of me via e-mail, because I would like to learn more about him. Tony the Marine 16:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Good article reassessment
Tony, I've commented on the GAR of Hispanic Admirals in the United States Navy. I think some users there have a point that the article, is not an article, but a list. I explained why there. I also think some references could be improved, like they said. After that, you should move on to WP:FLC, which I think it could pass if the sources are fixed.

As for original research, I totally disagree with them. I wrote my opinion, and think it's well founded. This article should not be deleted in any way.

I apologize for not supporting your work as much as you deserve it. Works like these don't get written very often, and certainly not of that quality. I just expressed my true opinion on the WP:GA technicality of not including lists. Take care. - Mtmelendez (Talk 05:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Article on the 65th Infantry Documentary in The New York Times
Dear Tony,

You may be interested in this article:

http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?query=Puerto+Rico&srchst=nyt

On a separate note, do you have any information about the military contributions of Puerto Ricans to Ireland's Irish Free State and eventual independence. Also, are you interested in Puerto Rican's participation in Spain's Civil War (1936-39) on both of the main sides of the conflict.

All the best,

Hypathia 16:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Would I be intersted? You bet your life I would (smile). Tony the Marine 17:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Tony,

I am happy you are interested. Herein I include two interesting links that I hope to know if they could help for the Puerto Ricans in Military History or Puerto Rico's Military History article:

http://www.nodo50.org/age/carmelodelg.htm (This is about fellow Puerto Rican, Carmelo Delgado Delgado, who fought on the Republican side of Spain's 1936-1939 Civil War)

http://www.generalisimofranco.com/GC/protagonistas/0000G.htm (Please "jump" to the pertinent part about another fellow Puerto Rican, Goded Llopis, Manuel, who fought on the side of the Nationals and, regardless of his political views, seems to have been very brave when the Nationals were far from seeing victory in the horizon).

Please let me know what you think about this. I would love to hear your feedback and/or your questions, even if it's a short line.

All the best from a una fellow Boricua!

Hypathia 21:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Miller
Tony:

If you could email me- I will provide you with a document that I retrieved from West Point, that documents that Virgil was born in PR, he received his apmt to West Point for PR, and that he returned home in 1926 to spend most of that year in PR.

I will also need a fax # so I can fax this document to you.

Thank you,

Andrew Macaulay

andrewsmacaulay@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.189.92 (talk) 17:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Its done!
It took a while but a preliminary version of the nomination is on my sandbox, feel free to modify it, cheers. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Add it, the more the merrier :) I will move the entire nom to formal page by noon tommorow so the process can run smoothly. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  06:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * He it appears somebody was thinking the same as us, I will go ahead and co-nom with them. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  06:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Tony
Please just stay silent on the Good Article thing. It is just one of those wacky Wikipedia idiotic happenings -- please don't take it to heart. Please don't change anything about yourself here at Wikipedia. This is a heartfelt request from me to you. -- Mattisse 02:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:Reminder
✅ -- Ag ü  eybaná  15:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XIX (September 2007)
Delivered by grafikbot 13:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

User:SandyGeorgia
I had to remove the master editor award from his award page. SandyGeorgia does not meet the criteria for a Master Editor Barnstar. You must have 40,000 edits and 5 years of service to receive or give yourself this award. SandyGeorgia has only been a member since February 2006. He is eligeble for the Experienced & Established Editor award or you could give him another award that he isn't already able to give himself.--Dr who1975 15:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh for goodness sake. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Nicky Cruz.JPG
You have claimed that Nicky Cruz.JPG is in the public domain as it was published before 1923, but this seems unlikely to be as he was not born until 1938. I have removed the PD-US template, so the image now has not licensing information and is subject to deletion. Cheers --Pak21 13:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, there are a lot of photos of him on Flickr. Do you want to try to request one this time? It's not hard, really, and works a bit more than half the time. Here's a request I wrote just this morning.


 * Subject: Clare Short photo for Wikipedia?
 * Hi, I'm a volunteer editor for Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia project. We have an article about Clare Short that lacks a free picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Short
 * I noticed your nice photo of her on Flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/georgimabee/273967845/
 * If you could change the license on that photo to Creative Commons Attribution or Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike, we could use that image for our article. You would be credited as the photographer. The Wikipedia is currently the #9 web site in the world, so that means a lot of people would benefit and be able to see the photo.
 * If you agree, please change the license to CC-BY or CC-BY-SA, and respond to this email with how you want to be credited - Flickr account name, full name, website link?
 * Thank you,
 * An Anon E Mouse Wikipedia editor,
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AnonEMouse


 * --AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I was actually rather hoping you could do it, and was trying to show you how. I like and respect you a great deal, and would be happy to help to an extent, but it seems this sort of thing comes up often... --AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I impose upon you for a favor?
Hiya Tony! Can I bug you for a favor? About two weeks ago a pair of fair use images were tagged as being considered for deletion. I didn't make a move to save them becuase the sourcing requirements for these two images were to hard to come up with, and I was not entirely sure that they had been published off Wikipedia, so I decided the best thing to do would be to allow both to be deleted. The first one was, but for some reason the second one (Image:Tom II (Toonami).JPG) is still here, and its been almost two weeks since it was up for deleteion. I don't think anyone will object to deleting it at this point (its been tagged since september), so could you delete it for me? I would apreciate it. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks for the help. My guess is that someone missed the imaged when the other one got deleted, I am just getting concerned because deletions don;t usually take this long. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Award
How on earth did you manage to do all that contributing to the MILHIST project and yet not recieve this award?!? I am glad I caught that when I did, it would be real embaressing for one of our top rated contributers to a subject area of great importance to have retired from active writing without earning this. Semper Fi, Tony! Carry On! TomStar81 (Talk) 09:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Tony
Someone has proposed deletion for the Chicago Cubs all-time roster (please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chicago Cubs all-time roster), and the arguments they are using apply equally to all the all-time rosters. Just thought you might want to get your own opinion on this. Cheers. MusiCitizen 20:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:Your RfA
Gracias, Tony, y perdón por la decepción :-( -- Agüeybaná  14:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

GA sweep: Pedro del Valle GA status on hold
I have reassessed Pedro del Valle as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. We are currently revisiting all listed Good articles in an effort to ensure that they continue to meet the Good article criteria.

In reviewing the article, I came across some issues that may need to be addressed; I have left a detailed summary on the article's talk page. As a result I have put Pedro del Valle's GA status on hold. This will remain in place for a week or so before a final decision is taken as to the article's status.

I have left this message because, from the article history, you have been a significant contributor. If you no longer edit this article please accept my apologies and feel free to ignore this message ;)

All the best, EyeSerene TALK 12:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Tony, Quick work on the citations. I've done a little tighten up of citations and references.  &mdash; User: (talk) 02:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your work on this; I have now passed the article's reassessment. All the best, EyeSerene TALK 11:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on the baseball All-time roster standardization
Since you commented on the AfD debate for the Chicago Cubs All-time Roster, I thought you might have an interest in participating in a discussion on standardizing the baseball all-time roster articles. If you'd like to join in, the discussion is here. If not, please ignore this message. Thanks! --Fabrictramp 22:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

2/9 citations
Tony, I tightened up all the citation on 2/9 in your workshop. Most of the Who's Who references were pointing to the old, non-functional website versus it at tecom. Also, the USMC MoH citations now need to be accessed via archived versions. All links now seem to be working. &mdash; User: (talk) 13:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Block
Great work, Tony. -- Agüeybaná  01:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You forgot to block his sock puppet. -- Agüeybaná  01:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, Kaiser262 is the puppet; Polifonia is the master. -- Agüeybaná  01:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Agüeybaná  02:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Proof:
 * 1.) The CIA identifies the flag of Puerto Rico as a light blue, not a marine blue.
 * 2.) See this edit by Polifonia; see this edit by Kaiser262.
 * 3.) Compare Special:Contributions/Kaiser262 with Special:Contributions/Polifonia.
 * If that's not enough to prove they're related, then I don't know what is. -- Agüeybaná  02:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Further: the dark blue is used by the PNP; the light blue is used by the PIP; the sky blue is used by the PPD, the rest of the world, and me. -- Agüeybaná  02:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The Puerto Rico Legislature is divided on the issue of flag color. The House uses the dark blue while the Senate uses the light blue (you can see it when they broadcast their sessions on www.senadopr.tv).  I heard the Sen. Pres. one day explain that since the PR flag is a reversal of the Cuban flag and the Cuban flag included light blue stripes, the light blue triangle on the PR flag is historically correct.Pr4ever (talk) 01:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Puerto Rico
Ta-da... :) - Mtmelendez (Talk) 10:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 01:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Abdiel Colberg
Hi Marine,

I understand that my action on the Abdiel Colberg disambiguation page was confusing, however my intention was to suggest that the disambiguation page be deleted and the Abdiel Colberg (rollerblader) article be moved into its place. There are no other entries on the disambiguation page that have existing corresponding articles. Please let me know what you think.

Neelix 12:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Tony,


 * I appreciate the 'writing pointers' you posted on my talk page. With respect to surnames, I'm not really a genealogy expert.  I've just been wrestling with the problem of disambiguating biographical articles based on common given names and surnames along with many other users who are attempting to create more consistency in this area.  "List of People by Name" didn't work out, so hopefully the separate surname and given name pages will.  As for the surname Cole, this is what my limited research has come up with:


 * It is especially common among the Dutch.
 * It has at least two separate lineages - one derived from Nicholas (which means people's victory), and one derived from Old English (meaning black).


 * As a common surname with multiple origins, it's quite possible that one lineage of Cole's began in Ireland. I hope this helps!


 * Neelix 13:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Felicita and Gonzalo.jpg
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 * I have dealt with it. It specifically needs the article name in the rationale under the fair-use guidelines. Woodym555 23:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Pleasure as always. Regards. Woodym555 23:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Flag Icons in Bio's
Exactly:

Manual_of_Style_%28flags%29

Not for use in locations of birth and death

The use of flag icons in the birth and death information in a biographical article's introduction and/or infobox is strongly deprecated, as flags imply citizenship and/or nationality. Many people born abroad due to traveling parents never become citizens of the countries in which they were born and do not claim such a nationality. For example, actor Bruce Willis was born on a U.S. military base in Germany, so putting a German flag in his infobox, for any reason, might lead the casual reader to assume he is or was a German citizen. Similarly, many people die on foreign soil due to war, vacation accidents, etc. without any effect on their actual citizenship or nationality.

Carry on, I'll be in the area through out the day. WikiDon 19:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This would be a great example why not to do it right here:


 * Saw example and removed it. Issue could still be debatable, but not worth it. 21:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Hi - did take a quick look when you sent the e-mail; but, haven't made any edits. I'm trying to get organized for the November 1 update to the USMC portal. I've updated the picture, think I have the bio decided on, but am unsure of the article &mdash; I have an idea, but the article needs some major fixing first ... which I've been researching additional sources. In between, I've been making minor tweaks to USMC bios (looking for good candidates amongst them)...

I'll look more in depth at the article as soon as I finish with the portal.

Your e-mail note on how it came about was quite fascinating.

&mdash; User: (talk) 06:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Ron Rivera
Through your reversion, the Ron Rivera article now begins oddly again, by saying that Rivera "is" the first Puerto Rican and Mexican to play in the NFL. Since he's no longer playing in the NFL, however, "was" would be the natural choice in English. The feat described is something that has already occurred. It is no longer occurring. That's why I made the change, and I disagree with your statement that "was" suggested Rivera was dead. It most certainly does not. After all, we'd never say that Bill Clinton "is" the 42nd President. He "was" the 42nd President. And the use of "was" doesn't imply that Clinton has died. Regardless, best wishes, and I'll move my copy-editing on elsewhere.GreenGourd 02:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

User:YoSoyGuapo
Tony, you had unblocked a couple months ago with an apparent agreement that he refrain from edit warring. Well, he is at it again and there is a thread started at WP:ANI. What I personally find particularly alarming is that now he is following to other completely unrelated articles to start edit wars there as well. Not a good trend per WP:STALK. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Now another thread is underway at WP:AN. That's about the 5th site for this war.  So much for ending the edit warring...  —Wknight94 (talk) 03:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at this
I've been the subject of personal attacks Personal Attacks

Baseball Bugs and Couillaud have both tried to bate me with personal attacks calling me "Googleman"  stating that I learned English last week  Stating that I am trolling   stating that they are going to do something  for which I said they should  and then giving a sarcastic response  and commenting on my spelling. From going thru my history Coulliard could tell that I am hispanic (especially due to my usage of terms like Hermano and my Username of YoSoyGuapo) he has made comments mocking my heritage stating wikipedia may not have the "cojones" to fix this.

and have tried various means including RFC's, compromises and more. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=168787462&oldid=168787200 I've made notifications for an individual who is reverting talk pages by reporting it to 3RR and WP:AIV. I've complained about this situation and utilized wikipedia policies to fix this (RFC, inviting others to comment, making new templates, placing fact tags on POV). What else should i do? Should i simply walk away from this article? I haven't been on for a while and didn't touch the article b/c I wanted it to cool down. Nothing happened and Couillaud and Baseball Bugsgot personal with personal attacks. Should I just not touch this article anymore or ask for community mediation? YoSoyGuapo 19:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I saw the the alleged "Stalk". I have only been on one article that Couillaud happened to be on. I saw his contribution history and saw an interesting article, but going to one other article I don't think would qualify as stalking. YoSoyGuapo 19:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The individual who I am alleged to have stalked has gone thru my history as well as my former ID's and has in fact stalked me as he has admitted here. YoSoyGuapo 20:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XX (October 2007)
Delivered by grafikbot 15:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Portal updates
Tony, I'm slowly making the November updates to the portal. &mdash; User: (talk) 22:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Completed: Bio (check it out; I think it could use some of your magic to get to GA), image, new DYK.
 * Still to-do: Article and quote.


 * Which bio? USMC portal - current featured biography. &mdash; User: (talk) 23:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Updated the article. Now just need a new quote. &mdash; User: (talk) 00:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. Gabaldon was amazing.  There is a lot written about him, so expanding the article should not be too difficult.  &mdash; User: (talk) 02:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Guy Gabaldon updates
Tony, I see that you are working on the article in your workshop. Please note that there have been some updates to the current article that you'll want to incorporate into your working version.

BTW, I took a look at the Herman Bottcher article and made some updates to the references/citations.

&mdash; User: (talk) 03:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Charlie Pasarell
FYI, Charlie Pasarell was one of the greatest Puerto Rican tennis players in the mid-1900's---long before Gigi Fernández and others. His wife, Dora Matos de Pasarell, later acquired fame, too, as Gov. Ferré's Sports and Recreation head in 1969, the first female to hold the post.Pr4ever 01:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Just did it, but didn't want to do so without discussing it with you first. Thanks.Pr4ever 10:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

In Remembrance...
--nat Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?! 23:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and Happy Birthday
I wanted to say thanks for the award and Happy Birthday.--Kumioko 19:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Bombs in the Vietnam War
You might know a thing or two? Just trying to plug a gap in WP:RA SGGH speak! 16:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Birthday greetings
Happy 232nd Birthday to the United States Marine Corps! See these "232 reasons to love your Corps". Semper Fi! &mdash; User: (talk) 00:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you haven't already seen it &mdash; CMC message here. &mdash; User: (talk) 02:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hypathia
Tony this user was confirmed as sharing the identity of a obvious sockpuppet (based on behaviour please see the conversation linked on Hypathia’s user page where this more detailed) of Wiki En Wiki, this originally started when I asked the opinion of Lar who attended the Wiki En Wiki case and blocked several of his sockpuppets, Lar agreed with me about the user being a obvious sockpuppet of Wiki En and ran a checkuser that identified Hypathia as sharing this user’s IP address, I was somewhat skeptic of this at first seeing some behavioral differences between the users, but then noticed that both users added simmilar opinions in a merge discussion wich at the very least suggests sockpuppetry on Hypathia’s behalf and established a conection between them, even after noticing this I asked Lar to run a second checkuser that brought back the same results, I know that Hypathia doesn’t appear to be a bad faith user but after two checkusers and contributions linked her to this user I am convinced that we have a “good hand-bad hand” situation here. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

MySpace Wilkins
Greetings,

I will go ahead and add (once more) Wilkins' official MySpace website as an external link, because it *is* a realiable source. I am from his label, Masa Records (www.masarec.com), and we maintain both his official site (www.wilkinsmusic.com), as well as the MySpace profile (myspace.com/wilkinsmusic). Both pages are extremely important and reliable sources for Wilkins info and news.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.92.74 (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Sportspeople
Hi! I saw, that you have reverted my edits. But there is no need, because e.g. a Puerto Rican boxer is already a Puerto Rican sportspeople... All the categories "XXX sportspeople" have only subcategories and no athletes. Please see e.g. Category:American sportspeople! So it would be nice to do the same with "Puerto Rican sportspeople"? Kind regards and :) Doma-w 01:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Tony! Thanks for your answer. Well, it is not my idea to categorize the sportspeople like this. I understand and agree to your arguments, but sorrily this is not common way to categorize sportspeople in English wikipedia... Because than you can also add Jesse Vassallo to Category:Swimmers and Category:Olympic swimmers and maybe many more... Nevertheless I would not insult you and so I do not change it any more. I have no problem when Puerto Rican sportspeople differs from the others. Kind regards and :) Doma-w 11:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

García Méndez and Tristani
I just saw your rv of García Méndez and Tristani.

Tristani was the first Hispanic woman to be appointed as one of the five commissioners of the highly influential Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and served under President Clinton during the latter part of the 1990's, immediately after the 1996 federal legislation deregulating communications, during which the FCC had to simultaneously handle the explosion of internet, VoIP, cable TV expansion, the Bell system breakup and ensuing mergers and acquisitions, the commercialization of satellite radio, the popularization of GPS, etc. and she excelled in making these technologies rapidly available as fast as possible. She resigned from the FCC to run as the thankless Democratic nominee (the first Puerto Rican woman to run for the United States Senate, but not the first Puerto Rican since Paul Feleciano ran against Sam Brownback in Kansas) against incumbent Republican Sen. Pete Domenici in NM.

García Méndez is so notable that several weeks ago the Mayagüez General Post Office was named after him, by authority of a law recently signed by President Bush, in a bipartisan ceremony presided by Rep. Fortuño, Senate President McCklintock and Mayagüez Mayor José Guillermo Rodríguez. The expressway from Mayagüez to Aguadilla (PR-2) is officially named after him. He and Don Luis Ferré were the top pro-statehood leaders from 1940, after Martínez Nadal's death, until the 1968 NPP victory---known both as "el hombre" and "el líder". He is the youngest Speaker in history. He founded Westernbank, currently the third largest in PR and the only one hneadquartered in "la isla", that is, outside of the San Juan metro area.

While I agree with your other rv's, I suggest you revisit these two.Pr4ever (talk) 01:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for considering my comments re Tristani and García Méndez. The previous comment in my talk page was the result of some minor edits I did in the Puerto Rico page which I immediately explained in the discussion page.  My subsequent response was as follows:


 * The only edits I made, accompanied by an explanation in the discussion page, were the following:


 * 1-I added the word "partially" to the existing phrase "self-governing". The article itself notes that Puerto Rico is not fully self-governing. For example, it recognizes that PR's head of state is the President, yet voters in Puerto Rico don't participate in his (or her) election. While the Congressional legislation in 1947 and 1950-52 added important self-government powers to Puerto Ricans, it is not yet fully self-governing. That is why the PDP, the NPP and the PIP all seek additional governing powers, either through the "enhancement" of the current status, statehood or independence. This is not a POV but undisputed facts.


 * 2-I added the word "organized" to the existing phrase "unincorporated territory". Under US constitutional law, as noted by the 2005 White House report cited in the article, territories are classified as "incorporated" or "unincorporated" and as "organized" or "unorganized". Puerto Rico, according to the Insulas Cases, remains "unincorporated" (and once again all 3 parties are in agreement on this undisputed fact) and, with the approval of the Organic (as in organized) Acts of 1900 and 1917, the Elective Governor Act of 1947 and the 1950-52 legislation culminating in the promulgation of the PR Constitution on July 25, 1952 is undisputably "organized".


 * 3-I modified the population density ranking from "21st" (compared to what?) to "2nd", after New Jersey, by mistake. Puerto Rico is actually third, behind DC and NJ. Indisputably under US sovereignty, PR population density should be ranked in comparison to other US jurisdictions.


 * 4-I modified the date of the last Population Census from "2006" to "2000". The last decennial census was in 2000, which should not be confused with less accurate population estimates or projections made by the Census Bureau on not entirely reliable Puerto Rico Planning Board data. Once again, the 2000 Census is a fact.


 * With respect to "Government type", it should not be mentioned as commonwealth or territory but as "republican", because that is the government structure in PR---a three-branch presidential system. Territories of different nations can have republican, parliamentary, monarchical, etc. types of governments. Commonwealths likewise can describe a parliamentary, monarchical or republican system. The best word to describe the government type in PR is "republican".


 * In summary, the changes I made are not the product of a particular point of view but the reflection of fact.


 * A revision of my contributions will reveal that I have written objectively about numerous figures in and out of Puerto Rico with different ideological leanings, always attempting to base them on facts and not any particular POV in keeping with wiki policies.


 * I request that any objection to my writings be substantiated at least to the same extent and with the same respect that I attempt to substantiate them in the edit summary and the discussion page and the level of respect that I always accord other wiki contributors who devote time and effort to the success of this successful attempt to expand knowledge about people, things and events we all care about.Pr4ever (talk) 04:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for considering my appeal.

Regarding the visit of the Senate President, that's one of many honors that you are entitled to for the great work you do!Pr4ever (talk) 04:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for adding don Miguel Angel García Méndez and Gloria Tristani!Pr4ever (talk) 02:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Did the Senate President's visit take place? How was it?Pr4ever (talk) 03:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome aboard
Tony,

Thanks for the welcome aboard. I'm a retired Marine living in KY. I have a 74-acre farm and write for our local newspaper. I happen to know what awards PFC Arroyo rated because I was his CO in Mogadishu when he was killed...seems like a million years ago.

Let me know if you are looking for help on any particular projects, it makes me look busy at work...

Semper Fi,

Michael Broihier Usmcfarmer (talk) 14:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

2nd Battalion 9th Marines
Outstanding article, I enjoyed reading ever bit of it. It is exactly what I would expect from our United States Marines. I made a few tiny fixes to the article, but otherwise it looks outstanding. Semper Fi, TomStar81 (Talk) 07:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Category question
Tony, I just came across Category:Puerto Rican Marines and I really think it is not a good idea. I know where it comes out of but it really is a bad precedent and rubs me wrong in many ways. Does this lead to follow on categories for Black, Irish or German Marines? There is also the point that while we all have heritages that we are proud of when the uniform went on we were green and the Marine Corps never broke itself out any other way. I am not going to do anything until I at least got your feelings on it. Hope all is well otherwise and that you had a good Thanksgiving.--Looper5920 (talk) 17:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Lila Mayoral
Thanks for the suggestion. Will do. Look forward to the pictures.Pr4ever (talk) 08:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Marcelino Serna
Replying your query about Marcelino Serna: I believe the "Italian Medal of Merit" you described is the Croce al Merito di Guerra (War Merit Cross), which, like its French and Belgian equivalents the Croix de Guerre, were awarded rather liberally to Allied personnel who served in their territories during World War I. Milesli (talk) 11:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!
So that's what the meeting was all about! Any pictures? Honor a quien honor merece!Pr4ever (talk) 06:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

grats
Congrats on the Senate resolution! Semper, &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  06:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Just saw your note on Jimbo's talk page; I think it's great that you got some real-world acknowledgment for your fantastic contributions. I know I don't need to tell you, but keep up the good work. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!! I never thought the Senate would pass a resolution like that! But your contributions to the military history of Puerto Rico is spectacular. You have single-handedly made the best collection of free material on that subject on the web. The resolution was just a reminder of the appreciation for your work. Keep it up! We need more articles! - Mtmelendez (Talk) 10:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: the senate
Tony, that's amazing! It's a fantastic life you lead! Congratulations. I'm sure your family are overjoyed. SGGH speak! 11:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Greetings from Blighty
Hi Tony we have no medal of honour in England - so he can't have been awarded that from us! I don't know what the answer to your question is - but I'll see if I can find out for you. Hope you're keeping well. I have not been so active of late, as I have recently merged my business and have been working a lot on that - see Our website. I hope you're keeping well. All the best - your English buddy  Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere!  (Whisper...) 13:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
Epa, Tony, I saw your message on Raul's talk page; mil felicidades, que lo mereces !! Does that mean you're "notable" now? :-) If you have a link, please send it on.  Saludos mas cordiales, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Weird, I just saw your news on my own talk page; how strange my new message indicator didn't come up. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Goodness, if they ever sprung a surprise like that on a woman, seria pa'matarlos! No woman wants to be photographed on an important event without knowing in advance, for the trip to the peluqeria!!  I'm sorry your family couldn't be there, but what a nice surprise :-)  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 21:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Honor
Thank you for letting me know. That is a wonderful honor. It certainly shows you never can tell where rewards will come from -- if you remember some of the dark days on FA and GA pages! Good is always appreciated somewhere. You deserve the recognition. Sincerely, Mattisse  17:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Wow that's really amazing and wonderful! Congrats!--Jimbo Wales (talk) 00:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I second that emotion, my friend. Well deserved.  Very well deserved.  You have done your community proud and right.  And ours.  -- David  Shankbone  01:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done, well done.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 01:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, congratulations! -Ravedave 02:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

A great page to your dedication to writing. Let this be a reminder to all users of the great work you do here, and how invaluable you really are to the project. Enhorabuena! - Mtmelendez (Talk) 12:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Tony. That's a great honour - and quite deserved. Guettarda 14:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats. You are amazing, and it is nice the world recognizes it. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 15:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You'd think they could have put a barnstar or something on the citation. Noobs. :-P ➪ Hi DrNick ! 18:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations and well done!  &#0149;Jim 62 sch&#0149;  21:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I would also like to give me deepest congratulations to you, well done. Quite a great accomplishment. Dureo 08:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Tony, I'm so glad to see your work here recognized in such a fine way. Congratulations! Maralia 16:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Senate
Hey Tony, its cool how life pays back for the hard work that one puts on certain things, you certainly deserve the honor. My hard drive got fried on thanksgiving week and it had to be replaced so it may take sometime for me to program my PC, but I'm back in the road and my focus is on taking a article that deals with a great Puerto Rican figure to FA before Christmas, cheers. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  22:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Contact
Hi Tony. Sandy Ordonez, the chief press spokesperson at the Foundation, would like to talk with you about your recent commendation. You can contact her at her email addres: sordonez (at) wikimedia.org Raul654 02:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow!
Damn, Tony, that's the most amazing news!! It absolutely made my day to read it! And mate, I have to say, if someone had told me this story but not the name of the Wikipedian involved, I would have guessed you, because in the few years I've been here I've never known anyone who was as completely dedicated to the endless cycle of "learning and teaching and learning and teaching" about his field of expertise. Congratulations!!! --Stormie 05:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Thinking out loud
You know, Tony, that image of yours with the resolution on your user page meets the minimum requirements for a shot at Featured Picture status should you decide to nominate it. It is, as you have pointed out, probably the 1st time that a government recognizes Wikipedia and its contributers for anything good. Just something to think about :-) TomStar81 (Talk) 10:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed; life is what happens while we make other plans. I will look into the nomination after finals; right now they are the mountains I must climb. Take care, Tony; I will see you in a few days time. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Great pics! How did it feel to be there? BTW, you may want to share these images with the Signpost. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 23:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This comment above was about the Senate pics. But I just realized you sent me that link to the press releases sub-page 2 days ago. Sorry! - Mtmelendez (Talk) 23:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Award
How cool is that? Well done - I am honoured to be your friend! Can you let me have a translation of the citation as I would be interested to read it!  Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere!  (Whisper...) 16:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your legislative honors
I saw you were mentioned in the Puerto Rican legislation for your honors and work. Congratulations! Chris 14:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well. :) --Golbez 20:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, from me as well. (thought I already had congratulated you). Well done, you truly deserve it. Woodym555 21:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Likewise :) well done, mate! Anthøny  22:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Pile on congrats as well. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 22:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

The scan of the Senate resolution
Let me congraulate you for the achievement. However, there is a problem with the scanned image of the reusliton - it might be a copy-vio.

Because it is a scanned image, there is no new copyright created. Thus, the copyright resides within the Sente itself which might restrict its use in Wikipedia. (Such government document might be copyrighted.) SYSS Mouse 19:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Reply: Copyright in this case depends on who created the document (i.e. the government). The Senate giving you a copy of the resolution is only a form of gesture and no implication of copyright is applied here. On whether it can be post here, it is up to them. The bottom line is that it is definitely not GFDL.
 * IMHO, the scan of the doucment is not really necessary here - the document is posted online and a link is more than enoguh. (See ). SYSS Mouse 20:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Isn't a US government doc PD? Guettarda (talk) 22:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Only applies to federal government. State and territories might be different. SYSS Mouse (talk) 21:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Might be? You haven't checked?  Guettarda (talk) 21:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it is dependent on policy of each state. SYSS Mouse (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that this discussion can be considered ended since the maximum authority of the Puerto Rican Senate, the President of the Puerto Rican the Honorable Kenneth McClintock, has expressed himself and cleared of any doubts to the situation in his message to me below. Thank You Tony the Marine (talk) 22:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I am the owner of the original, sealed and all and not the of a copy, so there isn't any copyright infringement. The uploaded copy is of the original. Since Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States, I believe that it's documents are public and also fall under the free documentations which United States documents fall under. However, since as stated I own the original I assume full responsiblity. I just want to share this accomplishemnt with the community, since I believe that it my be the first time that one of its own has been honored by the government. Tony the Marine 20:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

A Wikipedia user called my attention this evening to the controversy regarding the copyright of (1) the text of a Puerto Rico Senate Resolution, and (2) the presentation copy of a resolution which the Senate gives to a citizen, in this case, Mr. Tony Santiago, and how to post this clarification. As is the case with all public documents in all states and territories of the United States, the text of S. Res. 3602, as well as the signed and sealed presentation copy of the resolution which three other senators and I placed in the hands of a very surprised Mr. Santiago in Phoenix last week are free to be duplicated in Wikipedia or any other media (although I'd appreciate you don't reproduce my signature on a bank check with my account number on it!) since they are public documents, produced at taxpayer expense, and intended for wide dissemination. Mr. Santiago or any of his admirers are free to use the images of these official documents at will. I reiterate my admiration and respect for Mr. Santiago's work on behalf of Puerto Rico's veterans and military heroes. Kenneth D. McClintock, President of the Senate of Puerto Rico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.50.30.165 (talk) 03:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Humbert Roque Versace GA sweep (on hold)
I have reassessed this article as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. We are currently revisiting all listed Good articles in an effort to ensure that they continue to meet the Good article criteria.

In reviewing the article, I came across some minor issues that may need to be addressed; I have left a detailed summary on the article's talk page. As a result I have put Humbert Roque Versace's GA status on hold. This will remain in place for a week or so before a final decision is taken as to the article's status.

I've left this notice here because, from the article history, you have been a significant contributor. If you no longer edit this article, please accept my apologies and feel free to disregard this message ;)

Regards, EyeSerene TALK 14:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you once again for your willingness to jump in at short notice and address the points raised by a review you hadn't requested - it is much appreciated... and this should be the last of these for a while as I've now come the the end of the 'Military people' GA section I've been sweeping.
 * I've just checked back on the article, and there are still a couple of citations needed (one is for a new paragraph that has only just been added). Both are at the end of the article - I've tagged them for your convenience.
 * Regards, EyeSerene TALK 18:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't seen the connection between the image and the text (not speaking Spanish doesn't help!), but I think with your explicit footnote that's more than sufficient. I'll head over and pass the article now. I'd also like to add that it's been a pleasure reviewing your work, and, as one ex-soldier to another, a pleasure meeting you as well. All the best, EyeSerene TALK 19:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)