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Bradley International Airport AKA the Hartford/Springfield Airport
Hello Markvs88...I noticed that you reverted an edit that I reverted from one that you made changing the name of Bradley International Airport. I won't argue that the airport is fully paid for by the state of Connecticut, however, you can't ignore the fact that the airport is known as the Hartford/Springfield Airport. There are several references that confirm this. The article correctly stated "Bradley International Airport, which sits 12 miles (19 km) south of Metro Center Springfield, is Hartford-Springfield's airport.". It doesn't say that it belongs to Springfield just as it certainly doesn't belong to Hartford either. The airport is used equally among residents of both metro areas. Interestingly, Windsor Locks is in the Springfield Metropolitan Area.

I respectfully submit that there is no reason why the original language could not stay but if you insist on making note of the fact that the airport "belongs" to Connecticut could it not read "Connecticut's Bradley International Airport, which sits 12 miles (19 km) south of Metro Center Springfield, is known as the Hartford-Springfield airport.". It preserves what it is known as and gives you what you are looking for.

Before I make the change, can you agree to that? Dbroer (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello Dbroer! Thank you for reaching out, and I greatly appreciate your doing so. Please note that I have not said that it belongs to Hartford, my wording was only that it is Connecticut's airport, which is accurate as only Connecticut tax dollars fund it.
 * I have no problem stating that the airport serves Springfield's residents, but I do have a problem with it being called "Springfield's airport" or "Hartford-Springfield" because that's inaccurate due to several reasons that I will put on the Talk:Springfield, Massachusetts page but for some of the points you've brought up here:

Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 00:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * All three citations are from certain airlines call it that for their routes. However, not all airlines do so.
 * There are no statistics I am aware of as to how many people use the airport from Springfield (and the surrounding area) vs.... Hartford, Waterbury, New Haven, Bridgeport, Stamford... etc and their surrounding areas.
 * The distance from Springfield to the airport is also the same as it is from Waterbury, Connecticut. Interestingly, Westover Metropolitan Airport is in Chicopee, MA which is 12 miles from Enfield, Connecticut. Should we start calling Westover Enfield's airport? (Of course not!)

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Westminster School Wiki
Dear Sir, I understand your high regard in keeping to Wikipedia's standards, but I am currently doing a project with my class on updating the Westminster School Wikipedia, and I assure you that all our material is true and well sourced. However, boarding schools are not one to have many internet references, and so it would be great if you could just be aware of the fact that we have access to the old school archives, that we draw our information from.

It is a pain to be getting emails from students telling me that their work is constantly being removed. I assure you the department will check it over with the utmost detail.

-The English Department — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbernaut123 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello and thank you for your kind note. I appreciate what you're doing, and fully appreciate that sometimes it is hard to find third party sources. There's no problem with a valid first-party source, but obviously it can't be used for everything. Likewise, peacock terms and puffery need to be eliminated, such as words like "selective" or "elite"... which are un-encyclopedic. For example, a quick look at Westminster's "brother" schools like Choate Rosemary Hall or Loomis Chaffee School will show that their articles lack such descriptors. I have taken pains to "cookie-cutter" around valid entries, but I cannot guarantee that everything any student writes is not going to be rolled back -- either by me or another editor. Note that using the school's article for such an exercise is a violation of COI, but I'm fine with it so long as such edits are not self-promotional. I am happy to discuss any questions, ideas or concerns that you have. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 02:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

New Haven Fire Dept
Is there a reason you deleted all the information off New Haven Fire Depts. Page ? All the information you deleted was added by a dept historian and taken from dept memo’s, SOG’s and dept records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B10E:2B15:AD9E:7C1:C7CF:A86D (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, and yes. On Wikipedia all un-cited information is always up for deletion. I've tagged and improved articles from all over the state for years, but most never get valid sources. I first started asking for sources on the information in the New Haven Fire Department article in 2012. Please understand that since you don't have a verified account, for all we know you're some fire engine fanboy from Belgium just making stuff up. If the information is added with some sort of citation, it would of course stay. I am happy to discuss and/or work with you on this. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 23:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

It was not helpful
to disparage someone's university like that. There are far worse places, and besides that's not the point. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:59, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello! 1) Exactly how was I to know it was their university? How do you? 2) What gives them the right to edit war on an unrelated page? They could have taken it to talk, but they chose not to. That said, thank you for your note. Markvs88 (talk) 18:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Additional: I took a look and the user in question is in a debate over the issue on the McGill page here. That makes him taking out his frustrations on Yale to be in violation of Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Markvs88 (talk) 18:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yup. But gratuitously sneering at McGill will only make him dig in his heels, won't it? Yngvadottir (talk) 21:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I suppose you're right, but... it's McGill... ;-) Best, Markvs88 (talk) 21:13, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Allegiant Air New Haven Tweed Airport
Hello Markvs88.

Please DO NOT ADD Allegiant Air to the Tweed New Haven Regional Airport destination list! There is no source attached, there has been no documentation of Allegiant ever starting service at HVN, and therefore your edit has been deleted. Continuation of such un-documented edits will result in your IP being banned from editing.

Thanks, Saturnpilot


 * Thank you, but why would I add that? All I did was revert an edit where an IP editor removed a cited point without discussion. Markvs88 (talk) 01:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Grove School (Connecticut): Question about revision
Hey Marksvs88,

I was wondering if you could elaborate further on your decision to revert my changes on the Grove School article that I made on Friday.

Personally, seeing at the school is a self-described "therapeutic boarding school" I find it important to show the success or lack thereof of the students who have gone through their system. As is mentioned at the top the page, the article seems to serve as a biased view of the school, and is written like an advertisement. The fact of the matter is that this is true, and that parents who are struggling at home with their children are going to look at pages like this to find a school that will fit their child best. Although it might not be a popular section of the article, it should be mentioned that they are not perfect, and that there are things that happened that one might not learn about any other way as a potential client of the for-profit organization. I also do not want this to come off as me trying to make the school look bad as a whole. As someone who has a personal history with the school, I do plan on adding more information about the success of other students to show that there is potential for a student to have a great experience and a bright future.

I hope that you reconsider your decision to revert my changes, or at least look them over and help me come up with a better way to represent the information.

Thank you, Zelkins12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zelkins12 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello Zelkins12,
 * Sure, I'd be happy to. While the article is in need of a tune-up, adding information to the extent that was offered was giving the point undue weight per wp:undue. Simply put, the 'pedia seeks to have a neutral point of view about topics and not to be a place to promote debate. Had the crimes been committed while they were students, then of course the stories would logically be a part of the school's history. However, as they were not students when they committed their crimes, it isn't. To give an example, no one would expect a mini-story on Ted Kaczynski in the Harvard University article. So giving each one their own subsection and such a degree of detail is why I reverted the edit. Had each one been bulleted with a brief description, that'd be fine.
 * That said, I'm not against the article having an "Alumni" or "In the news" section, nor of including Mr. O'Neil and/or Mr. Ramierz in it with references and a brief summary. Some good examples of style would be Hotchkiss School or South Kent School.
 * I hope that you find this explanation reasonable one, and hope to see more edits by you in the future. I also think you should review wp:coi, and evaluate if you should disclose your association as described in point #2. I am happy to answer any other questions you have. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 02:26, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Southern Air
Hi, I have very limited knowledge of how to edit wikipedia. In fact, I did not even know I could message you until now. Your last sentence on the Southern Air page is outdated since the pilots already ratified the changes to the CBA. That is the reason I deleted it. The information is outdated and not currently correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:344:C080:BB9:3915:BE6A:E147:5E49 (talk) 03:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, and thank you for writing! I of course do not know the sequence of events, but how would anyone know that? The article sourced for the union dispute doesn't give Southern Air equal time, and so all I did was find a source that did. If you can expand on the issue, it'd be appreciated... but you'd need something verifiable to show that the CBA changes have already happened. Hope this clears up any misunderstanding. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 19:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Westminster School Additions
Dude,

You can't possibly expect a boarding school to have cites of all places. That is unreasonable. Most the wikis for other schools don't have any cites and they're fine.

These are facilities that are real. Look them up.

No one is going to be publishing an article about a dorm built in 1950, but it will just be there.

You know it's there. It's impossible to be able to list that information in well cited formats, and I believe that is evident in other school's wikis.

This isn't an article about some scholarly event or a major city.

Some people want to know about the school and we should provide that information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbernaut123 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No, unreasonable is adding stuff on Wikipedia without citations and expecting it to not get deleted. I don't care to look them up... nor should I have to. I put up CN tags and they get deleted by some people. Maybe, just maybe you should step back and consider: if you can't find a source for it, it isn't notable and shouldn't be here. Yes, I agree... and the information provided should be factual and not folklore. Markvs88 (talk) 23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Westy
Some person put the work in to list all those facilities, and I will link a campus map to the Westy Wiki, but I truly believe deleting it all is just an act that will leave the page crippled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbernaut123 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Bobbernaut123! Unless it's cited, it could all be fiction or puffery or who knows what. Thank you for adding in citations. Markvs88 (talk) 23:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Changes to Oxford High School page
Why did you delete most of the Oxford High School (CT) article? I'm working with classes today on a lesson about Wikipedia and as part of the lesson, I've been having students suggest updates, and then we're making some changes in real time. For example, we added the titles of school plays from the past few years and updated the enrollment figures, which are five years old on the article. We're not vandalizing the article, we're trying to improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Booksarebest (talk • contribs) 15:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Booksarebest. While I appreciate that, per Citing sources, any uncited addition to Wikipedia can be deleted at any time. Uncited "improvements" are basically rumor/folklore. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 23:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I did expand on your edits regarding the library to Oxford, Connecticut as an example of how to cite sources. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 00:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

How are we supposed to document something like a list of the school plays? Our Drama Department doesn't have its own website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Booksarebest (talk • contribs) 12:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do they get reviewed in the town newspaper? If not, they really should not be added per wp:notability. Otherwise there's no way to tell what is true and what is fabrication. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 14:57, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Acela Express
Next time, please consider Template:citation needed rather than deleting things. Thank you. jhawkinson (talk) 15:31, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No thanks. I'd been doing that for years and it rarely works so now I've decided to embrace deletionism to clean up articles. You know, because it works. Markvs88 (talk) 01:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This sort of tone is not welcome here on Wikipedia. Please reconsider your choice of words next time. –Daybeers (talk) 06:55, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right, Daybeers. I can't believe how Morphenniel acted, and appreciate your mentioning it on his page. However, the aftermath is A) that Oknazevad & Morphenniel were incorrectly reverting a correct content deletion and claiming a whole section didn't need a source nor an uncited tag, that B) the source Oknazevad finally DID provide was to a non-existent page (nice quality editing there!), C) that Morphenniel threatened me on my own page and D) then when off on a wp:POINT editing spree (which was to my advantage as he cleaned up articles for me), E) that Mackensen & Pi didn't condemn me for being wp:bold, and supported me on some level, as you do for getting rid of the uncited cruft in the current station list, that F) *I* fixed the source on the Acela Express article section sourcing... and finally G) *nobody* has seen fit to go back and fix the reference for the other 7 times it is used in the article.
 * Since I came back from a 6-year break... I've been cleaning up articles with years-old and often DECADE OLD CN tags. So, please, involve an administrator next time. I stand by my actions. Markvs88 (talk) 12:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do not say you can't believe how Morphenniel acted as if you didn't do the same behavior and more first. There are several instances where both of your deletionist behaviors went much too far and instead could have stopped at adding a citation needed tag or unreferenced section tag. Or, even better, finding sources for the content: what a concept! In regards to fixing the reference, yes you replaced the called reference, which was a dead link, with a bare link, but didn't take the 30 seconds to fill in the reference. It was in fact me who went back in and fixed the reference that is called multiple other times in the article, as well as another one just like it, which you apparently decided wasn't your job because you wanted to see if there were other editors who would fix it instead. This elitist behavior doesn't help anyone in the Wikipedia community: readers, editors, or the site itself, so please, stop. –Daybeers (talk) 21:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do not tell me what I can and cannot say on my own talk page, Daybeers. As for "worse", I find that description absurd. As for my "deletionist behaviors", tell me: where is it written what one *must* add a CN instead of deleting uncited information? Oh, that's right: it's not, anywhere. Further, there are *many* times where I do add tags, which you can easily see if you track through my edit history. Most of the time when I delete, it's over things that keep getting added back in ad nauseum (or removed, such as in Holy Land USA or a particularly difficult IP editor whom believes that Connecticut is not part of New England..). Am I being elitist for actually following wiki guidelines? I don't think so. You may not like the way I do things, and that's your right, but don't act holier-than-thou... that doesn't help anyone either. Markvs88 (talk) 00:13, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Where did I say you must add a CN tag? I said you could have, or even better, actually found a source for the content. I know WP:BURDEN says it's on the editor who adds or readds the content to provide a source, but it would have been helpful to add one yourself. I was referring to your behavior regarding not fixing the dead link in the reference. Quoted from Talk:Acela Express: "As for that: I left it alone to see if the other editors were interested in actually improving the article or just fighting me over a sacred cow." –Daybeers (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Um, what? How about right above at 21:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC), in your second sentence of : "There are several instances where both of your deletionist behaviors went much too far ***and instead could have stopped at adding a citation needed tag or unreferenced section tag. ". ***
 * May I humbly suggest that you drop this, Daybeers? You're not going after Morphenniel for anything, even after he clearly went wp:point. But then, I'm not a train aficionado like he is, right? Markvs88 (talk) 02:41, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You quoted the part I was referring to: "...and instead could have stopped at adding a citation needed tag or unreferenced section tag." I'm just suggesting you stop and think before deleting entire sections again and possibly add a tag or find a source yourself. I would agree that it is fair to delete sections if they have been tagged unreferenced for quite a while, however. –Daybeers (talk) 03:38, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I just want to second Jhawkinson and Daybeers' comments. You significantly reduced the amount of available (and credible) information on the page when a citation needed tag would have been a far more civil and polite thing to do. Getting things done is not the only purpose of Wikipedia; cooperation is neccesary. You can make whatever sort of unilateral edits you want on a personal blog, but not on a collaborative wiki. SCC California (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * SCC California: No, I did no such thing. Uncited = not credible. QED. As for cooperation, I was given none and so I gave none. Markvs88 (talk) 11:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Daybeers : Further "I'm just suggesting you stop and think before deleting entire sections again" implies that I didn't think the first time. That's a really, really offensive thing for you to say, as it is contrary to everything I've explained to date on two different talk pages. Again, it was unreferenced for YEARS and tags are a nicety, not an obligation. I would give more credence to what you're saying if you applied your zeal equally among all of the parties involved. You have not. This is bordering on wp: HUSH. Markvs88 (talk) 11:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Greater Bridgeport Transit Authority
Following your example, I have deleted everything that does not have a source from this article.

It is my intent to go through your edit history and look at every single article that you have contributed to, and I shall delete EVERYTHING that is not cited.

If you want to play this game, then I am willing to go head to head. Morphenniel (talk) 23:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Morphenniel. Excellent and please keep this up! Maybe working united the two of us can clean up this place! Markvs88 (talk) 01:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks again Morphenniel! I just reviewed my watchlist and barring one orphaned image I restored and your not cookie-cuttering around referenced points in the Westport, Connecticut article, I agree with everything you did. Your efforts today have been a great help to me, thanks again. Markvs88 (talk) 01:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

South Norwalk station
Just FYI, there were actually two stations. One was called "Norwalk & South Norwalk" (that's the current South Norwalk station on the New Haven Branch main line), and was on the same site. The other is the Wall Street station, which you added a reference for in the Norwalk, Connecticut article. That was listed in the Danbury Branch article already. epicgenius (talk) 01:26, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Epicgenius, and I appreciate your work updating the various pages you did yesterday. I would still like to discuss Stations at Talk:New Haven Line. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 12:52, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I appreciate your edits as well. However, I will open a discussion at the New Haven Line talk page. epicgenius (talk) 13:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. oknazevad (talk) 17:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification, Oknazevad. Markvs88 (talk) 19:30, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Mary Jobe Akeley
Hi -- thank you for reviewing Mary Jobe Akeley, and thanks for the concrete suggestions about how the article might be improved. I've been working on it this week and would be grateful if you'd take another look. ORES suggests that it might be GA-ready, so I hope it can at least achieve B-class status at this point. It's just about doubled in both bytes and number of sources since that initial evaluation. Thanks! - Kenirwin/ (talk) 03:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure thing Kenirwin, I'd be happy to. Markvs88 (talk) 12:20, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and thanks for some more concrete suggestions. I'm going to try for some photos, but I think I'll have to visit some archives to find ones that aren't copyrighted. I'm glad you figured out what was up with Tappan OH too -- I hadn't worked that out. Thank you! -Kenirwin/ (talk) 15:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Anytime, I'm always happy to help an editor that has their act together, especially on an article about a Connecticut issue. I'll keep looking in and will help with whatever I can. Great job!! Markvs88 (talk) 15:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Westminster
All of the traditions that I wrote about seemed fine to me. I wrote them myself, taking information from the school book by Reverdy Whitlock.

However, I’ll go over it again and then I’ll resubmit. Bobbernaut123 (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Westy Article
A lot of pre vetted information was gutted out as well - stuff that I did not even write.

It really is a shame - other peer school’s articles cover the full scope of campus and culture but for the Westminster one, it barely covers anything about the school and the information on it is the boring stuff, you know.

I believe my work truly and greatly improves/improved the quality of the article, and should be kept after I work over it once or twice. Bobbernaut123 (talk) 19:44, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * For brevity I'll reply to both of your entries here, and on the Westminster talk page separately. I'm not sure where you get the idea that the other "Founder's League Schools" articles are in good shape. Most of them are not, such as Ethel Walker School, Kent School, etc. I'd say that Westminster is in the middle of the pack in terms of how well written the article is. That said, it is not a shame at all -- plagiarism is not tolerated at Westminster, so why should it be tolerated here? You said you wrote the things that "keep getting deleted", yet all you actually have done so far is copy and paste from other websites -- which are notably copyrighted. You can believe what you like, but I suggest adding *small amounts* of well written, sourced information instead of trying to add in a lot of barely-reworded copyrighted material. Good luck, I wish you well in your endeavor. Markvs88 (talk) 20:57, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Joe Porcaro Origins
https://www.google.com/search?ei=G8EsXJrwCJLSsAeKsqCIAg&q=jeff+porcaro+origini&oq=jeff+porcaro+origini&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39.317.1124..1265...0.0..0.234.1472.0j2j5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i203j0i22i30.DZFfD1uWLos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.10.66.201 (talk) 13:50, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * What is the value of a Google search that leads returns Wikipedia as its #1 hit? Markvs88 (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Amy Archer-Gillian
First of all, "the episode yourself"? I did not say that. I said "the episode itself". Another thing is that i've seen every single episode of the show, including "The Uncanny Valley". You can even watch the episode yourself and you'll know she's mentioned. The Criminal Minds Wikia is a database of information about everything to do with the show made by people who have watched the show and i've been a big contributor there too for nearly two years (my account there has the same name as my account here if you want to check it out). OmniFrieza994 (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that was a brainfart on my part there, sorry about that. As for your seeing every single episode: I don't care. I don't watch television, and have no idea whatsoever as to show you're talking about. That said, you can't just say "watch the episode"... you need to cite a reliable source per WP:CITE. Note that Wiki of any kind are not valid sources on Wikipedia, because they're all editable. Please understand I don't mind the information you're providing being in the article, nor do I have any problem with you or your knowledge, I only insist that a reliable source is included. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 01:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Well while we're on this topic, i seem to have encountered a similar problem with someone on Andrei Chikatilo's page. He insists that Chikatilo's references on Criminal Minds is "incidental trivia" and that bad things will happen if his mentions on the show stay. I'd just like to know what you think. Thanks. OmniFrieza994 (talk) 17:52, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello again, and I only agree with Kieronoldham insofar as that the point is not cited and that the prose is really just a mention. The addition of that information would be wholly valid if it came from a valid source, and was properly framed so as to be relevant to the topic. You might find value in reading up on WP:POPCULTURE, as well as checking out A Streetcar Named Marge (of all things). Its "Cultural References" section is one of the best I've seen in any article. Good luck, Markvs88 (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Well almost none of the mentions there have citations behind them. And well its supposed to be a mention (that's the whole point, to inform). Well to be honest, i don't really know of any source other than the wikia. If you could maybe find one, that would be great. Well thanks for your suggestions, but i really don't see what a Simpsons episode has to do with anything. OmniFrieza994 (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The point of looking at Cultural references in the Simpsons episode is to compare it to what you're writing to get ideas as to how to write your additions. As for finding citations for what you want to add, that's yours to Google. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 23:02, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Major League Lacrosse venues: The Ballpark at Harbor Yard
Why did you remove   from The Ballpark at Harbor Yard with the comment, "Nope, never happened."? The Bridgeport Barrage in the MLL did play there for three seasons. -- Pemilligan (talk) 16:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Pemilligan, the point was/is entirely uncited in the article as well as in the Barrage article. Throw in a source that they played at HY and I have no problem whatsoever for it to stay. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 18:21, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Then the appropriate action on your part would have been to add. -- Pemilligan (talk) 21:20, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Pemilligan. If it had been a new(-ish) point, I would have done so. However, it had been unreferenced for something like 3 years. Markvs88 (talk) 13:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

New Milford, Connecticut
Mark— Not sure why you removed the several notable people I recently added. Please explain, thanks. Seanbagleyus (talk) 20:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Seanbagleyus. I reverted them for the reason I posted: "your prior edit okay, but none of this batch are cited in their articles as having lived in New Milford". If you can add citation(s) to their articles and/or the New Milford article, of course they could stay. It's just a matter of verifiability. Markvs88 (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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M-96 (Michigan highway)
I would encourage you to read WP:POINT before continuing your campaign to have that article delisted as GA. --Rschen7754 19:17, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I know what wp:point says, have you read the context for my edits there? It seems to me that a certain somebody doesn't like having the same standards that they apply to others applied to themselves. Markvs88 (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * So you admit that you are violating WP:POINT, then? --Rschen7754 18:52, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you admit that you are aware of what WP:NOTPOINTy says? Because I think that's a stretch, Rschen. Markvs88 (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Let's summarize. So you are pushing a questionable interpretation of policy onto an article by demoting a GA out of process and unilaterally, that was written by another editor, just because they did something you don't like. POINT or not, that's just not how to get along with editors on this site. (Not to mention, that if you claim that it is NOTPOINT, that means that you have changed your opinion on the merge discussion issue rather quickly). --Rschen7754 19:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Personally, I find it questionable why you're keeping on me for a couple of edits that did no harm whatsoever. Re: getting along... c'mon now. The guy reopened a merge that no one cared to weigh in on for three months, with what amounts to a lie regarding independent sources. For an editor who said "I'm a bit of a consistency nut." on that editor's talk page on 15 August 2016... you're being inconsistent here: if a source is valid for one article, it's valid for another. QED. Markvs88 (talk) 01:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you've confused things from two different situations. The GA criteria are silent on notability, and the criteria only require that sources used in an article be reliable. No one here has disputed that a DOT source is reliable. Under the aegis of the General Notability Guideline, I have disputed that a DOT source is independent, which is an important prong of the test under the GNG. Failure to meet the GNG means we'd look at merging an article into an appropriate topic or deleting the article completely. There is an additional concept to consider when looking at the relative notability of state highways. I doubt anyone sincerely would dispute that the Michigan State Trunkline Highway System was notable and should be included in Wikipedia's coverage, especially given the Five Pillars' commitment to Wikipedia serving a gazetteer function. Under the auspices of WP:SIZE, proper coverage of that system would not be possible in a single article. Under those auspices, even List of state trunkline highways in Michigan could not do proper coverage, so articles like M-96 (Michigan highway) are created. Not all highway designations have separate articles; M-554 (Michigan highway) is a redirect to another related article. Secondary highway designations have not been accorded this same deference; they've traditionally only been given separate articles when they meet the GNG on their own. That has meant not just reliable sources, but independent reliable sources, and sadly, a DOT has not been considered independent of the highway system it manages. As for the unsigned secondary highway designation for a bridge and its approaches in Connecticut, that is more akin to Interstate 478 and the Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel, and if an Interstate can be merged to another article, then a secondary highway designation can as well. If merged, we'd have a single, longer article instead of two short articles on overlapping topics.  Imzadi 1979  →   02:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

You know, for a guy that chose to walk away from a discussion for 3 months, you suddenly have an awful lot to say, as does your friend on his fishing expedition. Markvs88 (talk) 03:47, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I won't speak for anyone else, but I had a bunch of real-life stuff happen right around the time of my last replies in October, and it was the appearance of the talk pages on my watchlist that brought the subject back to mind again.  Imzadi 1979  →   16:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand! It must have taken up a lot of your time as you've only made ~1,600 edits since 2 October. Makes perfect sense. Markvs88 (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

February 2019
Your recent editing history at Great Northeast Athletic Conference shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Authority control
I already explained this on the noticeboard, where I thought the issue was settled - I added the Authority control to articles to see if they have wkidata already - this happened, for instance, on the page for the American Academy of Arts and Letters. Some pages do not have wikidata already, so I add it to the bottem of the page so that it will be ready if and when wikidata is created. Note that I also add it while also doing routine editing on a page, for instance the The Literary Voyager.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 00:54, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Please include the link to the noticeboard, as I am unaware of this thread. Also, it is more usual to reply to people on your own talk page to keep conversations centralized and to minimize confusion. Markvs88 (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

February 2019
Hello, I'm Evrik. I noticed that you recently removed content from Connecticut Rivers Council without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 15:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello Evrik, did you read my edit summaries? What part of " Purge. Uncited for years" is vague to you? This was no mistake, it was done because there was no adequate sourcing and because you removed my refimprove tag spuriously years ago while I was on a wikibreak. Thank you for putting in what sources you had inline, but they are all first party so I've added the 3P tag. Markvs88 (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Edit-warring on Richard Blumenthal
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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 * This is being discussed at Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard, and it is bad faith to keep reverting a (multiply!) cited point. Markvs88 (talk) 17:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Notable people
As a general rule, people should not be included in the "notable people" section for a municipality unless they are notable enough to have an article already created (and not immediately deleted). There are some exceptions - some types of people like politicians in certain positions are automatically considered notable, and would be worthwhile red links - but those are rare. Ms. Huguenin seems like a fine person, but she is nowhere near meeting Wikipedia notability guidelines - the only content actually about her is a short bio and incidental mentions. In this case, it also seems likely that the addition is promotional in nature. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, you're right. I just took a second look at the other sources I found and they're mostly repeats or self promo. Markvs88 (talk) 03:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Authority control templates
Why are you removing my AC templates on Conn. counties? Each one had wikidata, so it wasn't like they were blank.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 00:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The conversation regarding your edits has not had any consensus. You never did answer Michael Bednarek's question re: how do we know, AND you agreed not to do any more tagging until a discussion was held. For some reason, you chose to go back to AC tagging... and failed to make state a POV for creating a framework after I intervened on your behalf. Therefore I must take your statement of "It is just easier to keep on tagging instead of tagging, previewing, and leaving if there is no wikidata" at face value and therefore consider all of the AC tags you post to be vandalism. Markvs88 (talk) 13:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Edit warring on Springfield, Massachusetts
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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 * Hahaha no. You cannot refuse to take it to talk, and then claim I'm edit warring over a CN tag. Markvs88 (talk) 20:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The term "cultural capital" is loaded, but to say a citation must demonstrate an economic, media, or administrative role, by any name, is disingenuous when the region's MSA, CSA, and DMA, use Springfield as a handle. It's unneccessary when you could put this a hundred different ways-- the US District Court maintains its sole MA courthouse outside the Boston CSA there, as does the IRS's offices, the largest of private revenue is there, as well as more agencies regional, state and Federal than any city in the Pioneer Valley or Berkshires. Making a case for another "cultural capital", should the term have merit, has other contenders. You don't need a lede source to say Albany is the center of the Capital Region, or Portland is southern Maine's economic center, asking for proof that Springfield the city is the "core" or "capital" of the Springfield Metropolitan Area, as well as your repeated tangential opinions to justify edits, again leads me to believe they are not made in good faith.--Simtropolitan (talk) 20:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Following up re: edits on Fred DeLuca, Peter Buck
Hi Mark,

You have deleted the additions I made to the Fred Deluca and Peter Buck pages.

I'm not sure why you consider the link source not credible. The main link is a news story from the Taiwan media. I know the news story is in Chinese, but that's because the issue is from the China region. Do you consider the news source not credible because it is from outside the US/in a different language? What do you feel needs to be cited to confirm credibility, if a news story is not sufficient?


 * Hello Justmor1, and thank you for coming here to discuss the matter. There are three issues with your edits to those pages.


 * First, as to why the Chinese site [www.net4p.com] is not reliable source. The bar for Verifiability states that the source must be reliable, and that means its a known site of some reputation. Neither it, the "Jiang Yusong Network", or whatever shell of a shell of a shell company its real name is can be contacted directly, as they have no news desk. There is no way to verify the claims of the article, how it got there, if it was paid content, or if they did any fact checking. I'm also highly suspicious as to why this story hasn't gotten coverage in a reputable site like Formosa News, Hsinchu Government News, Xinhua, Chinadaily, Qilu Evening News etc.
 * As for the second sources (details listed here and here ), per Notability's subsection Reliable Sources, the source is not to be extremist or promotional. Not only are both of these sites promotional but they're clearly new sites (created on the same day at the same time with the same content less than a month ago) and are not anywhere near neutral in their coverage... these sites were self published exclusively to further a cause. I also can't find anywhere on the site that states who did this alleged investigation. It's activism, not reporting.
 * Third, and perhaps most importantly: Fred DeLuca has been dead for over three years, and his wife does not run Subway. Likewise, Fred Buck is 88 years old, has been retired for years and was never in charge of the company. It strains credulity that any of these people had anything to do with this issue.
 * The issue could be a suitable one for the Subway (restaurant), *if* viable THIRD PARTY sources could be found to substantiate the claim. However, attributing a free-range chicken issue to a man who's been dead for years, his widow, or his ancient surviving partner based on these sources is not reasonable.
 * I hope that I have been clear here, and I am happy to expand on any points you wish to discuss further, if any. Also please understand that my entire reply here is to substantiate the content removals and none of it is directed at you personally. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 19:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Bradley International Airport
I'm editing it because the route is actually ending. This is per airline officials and sources who are aware of the situation, so stop reverting it. It's true, otherwise I wouldn't put it on there. Saturnpilot (talk) 17:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Saturnpilot
 * If it's true, cite it. Also, why not reply on your own talk page? Markvs88 (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

The Bluefish and Bees, Atlantic League
The Bluefish folded and were replaced by the Rockers, a separate franchise. The Bees replaced the Riversharks, both are separate franchises too. My source is Atlantic League President Rick White. I can’t add a source cause my source is on email, you expect me to upload my whole personal email address to Wikipedia? I don’t think so. My source is Atlantic League President Rick White on email.Granthew (talk) 07:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Granthew. Let me first say that I appreciate your taking the time to write here. However, per wp:cite anything uncited can be deleted at any time. No, I don't expect you to upload personal emails. No one is asking that. However, if it's not a verifiable fact it's... not a verifiable fact. There's *lots* of things I could post here on WP that I know are true but I don't because it's against the whole point of the 'pedia. I'm happy to discuss this further if you like. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 12:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, I’ll be uploading my email messages, thanks a lot, this is why Wikipedia is still untrustworthy. You can contact President Rick White at rwhite@atlanticleague.com. Granthew (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

An email from the league president is a primary source. We avoid using primary sources. The rest is irrelevant. -- Pemilligan (talk) 02:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism or not
The most recent edits made by 173.81.187.245 may be by an IP, and may seem annoying to you, but they were made in good faith and certainly not vandalism. No foul language, just some cosmetic changes to articles. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey, I already dropped you a line on your page about this. The IP just got blocked for three years because I reported it as vandalism... and I really did think it was. If you're saying they're good, I need to get that undone. Markvs88 (talk) 01:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Rollback use
Reverting an improvement like this, especially using rollback, is not appropriate. The edit was not vandalism, which is what rollback is for. Your response and follow-up are even worse, claiming that an edit summary was not used when one was. Given your tenure, you should know that c.e. means copy edit, and its variations are very common. A better response (to a fellow vandal fighter) would have been "Sorry, my bad". —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:10, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello JJMC89. I was trying to sort it out on his talk page when he chose to delete the entire conversation because I didn't immediately apologize, and while he was rude in his one reply as well. I would like to know why you're posting this here and why are you getting involved in a non-event? He undid my rollback and I left it because he left a summary pointing out that it was not deserved. Case closed, and as I said, I wished him no ill will. And again, had he left an actual edit summary instead of "c.e." it would never have happened. Markvs88 (talk) 11:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Removal of Adam Lanza's information from this page
Hello,

I am writing on behalf of Newtown High School where I am an Assistant Principal at the school.

You have listed Adam Lanza as a "Notable Alumni" which is factually incorrect. This person did not graduate nor receive a diploma from Newtown High School. Therefore, he is not an alumna.

We ask that you immediately remove any reference to this person as an alumna of Newtown High School.

Please ensure that any information you post about Newtown High School is factually correct.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Christopher Siano Assistant Principal Newtown High School 12 Berkshire Rd. Sandy Hook, CT 06482

NewtownHS (talk) 22:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thank you for taking the time to write. Let me start by clarifying something: I did not add Lanza to the list on the Newtown High School (Connecticut) article, that was done by an IP editor on 14 January 2019, as you can see in the history here.
 * That said, it appears that he did receive a diploma from NHS on June 25, 2009, at least according to this and to the New Yorker . I do not know if this is true or not, but there it is. If you can provide some source stating that he did not, I'd be happy to see it as I just wasted 15 minutes looking for one on Google and failed to.
 * Personally, I have no stake in this at all but I do take exception to being told "to make sure information is factually correct before adding it to the 'pedia". With all due respect, that line is not exactly cordial. I'm happy to work with you on this should you wish to discuss it further. Markvs88 (talk) 23:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

ITSACASTLE
Seriously, thank you for your comment at the ongoing MFD about wp:ITSACASTLE. --Doncram (talk) 06:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and in this case it was a very easy decision to make. Markvs88 (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

School Article Quality
I really find it frustrating that people on the Westminster talk page claim bad sourcing and many editors just rollback material to just melt the article to its bones while putting zero effort to make it better in any way.

Look at Taft's article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft_School

Taft's is clearly much more unreliably sourced but hey, it gets to keep all its stuff, and oh, also like many, many other schools.

Just totally fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbernaut123 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, Bobbernaut123. I wish to raise three points for you to consider:
 * 1) I've never posted on the Westminster talk page.
 * 2) The Westminster article is 16 TIMES the size of the Taft article.
 * 3) I rollback unsourced additions on something like 9000 Connecticut related articles. Also, feel free to check my edit history, I purge stuff from schools most days. Like East Catholic High School earlier today.
 * I understand your desire to complain, but really, the best thing you can do is just find sources for what you're adding to any given article. It's not personal. Markvs88 (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Rollback revoked
I've revoked rollback for misuse. See here and here for some of your recent problematic uses. Your rollbacks and responses to 99, Serial Number 54129, and me when your misuse has been pointed out show that you don't know (or don't care) when it is appropriate to use rollback. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

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