User talk:Martijean

May 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Carter Fleming Group. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ''By all means, improve the article (you can place a tag there to alert an administrator to hold off deleting it briefly), however you can't remove the deletion tag yourself. That is for an administrator to decide.'' &mdash; e. ripley\talk 11:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * One further note, Korn/Ferry is an example of a company that seems notable enough to me to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia. If you want the article on your company to remain, you need to prove that it is somehow notable in its field, with outside reliable sources.  The standards for inclusion in the encyclopedia for companies can be found here WP:CORP. &mdash; e. ripley\talk 11:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again Martijean, I'm happy to try to make things clearer. Wikipedia's policies can be very confusing to new users and sometimes it isn't the easiest place to navigate.  You are correct that the speedy deletion template notes that you should not remove it if you are the page's author, and while you have a separate account from the page's original author, it stretches believability to think that you are not somehow related to the page creator or this company, considering that you only created an account after the deletion template was placed, and your first (and only) edits have been to this article.  You should know that Wikipedia frowns on the practice of recruiting other people to further one side of a dispute or otherwise circumvent Wikipedia's policies.  The intent of the rule prohibiting the page creator from removing the deletion template is formed from the idea that the person who created a page cannot be objective about whether the article meets the encyclopedia's guidelines or not.
 * On to the rest. The threshold for including an article about a company in Wikipedia is not that the article is "interesting."  It is that the company is sufficiently notable to merit an entry.  Simply having a company is not enough to justify a Wikipedia page on that company.  It must be notable enough to have been recognized in its field by some kind of reliable third-party source, such as a newspaper or magazine.  If the company does not meet this standard, outlined here, then no amount of editing will help.  I hope this helps, even though it may not be the answer you want to hear. &mdash; e. ripley\talk 14:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Carter Fleming Group, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The notability guidelines are underpinned by a thought process something like this: If a company is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia, then it will have attracted the notice of neutral sources, such as a newspaper or magazine.  So, reversing that thought pattern, if a company has not attracted the attention of neutral sources, it is not notable enough for inclusion, I'm afraid.  If you have some neutral sources that you can point to please do bring them forward, otherwise this article is likely to be deleted. &mdash; e. ripley\talk 15:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)