User talk:Martha.Savage

Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist (September 6)
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Hermera34 (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist. Thanks! joe deckertalk 17:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist (April 18)
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joe deckertalk 17:17, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist has been accepted
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You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! joe deckertalk 02:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kelly Robert Savage (March 15)
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GRuban (talk) 18:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Kelly Robert Savage


Hello, Martha.Savage. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kelly Robert Savage".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Sam Sailor 20:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

COI or paid editing
You claim in this edit that you have "already" declared your conflict of interest, but I see no such declaration anywhere in your contribution history.

If you are being compensated in any way to edit on Wikipedia, you must comply with WP:PAID before you do anything else here. This is a mandatory legal requirement to which you agreed when you created your account here. Consider this a serious warning; any other activity on Wikipedia before you address this concern will result in your account being blocked.

Otherwise, what association do you have with the subjects you have been writing about? ~Anachronist (talk) 23:03, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

From Martha: I can't see the exact history any more because the article has been deleted. From memory, this is what I did: I declared my conflict of interest at the top of the page where the instructions said to declare it for my draft about my son, Kelly Robert Savage. Then it took several months for somebody to review it. Finally the reviewer said I couldn't write about Kelly because he was famous for a single thing, but I could rewrite it based on the incident (his death in the psychiatric hospital after being tied to his bed for ten days), and the subsequent changes that we have tried to make. They said that the changes needed to be significant. I have been trying to work to make the changes become significant, at which point I planned to revise the page for publication. I would like to have the page back so I could start revising it. I was not warned about losing the page after six months, otherwise I would have revised it earlier.

I am not being paid for any of this. I simply want justice for my son and for the psychiatric establishment in Japan to change their dangerous practices. Publicising the problems is one way I am working on it.


 * Thank you. On that basis I will restore the draft. And I sympathize with your need to shine a light on a subject that needs publicizing.
 * Be aware that this is not a memorial site, it's an encyclopedia. It isn't a place to right great wrongs. And it isn't to be used for publicity purposes, ever.
 * If your son meets notability criteria (that is, he has received significant coverage by independent reliable sources in the context of more than a single event), then he can have an article. As has been pointed out to you, we generally don't have articles on people who are notable for a single event, particularly if the coverage happened all at once and has not persisted. Reframing the article to be about the event rather than the person may be a better approach if the event is notable. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:21, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I found your COI declaration and moved it from the draft article to your user page. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I understand and will continue to try to get enough changes to make the event significant. I will probably change the title to be more about the event. [

Your article and sourcing.
Thanks for your note on my talk page. I am currently writing articles on all female, research-active professors in New Zealand (there are more than I thought; it's taking me a while). Alas I cannot use your CV as a source as wikipedia is a tertiary source and needs to be based on secondary sources, which your CV is categorically not. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:55, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

I've extracted the links from the page history and added them to Martha Savage as well as adding some categories. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:08, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! Martha.Savage (talk) 04:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)