User talk:Martinharveyallchurch

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 14)
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— Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:35, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I am new to the world of Wikipedia, so need to learn how to do things. I had attempted to insert links in the body of the text as verifiable references and sources, but will try to extract them and include them specifically as references. Thanks again, MartinMartinharveyallchurch (talk) 20:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lorenzo Allchurch (2) (May 15)
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— Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 09:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
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Thanks for your time in reviewing but I have tried to be as objective as I can be in the item. All the content is verifiable. I acknowledge that Lorenzo is my son - that much is obvious by the use of my real name. I had put links to various Wikipedia pages since I thought it was standard practice, so I will remove those. Other than the links - which I now see are considered spamming - are there specific issues that worry you in the item? I would appreciate your views. Thanks MartinMartinharveyallchurch (talk) 16:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think he's notable enough, or at least the current references (in your latest draft, which I only declined because it was a duplicate draft) don't prove that notability. I'm not seeing extensive coverage in reliable, independent sources. I have both of the drafts in my watchlist (please edit the original one), but if you should submit it again then I'll let some other reviewer make the decision. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, this is going round in circles here. I think that I abandon for the moment perhaps? In terms of Lorenzo's notoriety, he has shot up in the past month from 250,000+ to around 37,800 in the IMDb rankings which given that he is a child and the number of actors out there is not bad. The fact that his first film is showing at Cannes Short Film Corner has certainly had an effect, and his new film will boost that even further and perhaps once that is released an entry would be appropriate. Thanks again for your time. MartinMartinharveyallchurch (talk) 19:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Waiting is always a good option when in doubt. You can always return to the draft later. Drafts that haven't been edited in six months may get deleted but it's also always possible to request undeletion. Also, if you could just actually read our notability (not notoriety) policy on people (Notability (people)) then you may get a better idea of what notability means here. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 07:35, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Lorenzo Allchurch (2)


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.  Onel 5969  TT me 19:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)