User talk:Markh/Archive 2

25th dynasty template
Dear Markh, I had to undo your 25th dynasty Nubian template: and made the appropriate corrections to the table because it erroneously placed Alara as a member of this dynasty. Kashta, his successor, may or may not have been a member of this dynasty (since he controlled parts of Upper Egypt) but Alara certainly was not a 25th dynasty king since he never controlled any region of Egypt in his reign. Perhaps you can delete that template which you created to remove Alara and create a newer one because I don't know how to edit templates. Regards, Leoboudv (talk) 10:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Good Article reassessment for Valley of the Kings
Hello, I am reviewing Archaeology articles as part of the WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force GA sweeps. I reviewed Valley of the Kings today and placed the article on hold for a week to allow for my concerns to be addressed. I am contacting you because you have been a major contributor to the article and may be able to help. The reassessment can be found at Talk:Valley of the Kings/GA1. Please get in touch or comment on the reassessment page if you have any questions. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow! I'm really impressed with all the extra work you put in to add more footnotes. I passed the article for GA in the first place, knowing that you had talent, and now feel very reassured. I came very close to reverting all of GaryColemanFan's fact tagging, a practice which I hope [s]he doesn't continue as it was totally excessive. Although there are a plethora (read: too many) of inline comment tags such as fact and huh etc. extensive and detailed commentary on specific passages goes better on the talk page or on the reassessment page imo. But I'm glad you responded and added so many. Well done! Regards, dvdrw 02:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * When I put this article up for FAC review, all I got was vague 'not enough references', etc. So it was actually useful to have all the citation requests - although there were a large number of them! Markh (talk) 15:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that you have expanded the lead section, and it looks good. I am confused about the first sentence in the second paragraph: "With the 2005 discovery of a new chamber, the valley is known to contain 63 tombs and chambers, and the majority of the burial places of the major royal figures of the Egyptian New Kingdom, together with those privileged nobles." Does this mean that it contains 63 tombs and chambers and that it includes the majority of the burial places of major royal figures, etc.? If so, would you be okay with something along the lines of "...63 tombs and chambers, which comprises the majority of the burial places..."? The way it reads now, it seems like something is missing (like something will be said about the majority of the burial places in the second half of the sentence). GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, never mind. You've fixed it a bit already. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hopeful it is a bit clearer now! Markh (talk) 16:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it. Your new version is much better than my attempt. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing that leaves on my list is the "Decoration" section. The more I think about it, however, the more I realize that it would be hard to say much more without creating a need to go into great detail. There are 63 tombs, so the current section might be best kept as is to give a general overview. Readers who want to know more about the decoration of KV62 could just read the article on KV62. You're more knowledgeable in this area, though, so do you think it's best left how it is now, or is there more that you think should be added? GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is lots that CAN be added, but whether it should be is the question. Each of the tombs is unique, only the progression should probably be noted here, both in decoration and layout. Markh (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. That's what I was thinking, but I thought I'd check with you. I believe that wraps up the reassessment, so I'll close it and keep the article listed as a GA. Thank you so much for all of your help. This was my first GAR as part of the sweeps team, so I've learned a lot from the experience (and I learned a lot about the Valley of the Kings as well). Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons Account
Do you have a WikiCommons account? Have you considered uploading your Egyptian images to Commons like this: Image:Bubastis portal at Karnak.jpg so that non-English WP sites can use it. If it is on English WP, I believe only English language WP sites can use them. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This was a rare first rate image which sat on Wikipedia for years until I moved it to WikiCommons: Image:Stela of Tuthmosis I.jpg Now it is used on some non-English Wikipedia web sites as this search shows. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if I do have a commons account. I should probably try and get one. I'm a little out of the wp loop at the moment, but still have images to upload. Markh (talk) 07:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's OK. When you were in Egypt, did you ever visit the smaller Egyptian temples in Nubia like Kalabsha or Beit el-Wali? I am trying to add a few more images there. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Both these are at New Kalabsha, and I have been there. I can provide some pictures if you need - not sure how good they are. Markh (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * If you have 1, 2, 3 or more good and clear photos of the reliefs and/or architecture of Kalabsha and/or Beit el-Wali temples, I can always arrange them in an image gallery like I just did for this article on the Achaemenid era today: (I believe there was a pylon in the Beit el-Wali temple, for instance and some columns. I just uploaded a few pictures of the unique Oxus gold statuettte, chariot, medallions from a flickr owner who was happy to place them on Wikipedia in this image gallery--I had told him all Commons images are CF free. I can do the same for Kalabsha and/or Beit el-Wali...as long as the images are clear and not fuzzy or out of focus, or too dark or bright. As they say, a picture or two (or three) says a thousand words. I mostly wrote the article on king Ps. I of the 21st dynasty but without a good Commons image like this which a flickr image owner agreed to alter the license: Image:Psusennes I mask by Rafaèle.jpg, it would have lacked context sadly. Well, I hope you can help. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Dear Markh, On second thoughts, don't worry about Kalabsha. Someone on flickr agreed to allow an image to be placed on it. I also have a new Commons image for Beit el-Wali. Thanks for your help though. Just remember: if you upload images on WikiCommons, everyone on all the foreign language sites can use it. I ran across a beautiful picture of a temple in Nubia--only one problem. It was uploaded on German WP which meant it could NOT be used on English, French, Spanish, Indian, Chines, etc WP. I tried to use it on English WP...and got a blank screen. Its much preferable to upload images on Commons. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Gerf Hussein
What happened to the colossal standing statues of Ramesses II in the peristyle court of Gerf Hussein? They are not in this new picture: Image:Reconstructed Gerf Hussein.jpg Were they abandoned to the Nile or moved to Aswan museum. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 21:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that they were largely destroyed (before the reconstruction). If you look at the picture carefully there is the bottom half of a figure in front of the rear right hand column. There is a statue in the Nubian museum that is Gerf Hussain (I think). Markh (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What a shame! I can't believe the Egyptian authorities abandoned the statues. They were a mini-Abu Simbel. Perhaps, they were under time constraints due to the Awan project. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The underground part of the temple is obviously now lost under Lake Nasser. From what I remember of the statues they were rather dumpy and not classically Egyptian. Markh (talk) 19:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

New articles

 * Just to let you know I created 3 articles here on Egyptian temples in Nubia: Amada, Temple of Maharraqa and Kiosk of Qertassi. I think they are well sourced and written overall...given the (rather) few book sources I could locate on them. I also managed to find a few images for them...thank god! By the way, would I be impertinent to briefly ask if you could tell me the general region where you live--are you in the West, or East coast of the US or in Europe? I find it can be hard to contact the best editors and Admins on certain issues since they are mostly in Europe which is 8-9 hours ahead of Western Canada where I am. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I am in Europe - London specifically. I have changed the New Kalabsha article to highlight the kiosk. By the way it is nice to see my Egyptology lecture (Lorna Oakes) quoted in Wikipedia! Markh (talk) 12:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the response. I did not know your Egyptology lecture was included by Lorna Oakes. Her book was very detailed--by far the best analysis of the Egyptian New Kingdom temples in Nubia. I am in Metro Vancouver, Canada. Now that I have finished writing my articles on the smaller Egyptian tombs, I will take a break from writing new articles now as I was a little fatigued by the research. At least, some photos existed for these sites...mostly from flickr. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you by chance an Egyptologist? I know a few real Egyptologists but I write articles on Ancient Egypt mostly as a hobby since it caught my interest when I was at University in the 90's. I would say the biggest problem with WP articles on AE is not that they are inaccurate or filled with WP:OR but that they are mostly just stubs or completely unsourced...one cannot determine where a piece of information came from. I wonder what is your take on the situation? BTW, I [re]wrote this article on TT8. Before I got involved, someone labelled it a 'dead end page' which shows the poor quality of the prose on the subject--one of the greatest finds in Egypt before Tut. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have a qualification in Egyptology, but I am truely a rather obsessive amateur. Good work on TT8 by the way. Yes, most articles are full of utter rubbish, especially the Great Pyramid article, I've stopped even looking at it. Markh (talk) 16:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There are Admins including Weller who monitor these sites which tend to be populated by crackpots. He is in your city too and comes from a family of academics. My impression is that most AE articles are generally good but since they are unsourced, no one knows where the info comes from. At least AE is not like this article Kush which is a disgrace...because no cares about it. I'm written a few articles on some Kushite kings...but nothing more since I don't know much about the topic. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Akhenaten
A quick apology. I think my tone was a bit off last week. You were right to identify the copy violation and you were right to ask that it be re-edited to avoid breach of copyright. Sorry if I came across a bit peeved. Regards. Contaldo80 (talk) 09:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks OK, no offense taken, I meant to leave a comment, but forgot. Markh (talk) 17:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Dear Markh may I use Image:Medinethabu.jpg as an illustration in a book that I am writing on Ancient Egypt. I do hope this is ok, hope to hear from you soon. Yours truly Aaron Watson--Ajwatson82 (talk) 11:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ancient Egypt list
Hi Markh, I told Doug that Captmondo (Keith) dealt with the AE list and he contacted Keith here here but I think you are even more involved with it. Feel free to make a comment to Doug if you wish after you review his work here. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, I created this new article: Please create a banner in its talkpage. Cheers, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you also create an AE banner for this article which Udimu and I created: Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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Ancient Egypt To Do
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Archiving Talk:Ancient Egypt
Hi Markh, why is the archive set to /Archive 5 when no Archive 3 or for exists? --Joshua Issac (talk) 13:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * "Any sections older than 28 days are automatically archived to Archive 5 (for historical reasons)". Markh (talk) 20:16, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * What are those reasons? Archiving was set up in this edit. Is it related to that? --Joshua Issac (talk) 22:28, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I really don't recall, does it really matter ? Markh (talk) 09:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I was just curious. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Vole Clock
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Egyptian hieroglyphs-Gardiner listed
Hello Markh. I wanted to start a small dialogue, since I know you know Ancient Egyptian material. I pretend I know some things; all I know is that after one works on the Rosetta Stone, the Stone of Canopus, the Amarna letters, and the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Hieroglyphs and Cuneiform, there is just no end to discovery. Mr. Budge must have felt like a Kid in a Candy Store, as many other adventurers of Archaeology, and undiscovered Human History. (Wikipedia, and wikipedians have now entered the same space!.)

Your adding the banners to the hieroglyphs is the purpose of talking: I assume that since you chose to put everything into "importance: Low" it was just the easy path. When I started the big "hieroglyphs of Egypt", I went to 'Commons' for the first time. It was about a 5-month effort creating the location for the compendium of "Category:Hieroglyphs of Egypt". I lately added the two "Utcheb" hieroglyphs, and was looking at the "tongue of land", but when looking up the word in Budge's 2-volume dictionary at utcheb, found the "dikebanks, etc". That was the s-shaped, the "Festival Parade Routes", as used in the Rosetta Stone, to celebrate festivals, with women with "garlands"(hieroglyph) in their hair. (I finally understood that the Big S hieroglyph isn't really related to its adjacent "intestine curl". (I questioned that it was.))

So I am talking of this: I am not sure what Egyptian H. deserve higher than "importance: low", but I want to suggest (since you Know) that the "Bread-cone" is super important. (MEDium). (It is on so, so, so many Pharaonic scenes.) See the Sed festival photo: (Pepi Sed festival goblet). What is so amazing about this is that I was showing somebody the photo, and saying that it says in both directions: "Given Living Kingship Forever", (the Kingship =Power), and while not facing her, she said: "Long live the King". It was a highlight of my day, and week. More amazingly, another 'psychic event' occurred (about this Sed goblet), because a very student-like person (who knows some Runes, and is a young-gamer-person) helped me work on the three columns-(for 4-6 minutes). (I was telling him of the Hieroglyph: Archaic dagger: (vertical dagger), but he helped me understand the actual meaning of the 5-fold title: (Ancient Egyptian royal titulary). The three hieroglyphs above each column are 3 name-Categories for the Pharaoh: The first inspite of the what everybody may think is actually (according to my friend) the "Champion Name", (it is also the "Warrior Name"). I will not reveal more, but I now know the other two names for the other two columns read 2-1 to the right vs the left column-1. ....so I'm just establishing a little dialogue, and cheers, (from the HotDesert, SonoranDesert,Arizona, USA)... Mmcannis (talk) 01:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Markh
You initiated the article Ancient Egyptian literature back in September 2007 and edited it as recently as May 2008. Well, I thought it would only be fair to alert you (albeit after the fact) that I have rewritten and expanded the article, as well as submitted it as a Featured Article Candidate. I hope that you don't mind, although I did make an effort to cite a Miriam Lichtheim source as you originally had done. Regards.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 07:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That is great! Well done, I've kind of been giving all this stuff a rest, so this is great progress. Markh (talk) 19:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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"List of Heiroglyphs" pages
Hey, I was just over at the New Pages section. Just thought I'd let you know that your heiroglyph pages look awesome. Cheers! AlexHOUSE (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunatley The idea wasn't mine, I found the new setup on one of the pages, and have copied those that I can. So the kudos should go to someone else - I just did some rearrangements. Markh (talk) 09:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

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