User talk:Marissa505

January 2023
Your edit to Blackdom, New Mexico has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I am new to Wikipedia. The page I was starting was a "draft" started I started at 1 a.m. and I realized I needed to get some sleep. My DRAFT was deleted. I didn't get a chance to explain my relationship to the situation and it was set for a SPEEDY deletion. (I'm surprised at the impulse to be hasty about a DRAFT.) Now with his Google Scholar page up and his first academic book on the history of Blackdom; I thought I would begin to draft his wiki-page.
 * I am the business partner of Timothy E. Nelson, Ph.D. - He is a Historian, Professor Author, Researcher, Artist and he has a Google Scholar page. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?oi=bibs&hl=en&authuser=2&cites=4995841004232615100
 * I have permission from him to establish his Wikipedia page. We have a business that manages his intellectual property. Here is our website: https://afrofrontier.com/team.
 * Magnolia677 you reverted all of my edits on the wikipedia page: Blackdom, New Mexico. He is the expert historian at this juncture on the history. The exercise was good for, and I realize that I was not following necessary protocols; however, the book summary at TTU was written by Timothy E. Nelson for them to market his first academic book on the topic. https://www.ttupress.org/9781682831755/blackdom-new-mexico/
 * There is NO infringement on the any of the edits and added information that was submitted last night. However, Dr. Nelson did mention he would be surprised if the edited remained.
 * The article that was published by the Department of Cultural Affairs was written by Timothy E. Nelson, I will contact the editor about the proper permission for the article to be added.
 * Blackdom, New Mexico's history on the page is based on research prior to Dr. Nelson's work that is recognized by Western History Association, the University of Nebraska-Lincoln - Center for Great Plains Studies and their study that included Dr. Nelson's work was used to establish the National Park Service Black Homestead section.
 * After this experience, I realize we need to hire a Wikipedia expert.
 * Also, Magnolia677, I see there are other folks complaining about the way you are deleting entries and reverting edits.
 * What makes you the expert on the history of Blackdom, New Mexico?
 * Your feedback and recommendation is appreciated.
 * Marissa Roybal Afro-Frontier Marissa505 (talk) 20:52, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello Marissa505. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Marissa505. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @Magnolia677
 * You are making so many assumptions. I am not getting compensated. I am a partner in our business. I represent his work.. You are making up the capacity of my representation of Dr. Nelson's work. I am NOT getting compensated. We are co-founders of the business that manages the out of his intellectual property. We are living on the margins as we produce his work for the community at-large. [The future looks promising; however, wikipedia is impeding on his ability to highlight his work which is the most thorough to date, and it sets the record straight on Blackdom, New Mexico. Black intellectuals of the INCORPORATED all-Black town, New Mexico where descendants still own land; operate business, and a few still reside on the land - alongside 1000's of acres are that now occupied by others. Blackdom is NOT a ghost town! Everything added deserves its place on the page; and, it trumps all research prior to his work.
 * Actually, there are some folks that have been added to the page that may have used Dr. Nelson's work without proper permission to use his work; misused, misrepresented, and may have been used for grants, that is yet to be discovered. His work deserves to be represented on the page. His first academic book is set to be published by Texas Tech University Press. If you do not know, these books do not receive an advance and a very small royalty 2x/year. Afro-Frontier Marissa505 (talk) 21:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Timothy E. Nelson, Ph.D., Historian


A tag has been placed on Draft:Timothy E. Nelson, Ph.D., Historian requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.ttupress.org/9781682831755/blackdom-new-mexico/ and https://utep.academia.edu/TimothyNelsonPhDRecognizedExpertHistorianofBlackdomNewMexico. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Paid editing

 * "After this experience, I realize we need to hire a Wikipedia expert."
 * Please read WP:PE.


 * "Also, Magnolia677, I see there are other folks complaining about the way you are deleting entries and reverting edits."
 * Wikipedia has a lot of rules and policies, and people sometimes get upset when you enforce them. If you read WP:E=N and WP:GARAGE you'll get a sense of why many people get angry on Wikipedia.


 * "What makes you the expert on the history of Blackdom, New Mexico?"
 * I've never heard of the place. I was in HooHoo once and took a picture.

I hope this helps. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * In addition:
 * A person isn't entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because they or their representatives want one. The notability criteria are used to decide what topics are deserving of inclusion. Refined criteria have been established for people in general, living persons in particular, and academics.
 * You do not own any content you submit to Wikipedia, nor do you have the right to tell other editors what subjects they can and cannot edit. Any editor acting in good faith can edit any article at any time; they do not need to be subject-matter experts.
 * For policy and legal reasons, copyrighted material is not allowed on Wikipedia, and draft articles are not exempt from this policy. Verified copyright owners may donate copyrighted text and images through an external process, but in doing so, they permanently and irrevocably grant others the right to freely copy, distribute, and/or adapt the content into derivative works, even for commercial purposes.
 * Content on Wikipedia must be verifiable by published sources that exist at the present time, not ones that will exist in the future. Once the book is published, then it may be an acceptable source.
 * --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drm310
 * AGREED! everthing is verifiable. We will work with TTUP and with Department of Cultural Affairs.
 * I'd say the issue is I am a novice.
 * Thank you! 98.19.23.227 (talk) 23:07, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Reply to your email
Greetings,

the problem with copying stuff from these pages is that the first says "All Rights Reserved" and we have no evidence of a licence for the second. To copy stuff onto Wikipedia, it needs to have a licence that allows anyone to not just copy and use the text, but also to sell it for money or change it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2023 (UTC)