User talk:Marisab6

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred Werner (American composer) (July 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jamiebuba was:

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Jamiebuba (talk) 07:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello @Jamiebuba. I find this decline to be very strange. This draft has issues but notability is clearly established by the subject’s nomination for a Tony Award for Best Conductor and Musical Director. Can you therefore please explain your reasoning? Zingarese talk  ·  contribs  (please OOUI icon userAdd-ltr.svg mention me on reply&#59; thanks!) 23:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Zingarese Can you point me to at least one reliable sourcing on the subject that was used on the page? Is it the source for the music credits that you count as reliable or could it be his website, youtube link and unreliable broadway profile link? I hope you understand my reasoning now? The award is infact a notable one as you said, it is sourced to CBS's youtube channel but i believe this article needs better sources to be in mainspace and i hope you can see that with me. Cheers Jamiebuba (talk) 06:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi all,
 * Thanks for your thoughts on my draft page. I'm new to Wikipedia editing so I appreciate the input. I believe I can find more reliable sources and will attempt to do so soon to edit the page. The issue with the In Memoriam is that Fred died after the CBS page of Tony Award "In Memoriam" names was published, but before the actual Tony Awards. They added him last minute, so the video is all I have. I can try to find something better.
 * Thanks again. Marisab6 (talk) 13:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jamiebuba as I said, his notability is clearly established by his Tony nomination. For sourcing issues, it is always better to decline for improper sourcing/lacking third-party sources (which is what I would have done in this case). Declining a submission for its subject not meeting notability guidelines when it actually does is incorrect in this case, and may discourage the submitter from rectifying the real issues. And we do not want to do that ever! Yes, many of the sources in this submission are unreliable, but the YouTube is OK because it is from a verified official account (see WP:RSPYT). @Marisab6 please read WP:RS, WP:IS, and WP:V and introduce some sources for verifiability. For instance, I have found several passing mentions in the NYT. Zingarese talk  ·  contribs  (please OOUI icon userAdd-ltr.svg mention me on reply&#59; thanks!) 19:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)