User talk:Martinevans123/Archive 8

Das Neue Jahr (or similar)
Have a good one. Look forward to bumping into you once again on the Hadleigh, Suffolk article, or at ITN where your astute observations are not just good reading, but essential for sanity against the tide of the ironically challenged. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:08, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooh... stinging, as ever! Yes, Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:18, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, the irony of me enjoying the last DYK of the year, all praise, and then this happened, - even more we need good wishes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Jolly New Year!! Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)



Blwyddyn Newydd Dda/Happy New Year Martin. Hope you had a good one. Best wishes for 2014. Daicaregos (talk) 15:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Can't stop speaking Swedish
Gott nytt år, Martin. Önskar dig lycka och välstånd för nästa år! — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 22:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "Gan ddymuno hapusrwydd a ffyniant i chi am y flwyddyn nesaf!" Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * 's angel on my Talk is much more to my taste than those he put on yours. Great link, Martin! Is that your dog? — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 22:15, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, good old Bonzo. (.. but used to answer to the name Vivian, and dribble, at the sound of the bell, for some reason.)
 * And we get the yeomen at the end. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 22:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * aspx?uid=1080532 It  was originally designed by Charles Ferdinand Porden (1790-1863)  http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/term_details.aspx?bioId=111093\
 * Chill thy beans, bot. No need to get all antsy, just 'cos I refused to kiss you!! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * In case PCW & Hpj are watching, re : this, it is okay for you, Martin, to reply to bots, 'coz you always, always, reply to other users. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 12:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I refuse to acknowledge, let alone reply, to such a vile slur! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year fellas! Check out this Not bad for an old dude!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:53, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, stunning. Many thanks 'Blowers. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!! to you to, "Mandy" - or, as they say in Queensland, "Happy New Beer, Sheila." Allegedly. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That was 1979. Unfortunately the You-Beaut Aussie Sheila has undergone a general expansion in most directions, but not vertically, and her hair has changed colour, several times actually. It was a Wrennish sort of church. There was a bomb site next to it. And ghosts. I could possibly find it on a map, but it is probably overshadowed by some huge building now. 10:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Arh, bless. Well, as they say in Rome: "Ars even longa, ryvita brevis" (I think). But thanks for sharing that lovely bit of Aussie culture lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

"A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The driver says: "Ugh, that's the ugliest baby I've ever seen." The woman walks to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: "The driver just insulted me." The man says: "You go up there and tell him off. Go on, I'll hold your monkey for you"- Hafspajen (talk) 23:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Pseudopotto martini Hafspajen (talk) 00:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha yes, I know... that's me!! Martinevans123 (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2014 (UTC)



Defendant: Did you get a good look at me when I stole your purse? Victim: Yes, I saw you clearly. You are the one who stole my purse. Defendant: I should have shot you while I had the chance...
 * Hey, Kilmartin was MY idea, vicious Martin. But you manage to put it on too soon. Hafspajen (talk) 10:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ... "Cherif Al Idrissi Airport"!! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:11, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, airports are grrrreat places. Hafspajen (talk) 10:21, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * awww, bless! Yes, "nagapies (meaning "little night monkeys" in Afrikaans)", - I'm sure there are plenty of those about on Wikipedia!


 * 'You little vicious "little night monkey"! Hafspajen (talk) 11:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Saturday Night Live (in Panama)... ? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I know it smacks of blonde-discrimination but:
 * Policeman stops woman walking down the street and says:
 * "Lady, do you realise that you have one breast hanging out of your blouse?"
 * Blonde says: "Oh shit! I've must have left the baby on the bus again!"
 * Amandajm (talk) 08:47, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahahahhahahahaaha Hafspajen (talk) 09:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * a short classic from Mr O'Mahony. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Precious again
  In Your Own Sweet Way

Thank you for quality contributions to articles on churches and halls in Wales, filled with music, for treating In Your Own Sweet Way in your own sweet way, for a clear view on ""a poorly-run bureaucracy with the group dynamics of a cult ... marks will be deducted for obvious expressions of exasperation or humour" - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 354th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Aww, thank you so much, Gerda, although, as we all know, any award should be for: "random contributions to obscure articles, irritating addition of Easter egg pun-links in discussions and interminable arguments to retain despised articles." (but p.s. I always keep the seeds from your awards!!) Martinevans123 (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * What I noticed was the conincidence of sweet, which seems to come with the date, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


 * So, Martinevans123, I have just spat the dummy on the FA discussion page of Wells Cathedral, and, just in case you are wondering, I want to make it absolutely clear that you had nothing to do with it. Amandajm (talk) 08:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, tighten up that prose Mrs!! can't wait for the hot grammar knives!! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Quote of the month.
 * get yours....while stocks last!! .....
 * Christ on a bike. Who comes up with these things?

Copyvio at Umberto Boccioni
Hi! It's a fair question. The answer is that that editor/those editors (don't know if there's one or two, but it looks like one with two names) not only spammed about a hundred links to the Getty archive, but in almost every case copied the archive description verbatim from that source (please follow the link I left in my edit summary for confirmation). That is the copyvio. If you want to add the Getty link back the article please feel free to do so; but please remove the copyvio which you have (inadvertently) restored. I've not opened a CCI about this so far, but if you feel that my judgement should receive some "official" scrutiny, I'm more than happy to do so. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, still baffled. Yes, that's a Getty archive page, with an "archive description", but the text is not copied into the article? I still just don't get it, sorry. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I posted on the talkpage of the article, with the exact text that was copied from the Getty page. Please let me know if you disagree. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see what you mean now, thanks. Am still a little sceptical. And have made a small adjustment - is that enough. maybe? Have replied over there. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

A Tesla Roadster for you!

 * Nice! Hafspajen (talk) 01:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)




 * Did it collided with an elk or was it shrinking in the wash? Hafspajen (talk) 11:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)?
 * Goodness me! It seems my mention of friends in high places is really paying off! Or else... do tell me, Gg53000, what did I do to deserve such a "gas-guzzling monster"? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Open for you: Men's parking space --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha! That is very funny. I'm sure Oswald the Lucky Rabbit would have loved it!. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Did you know that I nominated that for DYK, author's first, and it hit 20k right away? More than my most successful one ever, the one with the woman who can't believe what she sees (in this case her beloved getting married to another one, but could be me more than once here). - I just, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

David Healy
Good evening Martin!

I apologize for misusing the NPOV template. I thought I had posted my explanation on the talk page, but when I went back there were no comments from me there, which makes it look like a drive by. I must have gotten distracted and not finished.

I will post a detailed commentary later this week.

I know and respect Dr. Healy, but I think the article needs to reflect that his point of view is not universally accepted, and I'm concerned that his opinions and value judgments are being presented as undisputed facts throughout the article.

In many ways my argument is a simple one: WP:NPOV requires that the article weigh different points of view according to the extent to which they are adhered to by experts in the field. If Dr. Healy's point of view were universally accepted or even a majority viewpoint, the world would be a very different place and he would be part of the establishment rather than an outside critic of the system. Thus I think other points of view need to be represented in the article.

I look forward to an enjoyable and intellectually stimulating discussion.

98.155.21.76 (talk) 01:00, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi! Had you thought of creating a named account? How's life in San Diego? Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Martin


 * I have a registered account but do not currently use it. It's a long story, but I its not because I was banned, blocked or anything of that sort, so much as that I felt I was subjected to a harassment campaign by another user. The weather here has been excellent, but I hope that the IP address trackers don't allow you to nail my location down closer than within a few miles. That would be a bit concerning. Fortunately my own use of these sites tells me my previous antagonist is not a Californian.


 * I dont' have a copy of Healy's Pharmageddon book, but I googled "David Healy thalidomide" and ran across his description of the 1962 U.S. legislation in his book "antidepressant era". It seems that he understands the legislation we were discussing quite well, and that he was misquoted by some previous editor who wrote the Wikipedia article. I suggest that we could best deal with the specific issue we discussed by deleting the paragraph, which seems to misrepresent both history and Healy's views.   http://books.google.com/books?id=6lpHd_P4VOsC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=david+healy+thalidomide&source=bl&ots=83OVPiZfHR&sig=7QxL0yjUYxb5uyVpI6Q3_Vd4VUY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wQnOUojuBYjyoATtvIDIDQ&ved=0CGsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=david%20healy%20thalidomide&f=false


 * I'd like to see the rest of that article reworked a little so it reads a little less like a press release from Dr. Healy's agent, but don't want to stir up a lot of antagonism. So I'll leave it to you to suggest any further steps.


 * I also very much enjoyed our discussion. Best of how Wikipedia should work!  Warm Regards 98.155.21.76 (talk) 02:41, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's quite unacceptable, of course, that "a harassment campaign by another user" should lead a registered Wikipedia editor to have to resort to the filthy shadows of ip editing (even in sunny San Diego). I strongly urge you to bring this shady and disreputable reprobate to account in the proper manner. I, for one, have even been known to suggest monthly submissions of DNA samples as a means of keeping Wikipedia pure and safe. These fancy Welsh libertarian ideas are all very well, but I feel sorry for poor User:Materialscientist and the like who bravely spend 25-hours-a-day flushing ip trash down the tubes as fast as it floats to the surface (your own hallowed and sun-kissed ip address excepted, of course). Kind regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for yesterday

 * Aww, thank you. Just being my usual sarcastic/ facetious self! But hang on... does that teddy have a straight coat or a curly coat!? Is it even a real pedigree teddy!? OMG! I think it might be a shameless crossbreed!! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ... pass me those Jeremy Beadles, would ya, darhlin' ....

Happy New Year!

 * Oh! what’s occurin’ Sand, luv. Warm?! That Cyanocitta cristata looks a bit frostified, if you ask me. But I knows what u mean. Ta. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Friends in need...

 * Blimey, Princess Layer guv'nor, ah feel as if ah've bin 'ung art ta dry, mate ....

January 2014
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 * *Smoke and Dust Where the Heart Should Have Been  (1967) CBS CBS 63039
 * Is this a typical Bracket-Bot joke? Smoke and Dust ; Where the Heart Should Have Been? Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How very strangely appropriate, almost as if someone had done this on purpose!! Thank heavens that nice polite Bot talks to me now and again, sob, sob... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC) ... it's no good Bot, we've been rumbled by some clever Swede....
 * Not that clöever like Sherlock Holmes, who many times have pointed out Elementary, My Dear Kurt! Hafspajen (talk) 22:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha... "But Mr. Ambassador you are spoiling us, no?" Capt.Teddy123 (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Nej, inte alls utan smartare, Smoke and Dust utan tvekan Gangnam style... och inte alls, dessutom, och utan tvivel ... Gandamstar! Hafspajen (talk) 21:44, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Arrrrh, Hpj... my Swedish is really not good! ButI do so see myself as Wikipedia's codebreaker and it seems Moriarty is now back, so plenty more to do, it seems. Then again, we'd probably all be better off busting some shapes to "the first YouTube video to reach a billion views"! Any global megastar called "Psy" can't be bad. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * in the United States, most especially during the Revolutionary War . It was most notably used in Abbott and Costello's The Time of Their Lives (1946),
 * No worries, bot, Revolutionary War now without that nasty bracket. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:49, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Hall]] in a concert recorded by Deutsche Grammophon for an album release later that year.

ANI notification
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is TheRedPenOfDoom.2C_tendentious_editing_and_a_free-pass_to_edit-war.. Thank you. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Andy. Almost got there in time. Old TRiPoD likes to get really stuck in, sometimes, doesn't he. It's unfortunate that he seems to want to constantly destroy all manner of content. But then he knows all the policy rules, doesn't he. I'd never have the nerve to say he had a long-term corrosive and toxic effect on other editors, of course. Apparently I'm just good at serving soup. I wonder, what percentage of content at Wikipedia is supported by reliable secondary sources? And if the project better served by deleting on sight, or by searching for good sources to support. Yours, The Martians Have Landed (talk) 19:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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Would you care to comment at the Humor talkpage.

Hafspajen (talk) 09:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Old men, in red coats, in Jersey, firing a canon? What a joke. Rock On Tommy.
 * yukeboxHafspajen (talk) 22:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ... shucks, another pretty young thing lured into the cartoon world of wikipedia?
 * Yes!Hafspajen (talk) 23:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, The Americans have a dream, the American dream - the British doesn't have a dream. And we don't have earthquakes because we don't deserve them. Got that. Hafspajen (talk) 02:34, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

We Brits don't need to "have a dream" — we remember our illustrious past when we were the only Superpower on this planet — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 13:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * AAaaaaaaaaaah, the good old days...Hafspajen (talk) 13:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The Original Van Damme Volvo - Epic Split advertisment - . the Original, and then the Epigons .. an undistinguished imitator, follower, or successor of an important writer, painter ..irony ..  ..then ... I was drinking my whole life,  I was drinking my whole life, abusing and fighting.. that made me what 'I am today...Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Are you on a Wikibreak, man? Hafspajen (talk) 08:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Naturellement. Oh la la la! "Too many singers, Too many songs" (but watch out for that scary teddy version, quite alarming!)

Bestime
Greetings Martin. As I remember you had the knack for finding sources for vintage British games companies, I wondered if you could find something and start Bestime which made jigsaws and games for Enid Blyton in 1948.♦  Dr. Blofeld  12:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * A bit of a mystery puzzle, that one. That Iowa State University source says: "The first Famous Five puzzle was published in 1955 by a company called Bestime. They published twenty puzzles, each painted by the Famous Five illustrator, Eileen Soper. Bestime also published different Enid Blyton characters as well as the Famous Five." This source says they published the first four "character jigsaws" in 1948. Looks like they published at least 20 Famous Five puzzles. van der Beek was the illustrator for the Noddy series. This Amelia Jane jigsaw dates from 1948 - same source has a "NODDY FINDS THE CAT SHOP" dated 1966. They also did this Tiddly Winks set. They even did Rock Legends and train jigsaws. But material about the company itself is a bit illusive. Sadly the company was finally dissolved, it seems, in 1973. Maybe someone at the Enid Blyton Society knows more. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Charles Matthews picked up a page which said there had been 146 companies making Noddy stuff alone or something!! Thanks, that helps enough for a stub. Isn't there a category for jigsaw/game manufacturers? I think it would be a good idea to create something like a List of board game and jigsaw puzzle manufacturers of the United Kingdom.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Check out this. He's an incredible player, my favourite after Paco de Lucia or course!♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Yes, "Happy Valentine's Day"! Ah, how lovely. I'm so eggs-cited! And feel so much more fortified. Thanks.
 * Eggxcited?? You silly man. You know I use to sit in one of those egg-chairs::: sometimes. Onions, either fried or in rings, occasionally appear.[citation needed] Hafspajen (talk) 08:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Not getting involved? — Buzzard  — 11:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Certainly not. Home is where the heart is...
 * .Thought you liked eggs. Whats up? Hafspajen (talk) 19:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * .but of course ... the magical sound I long to express..
 * Why don't you like it? You egg clock. Don't bother, it is in the archive now. Hafspajen (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Hafs, I love it .. just don't like getting egg on my sleeve. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Cleaning Woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martin playing banjoHafspajen (talk) 12:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, by Jove! Over here in Blighty, we have the lowly Charlady dontcha' know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everything changed (is changing) today
News on the radio right now. Yanykovich completely out, Tymachenko released, new elections called, new temp Prime Minister. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 16:04, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't doubt it (whichever radio channel one chooses to listen to..) But we can't quite listen to tomorrow's radio yet, can we. I'm also surprised that you want to use a French Yahoo News source in the very first paragraph to support a claim that's not reflected in the main body. Not sure where it could best go. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * National Public Radio in the US is pretty good. There were 5 or 6 good sources but AFP was the last (NYTimes was more recent but only used "Revolution" once in a quote).  Also see http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914204579398561953855036 from WSJ now for up-to-date.  Feb. 22 in Ukraine will likely be their July 4th.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 16:25, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's hope it's not just the first flash in the pan. I admire your optimism. :) But that WSJ article looks a very good source, even without use of the "R word".Martinevans123 (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * BBC's Gavin Hewitt in Kiev was tonight quite clear that the people of Ukraine themselves see it as a revolution, and I see no reason to argue with him. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Vintage classic corner
... you can't play a saxophone like that, Davey!! especially with fairy lights on it


 * ...ADHD or something...

Guido Reni
Hafspajen (talk) 10:21, 24 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, yes.. Judges 15:16, I think.
 * Martinevans Ch.1 v.23: "What's that you say Hafs, you wear the same jeans as your friend from the art-class, Guido Forks? Gosh, are you sure they're still in fashion?"
 * Sweep: "Some of these Admins can talk the hind-leg off a donkey, can't they!"
 * Sue: "Ooo. But not a jawbone, surely, Mr. Matthew!?"
 * .. but that's such a strange German Biblical translation, isn't it.. (must be a friend of Homer, I guess).
 * Cheeky ... —  Sweep  — 21:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's those dog ears, Gareth, not your relentless tidiness. :)
 * Surely you mean my doggednessTortoise and hare rackham.jpg", from an edition of Aesop's Fables illustrated by Arthur Rackham, 1912]] —  Sweep  — 22:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * But of course, Gareth, you are always so useful, but almost always without malice. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I like your "almost always" ... but where did I go wrong ..? — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 22:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah! never one to shy away from the fray are you ... but sheesh, now crying into my wiki T-shirt here, sob.


 * T-shirt—schmee-shirt. Lucky you, mine did not materialise. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 23:00, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's dematerialisation you have to worry about! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Saint David's Day
Saint David's Day (Welsh: Dydd Gŵyl Dewi) St David’s Day – A celebration of Welsh history to remember — | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard| — 5:33 pm, Today (UTC+0)
 * "Dydd Gwyl Dewi hapus!!" St David's Day Celebration Dathlu Dydd Gŵyl Dewi 2009.jpg

The Barnstar of Inland Inundation
Thanks for The Barnstar of Inland Inundation. It wasn't that much work (a couple of days) as chunks were copied and reformatted from existing articles (as shown on the talk page). I am thinking of changing it from Winter storms to Winter flooding - what do you think?&mdash; Rod talk 17:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well maybe that would better reflect the relative proportion of damage that has been done in the region. I do hope you escaped the worst where you are, Rod. It's an ongoing national disaster. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

90,000,000+ can't be wrong
.. just beautiful ..
 * .... "Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth"......... yeah!!!

No reason for reverting of edits
Hi! I saw you didn't like my edits on the page and decided to revert them. In the future, please provide a reason when you do so instead of simply doing so with no reason. That way, it can be debated in the Talk section whether or not the elements of the article in question should be in place. Thank you very much!
 * I guess you mean this change at Living for the City, not at ? I would agree that a lot of what you had removed appeared to be original research. But if a source could have been provided, then it may not have been. That's why I restored it, copy edited and added a  tag. I quite agree that the full set of lyrics should not appear. But some of what you had removed is merely a description of the song's content, similar to a description of the narrative of a novel. It's unfair to call this "original research", it's just a description. There is also some material at the Innervisions article, about the song, which could usefully be copied over and re-used. Thank you very much! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, instead removing a lot of other peoples edits try to think WP:Preserve. Thank you. Hafspajen (talk) 18:01, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Apologies that I didn't use an edit summary for that change, but the two immediately preceding edits, that you had made, likewise had no summary. The lack of any content on your User Page (which makes your name signature appear red) suggested to me that you might be a new or careless editor. I see now that you have made only 32 edits since you appeared in October 2013. But why not add a simple sentence about yourself at your User Page? It always engenders confidence that you are a "sincere" editor! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:06, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply :) You make a lot of sense, and I think we both have valid points of view on this matter. Though, I actually did provide a summary for my first edit. Either way, the user Egghead06 has made great contributions to the article since our edits. I think the article is better now than it was yesterday. Also, thank you for the suggestion regarding my user page. Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way yes, I meant Living for the City, not Innervisions. Lol, thank you! And I meant to link to the page, not it as a template. My mistake. Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:18, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thank you for polite understanding and thanks for signing! And I look forward to a blue name! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Aha, Egghead06 just removed the text I added back. Didn't noticed that it would be forbidden to have the lyrics of a song in an article? Hafspajen (talk) 19:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it's certainly not forbidden, as far as I know, especially if they are for illustrative purposes. Just like for a poem, it seems strange to me that there should be an article at all without some reference to the words. The external link usually provides a route to the full lyric. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * well, there is actually a policy. Do not include the full text of lengthy primary sources. But I prefer to be discussed with first then reverted. It is rude. Hafspajen (talk) 19:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, quite. But there are often exceptions that prove the policy rule...
 * And stare as long as sheep or cows.Hafspajen (talk) 19:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .... you should try goats. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And the cow crunching with depress'd head surpasses any statue. Walt. Full text Hafspajen (talk) 19:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Mmmm, nice love mantra. I think ZZ Top do a version at some of their larger stadium gigs. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Mata Hairy, where do you find all these Hairy types? Hafspajen (talk) 20:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * "Jack Black is right by your side"!!
 * What have you done with your saucer saucepan. Hafspajen (talk) 20:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Very good. But to continue with the steaming Top-fest... make sure ya PLAY LOUD, y'all!! .. and this suitably over the Top: lol .... lawdy!!
 * Too loud. we need to be delicate, and flowerish ->like Lucy's day

Hafspajen (talk) 22:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Awww, bless. This was one of the best, I seem to recall. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Still stuck on auto replay, here... "Took a jump through Mississippi, well, muddy water turned to wine."
 * then again... 1972 was a fine year for German greens: ....

Cheese
Why do we have Goat's milk cheese and no Sheep's milk cheese? Isn't this weird? The Dutch has. nl:Schapenkaasand File:Goralischer Hartkäse aus Schafsmilch; Sheep's-milk cheeses from Poland.JPG could be placed there. Hafspajen (talk) 16:49, 7 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I can recommend this one, named after this hill, (presumably to save having to milk that enormous wandering Dun Cow). Martinevans123 (talk) 17:38, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .No Ewe's milk cheese either. Weird. I think once upon a time there was some at the Sheep article like back some years but that part is gone too. Hafspajen (talk) 17:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * My advice - steer clear of Rams' milk cheese (almost as rare as Hen's teeth crackers or Cow's nest cakes). Bear's Bar and Grylls (talk) 17:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Also Flying Martins. the big cow chese tall tale was nice Hafspajen (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You must be joking...
 * Holy goat, no. File:Holy Isle 10A239.jpg I am not joking. File:Cliffs south of Pen yr Afr - geograph.org.uk - 1529871.jpg File:Vorwitzige Zwergziege.JPG!Hafspajen (talk) 14:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)




 * That picnic looks very tasty, with all those rolled stones ... but it's Mannish Soup for me all the way, thanks, Hafs. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh, Pen yr Afr soup is just epic soup. Why not try istead Cornish fish and shellfish soup with rouille, croutons and parmesan (for two to share)and some cherry soup, goulash, wonton soup... Hafspajen (talk) 18:54, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A bit of Canadian soup sounds fine... but that last one sounds a bit heavy.
 * Ah, the warm countries make people behave like excentrics. Zmiana warty wisnia6522.JPG and friends go all Greek]]Hafspajen (talk) 16:10, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheese-eating surrender monkeys? Really; where is this world going at? Hafspajen (talk) 22:38, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * We in the UK are all intensely relaxed about the net impact of migrants. Vince "Power" Cable (Lib Dem Land) 22:46, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The French are invading... I thought they stopped that at William the Conqueror's time, ay? Hafspajen (talk) 23:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's these flamin' Ozzies we gotta worry about mate!!
 * You are Martin the Teddy bear. Or? You are a stewardess to?Hafspajen (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)




 * Take him off or I am going to scream all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * I knew you'd appreciate him !!
 * Homeless man makeover, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hafspajen (talk) 11:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. If that man is not gone in 30 minutes I will chuck him, Marty. Hafspajen (talk) 12:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Aww, shame, I though he could just maybe live in the woods there for a few more years....? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents--distributing homeless on talk page.....Hafspajen (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * "We in the UK are all intensely relaxed about the net impact of migrants." - Vince "Power" Cable (Lib Dem Land) 22:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


 * "The tramp has always existed in some form or other, and he will continue on his wanderings until the end of time; but there is no question that he has come into public notice, particularly in America, to a greater extent during the present decade than ever before." -- Allan Pinkerton, 1877. He's no trouble, really, is he? :)
 * Well, send him away. My idea of grooming is somewhat corresponding what these guys think File:Queereye-promo.jpg about it. Hafspajen (talk) 13:27, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * He's welcome in my garden any time. I'll be starting on Straight Eye for the Queer Tramp soon, I'm sure.
 * What the fuck. Hafspajen (talk) 21:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ylvis!?? wow, great, thanks! Our Tel had these guys on his radio show this morning, and they did a superb cover of this gem ... !!
 * Great The voice (talk) 21:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The real Norvegian way we talk. Jag heter Finn - my name is Finn [[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen] (talk) 23:12, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ".. Bare en ting som mangler - ingen husker mitt navn!" Great video!! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2014 (UTC) ... "Og så en drager her" haha

ja, jeg vet hva du tenker, mitt liv er perfekt

I know you think my life is perfect

bare en ting som mangler - ingen husker mitt navn!

'''but there is only one thing that lacks- nobody remembers my name! '''

navn-navn

name - name-

de sier Kåre, de sier Geir, de roper Jonatan, de prøver Svein

they call me Kåre,Geir, Jonatan, they try Svein

jeg heter Finn, jeg heter Finn, jeg heter Finn, mitt navn er Finn

but my name is Finn!

de sier gregor, arne Johannes, de roper fritjof, og truls johan.

they call me Gregor, Arne-Johannes, they shout Fritjof, and  Truls Johan

jeg heter Finn, jeg heter Finn, jeg heter Finn, mitt navn er Finn.

but my name is Finn!

I am up in the office with my pretty suit on;

We have a water cooler, have fruits and an image of New York;

We are working on something very secret that no one shall know;

but I can reveal that much that it is a tunnel;

I'm doing tricks from morning to evening;

amd impresses everybody except for the juggler Kjell;

we are a good team here:

But even then there is one thing that makes me a little mad; -- They call me Mogens, they call me Jens, they call out Holger Klaus;

I am not Danish, my name is Finn, I'm staying here at Tåsen, my name is Finn;

you all can remember Morten's name;

you remember Anna-Beate, Ramapatrikuna, and even Gjertud but not Finn; No, never Finn is that so hard? MY NAME IS FINN! His name is Finn; His name is Finn;

His name is Finn; We have said Erik; We tryed Jensern; We  called him Anders; And called him  Kai; But his His name is Finn His name is Finn, it is easy!


 * Thanks Huck. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


 * It will be worse Malagabuthankoreaaustralia.Hafspajen (talk) 23:43, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Psy crossbreed Ylvis Hafspajen (talk) 09:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen (talk) 13:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, that is brilliant. Bring them to BBC !! well, Channel 5 maybe....Martinevans123 (talk) 13:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Dubble deck boysHafspajen (talk) 16:39, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * They deserve a Golden Sea Swallow of Knokke - but not even a wiki article!! What a travesty... (sob, sob)....
 * Sudddenly Norvegians are kind of hip, cooler than cool, the pinnacle of what is "it". Beyond all trends and conventional coolness. Not to be mistaken for "deck". not that all old boring lefse-eating oil-magnats any more. (are we going too make any cheese article?) Hafspajen (talk) 17:16, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Phew! what a relief! ... and I thought they were all Lassie-eating oil magnets. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:21, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * When do we start chese? Hafspajen (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, Bruce, ah guess we'll havta milk those Kangaroos first!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * So, no Carmina Burana for you. Hafspajen (talk) 22:56, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, cobber? Is that anywhere near Carnamah Burana Burakin??

William Swinden Barber
So it seems that he was born in Southowram, or at least was baptised there. So is it also true to say he was born in Halifax. The Southowram article itself says that it is east of Halifax and not in it. I guess this was also true in 1832. I'm not surprised if Halifax wishes to claim him as an important son. And maybe this is just being overly pedantic. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and thanks for your interest. Yes, the problem with Barber is that he was all over these districts. He lived and worked in Halifax central for some decades, though. I don't have sensitive local knowledge of Halifax, so you're welcome to correct the article if necessary. It's been a massive task so far - I'm terrified to do more research, as I keep finding more jolly listed buildings by him, which means I have to research and include yet more stuff. It's fun though. --Storye book (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. Thanks for that. I secretly suspect that Southowram might have to be corrected, although it is quite a way up the hill from Halifax itself. And in 1832 much of the intervening township of Siddall was probably not even there. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, and thanks for the edits.--Storye book (talk) 18:10, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Dave Guest
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 * There's only so far you can go with paraphrasing a short article. These are all simple facts. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

New message from Gareth Griffith-Jones
— &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 17:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Does one have to take a driving test before one can edit at Swedish wiki?? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * A Tes(la)t. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 17:54, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * She not my (If I am a she/he) type. Prefer brunettes or bruns. Phil leave this aloneHafspajen (talk) 20:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's the voice of course, not (just) the arse!! But great to see an appearance by that "mixed-up-muddled-up-shook-up-world of competitive cycling". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Botnen is Norwegian (Nynorsk) for "the bottom"; well, not that kind of bottom. That would be rumpe in Norvegian. Hafspajen (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I know. Apologies, haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Marty, you speak Norvegian a little, no? Hafspajen (talk) 21:22, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Lol. Well.. I've been known to hum this occasionally! Does that count?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

A google translation - Hero
Sir Galahad, a typical hero Hero is in general importance an admirable person who perform great deeds, and thus gaining great honour and glory. In Greek mythology called the heroes heroes (ἥρωι), from where many languages had his word for hero, as well as Swedish words heroic and heroism (heroism). The Greek heroerna often had divine descent, which is common even among heroes in other mythologies. Literary significance[editing wikitext] The main character in a narrative literary work is the character whose actions and destiny in her administration's red thread. Originally, there was no contradiction with the general definition, but then the aesthetics changed notably since the term realism has also been repealed failed people, people in tragic circumstances, evil people, and even people who don't do anything at all and not have anything fancy. Among works with such heroes include Kafka's the process, Louise Boije af Gennäs clean house, Samuel Beckett's waiting for Godot, Tolstoy's Anna Karenina. (Not that is much better in the English article)Hafspajen (talk) 17:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Sounds great to me! But then I'm one of those people who don't do anything at all and not have anything fancy. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * from where many languages had his word Hafspajen (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hu, hej, lad mig bide ham i låret! Hafspajen (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * hahahahaha.... I'm cracking up here. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

heartbreak, musical genius...
Time for some Nina. (tears).
 * ... and I thought I was occasionally a bit obscure.... Martinevans123 (talk) 18:38, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What? A good l, charm? I got the idea from the driving lessons... For the Reverend Owen, however, it is anything but obscure.

Hafspajen (talk) 19:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

..shucks, and the nearest I got was this jolly ditty...

Pow-wow. Hafspajen (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

... or just subdued melancholy
 * .... or full-blown self pity
 * ... or poignant lonliness
 * .. of constant sorrow

"You're not my kind of rabbit at all, cos your feet's too big!!"

G'day
Sir, I have examined your User page and have found you to have made some Valid Points there in your Cogent Arguments and I have decided to Take them under Advisement and have categorically vowed to consider appointing an ad hoc Board of Enquiry with the remit of examining the possibility of recommending the formation of a Steering Committee with a view to assembling a focus group to float a test balloon to gauge the required course of action. Oh, and thanks for your thanks, and....

YSSYguy (talk) 23:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. An immensely great and profound honour, sir. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Rolex Mentor and Protégé Arts Initiative
Thank you, I was asked to go through the talk page as an editor objected to the promotion of the propramme even though these are honors and not commercial. Thank you for your support, I will try editting directly. RMP2014 (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I can't guarantee you'll get a free pass everywhere - it's probably the sponsor's name that upsets the anti-commercial wiki zealots. But I'm sure there are many comparable sponsored awards and honours. Good luck. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Barbie Girl or just a tiny world?
An interesting study: Martinevans123 (talk) 14:49, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Background interview with Professor Henrik Ehrsson: see: www.ehrssonlab.se


 * Eh, what? Hafspajen (talk) 16:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Just put these funny glasses on and I'll stroke your feet...
 * Rubber?Hafspajen (talk) 17:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * well, if you insist....
 * 
 * "Home of JF Kennaday!!" hahaha, but a thin, thin line. Now that was funny. Almost want to go.
 * OH, Christ, that Nightlife, is this an article we feel proud of. Why? Hafspajen (talk) 10:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

.Does this tree sentence feels good? number of oak trees in Germany that are referred to in this way' because they allegedly bear some sort of connection to the poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. the Goethe Oak.
 * ... feels absolutely fine to me, apart from that dreadful bear of course....

Does fairy lights Christmas lights or differ slightly? Hafspajen (talk) 10:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * As you probably know, we in UK now have an EEC directive that means we have to refer to them as "LGBT illuminations". But essentially, yes. (I think fairies are really non-religious angels, whether or not they choose to inhabit trees). Martinevans123 (talk) 10:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * ..Don't tell me that in the land of great traditions you go calling them EEC, LGBT . Hafspajen (talk) 11:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ..It's for the greater good. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:05, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * "This user prefers Gesalzengemälztparfümiertetrinken over Coca Cola"

What is that ? Ale with perfume and salt?
 * .. um, who knows!?


 * ... and talking of Victorian 'taches ... a great collection of facial hair appears here. Mmmm, nice shirt, Ray!
 * .Eh, Planet of the Apes (1968 film)? And those outfits!!! Hafspajen (talk) 22:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, really!! Just because a man chooses to wear a pair of floral flared loons, you think he's a Jolly Jack Tar monkey-boy!! How very dare you!!
 * I thought it was a fishing net. An ape in a fishing net.

But the tune is fine, no? Who me Catherine? Never liked that name. Hafspajen (talk) 23:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings 123Hafspajen (talk) 11:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Flight 370 edit: You're welcome
Usually I don't return these ECHO thanks but I thought you'd appreciate the story that inspired the edit. Daniel Case (talk) 16:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers for that, haha. How incredible. You know what they say about thruth ... Martinevans123 (talk) 16:21, 13 March 2014 (UTC) p.s. I'm sticking with YSSYguy's hiding-in-nostril theory for now...
 * The truth will eventually surface.--MONGO 16:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Flying worms?? whatever next! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Aliens magically appeared and hijacked it?--MONGO 00:09, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes - as simple as ABC. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:20, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Gethin
Apparently it was Gethin's choice to not return after the ten minutes. He is the only one of that front row to start on Saturday ... — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 18:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC) Replacements:  Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Paul James (Bath Rugby), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), James Hook (Perpignan). — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 18:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC) Priestland could be used but I suspect Hook who is a utility back is more likely to be used on Saturday. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 23:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A surprise. And also surprising that Biggar is preferred on Saturday to Priestland, who has great potential. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree; he has.
 * I see. Well, plenty of talent there, I think. Hook has had a "quiet championship" to say the least!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Biggar will be the kicker. He has the confidence and the consistency. The French consider Hook to be the best of the Welsh playing in France, where he plays at 10.
 * I do sometimes cross my fingers when Rhys kicks on the run... lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * But do you ever swear? — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 11:34, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Only afterwards! (haha... I had forgetten that gem - how very genteel.) Martinevans123 (talk) 11:47, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Play the video as well as reading what the defence coach says — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 21:55, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

370
Your wit makes the talk page bearable ;) TMCk (talk) 00:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

BTW. The "Peace is a state of..." quote is delightful. Is it yours?TMCk (talk) 00:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Haha, that's very kind of you. I don't limit my childishness to that Talk Page of course! One day I will take Wikipedia seriously (well, maybe). As to the origin of that fine quote - it's certainly not mine! Fellow Welshman User:Gareth Griffith-Jones may be able to shed some light on its origins. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Good morning! — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 10:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, a very good morning to you, Gareth! What a very worthy source. Thank you. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Happy holi day!
Yay! now that's my kind of leprachaun, to be sure. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Haha, I like that one!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

After all that long way, nobody home
Marty, I know you hiding, what is your sound, will we ever know... I wan't to know..Hafspajen (talk) 17:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC),
 * My sound??

You make caption Hafspajen (talk) 17:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, the wee fairy-folk.... arhh, yes so gentle and quiet

We need more captions for a lady. Hafspajen (talk) 18:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC) I took the liberty to took your captions to Sagaciousphil‎'s page, she needed someone clever to make captions, you know. was also trying to sell the idea with the sheep's chese for her. Hafspajen (talk) 19:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * All in a good cause! I'm sure we could manage something as a joint effort. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You mean? Hafspajen (talk) 19:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sheep cheese of course! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok. Well I guess the first move has to be to create that, and them put in all that cheese stuff, but it would need more than what I put on her page because that was just from other articles. Hafspajen (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be fine to start with, I'm sure. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .I don't like creating articles. Hafspajen (talk) 20:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * haha, so start with a little one! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Meeee. I am now persuading Sagaciousphil to do that. Hafspajen (talk) 20:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I did created some in sheer desperation. Hafspajen (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Go-Saga! Go-Saga!! lol But it would a "feather in your cap" as they say in Suffolk! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .I like my caps free from feathers. That was a sheep hat, you naughty Marty. Hafspajen (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Can also provide the sheep stockings and suspenders, if you're keen (but then I am Welsh, of course). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .Eh, what was this speedy deletion template flying around, while we discuss our next sheep article? Hafspajen (talk) 20:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I assume he or she is a rather careless vandal. Am now asking them ... Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Probably a Swede who cant stand Julius Caesar, Shakespeare and.. images? Hafspajen (talk) 20:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A huge and very unamusing sock-puppet army, apparently... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, is like user Poohead, . Hafspajen (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Similar. But that one looks small-fry in comparison. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It was just nice to say so. Hey, Ylvis has an answer for everything. What does's the sock say? Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed.... why is there a sock in here? (oh, the wiki irony!!)
 * Well, because of the sock, of course. Instead of the "fuck the apartheid" -citation from Ylvis, " Masachukokkoko". Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And talking of conceited over-bearing loud-mouths... a number of editors I have encountered over the years sadly spring to mind as probably holding that creature as a dear personal icon. But then I am a bit of a Grandpa Lemon most of the time... Martinevans123 (talk) 11:30, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Not me, I hate that creature. I am sadly old fashioned. I feel Disney cartoons were at their best while Walt was still alive. Hafspajen (talk) 11:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Lovely day
...and you know what they say, the pen is mightier than the sword ....inna dancehall styleeeee.... tell the people!!!!

Can't. I do. Hafspajen (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

George Washington bobblehead

 * "My manner of living is plain. I do not mean to be put out of it. A glass of wine and a bit of mutton are always ready; and such as will be content to partake of them are always welcome. Those, who expect more, will be disappointed, but no change will be effected by it."

Clap. Hafspajen (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * yes
 * Hey, you made me sit here watch Indian recipes for quite a while. I am simply mad about the Indian cuisine!!! Love it! Hafspajen (talk) 23:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * So, you wondered why this is here on your page? Hafspajen (talk) 11:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems that our friend Doktor Mice has "spilled the wiki beans". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:53, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Love beans for breakfast, do you. It you don't have such plebeian tastes don't start shouting -. I hate that:.. !!!!!!!Hafspajen (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Who said that?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How does one say that, spring is on the way, in rock-talk? Impossible, I got this all wrong. I am not good at this. You do this much better. Hafspajen (talk) 12:45, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe we just have to say this Spring is on his way! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:10, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I will ponder... Marty, how about this Spring is on his way to Stone Spring... well, not much better... Wait this is good->  Hafspajen (talk) 18:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, very good Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Enough is enough...get off my face, animal! ,

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 * Yeah, cheers bot. I hear our Vera is a dab-hand with the Golden Virginia and the blue rizlas. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You talk to bots? What kind of hat has a bot? Hafspajen (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Not the edible kind, I guess.... Martinevans123 (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2014 (UTC) ... a superb album, I urge you to buy a copy
 * .But... but .. but ... it was like ten years ago I went out and bought some music. Hafspajen (talk) 20:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't even have to go out any more (shame really, 30 years ago buying a 12" vinyl disk, in a cardboard sleeve, from a record shop, was just so incredibly satisfying... ) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Hooky
Btw Blowers left you a note on my Talk — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 20:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, a wasted opportunity in my book. But then, if I had my way the Scarlett Shark would still be playing! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Antony Gormley
Sorry, I mistook your edit to this article for a COI edit. BMK (talk) 21:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, easily fixed. Am intrigued as to why he wants to display such a huge piece indoors. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Swinden Barber

 * I do hope that this could make a Good Article some day! Keep up the good work. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! This article is the first comprehensive published biography of Barber, so it's worth the effort - a lot of effort, though! There is no known image of him except for the rather strange one by Wynfield, but when I did the interior photoshoot of one of Barber's buildings for WP, I found this corbel, which I believe to be a portrait of him. Or to put it another way, I can't see what else it can be - and if it's him, he had a great big beard, just like his more famous artist friends. The research has brought out quite a few things not publicly known today about him. --Storye book (talk) 11:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How intriguing. Who knows. But all those pre-Raphaelites liked to imagine they were legendary medieval knights, didn't they? Haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:37, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Rather impractical ones - there's a description of all the Pre-Raphaelite founder-members of Artists Rifles, and it says they all had great big beards - surely that's not according to army rules and regs for various practical reasons. But then it's said that those early members didn't go to war. Some of them spent a lot of time designing insignia and so on . . . all rather amusing. --Storye book (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:TPS here - great article! Are we sure the photo wasn't taken in 1967?!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes I know. Looks very comptemporary, but certainly 60s! For some reason am reminded of dear Viv. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha! Well spotted! But I also suspect that poor Barber had another reason for the beard besides Pre-Raphaelite fashion. He and his wife had a long marriage and no issue. Hence I'm guessing that the beard, in that sometimes cruel era, protected him from taunts respecting his masculinity. --Storye book (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Poor Mrs Barber. Maybe it got in the way. I blame the barber. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:40, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Flowers? Has anyone said flowers? Hafspajen (talk) 14:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Argh! I knew it was too good to last.... one whiff of flora and suddenly we have another Scandanavian invasion! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ha, don't say flower in your edit summary then - you did it again! Actually I was thinking of reviwing the Church of St Michael and All Angels, Beckwithshaw at DYK, if nobody will take it for long. Looks nice. Hafspajen (talk) 14:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you - it's waited patiently for its first review! It was an exciting building to photograph, especially inside the belfry (see images link, bottom right of article) --Storye book (talk) 15:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What a curious relic! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If nobody will have a go at it soon, so... I lost that damn DYK tool, counting words. Hafspajen (talk) 16:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ...beats counting letters. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * .....A kind of, yes.... Hafspajen (talk) 16:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

@ Martinevans: Yes I wondered about the curious relic. A ceremonial foundation-stone-laying implement is usually a diamond-shaped trowel - silver-plated and engraved, of course. This one, made with an ivory handle for the local rich, female benefactor, is actually in the shape of an oversized butter-knife. Maybe they thought she would know what to do with a butter knife (i.e. spread the mortar as if it were butter on bread), but that she might be offended at the sight of a workmanlike trowel, haha. --Storye book (talk) 17:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh well, as relics go, could be a lot worse... like the Holy Fingernail of Saint Nympha, or whatever... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:20, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dave Guest
A tag has been placed on Dave Guest requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.bbc.co.uk/northwesttonight/content/articles/2006/12/30/dave_guest_feature.shtml. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Guest is a very well-known and award winning senior news reporter. More sources to support his notability can easily be found. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You need to push that button on the middle of the template placed on the article, and add what you say here... Hafspajen (talk) 19:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I did both, haha. Thanks anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:27, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * So now, 18 days since it was created, I get a whole 62 minutes to guess which bits were "copyright infringement" before it's deleted. It looked like 95% facts to me. How do you re-write facts to avoid copyvio? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, well, you are not supposed to use the same wording. Use your synonyms. Change the order of the sentences.. Hafspajen (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I kinda knew about that. With what is essentially a chronological list of facts, it's not always easy to re-write. No advice. No trials. No explanations. Just delete after 62 mins. Great. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * NO, I would't say great, it was a bit hars. Why not ask, listen, this is the problem, can you do something about it? Hafspajen (talk) 21:59, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * THIS IS the so called G12 : Text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained. For equivocal cases which do not meet speedy deletion criteria (such as where there is a dubious assertion of permission, where free-content edits overlie the infringement, or where there is only partial infringement or close paraphrasing), the article or the appropriate section should be blanked with .....

"unsalvageably corrupted"
I would not call that unsalvageably corrupted. You should maybe ask  or  for some advice, or any other admin you know that it is an admin. Unsalvageably should mean ... really bad. Hafspajen (talk) 22:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oops! I have this page watch-listed, I have no idea why, and now see that a page I speedied was one of yours. The username didn't click with me at the time, and I didn't spend a whole lot of time looking at the wider history. I'm sorry about that. For what it's worth, I think it was pretty closely similar to the original source. If you want to check you'll presumably ask to have it back. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Um, well, yes, a series of chronological facts can be quite similar to another series of the same facts, I think. No explanation. No advice. Not even any gentle prodding... just "gone in 60 seconds". The most annoying part - I'm left with nothing. I'm not on any crusade here. Just not sure another go is worth the effort. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I do understand how you feel now, and it is not good. Wish   or somebody could find a reasonable solution. Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I imagine that if you ask, who deleted it at my request and is one of the good guys, he will restore the content to you in one way or another, as would any admin I know of. I suppose whether it's worth the effort or not in the end depends on whether the guy is really notable – it might be quite annoying to do more work on it and then find it didn't survive at AfD for example. Again, sorry about this. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Warrington, next time include the link--redlink or not! Saves me a bunch of clicking around through people's deleted contributions. Dave Guest is, for my taste, way too close to the original BBC document, sorry. But I restored some of it, so you can start anew. Just make sure it doesn't get tagged db-person, haha. Drmies (talk) 22:59, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I messaged User:Jimfbleak, but no response after nearly two hours. When I created the article I got the copyvio warning (as expected), so quickly did some paraphrasing. How am I to know if that paraphrasing was enough, or where it was lacking? After 18 days I had assumed the new warning was for notability, not copyvio. I'm not sure how Mr Guest can be less notable than seven of his less senior colleagues. Just lacking a bit of transparency here. I don't create a lot of new articles... but if this is what happens, I am left thinking "why bother". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * @Doktor Mice. You restored some if it, hahaha. Thanks so much. I'll just have to guess which bits were no good. Again, as I remember it, this was more or less a set of life history facts. Not sure I will ever know where I went so wrong. Sorry to upset your tastes. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:13, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I could go into detail, but not right now: our company is here. Take my word for it, as an admin and an English prof. Later, Drmies (talk) 23:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Our company? I didn't even know we had one. Can't wait. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * (Late comment before dashing to work) I rejiggered material in your version to re-expand Drmies' version, and found an additional award I was able to add. I hope that helps. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yngvadottir, that's extremely helpful and thoughtful of you. Thank you so much. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * is great.Hafspajen (talk) 16:07, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I did not reply within two hours, even unpaid volunteers have to sleep! I see that two other admins seem to have sorted this out. FWIW, I considered that your version of the two paragraphs beginning He worked on the Lancaster Guardian... was too close a paraphrase of the original to be accepted as your own work rather than a copyright infringement.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:28, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * "I didn't get where I am today by sleeping for two hours, Reggie." ... If only I could remember what I wrote, I might well agree with you. Again I have a problem paraphrasing facts and the order in which they occurred. But thanks for your explanation. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What I don't understand here is, if something is perceived to be a copyvio, why don't editors just adjust text (or remove the offending text) to correct the problem, rather than deleting the whole lot? Or is it the case that perceived copyvio material can't even appear in article history? If the latter is the case, there are several articles which I've worked on to remove copyvios, which it seems should be deleted as well, and any vandal wanting to cause a lot of headaches just needs to dump copyvio material into loads of articles, so they all have to be deleted.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's curious. But I think the above goes to show how collaboration can achieve far more. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Back in the old times, like 2007, WP:Preserve was something people took more seriously.

WP:Preserve :Instead of deleting text, consider:
 * rephrasing or copyediting to improve grammar, more accurately represent the sources, or balance the article's contents
 * correcting inaccuracy, while keeping the rest of the content intact
 * moving the information to another existing article or splitting the information to a new article
 * adding more of what you think is important to make an article more point-of-view balanced
 * requesting a citation by adding the citation needed tag, or adding any other Template:Inline tags as appropriate
 * doing a quick search for sources and adding a citation yourself
 * adding appropriate cleanup tags to sections you cannot fix yourself
 * repair a dead link if a new URL for the page or an archive of the old one can be located
 * merging the entire article into another article with the original article turned into a redirect as described at performing a merge
 * fixing errors in wikitext code or formatting...

Those times we were building an encyclopedia. I observed that many fairly new users think nowadays that it easier to delete and remove.


 * By the way, Did you know there's an easier way to take your shirt off?Hafspajen (talk) 15:24, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


 * PS. By the way, if you dislike this, I was trying now for a while to do some changes, here. Why should one guy or two guys, who are not even an admin just overrule it. Hafspajen (talk) 15:45, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmm, well he certainly likes to take his shirt off, doesn't he. Ooo-errrr missus. But of course, I've been there done that, got the wiki t-shirt

I enclose my name – asking you, if you please – Sir – to tell me what is true? That you will not betray me – it is needless to ask – since Honor is it's [sic] own pawn – Hafspajen (talk) 22:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm here because of another article (Dave Lawson (musician)) that was another copyright violation. You should write an article in your own words, not tweak the words of another (unless it is a public domain source). That is how you avoid Close paraphrasing. Also, you need to abide by the non-free content rules as well; these two images you uploaded this week do not have sufficient fair use rationales and they are both of higher resolution permissible under the non-free content criteria. I hope you adhere to our copyright policies in future or you will end up blocked and Wikipedia will lose one of it's prolific content contributors. While I'm here I can answer some of the points posed in this conversation thread. Hafspajen, if you read the whole section that you quoted, you'll see that it explicitly says that copyrighted material should be removed "...vandalism should be completely removed, as should material that violates copyright...". PaleCloudedWhite, yes, copyrighted material should be deleted from the article history, admins will delete selected revisions that violate copyright, you can see that I have done this here. James086 Talk  19:46, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi James. Thanks for the compliment. So did you want to block me? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why File:Winter_Moon.jpg fails fair use. And I thought File:Slim Harpo.jpg was borderline. To save you the trouble, I've deleted both of those images from the articles which they enhanced so well. Someone might want to reduce those precious pixels so someone else doesn't nick them to make fake album covers.
 * Regarding Dave Lawson (musician), your very efficient revisions epitomise the problem for the misguided copyright violator like myself - you've hidden all those edits that were transgressions so I now have no way of checking what they were! But it's my perennial problem - how to "write in my own words" a series of life events which (to me) appear as plain facts and in a certain necessary order. The irony of your complaints over this particular article is somewhat heightened, however, by the way I came to write it. I actually emailed Dave himself (via that link on his website) as soon as I had created it, to ask him if he had a problem with it, explaining that most of it was taken from his own website page. He was quite pleased (I can send you copies of my emails if you are really interested!) I realise that my devious methods have no place in the panoply of wiki-Regeln-und-Gesetze, alas. But I felt morally bound to do this of my own bat. In fact I began to feel a bit of a fraud when I started to try and re-write the material "in my own words" just to save me from copyvio-telling-offs (like the one you have just given me) lol.
 * But, Father James, now that I have secured your full attention, you must forgive me wiki-Father, for my pernicious sins extend as far back as Talk:St Edward King and Confessor Catholic Church, Clifford where Sister J3MrsDoyle was kind enough to chastise me for even more heinous crimes of the copy-vio flesh. But what I could never get me head round was the fact that she copied all the copy-vio original all over the Talk Page. I feel your miraculous hand of redaction may need to pass over that region (including all those copy-vio diffs). For the good of holy Wikipedia. It was only 2 years ago, sob. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, James, one section above I said the same thing to M*you are not supposed to use the same wording. Use your synonyms. Change the order of the sentence... This discussion above is more like general tendencies all over the place. ... Hafspajen (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Like half of the Christmas article deleted and so
 * Martin, I am NOT complaining about that article. Haven't read it. Hafspajen (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * My advice: complain first, read later. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:19, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If I make the mistake – that you dared to tell me – would give me sincerer honor – toward you –
 * "Emily?! Is that you?? Are you any relation!??"

By my Window have I for Scenery Just a Sea — with a Stem — If the Bird and the Farmer — deem it a "Pine" — The Opinion will serve — for them —

It has no Port, nor a "Line" — but the Jays — That split their route to the Sky — Or a Squirrel, whose giddy Peninsula May be easier reached — this way —

For Inlands — the Earth is the under side — And the upper side — is the Sun — And its Commerce — if Commerce it have — Of Spice — I infer from the Odors borne —

Of its Voice — to affirm — when the Wind is within — Can the Dumb — define the Divine? The Definition of Melody — is — That Definition is none —

It — suggests to our Faith — They — suggest to our Sight — When the latter — is put away I shall meet with Conviction I somewhere met That Immortality —

Was the Pine at my Window a "Fellow Of the Royal" Infinity? Apprehensions — are God's introductions — To be hallowed — accordingly —. Emil, yes. Hafspajen (talk) 22:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * Hafs - I urge you to re-write the above passage avoiding close paraphrasing. It appears to have been copied verbatim from a a book of Nordic Runes. I would pollock you, but you are obviously a bit dim. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't want to block you, besides, it would be inappropriate for me to do so now that you have attempted to antagonise me. The two images don't have valid fair use rationales, that doesn't mean you couldn't make a valid claim of fair use. You just need to write a valid fair use rationale for each, filling out the template with proper assertions, instead of leaving a couple of sections with "n.a.", would be sufficient. For example for File:Slim Harpo.jpg the reason it can't be replaced with free media is that it is a copyrighted cover and Hip-O Records is definitely not going to release it under a free license. NFCC criterion 1 is definitely applicable. As for the content that's been removed, you don't even need to know what it was, because if you want to add any info to the article, it shouldn't be copied from somewhere else anyway. The content removed from Dave Lawson was copied from, the first sentence verbatim, the second sentence with very little change, the third sentence verbatim and the fourth with "RAF" added before the word "service". Unfortunately it's not even ironic. Mr Lawson probably doesn't understand the implications of his content being on Wikipedia and, unless he explicitly stated that he releases it into the public domain or under a free license, it's insufficient. You can read more about why here. I ask once again for you to avoid close paraphrasing as it is still violating the copyright of the author. Read the page, it gives a walkthrough of how to avoid it. As for the church in Clifford, I will delete the offending revisions from the history of the article, the talk page is fine because it is quoting for the sake of comparison, which requires the exact wording for that comparison and the quotes are attributed to the author. James086 Talk  03:52, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I forgot to mention, now that the two images aren't used in any articles they are eligible for deletion under WP:CSD and someone will tag them as such (it typically happens within 24 hours as the database report refreshes). Adding them back to the articles will save them. James086 Talk  03:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah right, you could block me, but it's "inappropriate" because I don't like your Talk Page. I can easily say I like it, if you prefer. Your replies are very informative and wholly discouraging. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * "Dave was educated at Lyndhurst, Charterhouse and Tonbridge, where he received his first formal music training." - did I actually copy that sentence in verbatim? I see that the article now has no details of his education at all. That's the sort of material I see as a simple set facts that cannot easily be paraphrased. And easily added with useful links. I guess it's just easier to delete material, than to re-write it, and then to point out who is to blame. I don't find being threatened with a block particularly encouraging. It sometimes looks more like a punishment for being naughty. I would suggest that "paraphrasing" and "close paraphrasing" can be a grey area. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I checked again, you copied it, but changed the first word from "Dave" to "Lawson", otherwise the same. Having no article is better than have a copyright infringement so the lack of information about his education is simply down to nobody adding it in a valid manner. There is plenty of really good information lacking from Wikipedia that could be copy/pasted in, I would delete that too, as would any admin. Here is an alternative wording for that first paragraph of that did not take long to come up with:
 * Lawson studied music first at Lyndhurst, Charterhouse and Tonbridge, then primarily studied piano through private tuition under Stan Tracey while enlisted in the Royal Air Force. He served for five years in the RAF School of Music where he studied flute, soprano saxophone and clarinet. Upon finishing his RAF service he continued to study piano with Tracey.
 * You may copy that from here to the article if you wish because it is freely licensed, I already appear in the article history; required for attribution under the CC license. That paragraph includes the facts, in a logical order and worded significantly differently to the source material. It is usually easier to delete material than to rewrite it (although not always) but I am under no obligation to rewrite the infringing text, deletion is a sufficient fix. However, you are obliged not to add copyrighted material to Wikipedia. James086 Talk  17:06, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello again James. That's very good of you to suggest an alternative wording which, of course looks fine. I find that a lot of material on Wikipedia, which seems to have been re-written by an editor to avoid copy-vio, is hideously awkward and contrived. I'm sure that you can see things from my perspective too, where the illegal edits I made have been redacted and so no longer visible to me. I can see why this is necessary, for legal reasons, but it is obviously an inequitable and inefficient way of editing, and for encouraging better editing. Ideally, I guess, infringements would be automatically reported back to an editor's Talk Page, similar to bracket-bot and disambiguation-bot.
 * I also realise that in your role of copyright policeman you don't have time to go around correcting everyone's copyright infringements. And nor should you. I also realise that the sheer volume of work you undertake means that you may sometimes appear to have a rather curt and direct tone.
 * I fully realise Wikipedia's obligations with regard to copyright and have not wilfully disregarded them intentionally. As I tried to explain, I seem to have a particular problem with what appears to me to be simple facts. In that context, I did not find your suggestion that I would be blocked particularly helpful. But thank you for taking the time to come back and provide practical suggestions. I won't be creating any new articles for a while, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Mark Menzies
My mistake, he has resigned from a ministerial age following allegations in the Mirror and Sun (I think), at first I thought he resigned as an MP, but hasn't. M G (talk) 00:06, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * How old does one have to be? He's not the only one who's thinking of resigning. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * 2008 at the University of Minnesota, and was able to blow out candles at 180 ft . [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am12NZwr3Fk&amp;feature=related Erbert and Gerberts Candle


 * How lovely. But watch out King Frog, or you'll get the wind treatment....  "...you make life a fairy tale - Grimm!"


 * Walk,.
 * An early inspiration for Julie Walters' wonderful Two Soups there, I think. :)

A nice bunch?
Happy "Mothas" Day (dude). Martinevans123 (talk) 13:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive IP
Hi Martin. Re the edit on Colin Ireland, have a look at the IP's talk page where I've just posted a message that should explain the reason for my apparently unwarranted revert. The SPI page linked from there explains a bit more too. No problem with your re-addition of the info, of course. HTH, —S MALL  JIM   14:27, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, Sj. I was a bit baffled. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

RE: O Little Town
Oh yes, it says Surrey in the article, doesn't it? Good spot, Nailsworth Gloucestershire is definitely correct. Thanks. Rob (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Blocks all round?

 * "They've got womanly breasts under pale mauve vests,
 * Shoes like dead pigs' noses,
 * Cornflake packet jacket, catalogue trousers,
 * A mouth what never closes."
 * Please, Mr. Admin-robot, don't be a Blockhead.


 * Oi! Oi! ... Cornflake packet jacket, catalogue trousers, A mouth what never closes...
 * Their shapeless haircuts don't enhance, Their ghastly patterned shirts..  (allegedly)

"I'm a tail dragger, I wipe out my tracks"
 * What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back? A stick!
 * I couldn't quite remember how to throw a boomerang, but eventually it came back to me.Boing


 * The other day I held the door open for a clown. I thought it was a nice jester.clown

A barnstar for you!
This is a serious disagreement. Hafspajen (talk) 19:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Bible punching heavyweight
 * evangelistic boxing kangaroo
 * Orangutang and anaconda
 * Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse
 * even Pluto too

Hafspajen (talk) 21:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Now this is what Eurovision is really all about - no song entry - no country!! ...simple as Tingeling!!
 * ah evangelistic boxing kangaroo - this is wonderful
 * Orangutang and anaconda


 * Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse Hafspajen (talk) 22:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ' ' ' '*


 * 
 * Marty, don't tell me you like this ny ministyle font? Hafspajen (talk) 23:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, ok - "I don't like it". But just like the infamous ORANGE BAR OF DOOM, the removal of which was the worse thing that ever happened at wikipedia, I'm already beginning to like the new version. For things like this there should be a vote, not just "consensus" but a real vote. Guess it's too much bother. In my experience wiki editors tend to be quite "conservative" with a small (sans serif) a. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That depends what you see. And how. I don't know what you are looking at right now, and what you see - but it was what I saw, see here - and it was no good. Don't tell me that this was pleasant, because I will not belive it. Hafspajen (talk) 10:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Who knows what we each see. Commonality is, of course, illusory. But it's always nice to see some healthy discussion, isn't it. Martin Heid Gravedigger (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Marty, you always succed to draw all discussios into the area of philosophy. Hafspajen (talk) 12:23, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * "Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar, Who could think you under the table". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:28, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's delete Ludwig Wittgenstein, speeeedily... Marty your talk page is longer than 100... Hafspajen (talk) 15:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Gosh, is it really?!! I can't think how I have accumulated so much rubbish!
 * "According to Wittgenstein, philosophical problems arise when language is forced from its proper home into a metaphysical environment..."

Ta!

 * How truly touching. I shall treasure it always. Who needs smelly old Norwegian sheep cheese, when one has the glorious riches of odiferous Orinetal bean curd?! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

New Boots and Panties!!
Hello Martin, I can see that you have an interest in the New Boots and Panties!! article. :-) I hope you don't feel I've been treading on your toes with my edits – I'm just trying to organise the article along the lines of the Wikipedia album article style guide, with the objective of getting it up to good article status at some point. I'd like to get as many as possible of the classic British punk/postpunk/new wave/synthpop albums from 1977 to 1985 up to (or at least close to) GA status, as this is obviously a musical time and place that Wikipedia doesn't cover very well at all, as it's hard to get hold of a lot of the original articles, interviews and reviews.

I must admit I'm not entirely sure about using block quotes in the album review section, but maybe that's just my personal preference – if the article ever goes up for GA nomination we'll see what the other reviewers think. When I'm back in the UK over the summer I'll try and head down to the British Library and dig out the original reviews of the album from the music press, at least to try and put critics' names and dates to the reviews. I should also get hold of the Ian Dury biographies at some point so the references can be more accurately quoted with page numbers, etc. Cheers. Richard3120 (talk) 17:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


 * It's only one of the greatest albums every recorded. But not at all, those block quotes were only an idea as the quotes were so long. By all means do anything that will help for GA status. Did someone mention twenty tiny toes?
 * "I know a lovely old toe-rag obliging and noblesse
 * Kindly, charming shag from Shoeburyness." !! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

A pie for you!

 * Whoever the Nectarines were, they deserve another chance. But thanks anyway. I'll save that for later. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you!



 * nah, enjoying a bit of spring weather, for a change, but thanks for the cookie


 * Happiness.

I blame the barber. Hafspajen (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I blame the deleters. Hafspajen (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Martinevans vake up. you are no chador -man. Hafspajen (talk) 21:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorrow
Sorrow If trying to cheer you up is antagonising, I antagonise cheers by repeated sorrow, in the uncomfortable position. Should I add your name to those on top of my talk? - My position is Trotz, I mean singing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * My dearest Gerda. Trotz dem alten Drachen is the very best way to be. Don't worry, am just in a mood. I will no doubt be back, if only sporadically, whether I ever find that nice warm public library or not. Yours, Jonathan not so Swift. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:54, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Did you see the contemplation about the men leaving and we women have to do the work? (found in my affair with the bracketbot) - I will have to write on the motet also, eventually, the repetition of Trotz needs coverage ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Gosh, that cheeky BracketBot gets everywhere!! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, with a rose ;) - get jealous and help me weinen, klagen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Curing schizophrenia by x-raying ovaries
You added a statement in June 2013 to Princess Alice of Battenberg that Sigmund Freud recommended x-raying Alice's ovaries to suppress her libido. Was this recommendation acted upon? — O'Dea (talk) 04:25, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi O'Dea. I certainly wasn't there at the time, but I'll try and find out! Martinevans123 (talk) 06:39, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's the source. Cohen does not tell us. But it would appear that the suggestion was not acted upon, the Princess preferring instead to "wander round Europe incognito." Martinevans123 (talk) 07:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for digging out the source. From the way the citation was coded in the article, I was under the impression it was not available online, which is why I asked you. The question of whether Freud's advice was acted upon is not directly answered by the text but, like you, I am inclined to infer that it was not. It is hair-raising to think that this august "Father of Psychoanalysis" was dishing out such alarming advice, and according to the article, that another shrink, René Laforgue, told Princess Marie that she was frigid because her mind was too masculine. These characters had barely evolved beyond the barber-surgeon stage. Pass me those leeches, would you? — O'Dea (talk) 11:12, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, all a bit surprising since x-rays were hardly "new technology" by the end of the 1920s. But fear not, my good man, we have no need of leeches here! Sigmund could burn off such pests with his very large cigar!! And, besides, we should all note that this guy also had quite a large beard. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

You're So Vain
What did I do wrong referencing the Howard Stern Show and why is mine different from reference [13] to an NBC show on that page? Thanks. Tsunami3 (talk) 18:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Tsunami - I don't doubt your sincerity or your accuracy. I'm guessing it's the right channel, the right show, the right episode... it's just that there's no content in that link. We just have to take your word for it - that you heard it correctly! It's a bit of original research - and would still be even if you made a transcription of the show and published it. What we really need is a link to a recording of the show or some kind of printed evidence. I'm sure there are thousands of sources like this all over Wikipedia. Sorry to be so picky. And I might be wrong - feel free to ask around. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Death by unusual fruit...
It seems that "I've got a lovely bunch of unusual deaths.."
 * Or, to paraphrase "The Kid": "Oh Annie! He WAS your Daddy!"
 * Yours, "PaleCocoMilk"


 * Let's all sing along now, boys and girls:, , !!!


 * ... and let's have this one shall we, PaleyCoco?


 * Yes, folks ... it's the FrddyMartin123 show!!


 * This might come in handy (but it could do with an ENGVAR tweak...) "PaleyCoco"


 * Right! Let's see something DECENT... and MILITARY!! ... ... I Should Coco!!

List of deaths in rock and roll
I'm trying to coordinate discussion on criteria for inclusion, on the article talk page. You may like to contribute. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Pretty straightforward, I would have thought. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:34, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Solomon Snow
The Solomon Snow audiobook appears to go under the title of The Silver Spoon of Solomon Snow so I would suggest this is the more appropriate title to use in the people's poet's audiobook section. Longwayround (talk) 12:03, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No problems, quite agree. Thanks for telling me. I guess it should also be corrected at Kaye Umansky? ... he'll always be that fine investigative reporter to me ! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The printed book seems (mostly) to go under the title you gave it and which appears at Kaye Umansky so I'd not worry about it. Longwayround (talk) 13:20, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

It's your lucky day!

 * What a load of bull!! But I am deeply mooooved. Really hits the spot Martinevans123 (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Moving and inspirational...the COWSTAR reminds us all how important our contributions are.--MONGO 16:36, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

... Ah yes, see how impressed I am!
 * Indeed one needs at least a four-chambered stomach to deal with even the saner elements at our noticeboards. Our COWSTAR maiden is fortunate to never have a portion of her wind up as a seafood appetizer....but that didn't stop Bishzilla from eating her cowstar whole! --MONGO 17:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * arhh, does one ever find pearls, I wonder...? jeez, the greedy cow!! (... sorry Bish, only kidding)


 * RIP Rik ... what Wikipedia is all about, in so many ways:

danny Cohen opinion in lede
I know the instinct is to praise someone after they have died but Rik Mayall wasnt universally loved. Plus the link doesn't appear to have the quote: "a "truly brilliant" comedian with a unique stage presence, whose "fireball creativity" and approach to sitcom had inspired a generation of comedy stars.[1]"

The actual website says: ''"BBC director of television Danny Cohen said Mayall was "a truly brilliant comedian". "His comic timing was outstanding and his screen presence unique. For a generation of viewers he was a true comedy hero."'' Tremello (talk) 10:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Tremello. Yes, obituary praise can be a bit over-the-top, can't it. And the text should accurately reflect whatever Cohen said, no question of that. But this guy is Director of BBC Television. This may not make him a good critic of contemporary comedy, but it does mean his comments about popular entertainment are notable. If there are negative comments about Mayall, by all means propose them for inclusion. But if you really think Cohen's remark does not belong in the article, I think you'll need to raise that at the Talk Page. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC) p.s. I've already been sent three "thanks" for my revert. gloat, gloat...!

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 * Philips singing the operatic introduction, fronted the group, which then went on to record an album. Throughout his life, Spiro wrote many other football songs, recorded by major teams,


 * Tooo lateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not French. Hafspajen (talk) 19:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure I can't tempt you with just "a leedle waffer-theen meent"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure I can't tempt you with just "a leedle" File:Pelophylax ridibundus JdP 2013-06-16.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "But, it's too late, to hesitate..." Martinevans123 (talk) 18:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, 100 years ago everything was much easier, you know....


 * Oh, 1000 years ago everything was much easier, you know.... Martinevans123 (talk) 19:02, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * 2000 years ago, things were brilliantly easy. You just got crucifyed with the drop of a hat, right... ? m
 * I don't think he even wore a hat.... and these days blessed are the cheesmakers. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hat? well. This maybe? or this? Hm, what crazy articles we have, look at this, Dunce capHafspajen (talk) 20:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * How wrong could I be. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)File:"Venus" the bulldog mascot of the destroyer HMS VANSITTART, 1941. A3998.jpg
 * Hahahahaha, worst joke... “wearing the pileus”, which was the “cap or badge of a manumitted slave,” ...Ha! Hafspajen (talk) 20:43, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * well, maybe Operation Cat Drop than... Hafspajen (talk) 21:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)You wouldnt like him when hes angry (4044962869).jpg?]]
 * How incredible. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:12, 15 June 2014 (UTC)




 * How incredible. Peculiar. Hafspajen (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I always suspected you speak Scandinavian languages... How on earth did you knew of Gröna Hund? Hafspajen (talk) 13:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Am an avid follower of Swedish literature haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC) ... and a big fan of Shakin' Stevens, of course...

I know about the LBP Word Filter from experience.
Why do I need to cite about the word filter from LBP? It censored computer, filtering, happened, skyscraper, analogue, Uranus, homosexuality, even queue, even though there is something called a Queue in LBP. I didn't citate to any persons or websites, I know from experience with the soon to be trilogy of LBP. So why undo my edit? It's within the topic, right? 68.51.28.219 (talk) 22:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Salt? Hafspajen (talk) 22:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Um, which edit of yours did I undo? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you, "in the event" was exactly the phrase I was searching for but I had a mental block and couldn't think of it! Richard3120 (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, no worries. Not totally convinced myself, as it was a kind of "non event"! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC) ... I often get a mental block!

Apologies
Apologies for the inadvertent collateral damage to your edits here; you apparently started editing just after I started my reversion to get rid of the "rabbit" stuff, and for whatever reason the system didn't give me an edit conflict warning. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, these things often happen. Only a small edit - was just trying to tidy up. But a bit odd also as my dab link on the film was retained!? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Marty
? Hafspajen (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's me I'm afraid. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What's up? Lost something? Or just desperation? Hafspajen (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, of course. Just watching an underwater replay of that excellent second goal by Luis Suárez. sob. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:15, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Cry Me a River ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:21, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Good old Gerry. Yes, only another four years, Uncle Woy. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Image:Jack and the Beanstalk Giant - Project Gutenberg eText 17034.jpg| "Fee-fi-fo-fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman" ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, as usual, of course, I am being deeply ironic. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OH- la-lal-la... Hafspajen (talk) 17:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Much prefer this ska!! variety!! Thanks. "The Millie Small TV Show on Finnish Television 1964"
 * rocking...

Summer Solstice corner
One of my favourite albums. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:10, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Awwww, why thank you. Can't resist posting a video, for the mesmerising Cornish chanteuse Brenda Wootton, that features Joseph Noel Paton's Oberon and the Mermaid: ! (see Mermaid of Zennor) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Wnat does mean : Lleucu Llwyd. Bryn Fon yn y Pafiliwn? . Hafspajen (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * or even Llywelyn Goch ap Meurig Hen. The performer is Bryn Fon... "yn y Pafiliwn" (he was) "in the Pavilion" (at the 2008 Eisteddfod) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, Pafiliwn? Could have guessed that one ... To much Nightwalking ... Hafspajen (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Who won? I am nervous... Hafspajen (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Who knows. But it's not the ".. talking out of their sad Corinthian arses ...??

......better to have played and lost than never to have played... well. Hafspajen (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * indeed. ...
 * hahahahaha, wow she is one hot chick!
 * ....you mean : don't be such a 'Filly Loo'  means don't be a horse-shit?

Hello
Hi Ceoil (talk) 20:26, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * yo. Wow... South Korea - Algeria, what a game!! 2-4!! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:31, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry man, no idea or interest in sport. Nick Drakish. Thinking you might like. Ceoil (talk) 20:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, no worries. Just enjoying the party. Yes, it is - Very nice. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Cooling breaks
Sorry I prematurely undid your change to the 2014 FIFA World Cup section. I read it too fast and thought you removed it altogether. I still think stating the temperature at the start of the game (which is below 32°) appears to be a contradiction of the rule and think it's important to state the criteria that went into making the decision. I also thin the AP article is overstating the the fact the the breaks are "supposed to occur in the 30th and 75th minutes". The way I read your FIFA sourced article, the breaks could take place "anytime after" the 30th and 75th minute. I'm still looking for a better source that will include all of this information. Hoof Hearted (talk) 14:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I agree we seem to have a contradiction there and a better source would be ideal. I think these might be a good idea at Wikipedia! ... wet bulbs, anyone? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This article indicates the half time temperature was 27°C. It appears everybody is reporting on the air temperature, not the WBGT.  Hmmm...  Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's always warmer over there. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * :-) According to the chart in this article, the conditions at the beginning of the match (30°C, 66% relative humidity) correlate to a WBGT of at least 32°.  I'd still like to know the conditions right at 39', but I think I can rest easy that we didn't uncover another conspiracy.  It may be considered OR to put this source in the article though - best to wait and see if a proper source will document it.  Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Very wise. I hear it's also quite warm in some parts of Africa at the moment. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:52, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Emails received
Hi, I got your second email - I had already unconsciously edited the first in my mind to match what the second one says. -- Red rose64 (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me. I admire your patience (not least with my spelling!). Yours in the trophy cabinet, Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

A new Wikilove message



 * Am "deeply touched" - looking forward to getting the Johnson.


 * "Och, Jimmy, ta very much fo tha Commotion Lotion, the noo"

Naz-Psy? 
 * .. sorry, Hafs, I managed only 19 hours...


 * ... mmmm, catchy

Consolation. 

ITN credit
ThaddeusB (talk) 04:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Christ, it's like pulling teeth with this bunch
and see. EEng (talk) 12:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was just think of running an RfA, too. Anyone got any lemon juice handy? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: lets his "assistant" do the actual extraction. Owch. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Luis Suárez
So you think the important information, showing at this is not the first time Luis Suárez has bit another player is not relevant because I think it's pretty damn relevant showing the seriousness of the incident and to show it has happened before and if this (insert expletive here) is aloud to carry on he will do it again. Lukejordan02 (talk) 18:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * This is the 2014 FIFA World Cup, not the 2014 Luis Suárez World Cup. You have an enormous WP:SOAP problem. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Bullshit, Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a martinevans123 doesn't think this should be written website. Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:03, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it's a fact. It's FIFA. I checked. But why not raise your concern at the article Talk Page, where it belongs. Please don't be uncivil again or I'll open a case at WP:ANI. Cheers! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Martin, don't WP:BITE the newcomers. EEng (talk) 19:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. It had to happen. Did you pay Luke to set that one up?! Or do you have a vested interest? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't pay Luke. I robbed Peter to pay Paul. EEng (talk) 19:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Peter? Paul? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:32, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I apologise, I'm having a bad day it is not you fault, I have reworded the sentence, could you check it and tell me what you think? Thanks.
 * Not as bad a day as Suarez had yesterday. No worries. Hope there's no blood on your shirt. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well he did bring it on himself didn't he? Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. And seems he's had a bit of practice. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, I think he should be banned for 2 years full stop not just from International Football, after all the other 2 incidents were Club matches. Then after the two years he should be made to play wearing a muzzle. Sorry again for losing my cool. Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah, just give him 10 minutes in a proper game. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And he is to be warmly congratulated, of course. The dramatic tooth antics of "El Hombre Lobo Loco" meant that the ritual savaging post-mortem by St Gary and crew was limited to a mere ten minutes. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of Bracketbot
User:EEng EEng (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha. Almost beats Hafspagen's grotesque Swedish "toad porn". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:49, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * 35 yrs as a computer engineer and that's what I've got to show for it. EEng (talk) 23:56, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Twenty years of schoolin' and they put you on the day shift. Sca (talk) 17:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You don’t need a weatherman, To know which way the wind blows. Yes, still my favourite Dylan musical poem... well, kinda anyhow! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC) p.s. but thanks, I was just really just doodlin'

wiki grind

 * Now don't be so filthy! owch!! sizzlin'!! this is just the biz...... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Not canvassing here
...because you and I don't always agree on such things, but an intelligent additional opinion could be helpful at Template:Did you know nominations/Nossa Senhora da Graça incident. EEng (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ..goodness me, I am flattered. I'll have to check my bowels in preparation. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Try the Sylvester_Graham. EEng (talk) 18:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I thought you said I'm flatulent . Carry on. EEng (talk) 18:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * "omf g ". I think I'll stick to my python diet, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've struck your blasphemy to prevent trouble. EEng (talk) 19:07, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * wait for it.... Martinevans123 (talk) 19:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Um... nothing seems to happen. Is that like one of those highbrow canvasses with nothing on it? EEng (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * what?? nothing??!! I get epileptic scrolling colours, animated dogs, music....the whole schebang... in fact, it's quite nauseous!? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Nothing. Did you pay the bill? EEng (talk) 21:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC) P.S. Hey, would it be too much to ask you to comment at 3family6_made_me_do_it on TDYK?
 * It's the server, or your graphics card vectoring, or your rendering, or your pixel rendition, or something... Yes, far too much, alas. But here's Johnny Painter to explain Rothko more fully.... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the matter-antimatter mixing board is unbalanced, Cap'n. EEng (talk) 00:45, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * yes, I'd often wondered about that. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Andrzej Panufnik
photo was taken in September 1990 at the Filharmonia Narodowa in Warsaw. Photographer unknown, photo in general circulation in Poland. Camilla Panufnik (talk) 06:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC) Camilla Panufnik (talk) 06:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Damn!
Ok, fixed that but had to revert to the redirect. I don't want to block anyone over this but obviously one editor was edit-warring after I warned him - and how did a new account end up there? Dougweller (talk) 12:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Like I said - very spooky. It's all smoke and Kosyrev mirrors, haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

.-.
Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The name of the pub is VICTORY; now how are your bells working today??? Hafspajen (talk) 18:29, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

.And is this a joke, or just vandalism? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dachshund&curid=8518&diff=615289344&oldid=614459649 or it is meant seriously... ] Hafspajen (talk) 14:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Um, canine spam, I think, awww. But probably meant with a deeply felt affection. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Vivian Maier
Hi Martinevans123, thanks for liking material I've contributed to Vivian Maier. I've just reverted an edit made by another editor on this page, and I've initiated a discussion on Maier Talk page. Your opinion would be welcomed. Best, Mick gold (talk) 17:24, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me. I can only apologise that you find yourself trapped between a pub and a non-Swedish camel. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:25, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It could be worse... <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:45, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Museum_of_Unintentionally_Hilarious_Edit_Outcomes
[] EEng (talk) 22:29, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, bless you. What a lovely gesture that is, "thumbing your nose" as they call it in Chicago, I believe Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, blow it out yer arse! EEng (talk) 22:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "If only I could, Dr. Young." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

By popular demand
EEng (talk) 19:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Where are you going
Hafspajen (talk) 00:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)


 * To the insurance broker naturally:
 * "Elvis's beloved teddy bear Mabel was made in 1909 by the German manufacturer Steiff. It was on display at a children's museum near Wookey Hole Caves near Wells, England, when Barney, a Doberman Pinscher guard dog went wild and destroyed it and damaged about 100 other valuable stuffed animals in the summer of 2006. The insurance company had insisted that the valuable teddy bears be protected by guard dogs." - Colonel "Nosey" Parker.

St John the Evangelist's Church, Kirkham
Made it at last! I've never been involved in such a complex process to get a DYK promoted before. Congrats for all the hard work you did towards it. Too much OR IMO. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:39, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. You did the important bit! Found it fascinating and frustraring in equal measure. But The Willows never looked so tasty. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:27, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Bartók and referencing styles
Hi Martinevans123. In response to your recent edit summary on the article Béla Bartók, I really have no idea of the number of articles that use parenthetical referencing (I assume your question is directed at this general style, rather than the particular dialect of it found in the Bartók article). Certainly not as many as those using either of the other two main classes of references (full footnotes and shortened footnotes), but a substantial number, especially on 20th-century-music and music-theory topics. A few important articles in these areas using parenthetical referencing are Tonality, Atonality, Timbre, Mode (music), Serialism, Neoclassicism (music), Musique concrète, Experimental music, New Simplicity; Milton Babbitt, Frank Bridge, Mauricio Kagel, Luigi Nono, Arnold Schoenberg, Karlheinz Stockhausen; Antony and Cleopatra (opera), Capricorn Concerto, Klang (Stockhausen) (and most of the other articles on specific works by this composer), Le marteau sans maître, Octet (Stravinsky), Piano sonatas (Boulez), List of string quartets by Béla Bartók, Symphony No. 3 (Harris), Symphony No. 1 (Davies) (and the other nine Davies Symphony articles), Quatre études de rythme, Wind Quintet (Schoenberg).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the useful information. It's surprising there is such a split through the project. Nearly every article I have ever edited - an I've edited quite a few - uses and a References section - I guess that's why we've got those short cuts at the bottom of the edit screen. Do you know what the logic is, if any, behind this split? I had fallen into the habit of adding bare urls and then converting with Reflinks. But now that the tools have disappeared, it's not so easy. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It is my understanding that the "split" (actually, "atomization" would be a better word, since literally thousands of different referencing styles are involved, not just the three broadest categories) came about because of an inability for editors to reach consensus on a uniform referencing format for Wikipedia. The core document is at WP:CITEVAR, but the vitriolic discussion of the subject goes back many years, and I have not read anywhere near all of it.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 07:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What a surprise! A vitriolic and unresolved discussion at Wikipedia! Haha. I would never have guessed. But sorry to put you to the bother of tidying the refs I added. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * From personal experience I can tell you that at Harvard it's not called "Harvard Style" but rather Yale Style. At Yale they call it Princeton Style, and at Princeton it's called Cambridge Style, unless it has the Oxford Comma... EEng (talk) 13:20, 5 July 2014 (UTC) Disclosure notice: recycled joke. .....Disclosure notice: recycled editor. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:35, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No probs about tidying refs. I do this constantly, because I am a bit of a fanatic about uniformity of ref formats (within an article). Although I do not have the benefit of an Ivy League education, I am aware of the fact that Harvard washes their hands of this class of citation styles (there are actually five or six major styles of parenthetical referencing, and probably a dozen more minor variants), though I did not know about Yale and Princeton's positions on the subject. To me it seems best to use the neutral and descriptive "parenthetical referencing" for the broader category, though for the more specific variant found in the Bartók article (which includes the format used in the list of sources, as well as the inline citations) it may be designated "Chicago style", or even more specifically, "Style B of the Chicago Manual of Style".—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's my kind of style, Chicago is! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Everyone bear in mind that ME123 never gives a straight answer to anything. He speaks only in riddles. EEng (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * gee, thanks Engie.... awwwww Martinevans123 (talk) 21:13, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you know what they say about the "Melsh" language - to some it's richly poetic and lyrical, to others it's like someone sneezed while typing... WailShroudedNight  (PS Some may find it reassuring to know that "Wikipedia is one of those odd organizations that everyone knows - but no one understands")
 * Apparently, Wikipedia is "the sixth most visited site on earth." But that's just "on earth." of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC) Handy health and safety link for those of you who are typing in Welsh: . Martinevans123 (talk) 19:16, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Martinevans123 relaxes at home between wiki edits:. Some political and cultural history that may be a useful source for all those Welsh articles folks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:36, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * They have internet on the Space Station, Mr. Smartypants. Speaking of Welsh . EEng (talk) 19:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I guess it's the eighth most visited site up there, after Betfred and Pizza Hut. One of my favourite Welsh road signs, that one. But here's a nice collection:  DYK beckons?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:55, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I've been told that in order to speak Welsh properly, one has to get one's lips in the correct position... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:04, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Bring on the botox: . Martinevans123 (talk) 20:16, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * Now just look here, Bot! I've never ever been to the Jazz Hall of Fame. And even if I had I'd never admit to it. And yes it was unintended, ok?! Give a guy a break why don't cha! Jeeeeeeeez. Sorry, I mean Jaaaaaaaaaz. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Mmmm, nice hat there, Hafs. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:53, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You're nothing if not ambiguous. EEng (talk) 00:44, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Wit is a form of intellectual humour. A wit is someone skilled in making witty remarks. A witty remark is an incisive observation, put with humor and said in the perfect moment, Martwitevans123. Hafspajen (talk) 04:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm low on cash so they say I can only afford a half-wit. Can you tell me something about that? EEng (talk) 19:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "The glass is always half full even when it's upside down". - Ian Parsons

Tommy, John Lennon and Portsmouth (and a coincidence with Rolf Harris)
One of the pieces of trivia about Tommy is that John Lennon has a cameo role in it. Some people have insisted that he is an occupant of one of the cars in I'm Free (YouTube video here, screenshot of 1:36 here). On closer examination it probably isn't him, but more importantly, Lennon is not known to have left the USA during the early 1970s, as he was worried that if he did, he would not be granted a visa to get back in again. Lennon was finally granted a Green card in 1976. The seaside and holiday camp scenes in Tommy were filmed in the Portsmouth area in the summer of 1974. It is almost inconceivable that Lennon could have turned up on the set of the film with no-one remembering it. See also Talk:Tommy_(1975_film).-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 11:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Next time I watch Tommy, I'll be sure to look out for the Leigh Park Community Centre! Apparently Leigh Park was awarded the "Worst Place to Live in Britain" award a while back. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:57, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Sourcing here. I've only ever been to Portsmouth once, and saw the HMS Victory. Leigh Park sounds like a typical post-WW2 housing estate, built quickly and even the muggers going round in twos. But did Rolf Harris ever go there? Watch this space.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 13:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

If GabeMc hadn't retired, I could have pulled him in here and got him to dig out at least three reliable sources that stated Lennon left for New York in 1971 and never returned to Britain. Yoko was not a fan of the place and resented the hostility towards her (mind you, if you released Unfinished Music No. 1: Two Virgins - what the hell did you expect?) <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:45, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * "Hey, man, peace, man! That ain't no bell-end, dude, that's my wife!" Martinevans123 (talk) 13:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Away in a manager
EEng (talk) 22:47, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll pass on the good news to Amandajm. "He was buried at the Calvary Cemetery in Woodside, Queens, New York." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:51, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And the trumpet will sound! EEng (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And the trumpet will sound - I wrote that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

EEng (talk) 23:22, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Shortages were noticed in 2011. I took the bird that appeared then to more than 10k viewers although it is "invisible", drumming to the German Main page, in memory of the missing author whose departure I commented on DYK screaming (... that Martin Luther's chorale Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir (From deep affliction I cry out to you) was sung at his own funeral?) and for/of whom I wrote He was despised (the first of too many). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Mmm? or cleft infinitive. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 09:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Now you Germans have got something to really crow about. Not much gets past that "DYK-Man-mountain" that is The Rambling Man. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 7 : 1
 * Haha. Sorry I meant "You Germans now really something to crow about have got"! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * (ec) My bird drums tok-tok-tok. I screamed only once. No problems on DYK, will write the next one shortly, was the last red link here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of unmentionables
EEng (talk) 14:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How frightfully distasteful. You're better off sticking to those parts you're more expert in. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Orange county
As close I can get... Hafspajen (talk) 19:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 
 * People in 1900 must have had really good eyesight. EEng (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC)



For the record...
I do prefer base calumny to the baseless kind, so thanks. BTW see for today's daily dose. EEng (talk) 06:27, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "I didn't get where I am today, Reggie, without plenty of cold showers and chocolates on pillows!" CJ123 (Sunshine Desserts) 08:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps he wore it with a touch of irony

 * EEng (talk) 22:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Oooo, lucky old C. T. Loo! I'd simply die for a pair of beige crimplene* leisure slacks. Plastic Bertrand (exclusively managed by: Lionel Vinyl) 07:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC) (*DYK - named after the Crimple Valley, near Harrogate).


 * EEng (talk) 08:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Sticks in your craw
EEng (talk) 08:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Carry-on-DYK sounds just fine to me. Can we have an appropriate audio link automatically enabled? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:25, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's always been a mystery to me how it could be that the same nation produced both Monty Python and Benny Hill. EEng (talk) 10:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There are claims that The Benny Hill Show was in fact secretly funded by a neighbouring government, but this seems unlikely. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Effects of postwar rationing
EEng (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 'ee lad, 'appen them rich soothern lads get all the best nosh. 'E were right healthy lookin', compaired wi' us poor boogers int' North, baaah 'eck! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Not that there's anything wrong with that...
EEng (talk) 11:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sure they were all very openly metrosexual, even in those days. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Uh oh EEng (talk) 12:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Kemistry
You are right in that the source names Kemistry. Unfortunately the article quoted uses our article as a source, creating a circular sourcing problem. I did not question the "unusual death" element of the article. Britmax (talk) 09:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Circularity is certainly a vaid reason for removal. But I'd be quite amazed if another source couldn't be found. In fact, I'd be interested to see details of any other death caused by a catseye worldwide. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Nice clothing
Ah, Marty check this out... ... Hafspajen (talk) 22:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ooohh!!

nice clothing - eh? liked the one with the silver stripes and the pink flowered shorts too. Hafspajen (talk) 22:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, of course, I'm more of a "pastel twin-set and pearls" man, myself, but I see what you mean. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)



Why don't you stop wasting your time on Flight 17
...and come back and waste your time at DYK? The atmosphere is getting pretty heavy there, so we could use some leavening levity. EEng (talk) 02:18, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 
 * 


 * A fair question, I'm sure. As may have seen, the crash site was recently secured by the official monitors, but now it seems the insurgents have taken over again. What was it that PM Tony Abbo said? something about "lunatics taking over the asylum"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

...let it go...
You're forgiven. But there's little point in this conversation. As a Wikipedian, I kinda have to say, yeah, children are just people. As a father, well, children are very special people and it breaks my heart to think of these ones (and the ones in Gaza, and everywhere else). A Dutch reporter listed in de Volkskrant what all objects he found there. One object was a little notebook; the child had practiced writing "ananas" ("pineapple"). Another thing he found in a field was a little bright orange shirt with, you guessed it, graphics from the Dutch football team on it. I imagine it was a bright orange football shirt very much like the bright orange football shirt my boy was wearing when we were watching the Netherlands against Argentina. He's not even two, so he doesn't know when to cheer and for whom, but he's learning. Just humans, but special ones. Drmies (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We saw the shirts on television, draped over some twisted metal. I hope you never have to suffer the loss of a child. "... let it go", eh? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC),
 * I can't even imagine. Odd, but the orange shirts seem to be mentioned in every other Dutch newspaper article. No connection to the Orange Revolution of course, though I was kind of struck by that coincidence. Yeah. Drmies (talk) 20:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, yeah, children are just people not - children are much more vulnerable, capable of being physically or emotionally wounded or hurt - don't be crazy adults now. Hafspajen (talk) 14:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That there were a lot children belongs in the article because it apparently matters to people, as seen in the frequent mentions in sources, and quotations from people commenting on the event. However, may I suggest that for a hot-button topic like this, effort be focused on keeping inappropriate material out, and worry less about making sure all appropriate material is in. There's plenty of time to add that nuance after the crazies have departed. EEng (talk) 21:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Flight level 330
FL330 is approximately 33,000 ft above mean sea level and not exactly because it is set relative to a standard barometric pressure and is not relative to the ground. This is to ensure that all aircraft in an area agree on their altitude even though the local pressure would indicate otherwise. When an aircraft drops out of the flight levels the altimeter is set to the local pressure and indicates the actual height above Mean Sea Level. FL330 will only equal 33,000 ft above sea level when the local air pressure at sea level happens to be exactly 1013.25 hPa and, furthermore, will only equal the height above ground when a pressure is set at the airfield that causes  the altimeter to then read zero. E x nihil (talk) 12:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I came here to tell you the same. Regarding this edit, I suggest just taking out the "approximately". An issue like this, while interesting, is not worth dwelling on in this article. All measurements other than counts are inherently approximate so we don't really need to state this. --John (talk) 12:59, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So done. --John (talk) 13:04, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "FL330 will only equal 33,000 ft above sea level when the local air pressure at sea level happens to be exactly 1013.25 hPa" - no, I don't think so. Local air pressure at sea level is irrelevant when you're at 33,000 ft. But you're right about dropping out of FLs, when you do revert to local pressure. I also agree that we could leave out "approximately". Martinevans123 (talk) 13:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * My edit was to try and better match the source: . Martinevans123 (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Dorchester, Dorset
I was just editing Dorchester, Dorset and there was some kind of clash with your editing -- hope you didn't read this as "warfare"! Do you have any objections to the inclusion of the image? I just felt the page was a little drab, and Stinsford is presumably more or less a suburb of Dorchester today. But the image it isn't highly relevant to the page. Rwood128 (talk) 16:00, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, no worries. What a lovely picture - whoever could have taken that! Maybe an image of Hardy himself, or one of the others would be better? But I'm not sure Stinsford is really a suburb of Dorchester, even today. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
EEng (talk) 04:08, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * In fact he's just a bumbling and incompetent Deputy!!
 * Now get over to this DYK and round up the usual suspects. . EEng (talk) 10:19, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you know I'm a big Dylan fan, but my private illusions have now all been shattered, alas. I might have a quick look, if I can "bare" to. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Have you been to the Museum lately? User:EEng EEng (talk) 10:38, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Lol, as if. I was told, not so long ago (by a highly esteemed contributor) that I'm a "ignorant lazy bastard" who doesn't even know what a museum is. So who am I to argue. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * Utter lies. I did no such thing. And you know it! Don't be so beastly! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Bertrand Russell
Hello Martinevans123, Why have you removed my contribution? You can see the influence of Russell on Txillardegi here: Azurmendi, J. 1999: Txillardegiren saioa: hastapenen bila, Jakin, 114: 17-45. ISSN 0211-495X. Thanks (Ketxus (talk) 12:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC))
 * Hi Ketxus. I removed it as it was unsourced. I've now restored it with a source from his article. Please feel free to improve on that ref source if needs be. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

CBS
Hi Martin: ''Fine. Go ahead and remove it, John. There will be no effort on my part to return it to the article if you delete it.'' ... Brian Dell (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC) - With John being my real name (how'd he figure that out?) - I deleted it. Your version still stands and the bottom of the section. Sometimes it's best to drop the banana. Feel free to delete this comment Montenegroman (talk) 11:28, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Monty. Who was it who said "Bananas are a dish best served cold"? Ah yes, I know, it was me. Don't fret, I'm just crossing a few i's and dotting a few t's. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:10, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * Did you say bananas? Have lambananas ;) - Did you know why you should read that soprano Ada Cherry Kearton was married to wildlife photographer Cherry Kearton and recounted their travels in her autobiography On Safari? - Would you believe that a RM close of 2012 is still hotly debated (on the talk, to be precise, and I didn't have the last word ...)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes! I saw those Superlambananas in Scouserland!! But, goodness me, "a courageous and 'impossible' decision" sounds quite dramatic. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The creatures will be seen on the German Main page on 2 September - in a few minutes, - featured big on top of my talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

So the preliminary report didn't mention any "massive explosive decompression" and the Flight Data Recorder didn't show any either (page 33 of the full PDf report). Funny that. --82.198.102.128 (talk) 19:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Will be intrigued to see what Brian's response to that will be. How's life in sunny Andalucia? Anyone might think you'd retired. lol Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Early adopters
We could always call them lighthouse customers. Jus' sayin'. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:43, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Haha. Where I come from, you also get these adopters! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I seem to recall (can't remember where) somebody describing Wikipedia adoption as a cross between Dennis the Menace's father and Hannibal Lecter's defence council. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Ahahahahaha!! now that is funny! (and so true).... Martinevans123 (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

A new wing for the museum
EEng (talk) 21:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, good ol' Ben and Jerry! My favourite flavour is, of course, Malaga as served at that famous Oxford ice-cream parlour. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Tom Daley Personal Life
Hi. Just wanted to talk about Tom Daley's Personal Life entry. I noticed that you did an Undo of my edit to say "is gay". I understand that you want to make the tense of the verb agree with the fact that Tom made his statement about his sexuality in the past and so changed it back to "was gay". To me, that sounds as though he was gay in the past and isn't any more. Would you mind if I change it back to "is gay"? Marosc9 (talk) 12:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This is beginning to look like a tense discussion of the subject's sexuality. EEng (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I only get tense when I'm around Dustin. sob Martinevans123 (talk) 12:50, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Calling another editor an sob is a personal attack. EEng (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * tart!! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Who you calling a tart you poof! EEng (talk) 17:56, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * How very dare you!! Just because a man likes a few nice ostrich feathers doesn't mean he's a hardened South Wales drug-dealing money-laundering fraudster who's been on the run for three years!! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:32, 3 August 2014 (UTC) ... oh hang on, maybe it does. Darn it.
 * Half the time I have no idea what you're talking about. You do know I'm not British, right? EEng (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Only half? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That's an interesting topic, actually. Notice the mention of catalog vs. cagtalogue. The reason American libraries have catalogs is Melvil Dewey, someone every American schoolchild hears a bit about, imagining him to be a kindly gentleman librarian, which he was not:
 * Even Dewey's friends found his personality difficult, and he early in life established a pattern of making powerful enemies.[5] As one biographer put it, "Although he did not lack friends, they were weary of coming to his defense, so endless a process it had become. Another biography refers to Dewey's "old nemesis—a persistent inability to control himself around women" as an ongoing cause of trouble on the job. In 1904 the New York State Board of Regents received a petition demanding Dewey's removal as State Librarian because of his personal involvement in the Lake Placid Club's policy of excluding Jews and other religious and ethnic groups...
 * He was also a spelling reformer (thus the catalogs) and metrification zealot. Imagine what he'd be like at a dinner party. EEng (talk) 21:50, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Reformer, schmeformer. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * As usual, all roads lead to Widener. EEng (talk) 01:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Marosc9. Is this use of the "historical present tense"? I'm not sure. I'm not that bothered. Just two points - encyclopedias tend to put things in the past tense, but that's far from being a rule here. And or course since he made that statement, he might have decided that he isn't gay any, more after, all! A bit unlikely I know, but how do we know? It's Tom up there, on the 10m platform, in those tiny swim trunks, not you and me!! If you change it back I won't change it again. But you could ask for other views at the Talk Page? Thanks for asking. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

In the news
New article needed?. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Alas the truth is out at last! Obviously I have a bit of COI here. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC) p.s. need any feathers?
 * Can't keep your head in the sand... Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's no fun being on the run, on an ostrich, for three years! Although handy if one is partial to furs... and shiny boots..Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I tried months ago to alert the world to the fugitive in our midst. I thought the cops might have taken action by now, though I suppose they've always got more pressing engagements... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 17:20, 3 August 2014 (UTC) ... I demand my right to be forgotten!!
 * see Section below, Mr Paley Smarty Pants Goody Two Shoes. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I did spot this on the news last night - there was a 2 minute retrospective of what he's been up to in the last 20 years. Still, if your collar gets felt, you could always ask to play on Rolf's wobbleboard for a laugh. Now for homework, imagine what would happen if this furniture maker got into trouble and was all over the news. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm minded of that old Welsh proverb, which (very roughly) translates as ... "ostiches and kangaroos make uneasy bedfellows". But I hear the Bullingdon is rather jolly at this time of year. It's a long way from Pontarddulais to Pretoria, but a very short way back. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I notice you're not reminded, since for that you'd need to have had a mind in the first place. Anyway, my question is... Will it play in Peoria? EEng (talk) 20:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC) P.S. That also reminds me of another Welsh proverb, which (very roughly) translates as ... "Two gloves do not a hat make."
 * That's not one I've ever seen, but obviously you're going to look pretty daft with two gloves on you head. lol. One of my favourites "Cwsg gwir ar ddrain, ni chwsg anwir ar blu." Another one I've seen on the net, but which I've never seen or heard "for real" is one I might choose as the epitaph for Wikipedia: "Nid yw llwy yn gwybod y blas o gawl, na ffwl a ddysgwyd blas doethineb" or roughly "A spoon does not know the taste of soup, nor a learned fool the taste of wisdom." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Honestly, that last bit would have served us well in recent PG "debates". This link really, really needs to be linked from your user page somehow. It's just too good to go to waste. What could be more unlikely than an ostrich farm conman? EEng (talk) 17:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Another wiki epitaph: Pan fo llawer yn llywio fe sudda'r llong.  ... and people wonder why I edit so many prison articles. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * "Nid yw llwy yn gwybod y blas o gawl, na ffwl a ddysgwyd blas doethineb" Keyboard on the fritz? EEng (talk) 03:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't know Google translate was that bad. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Right to be forgotten
Hey, telepathy in action! Seriously though, I can hardly wait to see which dork this is. Do some people never learn that the Streisand effect will occur when they do this sort of thing?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I know. "A Star is Born"?... every four minutes, apparently. And I was just waiting for that quiet time on Jimbo's page before I pounced! gutted. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:33, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Dougie McDonald referee is a known problem search term. This is producing multiple instances of "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe". But will he be the star? Anyway, having read through Dougie McDonald, the controversy section could be trimmed as it is too long for a BLP of this length.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * What!? Surely that controversy really deserves its own mini article! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It is a BLP, and the controversy is getting to the stage where it is the tail that wags the dog in the article. Someone suggested on Talk:Dougie McDonald that it should be split off into a separate article. If - and it is still if at the moment - it turns out to be him, it should be split off. My guess is that Jimbo may not want to name the person because it would lead to immediate and further controversy; it's up to him. Out of the several zillion BLPs on Wikipedia, this is an educated guess about which one is causing the problem. As expected, the BLP is the top result for a search on his name.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sincere apologies (Dougie), that was meant to be a joke. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

If you thought airgonation sounded naughty...
... try vagabondage, whatever that is. EEng (talk) 01:24, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

In other news
EEng (talk) 19:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Hah! That's nothing! A guy down our chip-shop, last Thursday, was overhead saying he was considering voting Tory! (next year, probably...)

.... hmmm, "pathetic internet nerds who can't get laid and STD-infested sluts". Nice. I wonder what Hitler Club (UK) have to say about same sex inter-racial relationships!?

Wait... I pasted the wrong link. Try this EEng (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

"Don't be stupid, be a smarty - come and join the Nancy Party!!" Martinevans123 (talk) 07:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Dispute resolution notice RE:Retrospective diagnoses of autism and WikiProject tags
This is a notification to inform you that a discussion has been added to the dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a dispute you may be involved in. Muffinator (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Direct link: Dispute_resolution_noticeboard


 * Oh well, thanks for the trip over there. A nice little excursion, anyway. Sorry I didn't get the chance to sign before it was closed! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

You're missing all the fun
EEng (talk) 01:16, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * ... ah yes, sinister buttocks again. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds vaguely familiar --
 * The Bishop: I will not buy this record, it is scratched.
 * Sinister Buttocks: My hovercraft is full of eels.
 * EEng (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

we have been there before. it is NOT up to editors to place content in the article based on our opinions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_unusual_deaths/Archive_8#Trimtime.21

" on April 29 to reveal the autopsy results, coroner Scotty Hill announced that Ramirez had died of cardiac dysrhythmia triggered by kidney failure stemming from her cervical cancer." blah blah blah there was new evidence that toxic chemicals might be involved. "The Riverside Coroner’s Office apparently agrees--it released the Livermore report last November, hailing its conclusion as the probable cause of the hospital workers’ symptoms. " - but not of Ramirez death. "Andresen’s team is going to conduct more experiments and check Ramirez’s blood again" but " the theory has provoked a backlash from other scientists.".

Sources clearly the death was from not unusual sources. the outbreak of others getting sick BUT NOT DEAD is what the source calls "unusual". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:14, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the circumstances make this death unusual, if not unique. But where exactly were we "there before"? The conclusion from User:Herostratus "But let's give TRPoD the win here" was disputed. Thanks. Blah blah blah. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks
Hello M. I hope that you are well and that the summer season was good to you. I read the section header but not the paragraph. My bad and I am glad you were there to catch it. OTOH I am always leery of "similar" statements as they often aren't. The source provided makes no mention of Linder being inspired by Chaplin though. I came upon it when an IP moved the item from the beginning to the end of the paragraph but, since CC's film was made first do you think we should move it back? I think that The Floorwalker is on one of my other Chaplin DVDs - if so I will try and watch it and make any changes as needed. Also, if you are a fan of DS I would highly recommend a read of this book if you have the time and inclination. It is full of wonderful bits and bobs about the film and can be used as a sort of written DVD commentary while watching it. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:36, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks for your message. A very understandable mistake. I must admit that I regard Groucho as some kind of comic deity. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hah nice hidden link. It sure is appropriate. That being the case I do hope that you can see the book I linked to. It will only add to your adulation. :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, looks very good, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:57, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

For future reference...
Guess what? You can't "Thank" someone while you're blocked. EEng (talk) 07:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As you know, I am unable to engage in any contact with any of you "low-life types" while you are still undergoing the torture of the comfy chair at AN/I. But don't worry, there's always something interesting to watch at Wikipedia. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * In all seriousness, this continues to be Through the Looking Glass meets Franz Kafka, so your level head is much needed. If you could give your honest opinion as solicited at the end of this post it would be much appreciated. EEng (talk) 00:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. What would be most helpful, if you could go the extra 1 mi, would be for you to look at the diff and ask yourself whether it represents the correction of errors or "idiosyncrasies" so severe that they warrant the kind of no-need-to-discuss-it attitude seen at Talk:Phineas_Gage. EEng (talk) 13:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC) P.S. Why don't we see you at DYK any more?
 * In fact, I have already looked at quite a few diffs over there. They all appear to me to be about style rather than content. I'm really not sure what is to be gained from blocking you indefinitely from that article unless, it's to "teach you a lesson" about WP:OWN or something. As you say it seems to be those on the sidelines that are more upset than those you have been "in dispute" with. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC) p.s. just doing other random things, as usual. My attention span is not great. Am not as "clincally addicted" to DYK as some, lol.

"Teenage Has-Been"
You talkin' 'bout me?? I was sort of hoping that that list would be limited to songs that made the charts, plus other songs that had articles - rather than it expanding exponentially.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:22, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh really! No worries, just sling it out. You must realise by now I am just an opportunistic trivia magpie. Please blame uncle Brian (yet again). Martinevans123 (talk) 10:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Come to the dark side
Since you had your own suspicions about me in the past, your point of view might be especially helpful at. I would like a real close this time instead of no consensus like before, so this can be over for good. EEng (talk) 03:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it's easy to gauge that you know so much about "old Phin" - you ought to write a book about him! Gosh, you have. (well you know a man who has, anyway, so you must be guilty, shame on you) Martinevans123 (talk) 07:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC) p.s. any chance of discount on a hardback copy?
 * I used to have a pile of copies I'd send to people who are helping (e.g. searching archives in remote small towns -- sometimes a years-long project) to make the significance of the research more palpable. Now I just send it via Amazon. In your case, however, we don't want accusations of bribery -- you can get one used for maybe $13 . The day I started this research 7 yrs ago the MIT Press Bookstore had only softback in stock and I didn't feel like coming back the next day. Big mistake. It's now completely disintegrated -- 8 blocks of pages of varying sizes and a dozen single loose pages. Inside what's left of the back cover it says "$200 REWARD IF FOUND", with my email and phone #. I'm serious though. This bullshit cost me 200 hours in the last nine months. Without a definite outcome the cycle of nonsense will resume sooner or later. Please read the thread, follow the links, make up your own mind and comment as to whether you think my behavior evinces a COI. (One of the things our friend can't seem to understand is that circumstances alone -- except certain very extreme ones -- can't establish a COI; only behavior can do that.) Unless you want the article to get turned  into something like this, then it will have groundbreaking research and comma-splices and run-ons and talk of a "peer reviewed children's book" and phrases like prepare for to take like something from a troubadour ditty: "He went up the blah / the something dah dah / for his true love's sake / prepare for to take / ...", I don't even know what that would mean. And sentence fragments.  If you have any question let me know. EEng (talk) 17:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That bullshit is quite a bargain, you know... works out at only 2 minutes per hour! But if ever I get a large iron thorough my frontal lobe, I'll be straight round.


 * "Phineas Gage had a hole in his head,
 * And ev'ryone knew that he oughta be dead.
 * Was it fate or blind luck, though it never came clear,
 * Kept keepin' on year after year... " - Banjo Dan and the Mid-nite Plowboys.
 * You're just going to leave me to my fate, aren't you? EEng (talk) 00:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Obviously, I can't comment from a neutral standpoint. I've laughed too much. But haven't you finished that article yet!? I mean, I know it was a big iron bar, but it wasn't that big, was it? Ever thought of taking a six-month wikibreak, somewhere remote? Railroad work can be quite exciting, I hear. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No, not finished. I'd say there's about 20% more material needed (mostly on theoretical "uses" of Gage, especially in the first 50 years) before I'd consider coverage complete. That material might be most appropriate in a sub-article, however -- possibly taking some of the hated footnotes with it! EEng (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Rudolf Koller
Martin, if it was you who cleaned up my confusion about Rudolf Koller and the Swiss Northeastern Railways, thank you. Guess I should have found a source other than Bing for translating Verabschiedung. Sca (talk) 14:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I can assure you it wasn't me, unless by complete accident! Far fewer accidents with that fine tunnel, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Musta been Yngvadottir, then. Sca (talk) 20:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Koller
So, Marty nominating Koller as DYK? Did you know that artist Koller collapsed on his post? .. and so on. Hafspajen (talk) 18:39, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe. I'm not a DYK fanatic. Be my guest.... Martinevans123 (talk) 18:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You DYK or not DYK? Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * To DYK or not to DYK, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the apathy and indifference of callous readers, or to DYK against a sea of phlegm, thus heightening our page view statistics.... Sca (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, how lovely. That must be the Holy Sea of Phlegm, yes? As in the coughing Cardinal Sin... "No one expectorates the Spanish Inquisition!", etc., etc. Martinevans123 (talk)
 * Told you so. Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * This is Marty's favourite article, . O' Imagine Koller will be added sooner or later. Hafspajen (talk) 21:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Do not practivce Cardinal sins - you'll besorry. Hafspajen (talk) 21:38, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * No, not the Holy Sea of Phlegm — It's more like the Sea of Love. Sca (talk) 21:43, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, nice. One of my favourite Pacino movies. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You are very funny Steve. And if Marty laughs even when he sleeps, then User:Sca giggles all the way through his breakfast. And then all the way home. Hafspajen (talk) 21:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't afford to dine out, Hafs. Are you insinuating that I breakfast at the homes of my countless paramours? Sca (talk) 22:21, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ooo, "paramours" - are they like paratroopers but without the camouflage? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * They are similar, except when they jump they sing Chanson d'Amour all the way down. Sca (talk) 14:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * . Martinevans123 (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Someone else said it was "just a four-letter word." Sca (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry to wake you with my nocturnal mirth, Sca. Our secret now out, alas. But enjoy the kippers! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * How about Sleeper? Sca (talk) 23:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * But of course. One of my favourites. " I haven't seen my analyst in 200 years. He was a strict Freudian. If I'd been going all this time, I'd probably almost be cured by now." (and the robot tailors a true gem). Martinevans123 (talk) 07:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Plus the 200-year-old VW Beetle that starts instantly at the turn of the key. Sca (talk) 13:52, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes indeed.
 * Luna: "It's hard to believe that you haven't had sex for 200 years."
 * Miles: "204, if you count my marriage."


 * So, gaiety or jollity aside - did anyone nominated poor Koller? Otherwise I will do that, and you guys come after and add fefrocious hooks as ALT, right? (200 years without an analyst, Marty? I am seriously worried for you Marty. Think how bad the next 100 will be!) Hafspajen (talk) 09:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC),
 * Yeah, I used to know Gay Etty and Jo Litty - a lovely couple, but always in stitches. But hey, nom away! We'll oblige with a score of less insulting ALTs. (Yeah, you know what they say - “One night in Bangkok Wikipedia is like a year in any other place”). Martinevans123 (talk) 09:31, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Hope for the best, yes,, , quite so. Never knew that Sca was eating breakfast with pink parashoutists. Hafspajen (talk) 11:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

What no MARTY template? Hafspajen (talk) 11:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Holy smoke
Where are the references, ?? Quick, in with some. We all get kicked in the but if not. ?? ?? Hafspajen (talk) 12:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's BUTT with two tees, I think you'll find... Martinevans123 (talk) 12:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rudolf Koller ‎
 * Blast I only noticed when nominated it. Fast, in with refs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 12:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Find some hotel-thing horses.http://www.hotel-adler.ch/index.php/en/art/rudolf-koller Hafspajen (talk) 12:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC) Rudolf Koller was famous for his true to nature animal and landscape paintings. It has been said of him that he was "Zurich's most characteristic artist" and that he was the "Artist of the Swiss national animal", the cow.??Really??? Hafspajen (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds excellent! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

http://www.artnet.com/artists/johann-rudolf-koller/past-auction-results And is probably just eating his breakfast now and giggles...and Marty get out there and try to DO something, where did you added those facts of yours? , help? Hafspajen (talk) 13:04, 17 September 2014 (UTC) LOVE Keith JarrettHafspajen (talk) 17:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't panic. Just chewing the cud at the moment. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Arr-. Hafspajen (talk) 13:04, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Uh, yeah, I had no idea you were thinking of nominating this for DYK. Please withdraw it; the article will have to be totally butchered, there are no refs. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Uh, yeah, realised that... ::Whote time out, we need some days to put in refs. Hafspajen (talk) 13:54, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Alas, lack of refs is a frequent failing of Ger. Wiki. I noted this problem on the Koller talk page. Sca (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Phew! What a relief. We can all relax now - especially that poor lad on the white horse He'll catch his death, if he's not careful! Now then... if I can just get Rudi's ruddy cow out of my garden.... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about the cow getting in the garden - start worrying about the refs getting in the article... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXEJlss42cHafspajen (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes, I found that lovely Goldberg Variations last night, when I was searching for refs!! Reminded me (as usual) a lot of this guy. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

LOVE Keith JarrettHafspajen (talk) 17:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Mmmm, really haunting bass-line from Charlie Haden on Osito Gominola, isn't there. Spooky. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Though more like Ornette Colemaniola - or maybe still Charlie Hadenuki? Hafspajen (talk) 21:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * .Don'y you think we should start working now real fast?
 * Wow, 11 million views. Who needs Koller. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:41, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

GugugstyleHafspajen (talk) 21:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I lasted 68 seconds. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Sometimes the cows also appear in accompanied by a few decorative into the grass draped human figures such as in the "siesta" of 1860 or in the "Autumn Willow" from 1867, rarely, joke sneaks into the picture, but is it before: The famous "cow in the herb garden" of 1857/58 about looks at us with such a self-evident from the vegetables out that we must suddenly smile. Rudolf Koller has created with cows, what Anselm Feuerbach had to try half the staff of ancient mythology.

WIKI FOR MARTY - thiscame up miraculously out of a Norwegian template indicating translation, so put it here
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Derry vs. Londonderry
Please be aware that to avoid POV editwarring over the Derry vs. Londonderry issue, Wikipedia's policy, as documented at WP:DERRY, is to use Derry for the city and Londonderry for the county. You need to respect and follow that practice, and not go around arbitrarily imposing your own preferences on any individual article. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 18:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, right, I'm in an "edit war" am I? "... arbitrarily imposing my own preferences"? When exactly did that happen? Are you suggesting I live in Belfast: ? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:13, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I made a mistake. You made a series of edits to Waterside, Derry a few days ago, in the middle of which an anonymous IP made the Derry/Londonderry switch instead of you — but I misread the edits and incorrectly attributed that change to you instead of the IP. My apologies. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. Want me to delete this? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:45, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Koller's cattle
OK, dict. seems to restrict braying to donkeys, though I suspect mules bray as well.

Originally I wrote mooing but that seemed too low-key for the effort the cow seemed to be making. Do you think lowing is louder than mooing? (I'm a city boy.) Sca (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, as if any self-respecting lakeside chalet-dwelling artist would paint a mule! (or even a mule). Having been born and raised on a farm, I can tell you that cows bellow! Did you realise that Google translates Brüllendes Rind as "Rawling Beef"!! That's an English phrase you don't often see very often. But, yes "moo" does sound a bit limp, I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, bellowing it is. Sca (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


 * PS: Ever thought of archiving some of your talk page? Sca (talk) 21:30, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What!?: Is it Christmas already!? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Whatever do you wait for Christmas to that for. Hafspajen (talk) 14:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah! You know what they say (in Bolton).... "Arse longa, Vita sackville-brevis". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:17, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Madre de Dio, ¤. Salvo Montalbano (talk) 14:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC) SinterClas move then?Hafspajen (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

RFC/N discussion of the username "Martinevans123"
A request for comment has been filed concerning the username of Martinevans123 (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion here. PrimeBOT (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

now could you will you sign your ouch, no saddle comment on the nomination, - when I try it cames out like this - whatewer that is


 * What on earth is going on here??! I make a harmless comment, about a young gentleman "going bareback" on the shores of Lake Zurich, and now suddenly my username is controversial??! How very dare you! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:36, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Autism
Since the Autism page is protected and its talk page as well, here is a heads up on a recent CDC whistleblower.

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/the-big-one-cdc-whistleblower-goes-public-now/ http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1164794

William Thompson, one of the 4 authors of a 10 year old CDC study on whether vaccines cause autism, recently went public and stated that the published results were incomplete. According to him the increase in autism for boys was around 340%.

FYI: Boys are 3 times as susceptible to mercury poisoning as girls, and the ratio of autism in boys versus girls is also about 3 fold. Mercury is used as a preservative in vaccines.71.174.141.49 (talk) 22:56, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for spotting my three tiny edits at Autism. Surprising that MMR vaccine controversy makes no mention of mercury, Now, who do I know in Boston, Mass... ?? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:12, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Sigh
No idea how this came up. It is certainly all wrong. But nothing has been filled in. But it came out like this when I tried to sign for you. Remove it if you please. asked Yngvadottir to delete it... sorry.... Hafspajen (talk) 09:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Trouting
Re trouting, hereabouts we have jackalopes — they're an invasive species from Wyoming and quite a nuisance, causing damage to vehicles when reduced to road kill on our 80 mph freeways (motorways to you). Sca (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, I know all about then... I saw Boundin', haha! (p.s. you can't go that fast on Scottish roads, beacause of the haggis vans). Martinevans123 (talk) 15:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Teacher's Highland Cream 20cl bottle 1.jpg

Do they serve haggis on board those vans? I would require a liberal preprandial supply of the libation at left to get any of that stuff down. Sca (talk) 16:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, they'll serve anyone. Sober or not. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You look kind of lost... Hafspajen (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Still searching for bird life amongst the pyramids. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Nothing there, justa bunch of dry idiots. Hafspajen (talk) 22:14, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll drink to that. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:17, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Drinkwat? You have nothing at home. Hafspajen (talk) 22:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yousaidso. Hafspajen (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I've got something French at the back of the drinks cabinet that I use for getting paint out of my trousers. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * NOT good foryou. Marrrty, you donotdrinkthat - bad, very bad - you'l see green things. Hafspajen (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

WIllbebck tohityouwith a fish.
 * Ok. Good advice. I'll settle instead for a little celestial harp. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Keep to wegetbabkles. Tunips, nice little swedes ...healtyHafspajen (talk) 23:15, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

La Circassienne au Bain
Thanks for the visit and edits, much appreciated. I've reworded the section about the Salon Exhibition at the Louvre, because the Salon was something very specific (for which there is an article at Salon (Paris) ) and after you left, the introductory paragraph ended up with two 'as a result of's' in the same sentence, so I've changed that too. I did prefer my original 'subsequently' because I thought it conveyed the sense of a passage of time between the disaster and the filing of the claim for compensation (disaster = April 1912, compensation claims accepted from January 1913), so unless you strongly advise against it, I would like to revert that edit? Other changes I completely agree with, thanks. Kind regards. Hogarthianista (talk) 18:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Thanks for your very polite message. I thought "subsequently" suggested a longer passage of time. But I guess nine months was quite a while. But I also thought it disassociated an event from its cause. It was almost as if the claim was made for a different reason. That's just the way it appeared to me. Yes, I was aware there is an article at Salon (Paris). I was thinking that by 1814, after the Revolution, the "great age" of the salon was already passed and that the gallery was more of the institution it is today. But I could be wrong and I've no strong views either way. So please carry on. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Sercquiais and Auregnais
Hi Martin,

Can you please see my comment on the Talk Page over at Talk:Auregnais? The Auregnais article really needs correcting, as the mistake appears to have been there for a very long time. Sorry, I wouldn't usually ask you, but I often see errors and have no idea what the correct protocol is, beyond leaving a comment on the Talk Page. Many thanks to you. Sorry for being rude to you earlier in the year. Alrewas (talk) 10:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Were you rude? I have completely forgotten! No worries. I'll be plesaed to take a look. Best regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

La Circassienne au Bain - Potential violation of WP:OR
Hi Martin, yes, quite possibly. I wasn't sure what to do here, perhaps I should have sought advice first. I wanted to add the section about the painting size because, all over the web, the size which appeared on the claim form (8'x 4')is stated factually as 'the size of the painting' even though it cannot possibly be. If I leave the factual parts of the paragraph (contents of claim form and sizes of extant paintings are verifiable by checking museum and public gallery sizes, etc) but leave out the final, concluding sentence (leaving readers to draw their own conclusions), would that be satisfactory? For future reference, can I say 'see talk' in the main article for minor controversies and inconsistencies, etc?

Also, since you take an interest in such things, I would be grateful for any feedback regarding the substantial updating I've done recently of the Merry-Joseph Blondel page. It is now substantially more detailed and better researched than the French page on this painter, so can I now remove the 'contains material translated from the French' label from the talk page? And what would I have to do, in your opinion, to upgrade it from a 'start' quality article? Have I achieved that with my update? Any advice will be much appreciated. regards Hogarthianista (talk) 15:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * That looks like a reasonable solution to me (I'm sure I've added far worse unsupported material myself, before now). I'll try and have a look at Blondey. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comparions with other language wikis are generally frowned upon, I have found. But, goodness me, Merry-Joseph Blondel looks much more than a start article, in my opinion. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Noted re: comparisons. Very kind of you to have a look at the Blondel page.  Baron Regnault's page will be next in my sandbox I think.  Hogarthianista (talk) 18:31, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Coleridge, Keswick and exotic substances
I've taken the liberty of blitzing your last addition, as it seems to me to be relevant to STC's article rather than throwing any light on Keswick. Quite prepared to engage in a friendly talk-page brawl, of course, but besides that would very much like your thoughts at the FAC.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   20:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I was in two minds myself. Had never thought of Keswick as a hot bed of poetic fever. Have added it in over at Christabel. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Who is she, Mary Evans???


Hafspajen (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, some old dragon I guess. Nothing to do with Silas Tomkyn Comberbache. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, wonder how the young ones look... like. No relative? Hafspajen (talk) 08:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC) *in the County jail
 * "I love to hear those convicts squeal.
 * It's a shame these slugs ain't real...."

On the Run...
 * A great album! Have always loved that one. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:26, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

OOoops, sorry, you were right - but you fixed that already - it wasn't Böcky (I mean the painter wan't Böcky ...but Koller). Hafspajen (talk) 18:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * And the first one said to ther second one - I hope you are having fun ... ohohho, yesHafspajen (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * .Heavy stuff... that Böcky, but sorted out finally ... stolen your camel- Hafspajen (talk) 18:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Ahh!! not the camel!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:49, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunalely - but uit maicheid so welll The Camel-thief (talk) 18:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well I guess that the camel is a traditional Chinese animal, if not Japanese! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:05, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Join the club. Hafspajen (talk) 21:23, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * But you have a very good excuse. "If life gives you melons then you're probably dyslexic!"
 * OHhohohohoohohoo - just how do you know I am not a melon? The Camel (talk) 18:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I try to pigeon hole you in vain.... you certainly are an Ænigma. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Elias the shrimp fisher? How dare you, Sir! Hafspajen (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Lynsey de Paul
Is it just me that finds this strange ? The BBC and The Times report her age at the date of death as 64. The one reference that seemingly cited 1948 as her birth year has been replaced by a (citation needed} tag, yet Wiki still has the article showing her birth year as 1948. It hardly accords with the, usually very reliable, cited references.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think someone removed "unreliable refs", mentioning birth name in their edit summary? But I agree, that does look odd. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Free BMD clearly shows that registration of her birth was in September 1948, So 1950, and age 64, is definitely wrong. I have amended accordingly, but the month and day can be verified only from the full birth record. Very surprised that both The Times and the BBC have got this wrong. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, me too. I have thought for a while that 1948 was the more likely, given the widespread practice of lopping a year, or three, off many pop performers ages.  However, are we correct in ignoring such 'reliable sources' and importing a piece of 'original research' ?? I suspect more evidence may emerge following the post mortem or, more likely, once the death certificate is available.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure. That free BMD source seems perfectly reliable to me. It's odd that the process of simply searching for it on the web might be regarded as WP:OR. I'd even argue that it's a secondary source, as the birth certificate itself would be the primary. Perhaps Guy might be able to advise. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Go the Fuck to Sleep
Glad you brought that up: it's a fantastic article, of course, among the best that Wikipedia has to offer. :) Drmies (talk) 19:52, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back." - Leo Wiki Editor
 * Eh, not mine. Hafspajen (talk) 01:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Me and my big mouth



 * Shocking. Yet another page you've poisoned with your own warped brand of "humor". You should be blocked. But, you know what they say, man, shit puns happen:  ... hours of fun, minutes even. My favourite  - the pictorial Reese Witherspoon. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * C'mon. You have to admit, "statue mile" was pretty good, though in retrospect I should have set it up as statue mile in the first place, for the avoidance of doubt. BTW I doubt you've seen (a bit of a rant of mine at MOS/dates and numbers). EEng (talk) 12:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't, even, get me started, about, the wikicomma!! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Uterus transplant
Marty, are you sure this meets ITN's significance criterion? I mean, the baby is only a gol-dang Swede, and we know what they're like.... Sca (talk) 15:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * flying buttocks ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Now, if the mom were Norwegian, that would be different. Sca (talk)

There is NO such illustration... Hafspajen (talk) 18:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey! cool it Sca-face. At least the Swedish one is actually born already. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Scarface is an indian, like the First Mohican? Hafspajen (talk) 23:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rudolf Koller
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

 * Thanks, although for me shrimps belong, not in a dish, but in a tank. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! Aubergine with cheese - my favourite. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OMG!! First Romanians... and now invasive killer shrimp!! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * WHAT R-manians? Hafspajen (talk) 19:45, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * These are, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:48, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No. No maniacs for me - These - good. Hafspajen (talk) 20:23, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

happy hahahaha, only 458,996,514 views!!
 * Prefer Ken's version Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Overlink
I believe that this is an overlink. Tx. --Epeefleche (talk) 20:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, guess you're right. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[[File:Sir Lawrence Alma-Tadema, English (born Netherlands) - A Reading from Homer - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb|center|333px|Breakfast at the Haf Caf - a reading of A Reading from Homer is obligatory]]



A place to live ... move. Hafspajen (talk) 20:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Canada is a very jolly place. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hahahaha, funny places. Haha (tribe) Haha (tribe) (talk) 20:59, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

(Daily) Telegraph
I take your point. However, the article is badly titled in my opinion as it separates the Daily ~ from the Sunday ~ (the latter having its own article which could just as well be a section within the main Telegraph page) which is not a distinction made in the online version. The article says: "Telegraph.co.uk is the online version of the newspaper. It includes articles from the print editions of The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph". which is an increasingly archaic way of looking at it - these days news articles are written with all the various media in mind and the printed version is likely to become a minority format (if it isn't already). Sorry though, your amendment was correct. Btljs (talk) 08:02, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I guess newspaper vendors will eventually be considered wholly Dickensian, even in London. Maybe we'll end up calling the article Telegraph.co.uk!. I agree a single article, that covers all days of the week, might be better. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Q!
<BIG><BIG><BIG><BIG><BIG>MARTY!!!!!!</BIG></BIG></BIG></BIG></BIG> Hafspajen (talk) 20:56, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Enjoy!! ....also, just for you, a Led Zep classic!!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

PHfuu, take it EASY ... mARTY. Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah! a load of old hat, I say. Who wants that an old world Plant like that?? We want some Aussie Gold!! just great for children's parties Martinevans123 (talk) 21:42, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

SOO LOUD! ssssss... Why mess arund.. Hafspajen (talk) 22:15, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey? Did someone say.... Mess Around!?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC) ... and an all-time favourite .... and even Matthew Ball
 * Pocahontas .-..--..--. Hafspajen (talk) 22:31, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Marty bee good, good Hafspajen (talk) 22:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Aheeemm, hemm, what Charles Edward ****Anderson??? "Chuck" Berry ? Hafspajen (talk) 22:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * And let's not forget the mighty Champ. And here with Monty Sunshine's band:
 * Rock all round the day
 * It was probably your evil pale sock who did it for you...
 * How very dare you!! I feel quite crushed by your baseless accusation! It's scandalous sandal-less. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I am SHAKEN! Shaking-Hafspajen (talk) 14:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Waht's wonderful, Monty ...? Hafspajen (talk) 21:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, wonderful. Hafspajen (talk) 21:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This should be probably removed, smells like old shoes for miles away. good enough for a rapport.
 * You could be right. Seems rather odd, doesn't it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:37, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Your edit summary made me remember ... this lullaby
Your edit summary over at Hillybilly's made me remember this — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 23:12, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Shaking suspitions Hafspajen (talk) 14:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Go, Wilko, Go
 * Fabulooooooooooooooos
 * Maestro the Musica
 * If I knew then, what I know now ... - yeah, you probably wasn't marrying that stupid bastard, Ike Anwhistle

"Sure, I've slapped Tina ... There have been times when I punched her to the ground without thinking. But I have never beat her."
 * This will put you in a good humour if you stick with it to the end. — &#124; Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh Buzzard&#124; — 21:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks Gareth. Have watched many times! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:49, 19 October 2014 (UTC)



Discretionary sanctions notification - MOS
Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Gosh this looks frightfully important. Shame I can't even remember making any edits there. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "At least I won't be shot for singing
 * I'm a free agent, I can protest
 * This must be freedom
 * I must be happy"

Short Attention Span Theater
How quickly they forget... Apparently now everyone who edits MOS or Talk:MOS gets one -- see. EEng (talk) 17:13, 15 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Are these as good as wiki love-kittens? Someone tells me two of these templates are equal in worth to a "Barnstar of Embuggerance", and each one on its own is worth about three and a half bracket-bot notifications. A very polite user called Eric tells me that if I save them up, I can eventually cash them in for a "f*ck off" or two "c*nts" (but only if I've written a Good Article). So I'm very pleased. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

De gustibus non est disputandum

 * In all modesty... really??? EEng (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The pinnacle of your wiki career. Those critics are just jealous bitches, darhling. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC) But it's time some of your more outrageous hooks were towed away.

Well done

 * Ooo, a nice cuppa! How lovely. I'll take mine with Milk and Alcohol, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Rhythm Stick
We'll get there eventually with this song, even if it's just one sentence at a time... I just need to get my hands on copies of the two biographies to clear up those "citation needed" templates in the text... Richard3120 (talk) 17:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Go ahead.... Hit me!! Martinevans123 (talk)

A barnstar for you!!!!

 * Previous ones all archived! But, thank you. Ah yes, that will be the famous David Bowie Ash Bucket Challenge.... good for you! Well done. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, ... Hafspajen (talk) 17:08, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'd better hurry up and archive it before you take this one back! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My mistake, that one was only a joke ...Hafspajen (talk) 17:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

YOUR FAULT 2012. Hafspajen (talk) 12:56, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oho, have some tea and some blues. Hafspajen (talk) 23:05, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Jack Bruce
Basically it was a clean up of unnecessary detail and parts of it were poorly written. Parts looked like they had been copied from other sites but were missing key words. It also reeked of Recentism, especially since it was considerably longer than the section on his time in Cream. I'd like to see this article make it on the main page, but as it currently stands it won't and I was trying to pitch in a little and help. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  00:30, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Scorpion0422. Thanks for your message and thanks for "pitching in". You said "Take a look at the difference between versions and you'll figure it out." Well, I certainly did look at the differences before reverting and they all looked like style changes and unexplained deletions. I was a bit perplexed since it was the first edit I had seen you make to that article, and you had initially left no edit summary. If there was copyvio there, I think it might have been useful to just delete all the copyvio bits and give the location of the original text that had been copied. I think it's also fair that some sections of an article will be longer, or more detailed, that others (particularly later ones). I don't see that as good reason to slash bits out. If sections don't have adequate sources, I think it's first better to try and find sources or to tag that no sources are available. For example, these three paras look like relevant facts to me that still belong:
 * "On 4 June 2011, Bruce played a special concert at the Royal Festival Hall in London, which is celebrating its 60th anniversary. The evening celebrated the 50th anniversary of the blues in Great Britain, and Bruce played with his Big Blues Band and special guest Joe Bonamassa.
 * "Festival appearances with his Big Blues Band continued throughout the UK and Europe during 2011. At the Cornbury Festival, Great Tew Park, Oxfordshire on 3 July where Bruce appeared as a special guest of the Stax label tribute band, The Staxs. The festival was recorded by Abbey Road Studios.
 * "Bruce started 2012 playing the Gerry Rafferty tribute concert in Glasgow, followed by a date with the traditional Celtic band Lau. BBC Scotland recorded a one hour special on Bruce, which also included a performance with Lau. The completed documentary Jack Bruce – The Man behind the Bass was transmitted in February 2012 on BBC Scotland. It featured new interviews, with Bruce, Clapton, Baker and Brown, as well as the concert footage featuring new versions of six career spanning songs, "We're Going Wrong", "Sunshine of Your Love", "Weird of Hermiston", "Theme for an Imaginary Western", "Keep it Down" and "Child Song"."
 * Whinge over. Thanks anyway. Martinevans123 (talk)
 * The third paragraph was left in. It was simply merged with the one above. The ones I did remove, I felt they weren't particularly notable. He is, after all, a musician and playing shows is what he does. So simply playing a concert isn't inherently notable. And I didn't feel those were worth noting. I should point out that the only section I edited was the final, so I'm sure there are other paragraphs that might not fit, I simply didn't have the time to do it. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  21:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean and I don't wholly disagree. I posted a question over at Talk:Jack Bruce. By all means clarify or add over there. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!
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Happy Halloween!

Hello Martinevans123:1 2 3 4 5 song-y Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  Hafspajen (talk) 13:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * Ooooo!!!! How scary!!! I'll be thinking of you when I carve my pumpkin. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 123-baby-you-and-me: Michael and pals before he got scary! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Scary rodent
 * Hey, why are you writhing about fishbreeding and agronomy as User:Martinen44? Tha is excentric. Hafspajen (talk) 21:18, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, but I feel I must remind you all of WP:NOTCOFFEEKLATCH. EEng (talk) 01:41, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Excuseme thatwasajoke, and by the way, why would you? Hafspajen (talk) 01:45, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Great work
Great work on Nicholas Winton today, I'd love to really expand his page. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 14:42, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes a worthy article that could be improved, I'm sure. Might even be/ have been a candidate for DYK. My edits just a bit of tidying up, really! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Brought tears to my eyes. EEng (talk) 15:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ... or even WP:ITN where the very sensible User:Mjroots has nominated it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I was happy to nominate it. A great honour for a great man. Mjroots (talk) 19:18, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha. (I'm sure he will cherish nomination at Wikipedia ITN!) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm, possibly another honour too, appearing on ITN. Mjroots (talk) 20:52, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh well, we tried. Thanks for your support. Mjroots (talk) 17:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Great to see such important real world news taking centre stage yet again. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

See the WP:Czech Republic talk page for details re class of award. Mjroots2 (talk) 11:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Talk:Czech Republic? I couldn't see a relevant thread. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:49, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I enquired at the cz.wiki Talk Page for Nicholas Winton. An editor there has very kindly infomed me, that according to this source, it was First Class. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Lunar effect
Hey Martin,

You asked in your edit summary of lunar effect "what's a "significant ordinary effect"?" What I meant by that is what the first sentence of the article says: "simply (...) variation in light levels", because that is the only real difference between a full moon and a non-full moon: it just reflects more light from the Sun. Significant, but pretty ordinary compared to the claims described in the article. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If we have "significant extraordinary effect" in the caption for the main image at the top of the article, it might be worth explaining/ integrating this useage into the text? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween Apples

 * "Gee, thanks buddy!" Now that really IS scary. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

"Hubble bubble toil and toffee" (the noo)
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Nos Calan Gaeaf Hapus!

Hello Marty: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   – As you stoke up your steaming wiki-cauldron, please help yourself to some tasty plot toffee, Tom Trot, claggum or clack ….. or else how about some Banoffee pie, hokey pokey, puff candy or seafoam??! Hafspajen (talk) 19:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC) Well, if I am still allowed on this page, that is. Hafspajen (talk) 19:21, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Certainly not ... ya "bard"!!!
 * No, hang on.... The Reformation! My favourite pub in spooky old Gallowstree Common! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers, Hafs. Can't beat a bit of Halloween trance! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:37, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh? Hope you are ready with your pious theses instead of falling in trance ....Hafspajen (talk) 19:57, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Did someone say 95 glasses? Cheers! (It must be "early doors" in Wittenberg! lol) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

.Hafspajen (talk) 21:16, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Indenting
Who were you replying to with comment? Did you mean to reply to Arnoutf? Stickee (talk) 13:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Who was who replying to? EEng (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * In fact not. Was agreeing with him in reply to Tennispompompompom. Have now clarified. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

In fact not what? EEng (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Not what or What-not?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * One can never have too many pom-poms... PomPomCloudsAreWhite

Neal Miller
Hi Martinevans123. In case you haven't figured this out, I've got a group of my History of Psychology students working on the Neal Miller article. I see that you are a Master Editor. I hope you will bear with my students' mistakes and help them develop this article. Neal Miller is one of the most important 20th c. psychologists and I was surprised to see that there was so little about him on Wikipedia. This is a great project for my students, and we will appreciate any guidance. Feel free to list yourself on my course page. Thanks! Jim J.R. Council (talk) 22:46, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, a might call myself a "Master Editor" but in truth I'm a complete amateur. I never manage to figure anything out. Your students are more than welcome, I'm sure. A very worthy subject, mistakes aside. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Narcissus
OK. C Day Lewis is in! --Michael Goodyear (talk) 04:19, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. I see you've linked the entire book! Can we single out that one poem somehow? I guess a page number, but doesn't really matter. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, there was a typo in the Google link, now fixed --Michael Goodyear (talk) 13:30, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * And don't forget Housman! --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, good old Houshusband. I had no idea about him!
 * "He was also (according to Frank Kermode) a very fastidious bachelor, who refused to allow his neighbour Ludwig Wittgenstein to use his private lavatory – though whether this is significant in some way I can’t say." . Martinevans123 (talk) 13:10, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Your visit to User:Bishonen talk page might be helpful
Hello Martinevans: There is currently a section open concerning the "crazed editor" phenomenon on the User:Bishonen Talk page titled "Third time around at Freud". User:Bishonen is presently taking reports concerning one editor in particular who has been needlessly taking up an excessive amount of time from other editors on the Freud page. If you have a chance to visit the Bishonen Talk page, any short drop-in comment you might make on your experience with that other editor might help. FelixRosch (talk) 16:13, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not Bishonen. I'm just an ordinary crazed editor. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Martinevans: That was my mis-typed salutation (corrected). Your back and forth with Allmannacer on his comments regarding Moses were appreciated for their tone and patience. Should he just get a pass for causing us to be deflected from regular editing because of his lack of understanding of even the dust jacket description of Moses and Monotheism. Along with his other disruptions to Freud from the last months, I thought you could glance at the "Third time around at Freud" section mentioned above. FelixRosch (talk) 21:25, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I love Moses. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This one's quite likeable, too (and Hafs might like the pictures...) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:48, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Goodness me, Paley. Does this mean you've finally joined the video age?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's quite a revelation - I've got a new pc with Windows 8.1 (my old one had Windows 2000, and was so slow it took minutes to load just pages of text). So now, sound and movement grace PCW Towers in quite an addictive fashion ... am wasting many an hour watching old TOTP performances etc.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:57, 7 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow, PCW Towers! You can waste many more watching my video links! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I love Moses, and "fit the battle", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks Gerda. I have no knowledge of either of those. Thanks for the introduction! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC) p.s. well maybe the second one just a little, haha
 * Did you know that I made a DYK about encouragement about a year ago (not my article, not for myself, I was beyond needing it then: "... that the song "Ermutigung" by Wolf Biermann, encouraging people not to become hardened in hard times, was written for Peter Huchel, then under house arrest?") which got to the headlines today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:56, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's amazing. I'm always looking out for encouragement from the admins. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:50, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Who would have thought that such a pleasant coterie would have formed here from my little inquiry. May I provide a cup of tea... FelixRosch    <font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK  15:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, how refreshing!! And just two little spoons for me, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:24, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Everything is possible on a Martin page getting close enough to St. Martin's day, - many celebrate today, as they celebrated fall of the wall two days early. Next music around the corner there, on mourning, war and peace, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Enjoying our lovely St Martin's Summer in UK. But I celebrate St Martin all year round. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Sin tax
What's the ;;Science fiction'' syntax you used in the Menace infobox? I've never seen it. Documentation? EEng (talk) 23:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's from the future. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:48, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Do you know where there's something explaining it? EEng (talk) 11:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No, seriously.

Dewey Redman
While the quote you reverted may be mispositioned, or involve an inappropriate degree of emphasis in any event, the article does not yet address the challenges during and to his career, from what I can see.

Dreadarthur (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Good point. That quote may well be very informative and I'm sure it would be wholly appropriate, in the body of the article, as part of a more detailed appreciation of this entire career. Maybe you could open a discussion on his Talk Page? By all means add what new material you can. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:16, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Death by coconut
Hey, I'm the anon IP editor who removed the Donkey Kong 3 information from the "Death by coconut" page. I called it nonsense in the edit summary; it was pretty clearly written by a non-native English speaker and made no sense at all. "The hitting makes a miss of the game"? Really? I wanted to thank you for restoring it and making it make more sense. 74.119.157.2 (talk) 20:28, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I am pleasantly surprised to get a message from you. I hope you consider registering as a user. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:47, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I quite probably will at some point, I just haven't gotten around to it yet - and at the moment my edits are primarily fixing typos and reverting vandalism (and/or terribly written good faith edits). Someday! 74.119.157.2 (talk) 23:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thought you might want to know - I finally registered! NekoKatsun (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hooray!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Nick Drake 'not a virgin' shocker
. The tabloids will be all over this. Time to tool up. Ceoil (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You could be right. "Things Behind the Sun" ?? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd never have thought he had it in him, but have been wrong (around once) before. It wasnt with Linda Thompson anyway, thats for sure. Ceoil (talk) 17:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not know that his grave stone had been taken away as it made been so defaced with people chipping bits off. (I'm wrong about lots of things all the time). Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. You'd have thought that Drake fans were gentle, thoughtful souls, rather than graveyard robbing bastards. Then again, the two of us nearly strangled each other on the talk page of "Northern Sky". Go figure. Ceoil (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I promise to never chip away a bit of your gravestone, Ceoil. Well, not a big bit anyway! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Better men than you have tried Martin ;) Ceoil (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't doubt it. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new job
Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahem, thanks. But between you and me, perhaps we should keep this a bit quiet. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Punctuation question.
Hi Martin, How are you? I just had a small question to ask you. I saw your edits on the Mel Giedroyc Wiki page, but saw that you had removed a few commas after dates., for example instead of saying "On 14 October, it was announced" you changed it to "On 14 October it was announced". I was just curious as to why you did that as I was taught in those situations to add a comma after the date. Is it a British versus a North American thing? I have checked various web pages from the UK and Canada, where there was a comma after a date. I was just curious.74.15.186.97 (talk) 20:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)samusek2
 * I'm very well, thank you. How kind of you to ask. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, a 74. Hafspajen (talk) 21:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I support the removal of this comma. To some extent it is a UK/US thing perhaps. --John (talk) 21:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

You are very welcome, but I just wanted to know your opinion on my question. I have seen the commas added and left off on other different British Wikipedia pages and on other websites. Before reverting anything, I wanted to ask the opinion of the user who did the edit in the first place. I just wanted to check with Martin and you guys if it's a UK/US (Canada) thing before I do anything. Thanks!74.15.186.97 (talk) 21:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)samusek2


 * We over here, in what's left of the Empire, know that commas used after an introductory phrase are the work of The Great Satan and are indicative of degeneracy and moral weakness. I need say no more, I feel. You Colonials will no doubt next be asking us to sprinkle our prose with "periods" or whatnot. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I know some time has passed since this discussion, but it is a topic that has interested me for a while. In most instances I prefer no comma after an initial prepositional phrase, especially when the preposition is a short one like "in" or "on"; sometimes I think a comma is needed for the sake of clarity, but usually I don't think a comma is needed. I often see the comma and wonder why people add one (and I'm from the former colonies). CorinneSD (talk) 17:37, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * As we all know, correct grammar is timeless (well, kind of). I think you are to be warmly applauded for your very sensible approach. And for flying the flag of good stout British grammar in the former colonies. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And for sentence fragments.
 * As for the matter at hand: contrary to what so many think, punctuation is not a programming language syntax, and many questions regarding placement of commas (in particular) are not subject to strict rules. Rather, it's often just a question of rhythm and pacing. EEng (talk) 18:55, 2 December 2014 (UTC) I thought you of all people would have something to say about ?
 * Aha! So at last you admit it.... it wasn't that nice Mr. Putin's BUK missile that was to blame! It was automatic table bots at wikipedia! Should put a lot of argument to rest over at that article! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC) Maybe someone could devise a machine that puts wiki-commas in for half the year and takes them out when there is enough British Summer sunlight to expose them as fraudulent? "Village technical pump" here we come....

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 * What's a girl to do?! I need to gen up. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

''Position vacant: Prince Charming wanted. Fairy-tale castle optional. Charming, witty Frogs need not apply.'' A real toad. (talk) 13:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, 18th Duchess of Alba
Howdy. Would you fix the article links to her successor, in the infobox & succession boxes? He's now been (correctly) moved to Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, 19th Duke of Alba. I'm Arb restricted from making the corrections. GoodDay (talk) 17:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes.... Arb restrictions. I might give it a try if I can. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

WHY are you doing this to me?? Hungerafspajen (talk) 21:17, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * To you??! It's for GoodDay, of course! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ya forgot the succession boxes at the bottom of the article. GoodDay (talk) 21:28, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Gosh, I'm really incompetent, aren't I! Can I interest you in a sledgehammer? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

....ooh, hang on, I thought you were "Arb restricted"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Now you made me eat. Hafspajen (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

[Goday.[[User:Hafspajen|Hafspajen]] (talk) 12:39, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "The low-budget promotional video for "Lazy Sunday" was filmed at Kenney Jones' parents' home on Havering Street in Stepney,east London and features his next door neighbour pretending to strangle Marriott."

This user is ranked 802
This user is ranked 802 on the list of Wikipedians by number of edits? GGGGood job. Hafspajen (talk) 16:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah bless. Dear Hafs, if only I had as much faith as you (or indeed any) in what must be Wikipedias's most misleading metric. I have it on very good authority that "Rank is the grade of coal described by Hilt's Law." So while we keep stoking the wiki-furnaces, just remember that at least half of my edits are corrections to my own spelling mistakes. And at least another half are poor taste puns and psychotic Easter eggs. In fact, I'd estimate it's at least 60% of each. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:58, 24 November 2014 (UTC) ... (p.s. the only reason I go pinning medals on my own chest, is so that the pin won't hurt me!)

Ah, I always knew the British are showing a moderate estimation of one's own talents, abilities, and value. Never mind, sweetie - you'll be fine, jut goo on like this and all will be just fine - (What happened - I am talking like an American) ... Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A great totally awesome album. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * care for some Vaseline ? Hafspajen (talk) 05:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Marty, I am fed up writhing Signpost. Will you write an entry or two? we need people who are quick fast and humorous. Answer NOW. Hafspajen (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, too busy. If I read it, I might be more amenable. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you mean if you read it?Hafspajen (talk) 22:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't read it. I don't have it delivered. I have no interest in it. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooo, looks like I do get it delivered, after all.... Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

File:MARTIN John Great Day of His Wrath.jpg The Drug-dealer (talk) 22:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This is your element, M - The Drug-dealer (talk) 23:18, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Meanwhile, at DYK
EEng is being a meanie again. Also, this should be fun: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Game_(mind_game). EEng (talk) 18:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "I didn't get where I am today by telling the truth!" Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * John Lewis: Our motto: "Never Knowingly deconstructed". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:48, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Speech is not only passively describing a given reality, but it can change the (social) reality it is describing through speech acts, which for linguistics was as revolutionary discovery as for physics was the discovery that measurement itself can change the measured reality, SINCERELY; SINCERELY; SINCERELY; SINCERELY; SINCERELY; NOVEMBER (talk) 23:50, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Good old J. L. Austin.... constructed to last. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:58, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Morris riders...
 * Tunnelbana riders. Hafspajen (talk) 05:15, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

man Blue man group.Hafspajen (talk) 16:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There, Dr. Richard von Krafft-Ebing, a specialist in sexual disorders, subjected him to a radical treatment for his " sick nerves ": ice baths or pistol shot to make it jump. This is part of an enigmatic translation Hafspajen (talk) 02:47, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Ted Hughes
Category:20th-century American poets - sorry about that. He slipped in under Category:Sylvia Plath and I forgot to take him out when AWBing. Thanks for the forehead-smack. Category:Hungarian-English translators - that one I honestly have no idea about. Seems to have been there for quite a while, but I'm not sure why. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:40, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks for the reply. Yes, just seems a bit too random to me. If there's nothing in the article, even close, I'd suggest deleting it. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooh, now there's a comedy sketch - Hungarian pornographic poetry. I'd think about writing it up...if I was funny... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooh "Nico", you are awful ...  Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, why have I never seen this film before? I must find and rent it at once. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:02, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A gem, I'm sure. "I love you, you pay my rent." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I also want to have Hungarian p. sketches. you need some translation? Hafspajen (talk) 03:56, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Category:Hungarian–English translators
 * And talking of knockers... whatever happened to the "Golden Sea Swallow of Knokke"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:53, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Keswick
I detect evidence that you are familiar with the geography and are perhaps a regular visitor. If the latter, email me and a lunch invitation at the Riley establishment will ensue for some point at which we coincide in Keswick. Meanwhile, could you look in at Benjamin Britten and see if you are happy with my heavy pruning?  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   21:21, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If only that were true. I have visited, at least once! But thank you for such a thoughtful invitation. I'll try and take a look, but it certainly is the season for pruning.Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Female Trouble
EEng (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Engie hun, I always find your quips so tasteful. But I feel you may have some gender equality issues you need to address. Otherwise you may find a few admins swarming all over you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Boat Race commentary
"Ah, isn't that nice! The wife of the Cambridge president is kissing the cox of the Oxford crew." (Harry Carpenter, BBC TV coverage of the 1977 Boat Race) Let us hope that the Rambling Man is back editing his magnum opus before long!  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   23:35, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * He is, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:41, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sheesh, what a dramah-puss... I was hoping we'd see those ruddy Oxbridge boats sunk at least until Monday. Oh well, guess we can't take to ArbCom this time. (sad face) Martinevans123 (talk) 23:49, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No better epitome of ME123's dry humor do I know than his linking (above) of ArbCom to the article Abandoned Shipwrecks Act. It's hysterical no matter what you think of ArbCom. EEng (talk) 07:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "Lasciate ogne speranza...?!" 'ere mate, I 'ad that Dantee geezer in the back of me cab last night... turns art he wanted droppin' darn the Pet's Cemetary or summat! Blimey. Strike a light! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, huh
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Happy Saint Lucia's day!

"Good Morning"Martinevans123: 1) Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia! 2) 13 December is the day when Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. 3) Hope you have a bright day! Hafspajen (talk) 09:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, how lovely! You can't beat some nice "Golden Buns", can you. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Very uncivilized of you to call me Norman.
That kind of paintings I can paint with a spaghetti through the keyhole. Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't dis Marylin! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:40, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Featured spaghetti  your buns, Marty. Hafspajen (talk) 12:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafs, "You show up in this dark place like a bar of soap in a coal-scuttle ..." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ... where he's visible as a dark silhouette against the luminous slime he exudes . EEng (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Chenille de Grand porte queue (macaon).jpg.) ]]
 * eeewww! seems a little harsh on our good friend Hafs? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC) or were you referring to the Blessed Jimbo?!

Now you are fussy. they crawl-and so both. Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, yes. I was watching the truly georgeous Tamsin Greig on The Graham Norton Show last night, and I literally fell about laughing when she described how she had had to "give voice" her own vagina in Episodes, but it came out "more like the Cookie Monster than Yoda...." (- a classic edition of the show if you want to catch it on iplayer!) Martinevans123 (talk) 17:12, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * HA! nickname frequently used for anyone named Norman who is also seen as a dynamic or ditzy personality, perhaps symbolically living up to the stereotyped pillaging of "Normans" a.k.a. Norsemen or Vikings. Citation needed indeed. Hafspajen (talk) 18:06, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The concept of aesthetics has been the interest of philosophers such as Pluto, Hume and Cant, who understood aesthetics as something pure and searched the essence of beauty, or, the ontology of aesthetics. But it was not before the beginning of the cultural sociology of early 19th century that the question was problematized in its social context, which took the differences and changes in historical view as an important process of aesthetical thoughtHafspajen (talk) 20:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Because of the talk.  ...Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah-ha! So you do have some musical taste after all! Hoorah!" Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Nej, jag har vidrig smak. Hafspajen (talk) 21:41, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "My name is not Sven it is Martin"! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Today the article is called Winter landscapes in Western art. *my name is Gummy Björn. Hafspajen (talk) 21:50, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Squeeze (copying method)
Hi Martin. I've been reading archaeology quite intensely for over fifteen years now. In this field, a "squeeze" is a very common NOUN, not a verb, as you correctly have noticed. A typical sentence: "After the Mesha Stele was shattered by its Bedouin finders, the only way of restoring it was by using the squeeze taken by Salem al-Khoury." No archaeologist will ever ask you "using the WHAT?" if you tell him that. I'm just one step away from an important graduation exam, Wikipedia is a very useful tool for me sometimes and I make amendments when I think it's very much needed, but for now I don't have the time to write articles or alike. Once I take my exam, we can see about that. It seems to me quite common that terms marked as "article non existent" work like challenges to people with more time than me, who might otherwise not stop and consider writing one. It does not harm anyone in any way, so please, let's make this our last dialogue on this specific topic, shall we? I thank you. I hope we'll both soon find an article about the technique of taking a squeeze on Wik. Or not, one can only do so much. Now back to my studies. Have a great day!
 * I do hope this not our last dialogue on this subject! I'm very pleased that you see red links are a challenge to - I guess that is really what they are meant to be. And I certainly won't delete that entry at Squeeze - but don't be too surprised if some other zealot does. Very good luck in your graduation exam. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:59, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Main page TFA tribute joke of the day
"Have you heard about the new cockney genealogy series? It's called Who The Fuck Do You Think You Are?!" (.... with kind thanks to HIGNFY's Martin Clunes).

Yes, Mum
According to Keirsey, Queen Elizabeth II may be an Inspector. EEng (talk) 06:28, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah? And I suppose Phil the Greek is a clippy?? ... apparently Prince Charles is a actually a real plant! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:41, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Huh, what mummy? Marty is clearly a tarzan Hafspajen (talk) 06:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "Archaeologists claim to have discovered more than a million dummies in an ancient encyclopaedic cemetery." 08:33, 18 December 2014 (UTC)Martinevans123 (talk)
 * Some personalities seem more difficult to pin down... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:15, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "... well, at least, we thought it was a borzoi, but when we stripped him we found he was just a hairy whippet. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Narcissus washstand
Good to see you're still around. I lost my enthusiasm a while ago, and yet there's still a draw. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 22:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A drawer, you say? There's a whole chest! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes... "enthusiasm" ... I remember that (kind off). I'd like to see one of those techy-wiki-policy-wonks come up with that ultimate groovy wikipedia equation (where E = encyclopeadic output, m = manual edits and c = conflict)!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Gee, thanks groovy bot! Sing-along now, y'all! A Sedaka classic . Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2014 (UTC) ... although Mac and Katie's version was really good too! .... as was Neil's, of course!!

Merry Merry
To you and yours FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 15:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice!! Looking forward to the bangles and beads.... Martinevans123 (talk) 18:37, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Very, very disappointed
EEng (talk) 04:49, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season

 * Why, thank you! I am indeed just "some very random person"... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:21, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * After all the things I have done for you, my son... found tou fairies and everything. Thine words upsetted me. Hafspajen (talk) 17:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * "Macho Man" Randy Savage doesn't look much like a fairy to me, dearie. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:15, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No, no, it looked like YOU, (random) ... honey. Hafspajen (talk) 18:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Just like Randy Jimbo, I find myself wrestling with your intense flattery! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:16, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, random user, how hard Hip Toss from Santino to Fandango.jpg your day was. Hafspajen (talk) 20:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * After being discharged from the military he found his talents lay in the art of torture, and hired out his services for any client who required information and wasn't squeamish about the methods employed to get it. "Lob" is a cranky old bald man with two huge lobster claws emerging from his back, and is part of a long tradition in 2000 AD. ...? Weird.
 * ... we usually call it lobscouse in sunny Liverpool. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I am. I am what I am. Calm. Hafspajen (talk) 22:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sing it, our Gloria!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Marty's talk... Hafspajen (talk) 22:44, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Marty dance. Hafspajen (talk) 13:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
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Season's Greetings

Martin, wishing you a fulfilled and peaceful festive season. (Do you do 'festive'?) (Hope you don't get as cold as this scene looks...) Best wishes from a partner in crime, PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Brrrrrrrr! That's so cold, I've already got double vision!! But thank you. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2014 (UTC) ah yes, festive is just fine thanks!
 * You got good vision for languages, such as Simple English. There are also Africans, Arabic, Belarussian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese, Danish, Dutch, Hebrew, Hungarian, Japanese, Latin, Marathi, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Romanian, Russian, Scotts, Welsh and more. - Btw, only two more days for my Christmas music on top of my talk (then only in archive), - do I deserve "partner in crime" also, criminal me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha yes: even very simple articles can get a "blwch gwybodaeth". Martinevans123 (talk) 14:13, 30 December 2014 (UTC) p.s. at least you're not a "vagrant"...
 * Haha yes, and why not? Well organised, ready to be translated ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays...

 * Many thanks, 78.26! You too. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

 * Thank you. That's very jolly! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:29, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Nollaig

 * That's very nice, thankyou. Great to see a "Gaelic type" on the page! All the best for 2015. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Jay Leno: Where do they speak Gaelic?
 * Contestant: Um... San Francisco?
 * EEng (talk) 14:03, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:06, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * These days, money would be more appropriate. Sca (talk) 16:40, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Dude, "holding their head in a hand" seems a rather unusual contysruction? The fuck. Even I can spell better than that. Ceoil (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It's "anarchaic" spelling. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Foiled. I didnt realise it was an art statement. Very good. Carry on. I'll get you yet. Ceoil (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Greets

 * <font color="#006633"> Merry Christmas & Happy New Year


 * Frohe Weinachten und
 * alles gute zur neuen Jahr!


 * Wesołych Świąt i
 * Szczęśliwego nowego roku!


 * Linksmų Kalėdų ir
 * laimingų Naujųjų Metų!


 * Sca (talk) 16:36, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * What permissive Swedish amphibian, botheration, darling Evans? Hafspajen (talk) 15:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * THeses are two Salt and pepper shakers having a deep mindful exchange. Nothing of the kind you think. Hafspajen (talk) 15:35, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * They just look like frogs .... Hafspajen (talk) 15:37, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, we have to thank Sweden for that charming little amphibian hero, don't we Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

One never knows what's making you famous, H e r r i n g , M i d s u m m e r ’ s E v e , f o l k c o s t u m e s , t h e N o b e l P r i z e a n d t h e f r e e d o m t o r o a m . Hafspajen (talk) 20:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * In your case, Hafs, pretty obviously it's freedom to lurk. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:40, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I am a WikiFairy. Hafspajen (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * You are so Yeah Yeah Wow Wow, now ghat kind of silly song you composed, Martin?

Ferry fire
"People die. What else is new"? — Who's that a quote from?
 * Apropos:
 * CYNIC, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
 * —Ambrose Bierce

Sca (talk) 15:00, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sincere apologies, I obviously need a crystal ball. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:07, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Aw, nuts!
EEng (talk) 21:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, Korean furry nuts are all the rage, I hear. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, wonder if Heather Cho likes cats. Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Heather Chow? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha. Doggie bags.... are dangerous, whote the Guantanamo Bay Gazette. Hafspajen (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * This should go over even better than "grilled on the witness stand" -- think it will run? EEng (talk) 21:41, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Might get a few hits, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It might score high on Rictus scale  for earthquake intensity, as pertains to later media coverage of the event. Hafspajen (talk) 22:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Annoyingbot. That's rich. Hope you saw the brutalist gay elephant and thwarted early marriages. EEng (talk) 05:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Happy New Year Martinevans123!
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Happy New Year! Martinevans123, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Hafspajen (talk) 10:01, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.
 * So, now you want sheep to? Hafspajen (talk) 12:23, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Clifton Suspension Bridge
Hi Martin, Spotted your revert on Clifton Suspension Bridge - edit edit said suicide with todays date - I can't see anything on BBC news etc - it is probably just vandalism but could this be something someone is about to do - should we take it to ANI or somewhere?&mdash; Rod talk 20:23, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, I guess so. As it was an ip edit. Maybe it checks out on Facebook or somewhere? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've emailed emergency @wmf just in case.&mdash; Rod talk 20:28, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The geolocate seems a bit odd? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This does not look good. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've also sent an oversight request which may remove the persons name. I didn't think of geolocation but I believe these to be quite inaccurate depending on your ISP.&mdash; Rod talk 20:44, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * How do we know what happens about this? It's very worrying. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Following an email from Ghmyrtle, who has contacted the A&S Police I have emailed again to emergency @ wmf with an update & copied in Ghmyrtle but didn't know your email address to CC you. I have not heard anything back from them as yet.&mdash; Rod talk 21:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll send you my email. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Both the police and Wikimedia have told me that they are looking into it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have now seen your email. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good work, you guys. If this girl is really feeling this bad perhaps it will help her to know that even strangers care. EEng (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The IP locates to Paintsville, Kentucky. I did not realise that Mikrotec Internet Services was even available in the UK. But the location for the Twitter account is Lancashire. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure the police and WMF will do what's necessary, although the rest of that Twitter page casts a particular light on the whole matter..... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:06, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes. I see what you mean. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In an abundance of caution for now, the less said the better, I think. EEng (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I see the post on the article has been suppressed, but I've not had nay feedback about whether what we did was appropriate - hopefully a positive outcome.&mdash; Rod talk 07:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I got an email from Wikimedia thanking me, but have heard nothing overnight. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:45, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You did do the right thing, but I suspect that from this point forward you won't hear anything. I suggest this thread be archived and if indeed you hear more you discuss by email. EEng (talk) 13:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree. I've seen nothing in the local press about this. One hopes that's a good sign. Or maybe it's just too soon. But I see that this happened only a couple, of years ago. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 31 March 2015 (UTC)