User talk:Martijn Hoekstra/Archives/2013/September

Article Feedback Tool update
Hey Martijn Hoekstra. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Strictly Come Dancing (series 11)
I should really go through WP:RPP but the amount of vandalism Strictly Come Dancing (series 11) is receiving is ridiculous. Could you protect it for about two and a half hours (basically until The One Show is over)?-- Laun  chba  ller  15:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm probably the wrong person to ask, I don't think admin actions are a good idea where others think they are. In this specific case, barring edits like this make me think we don't want to protect right now. I view articles that can be changed as a situation progresses to be a very nice gateway for new editors to join Wikipedia, and fix little things, and we shouldn't block that. If you find someone else willing to protect, I won't oppose though. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll bear that in mind, I just go on to my watchlist and find the most recent admin to have edited a page on it. To be honest I was probably annoyed because someone kept adding Natalie Holt and thus creating a link to RaVen Quartet, giving me a notification. Either way, it's too late now.-- Laun  chba  ller  18:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5
This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Another attempt at an R.S. Rodger entry
Martijn,

I put the following message on your talk page almost a month ago, but didn't get a response from you prior to it disappearing: Hi Martijn, I have replaced the lengthy material originally written by Bob Rodger with a much more succinct entry (which is still located in my sandbox). You explained last time that you could not guarantee that even a shorter version would receive final approval, but if this looks initially acceptable to you, would you please transfer it to the location which will permit the evaluation process to begin on it. If some further modification is needed before trying that, please let me know what else should be done. Thanks, again, for your assistance. HamiltonRoberts (talk) 07:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Would you please look at this revision and give me some feedback about whether or not it is now in an acceptable form to begin the review process it needs to undergo for possible acceptance. It is located at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HamiltonRoberts/sandbox. Thanks. HamiltonRoberts (talk) 01:34, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Evidence phase open - Manning naming dispute
Dear Martijn Hoekstra.

This is just a quick courtesy notice. You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Evidence. Please add your evidence by September 19, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Seddon talk 23:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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How to un-SALT
Hello, I just have a quick question, how can I un-SALT a page that is SALTed other than through the deletion review or contacting an admin? Is there no other way? Do I need to be an admin then? Cheers and look forward to hearing back from you. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi ArsenalFan. You need an admin to unsalt a page (salting is a form of protection, and protection can only be set and unset by admins). Where to request it is a good question. I think the best process for anything uncontroversial is to grab the nearest admin and ask them, maybe with an adminhelp or something. A more official route might be request for (un)protection, or indeed requests for undeletion. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:00, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Ask me - while I'm  online. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:11, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ian Charles Stewart
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Lloyds TSB
Hi, I noticed you have renamed Lloyds TSB as Lloyds Bank, although the bank has not been renamed yet. The name will change on 23 September, so the article should still be Lloyds TSB until then. Cloudbound (talk) 21:33, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * feel free to move it back and discus on talk per BRD. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 06:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add  (underline),   (subscript), and   (superscript),   (strikethrough) and   (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl up to Ctrl sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Raghusri image.jpg
Hello sir,

I want to change the License tag and where can i discuss about CSD?

Raghusri (talk) 13:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Raghusri, we don't allow 'for use on wikipedia only'. The GFDL explicitly allows any use anywhere by anyone, as long as they release the work under a compatible licence. If you're ok with that, just remove the restriction from the file page. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the Quicker response sir and i want to move it to Wikimedia Commons with the local file be Kept and as you said i am removing the CSD F3 tag. Raghusri (talk) 14:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That's possible, but why do you want the file to be kept locally? I personally don't see any advantages. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:31, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Howdy ranger
Hoi Martijn, if you're up, could you help Yngvadottir out with a rangeblock? See AN, Administrators'_noticeboard. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I commented there with bad news. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You could have delivered bad news for 100,00+ internet subscribers... Thanks anyway, and did I congratulate you yet on your new king? Drmies (talk) 02:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think you did, thank you. Every true Dutchman is still exalted. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Please reverse your speedy deletion
Of Gospel (Lao Che album). First, you did not provide enough information to satisfy G5 (you did not say which banned user, and which restriction). Second - the topic is notable, has a pl wiki article at pl:Gospel (album), and should not be deleted without a proper AfD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:52, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Piotrus, the banned user is User:Tokarro666. Looking at the deleted content, it seems to be a google translate translation of the PL article. Starting over is a far better idea. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 09:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

RE: Please comment on Talk:HowardJaster
Hi, Martijn Hoekstra,

Many thanks for your help. The image that I am attempting to upload onto Wikimedia Commons is not otherwise on the internet at any website. To the best of my knowledge and belief, the image is a public domain photo.

After several attempts, I have been consistently unable to upload the photo using the Upload Wizard page at Wikimedia Commons. I could easily e-mail the image to someone for uploading, or I could easily upload the image onto a different website for subsequent transfer to Wikimedia Commons.

I would greatly appreciate your advice. HowardJaster (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Howard, if all else fails, you could try sending it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org accompanied by your proof of it being in the public domain. They'll sort it out from there and let you know when the upload is done. That should be within a few days. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Alexf(talk) 21:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hector Bellerin
Hello, I was just wondering if you could un-SALT the page for Hector Bellerin. He has now officially made his professional football debut for Arsenal F.C. against West Bromwich Albion F.C. in the Capital One Cup. Here is a source:. Cheers in advance! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 07:03, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers mate! I created the article then a few days ago. So far I have a lot of updates and revisions to do but that won't be a problem. Thanks again! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:58, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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