User talk:Markfinkbine

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Help
i dont want to do something wrong but seem to have had a post deleted..im very confused as to why


 * Hi Mark. Not deleted as such, but your addition of the Jim Rose Circus as a tour act in the Pearl Jam article has been removed by User:Lugnuts. I'd guess that it's because you haven't cited a source for the information. The best thing to do at this point would be to ask Lugnuts why he thinks the information isn't appropriate (and explain why you think that it is); you can do so by leaving a message either at his talkpage or the article's talkpage.
 * One thing you definitely shouldn't do is reflexively re-add the material, at least until you have a source to support it. Repeatedly adding (or removing) the same text in an article is called edit-warring, and is strongly frowned upon - doing so more than three times in a row is likely to get you automatically blocked. Talk to Lugnuts about it, and if you need any help, feel free to ask me directly. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  12:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like your edits to various band articles have been to add links to Jim Rose Circus. I would guess that other editors are seeing that as an attempt to wedge links into articles where they may not otherwise belong—it would appear that Jim Rose Circus was not a major feature of Lollapalooza 2009, but rather a side act. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 12:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

thank you for input..everything i added is very relevant..i shouldnt be penalized for showing up late to the wiki party...first it was 1992 not the date you cited 2/ my show got more press than the headliners on that tour with the exception of pearl jam...lollapalooza wanted me to get all the press so they could establish a second stage for the future... its well documented that eddie vedder and i became best friends on that tour in several books..i could go on and on but really..the person who i should have civil discourse with is lugnuts and i would like to approach him in the appropriate manner and am not sure how..do i just go to his page and start a new headline using edit? or is there a chat mechanism that im missing?..PLEASE look at any lollapalooza history for 92 and you will see that I'm mentioned more than almost everyone..and thats articles all the way up to current times..l.a times did a cover feature on me..same with usa today..rolling stone called me the must see event and under whats hot proclaimed a jim rose circus tee shirt from lollapalooza
 * "do i just go to his page and start a new headline using edit?" Pretty much, yes. Edit his userpage exactly as if you were adding to an article (there's a New section tab at the top of the page which will automatically start a new thread at the bottom of the page)*. Looking at your response above, I think it's probably a good idea for me to point you to WP:COI and WP:BESTCOI as well; these two documents describe how best to go about adding to Wikipedia when you want to write about yourself. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  12:53, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * * ...just like you did on my talkpage, in fact! Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  12:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops, not sure where I pulled "2009" from... Anyhow, I would discuss this with Lugnuts. Yunshui is correct, however, that you need to be extremely careful when it comes to editing articles with which you have a conflict of interest. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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The importance of sources
A tangential note to the Help thread above - whilst you may indeed have been a close friend of Eddie Vedder, featured in Rolling Stone etc., Wikipedia won't take that on trust, suspicious bastards that we are. One of the key policies here is that everything in an encyclopedia article has to be verifiable - that is to say, anyone reading that the Jim Rose Circus featured alongside Pearl Jam at Lollapolooza should be able to follow a citation back to a source that confirms the fact. (In this particular instance, I doubt that such a source would be particularly difficult to find.) We get a lot - and, speaking with my admin hat on, I mean a lot - of people adding false information, and this rule is designed to provide a basic form of fact-checking - if something isn't verified, it can (and generally should) be removed.

The solution to this is to provide sources, of course. They need to meet Wikipedia's guideline for reliable sources, and they need to be cited in the text at the appropriate place. They don't have to be readily available online, but they should be at least reasonably accessible to the general public (behind a paywall or in an offline book is fine, but an unpublished thesis or personal anecdote is not). I don't know how your discussion with Lugnuts will pan out, but the most likely explanation for your edits being reverted is a lack of citations. Don't worry - just about everyone here has run afoul of one Wikipedia policy or another at some point; there are tons of them, and some are pretty darned obscure. As always, if you need help, you know how to get hold of me (there's also the Teahouse, which is a good place for editors to start out asking for assistance). Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  13:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

lugnut has not gotten back to me yet...sure hope i got back to him in the right edit box..reams of prestigious sources can be added ..forgive me but i still dont quite get how to add sources that dont show up in text and I'm very hesitant to do so with out hearing from lugnuts...im such an idiot when it comes to this stuff..any recommendations to who i could hire to do this?..i havent fudged a bit..in fact I've been very wiki low profile..a simple jim rose circus google verifies this..i know its up to me though to prove it all..can some one check to see if i contacted lugnuts in the right way?..i feel terrible putting all of you who have better things to do than help a moron through all this..the support i have gotten yunshui is phenomenal and i will abide by what ever you folks tell me to do.
 * Close, but no cigar, I'm afraid - you left your message in his user sandbox, rather than on his talkpage. He'll spot it there sooner or later, but it doesn't generate a notification of new messages, so it might take a while. I've moved your message across to the correct page for you. His last edit was about twelve hours ago, so I expect he'll be back online soon and you'll get an answer then. Cheers, Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  06:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)