User talk:MartRovers

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Speedy deletion of Draft:Relationshipism


The page Draft:Relationshipism has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://www.scribd.com/book/551059976/BRM-Explained-The-Collected-Works-Volume-One-BRMBOK-Series and https://brm.institute/relationshipism/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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 * Hi Dan, thank you for explaining the issue so thoroughly. I'm happy to reissue the article in my own words. And use the template. That said, I have permission of the BRM Institute to use their article some of the verbiage was pulled from. What do you recommend? Would you like me to have the owner of the BRM Institute confirm this for you? Please advise. Thank you. 174.74.165.27 (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:Relationship-Centered Organization


The page Draft:Relationship-Centered Organization has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://www.scribd.com/book/551059976/BRM-Explained-The-Collected-Works-Volume-One-BRMBOK-Series and https://brm.institute/relationship-centered-shape/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Deletion Review. DanCherek (talk) 22:59, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Dan, thank you for explaining the issue so thoroughly. I'm happy to reissue the article in my own words. And use the template. That said, I have permission of the BRM Institute to use their article some of the verbiage was pulled from. What do you recommend? Would you like me to have the owner of the BRM Institute confirm this for you? Please advise. Thank you. 174.74.165.27 (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The BRM Institute is not a reliable source for the sort of information that you were writing about in those drafts, so it wouldn't particularly help even if the material was compatibly licensed, in my opinion. DanCherek (talk) 01:59, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Dan, thank you again for explaining. May I ask what qualifies as a reliable source? Are there guidelines that I should be aware of perhaps? I'm trying to educate myself.
 * Just for what it is worth. The BRM Institute celebrates its 10-year anniversary in 2024. It has over 10,000 paying members. In 60+ countries. And has certified 10,000 individuals at the BRM Professional level through exams from APMG International and APMG-accredited training organizations. During their certification courses, concepts such as relationshipism and the relationship-oriented organization are being taught. Students, mainly business relationship managers (think of account managers), are taught how to apply these concepts in their own organization.
 * I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you 174.74.163.102 (talk) 01:35, 9 September 2022 (UTC)