User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 39

Tony!
Long time, no hear. I'm aware that your country is celebrating a very important day today... so I just thought I would take a moment to wish you a very happy July 4. I hope you are doing well and staying out of trouble. Be good, and whatever you're having, have one for me too. Regards, -- WikHead (talk) 03:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Always a pleasure to hear from you too! Other than Wikipedia Tony, I really haven't been up to too much... but I've recently learned that I'll be a grandfather in March, so I'm sure my schedule is soon about to get a whole lot more exciting. Have yourself a great day Tony... and enjoy the fireworks!  -- WikHead (talk) 05:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, it is so nice to hear from you. Yes, in the United States July 4th is celebrated as Independence Day. The pre-United States was a colony of England and did not have any representation in the English courts. The members of the continental independence movement fought with the aide of France and Spain and won. It is ironic that the United States celebrates it's independence when it has denied it's colony Puerto Rico its God given right to its own independence. The independence factions in the island fought for this right in 1950, but unlike the continentals of America, they had no one to back them up and were crushed. As Abraham Lincoln, the 16th President of the United States, once said: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."

Take care, Tony the Marine (talk) 06:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It would seem to me that you knew that slice of history right off the top of your head, without having to look it up... and I must say that I'm always impressed when I see someone who is so in-tune with their history like that. I'm rather interested in certain eras of history myself, but tend to be the guy who always has to hit the books to refresh my memory and collect the facts before the discussion begins.
 * (as well) - Thank you kindly for the Facebook invitation. As nearly all my online activity takes place within my employer's network (that blocks or filters certain websites), I've never got around to creating a Facebook account... but with my first grandchild on the way, it's probably something I should soon look into for the sake of sharing the experience with my extended family and friends afar. I will make certain to look you up when I finally get around to setting that up. Stay cool Tony... enjoy your day, and don't be taking any wooden nickels.  -- WikHead (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Agueybana
Hello Tony, I know you are good in military history. Can I ask a favor? Please check out Agüeybaná II and Agüeybaná an their associated talk pages and let me know if I missed anything please. I recently work a lot on these articles and I know you contributed a lot to them. Thank you, Mercy11 (talk) 15:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Article Merge: Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico and Puerto Rican Drug War
DONE!!!

You may now delete Puerto Rican Drug War as discussed. I have merged everything into Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico, as discussed.

Thank you,

Mercy11 (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wall of Honor
Wow Tony! This has got to be one of the kindest gestures, and nicest things that anyone on Wikipedia has ever said, done, and given me. I'm practically speechless and nearly have a tear in my eye over how thoughtful you are, and how proud you've just made me feel. I have plans to actually create a user-page for myself in the coming weeks, where I will most certainly be displaying my shiny new star with pride. It's certainly a great honour to be on your Wall of Honor! Thank you for all your kind words, your thoughtfulness, and most importantly... for being my friend. You're certainly a great guy to know. Please feel welcome to message me any time you please, even it's just to say hi. Thanks so much, again! -- WikHead (talk) 00:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Agueybana II
RE: ,,, now there is a huge space between Arrival of Conquistadores and Taino Rebellion sections .............

Mercy11 (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Awesome
Hey man, I really like picture. I hope to go there someday. Mercy11 (talk) 13:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Agüeybaná
Hi! In reference to THIS, when you say pintuta (painting), do you mean this (your upload), or this  (my upload)? I am not clear if you wrote in dissapointment (yours) or in warning (mine). And remember either one could be kept (we can try!) in the Englsih WP via fair use. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 10:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Main Page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of the article List of Puerto Ricans Missing in Action in the Korean War know that it will be appearing as the main page featured list on July 23, 2012. You can view the TFL blurb at Today's featured list/July 23, 2012. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured list directors, or , or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  03:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

 

A total of 121 Puerto Rican soldiers were among the 8,200 people listed as missing in action during the Korean War. This total does not include people of Puerto Rican descent who were born in the mainland of the United States. It was during the Korean War that Puerto Ricans suffered the most casualties as members of an all-Hispanic volunteer unit: the 65th Infantry Regiment. One of the problems the unit faced was the language difference; the common foot soldier spoke only Spanish, while the commanding officers were mostly English-speaking. The Battle of Outpost Kelly (illustration pictured) accounted for 73 of the men missing in action from the total of 121. Out of the 73 MIAs suffered by the regiment in the month of September, 50 of them occurred on the same day: September 18. All 121 men served within the ranks of the United States Army with the sole exception of Ramón Núñez-Juárez, who served in the Marines. Their names are inscribed in El Monumento de la Recordación located in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
 * Nice. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:53, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

And the Agueybana saga continues
These 2 guys were brothers, not uncle-nephew, so I changed the 2 articles to reflect that. just fyi. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 14:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

New Cat in town
Category:Puerto Rican independence activists,,,,, I would like to see this go past the 200 mark (at 87 now). I know they are out there, we just need to keep finding them!

Hey, thanks for the Antonio Valero de Bernabé cite - I knew if the bio was about a Puerto Rican and military, you probably held the "key". At the same time I was curious if the correct translation was "from" or "of"....but now I understand the whole thing and why it has to be "from". Thanks for adding this guy whom I had never heard of.

Here is a treat for you: Los Chinos de Ponce (note: if it's hot out be sure to get plenty of napkins,,, they melt fast!!!).

Mercy11 (talk) 18:47, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Congrats
on the article List of Puerto Ricans Missing in Action in the Korean War. Also, I now have in in my watchlist. Take care, Mercy11 (talk) 16:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Morgan Earp
Your picture of the Campbell & Hatch Billiard Parlor is incorrect. I made a note on your picture. I work at 5th and Allen Streets in Tombstone and am there virtually every day. Please input the correct picture. Thanks.

Jim

Grumpyjimcanyon (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Done! Hey "Grumpy", it would be nice if you took pictures of the Historic Markers in Tombstone and uploaded them. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Masacre
Hey Tony, in reference to THIS, what are you using as a source? I have seen 2 policemen in various sources, and 1 policeman only once (besides your correction here, that is). I always had my curiosity about the TWO dead policemen count, asking myself if it was that they shot so bad that even without any opposiing fire the group of some 40 policemen would manage to kill 5% of themselves via friendly fire alone. Hey, if there were 2 dead policemen, we might assume there were, what?, 10-20 additional wounded policemen?????????????? Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Calle Victoria, a well-known and long thoroughfare in Ponce, is name after him... Mercy11 (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This guy >>>>(Sunny A. Cabrera Salcedo. Hacia un Estudio Integral de la Toponimia del Municipio de Ponce, Puerto Rico. Ph. D. dissertation. University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Graduate School. Department of Spanish and Portuguese. May 1999.)<<<< would know. This is how he got his PhD.


 * In any event, I doubt it was named after V-day, because I believe Teatro Victoria (it's located at Victoria esq. Union) was already there before V-day. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

LongHorn Restaurant photo
Hi Tony,

It turns out that the photo you added to the LongHorn Steakhouse article is of an establishment with a similar name but is not part of the chain. I've removed it (with regret.) It's a great photo; maybe you'd like to author an article on the restaurant?

Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 03:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Yajaira Sierra-Sastre
"Sin palabras"

Mercy11 (talk) 13:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Gracias! One of my degrees is in chemistry so it figures I might know a bit about that stuff. It's always a pleasure to work with you! Take care, Mercy11 (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Attention
Was wandering if I could have your opinion on the following. This editor HERE has been bickering on issues related to the Puerto Rican independence movement article. Without entering into the merits of his claims -- which at this point is not the issue here -- I am doubtful of his sincerity and intentions. I say this because according to the records HERE, he has been editing for only 2 days and yet he has managed to move around aspect/services of the encyclopedia (--- as shown HERE [knowledge about the POV template], HERE [knowledge of the existence of a page to make requests], HERE [knowledge about WP:ILIKEIT], and HERE [knowledge of WP:systemic bias] ---), that, at least in my case, take a good 3-6 months to have fully mastered. Even if it didn't take 3 months, his is certainly not a 2-day old expertise level. Check out his other contributions, and you will find plenty other examples that would reflect a level of expertise that is far beyond 2 days. Hey, when an editor has been around for 2 days only, he is plenty content only with being able to edit articles!

Since you are quite versed at this sort of things, I am wandering if you are thinking what I am thinking and if you think a checkuser would be appropriate here. You know, in the past, new editors have pop up that have participated in controversies, etc, that have taken a considerable amount of our time (read: they have disrupted the encyclopedia) and our effort, just to be found out later they were sockpuppets all along. Your opnion is appreciated. Mercy11 (talk) 00:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Puerto Rican independence movement
Tony,

Mercy and you presented an excellent defense of Puerto Rican independence movement. I just added another comment on the talk page, and I also thanked Mercy for the thorough and compelling defense, as well.

Nelsondenis248 (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

69.116.111.163
Hi. I saw your notes at User talk:69.116.111.163 and User talk:69.116.103.24 about the same person using multiple IPs to edit. That can be deliberately abusive but usually it's just due to the fact that IP addresses change as folks change editing locations or their ISPs reassign their modems new IPs. For all we know, he may have merely experienced a summer thunderstorm and gotten a new IP when his modem re-powered.

His edits don't look vandalistic. Maybe he doesn't fully understand the way we do things.

In any event, thanks for keeping an eye on our articles. --A. B. (talk • contribs) 00:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The situation in particular is that this user has continuned to post the same cats. on the Rick Aviles article, dispite the fact that he/she has been told not to because they do not apply to the subject. This is not new, the user has been doing this for a long time therefore he/she is not a newbe. If users who are registered use multiple accounts and are blocked for violating our sockpuppet policies, then the same rule should apply to IP users who do the same, no exceptions. None the less, I left an explanation to the user in the articles talk page. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * In my experience over 90% of vandals use anonymonus IPs. Someone ought to start up a RFC on whether Wikipedia should continue to allow editing by anonymous users. I realize this represents a policy change, and also realize the subject has probably been brought up before. But, hey, every other website on Earth requires you be a registered user to edit, why not Wikipedia? And the answer cannot be the "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit" slogan because claim would still be true if editors had to register (read: the two concepts are not mutually exclusive).


 * Fact is, (1) a significant amount of us ("legit editors") time is taken up going into the Watchlist to clean up after vandals, (2) a fair portion of disrupotive editors are anonymous IPs, (3) a good part of our quality Wikipedia time is spent dealing with anonymous IP editors in a fashion that I feel is unfair to the registered editor, that is, anonymous IP users, having less of a "reputation" to preserve are generally more prone to acts of uncivility and abuse that we registered users have to put up with, (4) most sock-puppeteers are, I believe, anonymous IPs, (5) as shared IPs, anonymous IPs get a lesser "sentence" when blocked than registered users, resulting in an unfair penalty to registered users when get in trouble for violation policies (3RRs, etc) -- this goes against reason/common sense, and (6)[my suspicion is that] even legit editors will, though probably rarely, will, intentionally, edit from an anonymous IP when they really want to make a change but don't want to tarnish their "reputation" by being confrontational. Ok, I am not an expert at initiating, moderating, etc., RFC's. Maybe someone that agrees with this can fire it up. Mercy11 (talk) 03:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

¡Hola Tony!
I am always remembering you for your guidance and encouragement given to wiki users. Semper fidelis. MusiCitizen (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Venegas
Keep an eye on THIS guy - he may be our next Venegas, except maybe Silver or Gold!!! Mercy11 (talk) 19:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Help with AfD Elliott Castro
Help please: Elliott Castro. Ahnoneemoos (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Mrmatiko ius right, there are some minor issues with the stub. I did some minor stuff related to the format which I think will help for now. I suggest that you expand the article a little more and post some extra sources. The important question that we must ask ourselves is, is he truly notable or is he "one amongst many"? I see that he has contirbuted many sports related articles for "Claridad". You many want to create a "section" titled "Sports articles by Castro" in the article and cite where they are written in Claridad as the reference sources. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Sports in Puerto Rico
Tony, I am really not that well versed in sports (remember science /chemistry is my forte). I do well in cultural issues, but when it comes to sports I am hard pressed to do justice even to Ponceños. If I come across the type of info you'd like, I will happily add it to the Sports in Puerto Rico article. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 00:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)


 * You know I don't like to say no, so here is something I can proffer for now: and . You may already have these; if not, I hope this helps. Mercy11 (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

FREE
Hi. You may want to sign up for these, if you haven't already:

THIS, THIS and THIS

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

9/11
You must have a respectable library at your disposal!!,,, sometimes I wonder how the heck and where the heck you get all this info from! Also,...I wonder if this guy's parents and my grandparents ever crossed paths in the Yauco mountains. Regards. Mercy11 (talk) 03:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Seriously?
Gang leader too???? Awesome!!! Maybe you know my buddy Nicky Cruz!!! Mercy11 (talk)

Marine
I am not sure why THIS edit - the quoted cite specifically and unequivocally states "The most decorated soldier of the Vietnam War" (ignoring the War reference which was clearly a typo). Could you explain please?

With the exception of one citation (THIS ONE by the Vietnam Veterans of America at http://www.vva.org/archive/TheVeteran/2001_01/memnotes.htm which calls him “the most decorated PUERTO RICAN veteran”), all the other 3 citations (#1 Puerto Rico Daily Sun at http://www.prdailysun.com/index.php?page=news.article&id=1321065604 [“Vietnam War...Otero Barreto was the most decorated U.S. military officer during that war.”], #2 Major General Orlando Llenza at http://www.prstatehood.com/news/llenza_1108.pdf [“the most decorated soldier of the Vietnam War”] and #3 Latino Alliance at http://www.latinoalliance.net/profiles-in-courage.html [“the most decorated US military member of the war in Vietnam.”]) also state in one fashion or another that Otero is the most highly decorated U.S. soldier in Vietnam.

These are sources by the news media, two peer groups, and one community advocacy group...a well-rounded mix of sources. In that case, clearly, they could not all be wrong...

The U.S. military is apparently not in the business of bestowing "most decorated soldier" awards. If it did, it would be easy to support the "most decorated" this and that. Nevertheless, we can still go by what is documented outside the U.S. military.

The quote was also consistent with the other 2 references related to this subject in the article (#1 "the most decorated U.S. soldier of the Vietnam War" (lead section) and #2 "The most decorated U.S. soldier of the Vietnam War" infobox) prior to your edit. What citation are you using for the change?

As it appears you may have missed the references that were provided, I have corrected your edit to remove the "Puerto Rican" qualifier which is not found in the reference cited. Any questions, let me know.

Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Otero
I dont have the expertise in military history you have, so I am coming for advise/help in that area. From graduating at United States Army Air Assault School, then seems Otero was a member so the 181st airborn division. As such, I have added him to the list of notable members HERE. If this is incorrect, please feel free to remove or edit as needed. If not a member of that division, then which one? and as a notable member of what division should he be added to? In any event, the article about him should probably state that sort of information, as well as his unit information. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 22:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Based on the text and description HERE, it seems to me Otero was also awarded THIS medal.

TEXT: "The Vietnam Service Medal is presented to any service member who served on temporary duty for more than 30 consecutive days, or 60 non-consecutive days, attached to or regularly serving for one, or more, days with an organization participating in or directly supporting ground (military) operations or attached to or regularly serving for one, or more, days aboard a naval vessel directly supporting military operations in the Republic of Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos within the defined combat zone (DoD 1348 C6.6.1.1.5. revised September 1996) between the dates of 15 November 1961 to 28 March 1973, and from 29 April 1975 to 30 April 1975."

¿Comments???? Mercy11 (talk) 01:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I think I have almost enough info
to answer the question at Commons. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 22:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hola!
Good to see you still fighting over here. Just got mailed to the old e-mail, which to be honest freaked me out, since that one has been unused for a while after being hit with spyware spam. I will send you the new e-mail this week (it's the same one that was updated a couple of months in my FaceBook account). However, I may stick for a few weeks to attend the Clemente GAR, if that is still open, then will most likely return in Thanksgiving week and remain here until January. The "Military branches in Puerto Rico" article has been siting half-way done in a CD ROM for a while, since I got a new PC three months ago, that should be done by the holidays.-  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  02:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * ???? I think that this is my first sarcastic barnstar (smile). Anthony Romeo Santos's name was removed from the "list" because the simple rules of inclussion were not followed. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Sports in Puerto Rico
Tony,

Sports in Puerto Rico looks great! Also, I added a couple of New York Times cites to Casals Festival.

That is a beautiful barnstar you sent me! Aesthetically and emotionally, a real jewel. Thank you.

Nelsondenis248 (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

RE: AWARD
Didnt want you to think I had overlooked or forgotton about your Award to me- Thank You!! Was just waiting for after the Otero discussion had completed in case I had some additional thoughts, which I do but, IAE, thanks for now! Mercy11 (talk) 21:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

John Rivas page
Saludos Tony:

First of all nice to meet you, its an honor.

Thanks, I wanted to make the infobox, but didn't know how to.

Also, Thanks for creating John Rivas page. I am his assistant and I am updating his page. He told me to ask you your mailing address, so he can send you BONZZO's Second Pictorial Cancellation Memorabilia (from May 10, 2012) with BONZZO's Comemorative Stamp by mail, and if you are on Facebook, please let me know, so he can add you to his friends.

Last, I wanted to place pictures, but I am not sure how to, I tried to place an image of his, that's also on his Facebook page (but we have the original and he's the owner of the image), but it didn't upload. Could you please help me with these? I don't know how to.

Thanks --GenovevaT (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

All that I can say is THANKS!!!, for all your help. --GenovevaT (talk) 01:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Better picture
Hi. The photo of Otero displayed in the article is public domain according to, and I have seen it again in various websites with varying degrees of detail and cropping. The one in his article seems to be the most-cropped and, thus, the least-detailed of those roaming around various websites. The one most detailed (and least cropped) seems to be the one at the Brave Lords site (HERE). It shows his full name tag ("OTERO") and the two airborne patches on his upper arms. Plus the "US ARMY" tag on his shirt. All of these are missing from the photo in his article. Maybe we could upload a new version of the file. What do you think? Mercy11 (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Entiendo. Mercy11 (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ;-)  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercy11 (talk) 14:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Adding a Person
Hi Tony - i was truying to add the following person to the list of puerto ricans but not sure which categroy she comes under (dancer and academic) -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Sanchez-Colberg Ericmakesthree (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Check
You may want to check footnote #10 at the botton of page 5, HERE. This is the same author that stated that Juan Sanz from Ponce was the first one to perish in France during the WWI conflict. As I recall, back then you had shown some lack of confidence that the book/author/historian might not be an authoritative source. Just for teh record! Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 03:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No prob. Mercy11 (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Question
In the table titled "Puerto Rican population in U.S.", at article Puerto Rican migration to New York, what is the meaning of the "Percentage" column: the percentage of the population of the state in question that is Puerto Rican (for example, "5.5 of the population of New York is Puerto Rican") or the percentage of the total Puerto Rican population in the U.S. that resides in the state in question (for example, "5.5 of the Puerto Rican population in the mainland resides in New York")? It is not clear which one it refers to. Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 03:59, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If the figures are all accurate (no human errors), it should be possible to figure out which one of the two possible cases it refers to (conceivably, it may also refer to a third case yet which has not so far been apparent!). However, I personally think both sets of values (the percentage of the population of the state in question that is Puerto Rican AND the percentage of the total Puerto Rican population in the U.S. that resides in the state in question) would be useful, beneficial, and important. I will work shortly in the first part of the enigma and will be in touch. Mercy11 (talk) 17:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * FINDINGS: The percentage column represents the part of the population of the state in question that is Puerto Rican. Thus, for example, "5.5 of the population of New York is Puerto Rican."

We can find the percentage of the total Puerto Rican population in the U.S. that resides in the state in question (since, for New York, for example, 5.5 IS NOT that percentage of the total Puerto Rican population in the U.S. that resides in New York.) That percentage (for New York) is 23.15%. That is, 23.15% of the Puerto Rican population in the U.S. resides in NY state. And I figured it out for all the states and DC. To do this, I took the number of Puerto Ricans in, for example New York, and divided it by the total Puerto Rican population in the U.S. (Thus 1,070,558 divided by 4,623,716 yields 23.15%) {You also have to multiply it by 100 since these are percentages).

In any event, the entire table is as follows:

Percentage of U.S. Puerto Ricans that reside in each state relative to the Puerto Rican population in the United States as a whole.

One of the interesting facts that this table yields is that, while CT is the state (this can be seen in the original table) with the largest percentage of Puerto Ricans relative to the overall population of the state (That is, you are more likely to bump into a Puerto Rican in CT than in NY), New York continues to have the largest total body count of Puerto Ricans of any state.

What do I suggest we do? Well... first we have to clarify what we mean by "percentage" in the existing table (I have done that already). Second, we could include this second table, for it does have meaningful information, but I have a concern that it may be WP:OR, so better keep it out. What do you think?

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 04:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, and thanks for the response. However, on what basis (which exact WP policy/policy interpretation) could we argue the above table is NOT WP:OR). Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 15:18, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Done! Added table to the article Puerto Ricans in the United States. It seems most pertinent there.Mercy11 (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

List of Tainos article
hello Tony, I've updated/ Contributed to the list of Tainos, whenever you have a chance swing by. kind regards danny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tainy (talk • contribs) 11:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Mercy, you and Tainy (who forgot to sign his name) did great jobs in your respective areas. Thank you Tony the Marine (talk) 19:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

RE: Did you know?
I have always said to (white/Anglo-Saxon) Americans that a Puerto Rican (Juan Ponce de Leon) discovered North America (aka, the USA). After I explain, they all realize how distorted and politiziced was their HS American history class! Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 14:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your service
Tony,

On this Veteran's Day, I take this opportunity to thank you for your service to the U.S.A.  Semper Fi ...

&mdash; 15:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Happy Veterans Day
Wishing you a weel-deserved happy veterans day! Mercy11 (talk) 04:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Marine
Thank you, Im glad that you share my interest in forgotten about history. When I was making changes, I noticed that you were using the "location" section of the military conflict box as more of a way to provide links for the engagements/theaters of operations as opposed to actual places, so I came up with a way to do that on the standard info box. It looks fine on the Native Americans and World War II article, but on the others (Hispanics and Puerto Ricans) theres a large blank white space to the right of the links. I dont know, maybe you can do something about it. Maybe a picture can be added in there, but I wouldnt know how to do that. Feel free to play around with it. You might also be able to add a date section, but I havent tried it. Thanks again--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 06:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello, I just got your message and I would be more than happy to. I was unaware that those articles existed, so I also look forward to reading them. --$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 01:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Ive just added the "engagements " sections. I wanted to let you know that while Im not sure that any Puerto Ricans served in the Pacific during World War I, I wouldnt doubt that there was at least one Puerto Rican person who did. As for Vietnam, I dont know much about that war compared to other conflicts in American history (just too much BS [politics] for my tastes), so I have just added the three basic theaters/campaigns (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia), so, if you can, please add additional links, and the same goes for World War I. Thanks again--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 01:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Your Senate Resolution
I was trying to update your user page but it's protected. I wanted to add a box in the top stating you were the first Wikipedian to be recognized by a legislative body for its contribution to Wikipedia. I also wanted to add a citation to the document itself&mdash;it's in Microsoft Word format but I converted it to PDF and uploaded it on sendspace for your convenience. Enjoy! &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 16:14, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Just add the following at the very top of your user page:




 * &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you Ahnoneemoos, it looks great. I won't post it yet, because as I stated, there are some Wikipedians who will come to the conclusion that I am showing-off. Once again thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Secretaries of State of Puerto Rico
Hola Tony, I see you are active in the discussions about the First Ladies/Secretaries of State of Puerto Rico, so I figured I would seek your review of what I did here: Clearly the uppercase title would be the proper name, however I abhor moving pages while a merge or deletion discussion is taking place, it just opens up room for error, and multiple discussions taking place on different talk pages. What I did was decline the speedy on the upper case title, and copy the tags from the lowercase title to the uppercase title (the uppercase title talk page is where the discussion is taking place). Lowercase title and talk page redirect to uppercase talk page. Uppercase talk page has the correct edit history. I think I have covered all basis, but would appreciate a second set of eyes to review the process. The only thing that appears to be missing is a merge from tag on Secretary of State of Puerto Rico. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 12:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * List of secretaries of State of Puerto Rico was tagged for merge
 * List of Secretaries of State of Puerto Rico was a carbon copy of it (minus the tags) and was tagged for speedy deletion to make way for a page move from the lowercase title.

RE: Pavo
I had a good day, thanks, and hope you did too. As for Macho, he was featured in the NBC Nightly News with Peter Jennings tonight (11/23/12), as was the violence in PR. Hey, it seems PR is finally reaching the heights of violence that NYC, Hawaii, Miami and San Francisco had in years passed and, who knows?...Maybe PR will become as infamous as those other 4 and "achieve" its own NYPD, Hawaii 5-"O", "Miami Vice" or "The Streets of San Francisco" TV series... If there was a contest for a TV series title, I would title suggest "Puerto Rican Macana-Time! take care, Mercy11 (talk) 03:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Public domain of works created by the government of Puerto Rico
Tony, there's an ongoing discussion at WP:MCQ regarding the public domain of works created by the government of Puerto Rico. I need your help and your contacts to clarify this once and for all. Please get involved in the discussion. This is self-evident in Puerto Rico but we can't find the statute, law, or code that establishes so. &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Pellín Rodriguez Wikipedia page
Tony:

As you will notice, I have contributed a lot of verifiable information to Rodríguez page and would like to commend you for your latest revision. I fully agree on your comment "Where is it going to stop?" on the Pellín Rodriguez Wikipedia page. If I knew the actual age of his grand kids, I would even delete the ones born after Rodríguez passing since they did not "survive" Rodríguez passing and do not provide any relevant information on Rodríguez life or career. Although I do not have verifiable information on their ages, I am almost certain that all of the grand kids were born after Rodríguez passing.

SALUDos, José — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enpdllp (talk • contribs) 08:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Jose. Tony the Marine (talk) 09:25, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Jorge N. Amely Vélez
The article is well thought out, quite comprehensive and complete, and has the proper external links. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 19:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed the content and added references.

Regards.

--Tainy (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad
I want to wish everyone a "Feliz Navidad", especially the 117 editors who have my User Page in their "watchlist". . Tony the Marine


 * Tony: Feliz Navidad to you too. Thanks for the Digital X-mas Card.--GenovevaT (talk) 23:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Check it out
http://www.periodicolaperla.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4526:imitos-inunca-mas-tainos-bravos-habia-mas-de-uno&catid=119:articulos&Itemid=342

Mercy11 (talk) 14:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * PART TWO:
 * http://www.periodicolaperla.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4540:del-mito-al-hito-conozca-la-brava-defensa-de-los-tainos&catid=119:articulos&Itemid=342


 * Mercy11 (talk) 18:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * "Nuestra investigación de décadas nos permite exponer la falacia de la tesis de la conquista breve y fácil de nuestra isla, de la mentira de la muerte anticlimática del Cacique Mayor en los primeros combates y de la ficción de la rendición inevitable, entre otras falsedades arrastradas por siglos; falsedades que subyacen bajo la eterna acusación de nuestra incapacidad como pueblo de defendernos a nosotros mismos. Igualmente nos permite exponer la dinámica de los procesos económicos, políticos y militares que dieron base a los eventos y, al final, recuperar una simbología heroica que nos pertenece." ("Agüeybaná El Bravo" by Jalil Sued Badillo. http://www.amazon.com/Ag%C3%BCeyban%C3%A1-Bravo-Jalil-Sued-Badillo/dp/1934461180)
 * Mercy11 (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Last article
Thank you for writing that article. I had wondered what her background etc was and it is great to know wikipedia has someone with great research skills (you) to help in that area. Hope you are well. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 10:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Victoria Leigh Soto
Tony, what the hell is going on at Victoria Leigh Soto? The article is nominated for deletion at 0500 and then rushingly redirected by 1750 hours. This is insane. That's not how AfD work. I have reverted the redirect per WP:IAR, WP:POLL, WP:VOTE, WP:NOTADEMOCRACY, and precedents such as Rachel Scott and William David Sanders. Is there any chance that another administrator (not you) locks the article? This article obviously deserves its own place per WP:NOTPAPER. &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree another administrator should look into this "suspicious" speedy deletion and re-direct When I woke up this morning, I was surprised to see that the someone nominated it to be deleted and that it was redirected. Look at the lame excuses: Articles for deletion/Victoria Leigh Soto. Since there is nothing that can be done at the moment, I decided to re-post it in my "Workshop 3"  until Soto receives some recognitions such as the naming of a school, street or something. Here you have a beautiful Latina saving the lives of children from all races who is murdered by a coward. Her actions were above and beyond of what is expected. Had she been a soldier, she would have been awarded the Medal of Honor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marine 69-71 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 22 December 2012‎

Deletion review for Victoria Leigh Soto
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Victoria Leigh Soto. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 16:47, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rhoads
Tony, I hope you are well, Merry Christmas. It has been many years since we interacted on Wikipedia, but I did come across you on Cornelius Rhoads. I spent several years finishing my degree at Carnegie Mellon and I am now a software engineer working in New York. I am sure it is a very exciting time to be a historian of Puerto Rico and congratulations on your success. While I was at CMU I had the opportunity to study with the great Dr. Acker and I have a 30 page manuscript about the Rhoads scandal and some interesting leads. Unfortunately because my research uses primary sources, I can't cite it directly in the article.

Rhoads did not explicitly mention the hospital in his letter, and he had performed one research study outside of the hospital which the investigation did not examine. Earlier in 1931, Castle approached Payne about funding a parallel research project he wished to undertake in conjunction with Dr. Donald H. Cook of the Department of Chemistry of the University of Puerto Rico’s School of Tropical Medicine, and a Puerto Rican social worker, Celia Núñez. The research would take place "in the field," primarily at Núñez’ home, in Cidra. Although at first Payne was enthusiastic about the idea, he decided to reject funding the Cidra study. Payne explained he had rejected Castle’s request for funding for a number of reasons: it was not approved by the Puerto Rican commissioner of education, the supervision would have been inadequate, facilities were not available for adequate measurements, there was not a proper definition of the relationship to the other institution under which the studies were started (the University), and he considered it "premature." Castle considered his arguments invalid, and proceeded anyway, using Harvard money to fund the research and keeping Núñez on a volunteer basis, later returning to ask for Rockefeller funding once again. "In spite of my disapproval and without my knowledge, Dr. Castle entered upon the experiment...," Payne wrote, "He argues that the support should now come from the Rockefeller Foundation, since it would be unethical [otherwise].... In my opinion, the unethical act was performed when he began the work." Reviewing the memorandum containing the proposal for the Cidra study reveals nothing unusual, except how closely it resembles the other anemia studies that were performed back at the hospital. Aside from the inclusion of the outside social worker, the study is very similar to many others conducted by the Foundation in Puerto Rico, except not performed on hospital patients. Why, then, did Payne insist so strongly that it was unethical? "It will be seen that the most important reason for avoiding the Cidra experiment were those affecting external relations and it is in this respect that the danger is still present," he explained cryptically.

Perhaps he referred obliquely to the Rhoads affair. Initial communications arguing repeatedly against funding the Cidra study begin in early February, as the trial of Rhoads was still in progress, so this is one possible explanation for Payne’s "still-present danger" comment. That comment also references "external relations," and certainly the Rhoads trial was the largest issue of public relations occupying everyone at the time; it is difficult to imagine that another study could attract attention in 1932 simply for methodological details. The only explicit link between the Rhoads affair and the Cidra study was that Rhoads had been visiting Núñez, ostensibly for a social engagement, when he "made a disturbance." This event was cited as the "moment of anger" that drove Rhoads to write his letter. "There are a few things about this affair which cannot be put into correspondence,” Payne wrote. Núñez also appears to have withheld some kind of information, at least according to the police officer who took her statement. "Miss. Núñez can give a more ample statement than the present one; she was willing to inform something else, but it seems that somebody insinuated to her that she abstain from extending herself with other details she knows pertaining to the doctor of reference."

If the cancer portion of the letter was purely a fantasy, it does make Rhoads’ subsequent career in cancer a strange string of coincidences, or at least reveals the deep significance that particular fantasy had for him. "Ferdie," the addressee of the first letter, was identified as Fred W. Stewart, another Rockefeller alumnus and researcher at the New York Memorial Sloan-Kettering Hospital, an institution which focuses on cancer. Rhoads would join Stewart at Sloan-Kettering and became its director in 1945. Shrugging off the scandal, Rhoads appeared in Time again in 1949, this time making the cover, under the heading "Cancer-Fighter." The article did not make mention of Rhoads’ previous appearance in the magazine. As director of the American Cancer Society between 1941 and 1945, Rhoads was instrumental in developing early chemotherapy techniques. In 1954 Rhoads described to the American College of Physicians an experiment involving grafting living cancer cells under a woman’s skin, although it was purely consensual. In 1979, the American Association for Cancer Research inaugurated the Cornelius P. Rhoads Memorial Award for promising young cancer researchers under age 40.

Perhaps you know someone who might be interested in pursuing a longer published work on this topic. There is also a good deal of research to be done. I am currently waiting for the correspondence between Rhoads and Simon Flexner from the American Philosophical Society. Andrevan@ 23:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad from Ahnoneemoos
Tony, thank you for the barnstar and Feliz Navidad and próspero año nuevo to you and your loved ones! &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 14:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Gracias from User:Tainy
Muchas gracias Tony, Feliz Navidad, que tengas un buen fin de semana. --Tainy (talk) 00:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Puerto Rico Adjutant General
Tony, I'm working on the Puerto Rico Commission on Public Protection and Safety article and noticed that there is no article on the Puerto Rico Adjutant General. Considering that you are our military historian, could you please create an article on that military/government post? It will be linked to from the Puerto Rico National Guard article and the Puerto Rico Commission on Public Protection and Safety template. &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 00:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year from the Old Guard
Happy New Year from a fellow member of the Wikipedia "Old Guard," meaning yeah, we've been editing here for what feels like forever. I hope things are going well. If you ever need any assistance from me on Wikipedia, please let me know. Best, --SouthernNights (talk) 14:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Tony, I loved that photo and bio. Thanks for letting me know. And yeah, there aren't many from the old days still around. I haven't been overly active the last two years but I'm now getting back into the swing of things. If I can ever help out, let me know. And keep on editing!--SouthernNights (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

AfD: Victoria Leigh Soto
Tony, please participate at Articles for deletion/Victoria Leigh Soto. The recent WP:DRV determined that due process was not followed and reopened the AFD. &mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Userbox
Thanks for the userbox! y Feliz Año Nuevo! Thief12 (talk) 17:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC)