User talk:Martijn Hoekstra/indef only

Interesting. I can see one or two pitfalls in indef blocking and waiting for a reasoned unblock request - the account gets their talkpage privileges removed for comments made while still angry (perhaps with the block). I know that leeway is supposed to be given to recently blocked editors to let off a little steam, but that doesn't always happen and sometimes the steam is radioactive... A finite block allows the editor to be a bit silly, and still be back in a couple of days. The other issue is that the editor believes they are blocked long term/infinitely, and does not bother with an unblock request. For the indef tariff to work as proposed, the mindset on sanctions and tariffs needs not only to be changed but advertised. When I block for indef, except in cases of vandalism only, I ensure the account knows what is expected for the appeal to get my approval; I do not know if most admins are prepared to put in that effort if most blocks were open ended. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback! I managed to arse myself to expand the rough frame a little to start to look more like an essay. I'm still thinking about the talkpage block, you raise some good points there. I could imagine that a the best way to resolve that in theory is a time limited talkpage block combined with an indef general block. On the second point, I made a rough setup for a section that makes it very clear that en.wiki is not ready yet for this proposal to work. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)