User talk:Mark Ironie/Archive 4

Conflict of Interest Disclosure
Due to recent questions about WP:COI/conflict of interest issues around a source document I've referenced in the Celtic Reconstructionism (CR) Wikipedia article, it seems appropriate that I disclose my connection to the The CR FAQ and the domain it is parked on. I am one of the co-owners of the domain paganachd.com. The domain was acquired specifically to host The CR FAQ and related articles. This is not a commercial or even non-profit enterprise. The sole purpose of the domain is to provide access to the collaboratively created document and directly related articles. I believe the The CR FAQ is a salient secondary source document for the CR article. If you have any questions regarding my relationship to the domain and document, please ask at the bottom of my talk page. (Note: I'm deliberately not using an external link to the site to avoid the appearance of driving traffic to the site.) --Pigman (talk &bull; contribs) 01:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * A question, are you a co-author of the CR FAQ? Ekajati (yakity-yak) 01:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was one of the co-authors. Most of my contributions to the work was logistical and administrative housekeeping of the CeltiWiki project but I contributed writing, editing, and research as well. --Pigman (talk &bull; contribs) 01:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rosencomet's Starwood Edits

 * The Undue Weight issue is pretty much the heart of the current Requests for arbitration/Starwood/Evidence arbitration. You might want to keep an eye on it for when the arbitrators decide what to do.  You are not the first to try to politely point out the problem. --Pigmantalk 22:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up.
 * Cordially, Davidkevin 00:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Did rdSmith4 ever answer you about his evidence for my sockpuppets since he provided no proof & will not answer my requests?
Did he ever answer your request? I am thinking of filing an Arbitration request against him, since he will not acknowledge my requests. I don't think I will be around here much longer anyway, so I may as well go for broke. Sincerely, Mattisse 03:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Garion96's RFA
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship which closed successfully last night. I would also like to encourage you to vote often (just in case you don't) on other candidates since we need more admins. Happy editing, Garion96 (talk) 00:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

VegaDark's Request for Adminship
 

 Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was successful at a unanimous 52/0/0. I hope I can live up to the kind words expressed of me there, and hope to now be more of an asset to the community with access to the tools. Please feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me in the future. Thanks again! VegaDark 07:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Hi Paul

I am working on film director Abbas Kiarostami. The article have been copyedited several times. Still there might be some more need for copy editting. There might be problems that escape me. It is very kind of you if you could take a look at that. Thanks. Sangak 08:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Pls read and think twice
Dear Sir, I am Dr. Mohammad Samir Hossain from Bangladesh. I was and still am too poor like my country. I was desperately searching for support for my research and seeing my desperate wish some educators from the so called non-accreditated university Bircham International University became too kind to buy me books and appove me 100% fund. I had to beg to many but got only one. So I jumped on my dream topic - Philosophy of Death and Adjustment and start working on the Impact of different philosophies on different bangladeshi people. I did it because in the science of death such research was never conducted, but if I can do or at least raise some point for it, may be some richer and more qualified people will find their interest in it and may proceed. My back ground thought was that remedy to many mental health problem might come out from this new branch. But who would raise me with it? Cause I did not have money even to buy papers or my daily food, let alone doing vast correspondences or take help from any accreditated university. Though fortunately I enrolled at Harvard Medical School with full waiver, but that was too small period for me to do any good job. Finally I thought may be Elisabeth kubler-Ross herself might find interest in it and togather we will proceed. But my luck did not support me, cause I found the news of her funeral on the very day I found her organization's web site. So temporarily my research work stopped upto which Bircham International University helped me. So till now I dream of proceeding more on the research with supports of knowledge from all over the world, and I do not even have a web site to introduce my thoughts. So the only light of hope became this free encyclopedia, and for reference I only had Bircham International University web site. So I desperately tried to promote the introduction of the university in this encyclopedia so that the research reference gets its better base. I know my letter is big and annoying, but sometimes we do annoying things for something better, and please believe me I tried to promote Bircham International University or any other that you all object, just to facilitate the birth of a new branch of a science. Please help me in every way, you do not need to ask me anything for editing or changing. If you all fail to help in a rational manner, I do not mind and will take it as a fate. I will see my reply through the condition of the article "Philosophy of Death and Adjustment". I will love to see this baby of mine alive, but if dead, I will follow the branch of science that I am holding on.

Regards Md. Samir Hossain MD, PhD Assistant Professor of Psychiatry E-mail: hmanjur@bttb.net.bd 203.112.197.18 15:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Pigman, I saw this letter on your page, and did think twice as he has done some interesting research. I wikified and referenced the article. Please look again. Thanks! Mattisse 19:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This guy is spamming users by posting this same posting on various User:Talk pages. His "philosophy" falls under geriatrics. --Otheus 01:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Pure Gold
''Rosencomet, out of all the names and information and links you put in your post above, one was pure gold: The Cleveland Free Times article.[11] This is what is meant by third party sourcing. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, please read WP:V and WP:RS. --PigmanTalk to me 03:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)''


 * Well, you'll find a link to that article in the Starwood Festival article in the reference section, and I've used it as a third-party citation several times. But like gold, such articles are rare. Reporters are usually not allowed to come to Neo-Pagan events (especially clothing optional ones, and with the psychedelia/entheogen connection besides) unless the organizers are VERY CONFIDENT that their intentions are honest and that they won't print candid naked pictures or misrepresent the participants as Satanists or some other crapola. We got lucky with Michael Gill. I hope the upcoming Scene article on WinterStar, due out on Wednesday, will not turn out to be fools gold. Here's his teaser on the Scene blog "C-Notes".


 * As I said to Kathryn, there are few articles by reporters to describe individual rituals at Neo-Pagan events. Why do you pretend not to know this? You are both active in the community, and you both do a lot of research, so you must know how rare this is. But she seemed to be interested in the rituals and not just citations for them, so I gave her what I had handy. If she picks particular items she's interested in posting on the Starwood page or an individual's article, I'll be glad to help look for citations specific to them. (And I'll even send you a copy of that issue of the Cleveland Free Times with the pictures if you want; e-mail the address to ace@rosencomet.com attention Wiki Guy and I'll get it.) Rosencomet 05:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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Sammuel Barlay
Although the name was misspelled, the first line of the article states he's a professional football player in Sierra Leone which a Google search and the existing article verify. I'm guessing this was a simple mistake, but please do a cursory Google search the next time you come across something you think should be prodded. Prodding articles on notable people can get you in problems that could easily be avoided. - Mgm|(talk) 11:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

New Wiki: Susan Arcidiacono
Dear Paul,

Read your msg. I've linked in order for my wiki to be notable. Still having problems linking to an external link. Can't seem to do it.

For example, I am trying to link each time I reference the words Frankie & Her Little Pals to its website (www.frankiespals.com). Can u help me?

Also, do I create the categories found at the bottom of the page or does wiki?

Thanks a million, Susan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sarcidia (talk • contribs) 05:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC).


 * I'm responding on your talk page. -- Pig manTalk to me 06:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

RfA thankses
Hi, Pigman, I just wanted to thank you for your support on my RfA, which was successful with a final tally of 61/0/2. Your comment made me laugh quite a lot: suffice to say I hateses the vandalses, too, and now I blockses them. :-) If you have any comments about my use of the tools I would be glad to hear from you on my talk page. Thanks again! Heimstern Läufer 08:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
My request for adminship has closed successfully (79/0/1), so it appears that I am now an administrator. Thanks very much for your vote of confidence. If there's anything I can ever do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. IrishGuy talk 02:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Another RfA Thanks :)
 It's been a week and a bit since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_dzasta 12:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Log
Obviously I don't add the template myself, as it would take me ages! VandalProof does all the work for me as it updates the log with hardly any intervention from me. All i do is press "Update Log". I suggest you ask User:AmiDaniel for more information. -- K.Z      Talk  •   Vandal   •  Contrib  06:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt it's your internet connection's problem. I have used dial up connection on VandalProof, and haven't experienced any problem, although I am now using cable. -- K.Z      Talk  •   Vandal   •  Contrib  06:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

(barnstar)


The modest barnstar may be displayed anywhere (it goes with anything) or may be removed from your page entirely, out of modesty. Thank your for your many contributions, they are noticed and appreciated. --66.82.9.56 21:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for my first barnstar, anonymous IP editor! I'm very sorry I've ever said bad things about IP editors who are vandals. Well, no, I'm not sorry about saying bad things about the vandals, that should go without saying. But, in my own modest way, I recognize that many IP editors contribute greatly to the Wikipedia project and I shall, modestly, refrain in the future from besmirching all IP editors with a too-broad brush. Hand to heart. -- Pig manTalk to me 06:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyeditor's Barnstar
Done. :) · AO Talk 22:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You do know who just posted to ... ? Thanks for the notice. --evrik (talk) 22:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with it, and wouldn't have reported you for it. ;-) --evrik (talk) 22:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Just for the record, I think the same of copyediting as you do. · <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:black; font-size:x-small;">AO</b> <sup style="color:DarkSlateGray;">Talk 00:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your support in my recent RfA which passed unanimously - thus proving that you can indeed fool some of the people some of the time. I'm still coming to terms with the new functionality I have, but so far nothing bad has happened. As always, if there's anything you need to let me know, just drop me a line on my Talk page. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Notability concerns
Hi! I'd like your input at Talk:Luther Buchele Cooperative House. Thanks, --Xnuala 02:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Entrusted with the Bucket!
] Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. Thanks for your vote, I've received an overwhelming 96% support and successfully took a copy of bucket-and-mop from the main office!

School graduation exam and HKCEE are both pressing in, so I might become inactive for a while. But soon after that, I look forward to working with you! --Deryck C. 03:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Another RfA thanks
Hi, Paul. Or is it Pigman? Anyway, thanks must be extended for your excellent support at my RfA. A more splendid collection of alliteration I have never come across at the ol' Wiki. By the way, do you have "vandalbane" trademarked? I think I will steal it for mine own purpose. ;) Thanks once again, such an unexpected turnout and level of support. Bubba hotep 23:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your support on my RfA. It passed with 55/0/0. I'll try my best to be worthy of the trust the community has put in me. If there are any of my actions you have a problem with or a question about, please feel free to discuss this with me and if needed to revert me. If there is anything else I can help you with (backlogs, comments, ...), you can always contact me on my talk page. Fram 14:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Username change
I've removed your request, which I understand you intended to cancel. Do file another one if you come up with a name you prefer. &mdash; Dan | talk 00:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Community AfD
You may want to look at the current version of the article and consider revising your opinion since the current version has multiple reliable sources including a note about a notable award the community has recieved. Thanks JoshuaZ 02:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

For you, with appreciation
The Resilient Barnstar

Hi I'm so sorry to be causing wikipedia so much trouble! I understand what you mean completely. I wrote some articles on beauty queens I either know or represent(I'm a manager/publicist) can you please delete all of my articles? I don't like them having tags for deletion so when the girls I represent view them see people calling them unnotable and "fake", it may cause more drama among us.

REPLY TO YOUR MESSAGE
Hi I'm so sorry to be causing wikipedia so much trouble! I understand what you mean completely. I wrote some articles on beauty queens I either know or represent(I'm a manager/publicist) can you please delete all of my articles? I don't like them having tags for deletion so when the girls I represent view them see people calling them unnotable and "fake", it may cause more drama among us.

Rfa thanks
Hey, just popping by to say thanks a bunch for supporting my succesful Rfa! I'm honoured to serve the community. In the next few days however, I'm planning to take your username to WP:RFCN ;)! Cheers again, and best of luck Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 17:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Your userpage
I hadn't read your most recent version. I know you're a humble sort but, really, I don't think you're at an "intermediate" level of WP knowledge anymore. - <font face="comic sans ms"> Kathryn NicDhàna  ♫ ♦ ♫ 07:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you like a project?
There is a project that desperately needs copy edit help (you being a professional) and I am not up to dealing with these folk. I am going to suggest you in my place (hope you don't mind) -- you may refuse, of course. Having a project and working with specific people, like me and my India copy editing and article writing, has been a wonderful mental uplift although I know nothing about India (but learning). I feel like you are way too hard on yourself and are not using the full range of your copy editing talents and this project surely would. Sincerely, Mattisse 12:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding suggested project
No, this is not India.

User:Salix alba and another editor who saw my comments on his talk page suggested this project to me because of an editing discussion I had with User:Salix alba. The articles in his field, Mathmetics, are in dire straits, endanger of losing their FA status etc. and User:Salix alba has much work to do. I know little about higher mathematics and but I have worked successfully on subjects about which I am uninformed -- editing articles in such a field  can be very helpful to the articles as the editors tend to make assumptions that the general reader knows what is being said. An outside copy editor can clarify and improve the flow by insisting on having the editors spell out what they are saying, thereby allowing the article to be accessible to the general reader. I know that once I get editing, the subject matter doesn't matter. I get interested whatever it is. And User:Salix alba seems quite open to suggestions in organisation, wording etc., plus he is a nice guy and wants help. Anyway, just a suggestion. (I empathise with your state of mind right now.) Sincerely, Mattisse 19:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * P.S. If you took it on, I will offer to help you, if you would like. Mattisse 19:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No, no. No verification of formula. That is all they spend their time doing instead of thinking about coherent articles. The suggestions I made were really simple, like A, B, C, D. organisation, or using a common term in a general article instead of a highly specialised one that math people might understand but put off the general public (like me). He is working on an article called "Addition" in his sandbox that he wants to be simple and appeal to the general public. He would appreciate help. Sincerely, Mattisse 20:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I read the discussion you generated on the Addition talk page. I think your involvement is going to work out very well. You are exactly what they need. (It's a big step that they are allowing you to fool with the first para!) Sincerely, Mattisse 17:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support in my recent RfA. I was successful, and I hope to put the tools to good use. Shimeru 15:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:UW future?
Hi Paul Pigman,

Sorry for the blatant spam, but you have yourself down as interested at WikiProject user warnings WP:UW. There is a discussion on going here that might be of interest to you about the future of this project. There are two strawpolls on the talk pages and the second one is about the future of the WP:UW project. Now we have the end in sight we are looking at wrapping up the project and merging it with Template messages/User talk namespace WP:UTM and creating a one stop shop for all userspace templates. As you have yourself down as interested in this project we thought you may have some input on this issue, and would like you to visit the discussion and give any thoughts you may have on the matter. Cheers <font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu <font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri 10:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Carman Hall Speedy Delete
You catagorized Carman Hall for speedy deletion, though I don't know why. Carman Hall is a residential building of columbia university and has the same merit as the other dorms that have their own wikipedia articles. The article is not as complete as the other articles, but it should not be deleted.

Sjc2128 20:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Starwood
I'll try to see what I can do. (I really need to do RfA sometime.) - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 15:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support on my Request for Administration
I'm happy to say that thanks in part to your support, my RfA passed with a unanimous score of 40/0/0. I solemnly swear to use these shiny new tools with honour and insanity integrity. --Wafulz 15:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Addition
Sorry to hear your bowing out. Wierd how an apparently simple task can be so stressful, although I quite understand having struggled with such things myself. I've now tended to skip the lead when reading maths articles (indeed most wp articles) as the first definition section generally offers up a better definition.

If your interested my best attempt at simple maths writing was at []. The idea there was to start from something the reader knows and generalises it. --Salix alba (talk) 19:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Bad Admin Sensor ?
Erm, was having a look for this or is it more abstract than concrete....BTW thanks muchly for the support...cheers, Casliber | talk  |  contribs 07:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Starwood
The above-named arbitration case has closed and the decision may be found at the link above. Rosencomet is cautioned to avoid aggressive editing of articles when there is a question of conflict of interest. If edit warring or other conflict arises, it may be best to limit editing to talk pages. This notice is given by a clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad 16:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
I would like to thank you for your support in my recent RFA. As you may or may not be aware, it passed with approximately 99% support. I ensure you that I will use the tools well, and if I ever disappoint you, I am open to recall. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to leave me a note on my talkpage. Thanks again, ^ demon [omg plz] <em style="font-size:10px;">20:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support in my recent successful RfA. --Anthony.bradbury 15:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Human Universals
Re:User talk:Alastair Haines. I think you missed Human Universals which verifies the few facts on that page. I think you also missed the link to Donald Brown, the author. You might like to use this verification that was provided to check that there's a couple of dozen links to that page (stub though it is). Donald Brown is famous in my professional subject area. I imaging others wouldn't know who he is, though, and they are less likely to if they have to search outside Wiki to find information about him. How much does the book cost? Where can you purchase it? If these things are not provided, how is something an ad? Keep up the good work. Cheers. Alastair Haines 22:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Mr PigMan for your clarification at my home page. Further to your comments there, Donald Brown probably has hundreds of citations, if not thousands of citations in published literature in his field. I am aware of dozens from my own work alone. I'm sure he'd Google up OK too. He has retired and left a large legacy in print. I'm new to Wiki, so I don't know how much spam you get, good on you for blasting the stuff. My handfull of contributions will always be "false positives". I'm leaving stubs in a few places that I'll get back to as I have liesure. As far as I was concerned, the important thing regarding the Brown entries was providing the link to the list of his universals, for which he is most famous. The people who find the page, will be people who know his work, and are checking what Wiki has on him. People who've never heard of him, won't be coming to the page to check if he's famous enough for them to learn about, if you get my point. It took me a few months as a Wiki reader before I edited anything. It took me six months before I created an article. It's only a matter of time before someone who knows more about Brown than me fleshes out the article. If there's no stub, there's no invitation for people to edit. We don't say anything false, defamatory or even controversial about him, there's just the bare minimum to identify that he's not the jazz musician, basketball player, economics professor, embryology professor etc. I've also created a Donald Brown (disambiguation) page. This too is a stub, we don't have articles for those people, maybe they'll never have sufficient notariety, however, my theory is I'm just making it easier for people in future by leaving a trace of the minimal facts I have, and opening and organizing the entries. Sorry about this essay, I guess it's just a Wiki way of saying, "Howdy doody." ;) Anyway, thanks again for making sure I'm aware of what's going on at Wiki. I'm aware of a lot of policies, they're all pretty much common sense. "False positives" are better than no interactin at all. Cheers. Alastair Haines 23:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You are a star Mr Pigman, more power to you! I really like the Wiki style of doing things. Pushing citation does have to be the way forward -- it addresses the core issue of so many policies. My suspicion is we need to give people some space if something's not controversial, 'cause they are donating the time taken to fetch the citations. However, when uncited stuff causes coniptions and edit wars, citations are the magic that can settle things. I'm sure you guys have your finger on the pulse. Thanks for this great Wiki project. Cheers mate. Alastair Haines 02:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Pigman! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 17:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Alagaёsia: Total War
Can you please give us a straight expanation to why you deleted the page Alagaёsia: Total War? The page had nothing to do with crystal balls. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bubbarum (talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks
Thanks a lot for your support at my RfA. I have now been promoted. J Milburn 17:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Che Finlay
Did you not read the Talk page regarding this article? YellowSnowRecords2 10:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Posibly due to the small amount of information i have currently collected this article could be changed to a stub? YellowSnowRecords2 11:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

college music update query
hello!

Just responding to your response re my entry for College Music Update.

You're right that College Music Update does not bring up huge amounts of Google entries, other than the CMU website, but that is probably because people in the music industry generally know the service as the CMU Daily, though it's official name is College Music Update - in much the same way everyone calls the NME the NME even though it's official name is New Music Express.

I have also got together a number of references to College Music Update / CMU Daily from established music industry / music business / music college websites which I can include.

As I've been away and missed your tag i think the entry has been deleted. I can put it back up with the references and perhaps under the name CMU Daily rather than College Music Update - but wanted to check what you think before I do so - so you don't think I'm just ignoring your comments and trying to upload the same entry!

Let me know what you think

journojack

Journojack 19:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Question, please help!
Hi! You left a message for me about tagging an entry about "Chris Bailey." I would certainly recall if I'd written such an article. It was probably something I edited exactly because it was NOT notable. I can't find the history of the "Chris Bailey" page, do you know how to do that?

Zileaafari 06:30, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Question about a "proded" item
Pigman,

I just found you put a prod on a page I'd done. I looked at the Wikipedia rules and see why you did it, and would be glad to put the item on the dictionary site. However, is it possible to recover the original so I don't have to do it over?

Thanks.

DrDef

Sale, Greater Manchester FAC
Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a LoCE member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Sale, Greater Manchester article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 13:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Irish articles assessments
It seems that the assessment of Irish articles has fallen off the radar but recently Flowerpotman, Sarah777 and I have been doing a little work on this as well as actually classifying articles (actually Sarah has done the most work). Anyway, you are listed as a member of the WikiProject hence this post.


 * The first thing that needs doing is to work on the WikiProject template. Actually there are two templates both of which get recorded by the assessment statistics bot that collects the ratings and creates the listings in the category Category:Ireland articles by quality. The two project templates are Irelandproj listed on the main project page and WikiProject Ireland listed on the assessment page&mdash;the first allows both quality and importance rating as well as nesting but no reviewer comments, while the second allows quality rating and comments but the importance does not seem to work and comments are not included. This needs to be fixed, so we use one that works fully&mdash;can you help?


 * The next thing is to decide if we just let editors assess as they wish or to create some criteria or guidelines for rating the quality and importance of the Irish articles. Personally I am in favour of some guidelines&mdash;some will be easy to decide while others are a little more complex. What do you think?


 * Some projects make lists of articles for assessment while other go after groups of articles by category. What should we do? A mixture of both by using a "To do list"?


 * As of the last assessment statistics bot run on Sunday, August 20, only 1462 articles have been tagged, of which 1156 have been assessed for quality but 660 of these have no importance value.


 * Besides these 1462 there must be hundreds more untagged articles that should be tagged when we get the template issue mentioned above fixed.

We are not bad in our assessments but some projects have all their articles assessed while others are lacking more than we are. We can really use a few active editors to bring assessments to the fore. Please reply on the assessment talk page as to what you can do. Please help out. ww2censor 17:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)