User talk:Marnad1963

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

Feel free to re-submit a new version of the article. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later."

You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page. Jaranda wat's sup 05:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Parents Via Egg Donation Organization
This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Parents Via Egg Donation Organization, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://tpvedo.blogspot.com. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.

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Speedy deletion of Parents Via Egg Donation Organization
A tag has been placed on Parents Via Egg Donation Organization requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later." You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. -  Toon  05  20:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Want some help?
Hello! I noticed your edit summary to the Parents Via Egg Donation article, and thought I would try to help out. Unfortunately, your article seems to have a copyright violation of this website, so has been tagged for deletion (as obviously we can't have copyrighted material withour permission from the copyright holder). If you have anyquestions or anything, write back here and I'll try to help out. -  Toon  05  20:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Now the subject you were creating an article about will need to satisfy our notability guidelines for organisations.
 * Basically, if there have been a good few news articles, books etc. published about your organisation, then it is notable, and shouldn't be deleted unless there is a copyright violation.
 * You'll need to provide links to prove the coverage though - they can be books, newspaper articles or online news articles etc, from reliable sources.
 * No problem. Now, unfortunately, wikipedia has inclusion guidelines, covered here: WP:ORG - only organisations which meet this guideline can have an article on wikipedia. Can you provide some news articles, links etc. (preferably not blogs though), to show the org has been "subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources"?
 * Actually the article posted on that blog site would go some way to establish notability - do you have the original link? Or was it in a newspaper? (Also, the copyright concerns can be addressed, but it would be easier to rephrase something to avoid having to prove you own the copyright, plus it would probably sound more neutral. -  Toon  05  21:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, have any news outlets, such as CNN, or newspapers written an article about Parents Via Egg Donation? That is how we tell whether or not to allow an organisation, person or product to have an article (otherwise we would be flooded with spam articles, and no way of seeing if the info was true or not). If you respond on this page, it'll probably be easier. -  Toon  05  21:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Parents Via Egg Donation Organization
Hi. I've deleted your article on Parents Via Egg Donation Organization. I notice that you have agreed to license the text under the GDFL, but I still deleted the article because I do not think your organization has received enough attention from reliable sources to allow us to cover it in a neutral manner. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia rather than a directory service, and we do have certain inclusion criteria and guidance on how notable something has to be in order for us to cover it. I apologise if you feel I have erred in this matter, and if you wish to pursue this further I would be happy to discuss it or help you seek further input from other Wikipedia editors at a suitable venue, for example our deletion review forum. I also wish you well with your venture, which seems as if it would be very useful. Hiding T 21:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

PVED
No problem. But seriously, we will need some references from reliable sources, i.e. news articles if this article is to exist at all. -  Toon  05  22:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, to establish notability, we need to have significant coverage in secondary sources, i.e. newspaper etc.. Primary sources can only be used to verify material in the article. If you see here, the NGDT are referred to in many articles, and are the subject of some too, which proves their notability (although the article doesn't convey this well). Until such time as your organisation gains more coverage in the press, books, papers etc., an article would just get deleted as non-notable. Sorry! When you do get substantial coverage, drop me a message and I'll try to help you build a good article. -  Toon  05  11:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello
If you would care to click this link, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Reproductive medicine task force, I have left a message for what I believe to be the best place to find more knowledgeable people on Wikipedia regarding your organization and the issue of its deletion. feel free to chip in to the debate there, especially if there is anything you feel I haven't covered. Best, 17:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Third party sources are independent sources from reputable sources, e.g. newspaper articles. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

PVED
Hi,

if you want to show what you want to post, you can post it on a subpage of your userpage, eg User:Marnad1963/PVED. Or you could just start the article, add the sources and let others copyedit or comment.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: PVED
Hi,

Someone from this IP contacted me on my talk page with regards to "Parents Via Egg Donation".

To start an article on this topic, (1) the article should be written as if written by someone not related to the organization. It should provide a neutral overview, (2) limit its explanation to facts only, and those objective facts should be referenced from sources, and (3) should provide references to establish notability, i.e. provide references from independent reputable published sources. Coverage in these sources establish if PVED is notable. Good ways to find such sources include Google News; I found no references on Google News, so I doubt that notability can be established for PVED.

For a more detailed discussion of these topics, you can refer to our policies of Neutral point of view, Conflict of interest, Verifiability and Notability.

The article as written here: User:Marnad1963/PVED, does not meet these standards, and therefore I don't think it should become an article unless it meets the standards.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi,


 * Thank you for contacting me. Although most of these sources were already available previously when the article was deleted, I think an article could be written. However, the version you prepared in your userspace is not sufficient. Please refer to the advice I gave you above: (1) the article should be written as if written by someone not related to the organization. It should provide a neutral overview, (2) limit its explanation to facts only, and those objective facts should be referenced from sources.


 * For example, instead of writing the "History" section from what you know, you should mention only neutral facts which are also mentioned in this reference: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/margie_boule/index.ssf?/base/living/123190725436410.xml&coll=7 . I'll try a quick copy-edit of the version you've prepared to show how it can be improved.


 * If you have further questions on these issues or if you need more detailed help, don't hesitate to contact me.


 * cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Parents Via Egg Donation - take two
Hey Marna, it's good to hear from you again! I've taken a look at the links you gave me and done some digging. Your group looks to have come pretty far since the last time we spoke. By what I've read, Parents Via Egg Donation looks to be a notable group in the area it is in; the press coverage of the group is probably nopt enough in itself, but a lot of the sites, blogs, articles which I looked at regarding egg donation mentioned your group. For this reason, I'm pretty convinced that PVED meet the notability guidelines, and would be happy to help you write an article. It is important to note, though, that you have a massive conflict of interest, and it's very important to keep any article neutral. We can't use the wikipedia to promote any cause, the article must be strictly encyclopedic. But I've got no doubt that we'll work out the kinks. Congrats on the progress you've made, it's certainly a very worthy cause! Best, – Toon (talk)  22:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * hey, I've started a page in my user space at: User:Toon05/Parents Via Egg Donation, which you can work on, add details to etc.. It's just a start right now, I'll look into adding more in the coming days. once it's in reasonable shape, I'll move the page into article space. Please, add what you think should be in an encyclopaedia article, I'll give you feedback on anything that needs it. My phrasing will be off in many areas, I'm sure, as I'm no expert in the field! – Toon (talk)  22:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Page gone live.
Hey Marna, just to let you know that I've added a couple of references and moved the article into the mainspace - it's now an actual article, located at Parents Via Egg Donation. It's important to keep improving the article, though, and when you get some significant news coverage, let me know and we can use that as another reference and improve the article with the information. Best wishes, – Toon (talk)  19:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Adding your logo
Hey, to add your logo, go here and follow the instructions on that page. That page is specific for organisation logos, which are used under the Fair Use provision under copyright law - this means it preserves all of the normal copyright provisions. If you upload a picture which isn't a logo in future, go to Upload instead. I'll take a look when you've done to see if you've missed anything. Best, – Toon (talk)  20:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Oh yeah, after uploading, we'll need to add the logo to the article - let me know when you've uploaded it and keep a note of the name of the file. – Toon (talk)  20:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks fine so I've added it to the article. Best, – Toon (talk)  11:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

2010 unblock request
You are blocked because you are believed to be advertising your organization on Wikipedia. If unblocked, what contributions do you intend to make?  Sandstein  07:26, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd very much prefer to see you avoid these areas; as has been mentioned, you clearly have a conflict of interest in this area, and your unblock request above does not convince me that you will not continue to post about your organization. Are there any other areas you would be interested in editing? Hers fold  (t/a/c) 20:33, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If he has knowledge in the area, I wouldn't personally object to him writing on articles in the subject of egg donation and third-party reproduction. But this unblock request seems to indicate that he intends to keep writing about Parents Via Egg Donation, the organization he founded, and linking to their web site, and that would be a serious violation of the conflict of interest guidelines, in my opinion.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Your recent edits
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Egg donation
Hi. I can't comment on the references. All I did was add a link Gbawden (talk) 06:32, 26 March 2015 (UTC)