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Edward Carson, Canadian Poet
Dear Martijn Hoekstra, The article you refer to on Edward Carson, Canadian Poet was not similar to the first and it was not erased because of copyright violation. It was erased with no regard for the deadline set out. The first entry was not in copyright violation despite what the bot said. The problem with wikipedia administration I am finding is that you base everything on incorrect assumptions without ever actually checking what you're doing. You seem to be run by bots. A fine state of affairs. Lee Gowan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.234.106 (talk) 18:33, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Gowanlee, I don't see where Hoekstra deleted either Edward Carson, Canadian Poet or Edward Carson (writer, photographer, businessman). Both were deleted by Jimfbleak. Edward Carson, Canadian Poet was deleted for promotional concerns (and was also tagged as an unsourced biography of a living person) while Edward Carson (writer, photographer, businessman) was deleted because of copyright issues. Neither version of the article had sources that showed where Carson would pass notability guidelines on Wikipedia, which is a necessity. While he has released work, this is to be expected of someone working in their profession. What you need here is coverage of Carson that is in independent and reliable sources like academic journals/books or newspaper articles. As far as the copyright issues go, the article did copy and closely paraphrase entire sentences from Carson's profile at Writers Union. This is considered to be a copyright violation on Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The articles had links to things written by Carson and people affiliated with him, but not anything about Carson. An example of a reliable source would be something like a news story or review like this one or an article in an academic journal like this one. Some websites are also usable like this one. Now of course a science fiction website wouldn't likely review a poetry book, but I'm listing these more as examples of what type of secondary, independent coverage you need to be providing. Just existing as a writer does not automatically give notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:41, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Gowanlee, I think has given an good, clear explanation of why your articles were deleted, but if you want more detail, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Incidentally, articles can only be deleted by humans, bots just perform routine tasks such as checking for copyright infringements, autobiographies and the like Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

You mean like this? http://canlit.ca/reviews/immense_precision — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.234.106 (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Jime Bleak and Tokyo Girl, I'd like to challenge your assertion. I based Edward Carson's page on my own wikidpedia page which has been up for many many years without ever being deleted for the reasons you've claimed. Here it is:

Lee Gowan From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Nelson Lee Gowan MFA (born in 1961) is a Canadian novelist.

Biography[edit] Gowan grew up on a farm near Swift Current, Saskatchewan, and studied at the University of British Columbia, where he received a Master of Fine Arts degree in creative writing. Gowan is presently based in Toronto where he heads the creative writing program at the School of Continuing Studies, University of Toronto.

At the 1996 Gemini Awards, Gowan was nominated for his screenplay Paris or Somewhere. In 2002 his novel Make Believe Love was nominated for the Trillium Award for Best Book in Ontario.

In 2006 his novel The Last Cowboy was published by Albin Michel in France as Jusqu'au bout du ciel.

Bibliography[edit] 1990: Going to Cuba (Fifth House) ISBN 0-920079-62-8 2001: Make Believe Love (Alfred A. Knopf) ISBN 0-676-97286-1 2004: The Last Cowboy (Alfred A. Knopf) ISBN 0-676-97582-8 2009: Confession (Alfred A. Knopf) ISBN 978-0-307-39683-9 External links[edit] Random House: Lee Gowan

I did not create this page, of course, but I notice that it does not include reviews of my work, which exist, of course. But you say they must be there. Of course, you'll probably just use this as an opportunity to delete my entry as well, as I am also obviously not a significant enough personage to have such a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.234.106 (talk) 14:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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Later in the day
Have a look at the Diesel exhaust article, which I too have begun to look at. It remains a mess, but I have begun to remove redundancies form the lead, note incited statements, and in general to move it to encyclopedic. Pardon the tags, but it is important the article quality be seen for what it is, and some of the tags prompt my colleagues to attend to the specific problems. Le Prof 73.210.154.39 (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months. You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

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Mobile:  Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630)  Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools:  You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925)  There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354)  When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes
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