User talk:Martincl

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC) Response from martincl - I assume that this is a general comment sent to all as I do not add inappropriate links!


 * No, it's not a general comment, it's directed toward you. You just added another inappropriate one to Bed. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 19:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

So what was the first innappropriate one - where do I find your list of my innappropriate additions.
 * They're already taken care of, per WP:EL and WP:COI. Wikipedia is not the place to promote sites you own or manage. OhNo itsJamie Talk 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

So it is fine for paragraphs and in some cases entire pages of a site to by copied to wikipedia by others, but inappropriate for the actual site to be included as an external link when the owner spots it– that sounds fair!

I have a large number of sites and I think that I have only added 3 of those to wikipedia (*incidentally I fully accept that the “bed” one was not appropriate), but the others, all dmoz sites, all running for a number of years, all genuine original informative content and no financial affiliations other than adsense (and that on less than 1 in 5, to 1 in 20 pages).

It seems that you are happy to plagiarise a site (or at least knowingly ignore this taking place) for the benefit of fresh content on wikipedia, but for some unknown reason do not want to give credit to that same site as an information source – one incidentally from which wikipedia has copied without permission.

You need not concern yourself about my making any additional contributions. I will not. I also realise that these debates achieve nothing. Rules are only there so that those who set them can ignore them and those who are exploited by them are bound by them - A sad fact of modern life and one by which I guess you are bound.

I hope that in your future editing (and I speak as an editor of a directory myself) that you will allow common sense and fairness (not to mention legal copyright), to play a role in your decisions, even if this does bend some minor rules slightly.

Incidentally, nothing that I have written is intended to be offensive or sarcastic, so please do not infer any personal negativity or animosity towards yourself from it – that is definitely not intended. Please delete my account once you have read this. Best regards Martin
 * Wikipedia has strict rules about copyrighted material; see Copyright_violations. I delete such material when I spot it. Feel free to delete any material that you feel violates that policy.  Also see Right_to_vanish for more info on your options. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 21:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)