User talk:Marudubshinki/Archive 46

SW template formatting advice
Nope, I didn't. Thanks for the advice. Redd Dragon 23:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. (I was getting tired of fixing them, and I didn't really feel by siccing my bot on your edits). --maru  (talk)  contribs 23:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

State redirect errors
Some of your new redirects aren't working, I think because instead of ASCII character's you're pulling the urls'? Which have combinations of characters instead of the actual character. Sorry, I can never figure out how to say this, but basically instead of it being (Arizona) it's %28Arizone%28, or something like that, which makes the redirect not work. --Mak (talk)  04:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Damn. I was afraid of this: I'm using the us-states.py pywikipediabot script for these, and I've already run into Unicode bugs (but at least those only crash the bot!); I guess I'll have to go back through my contribs and manually fix these. :( Oh well. How many could there be? --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was wondering if you were using something bot-ish. I've run into this problem before while NewPages patrolling. Too bad :( Good luck though :) Mak (talk)  04:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! Please stop creating new redirects, they doesn't work :/ (See your most recent edits and the "New pages" log ). Neurillon 05:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Running without a bot flag
Please stop making mass automated edits. You're violating WP:BOT in a big way. You should not run any large-scale automated process without asking at Bots/Requests for approvals, and if you don't have a bot flag, you need to get one if you want to edit more than once or twice a minute. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 04:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Simetrical requested I block your bot because it was running too fast, so I've gone ahead and issued a 1 hour block until you two sort it out. Unblock yourself as you please, but please refrain from using the bot until you guys figure it all out. Raul654 05:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Several problems here, to clarify:


 * 1) You're running a large-scale automated process without approval. This is bad.  Bots need approval from WP:RFBA before they're run, or they're (supposed to be) blocked.  (You could probably get approval easily enough for this.)
 * 2) You're running it off your own account. Generally bots should be run off a separate account name, so they can be easily distinguished, don't mess up edit counts, and can be blocked separately.
 * 3) You're running it way too fast. Bots without a bot flag are generally limited to about two edits per minute so that they don't clog up recent changes.  (This isn't a fake issue; see WP:VPA.)  Flagged bots (which don't show up on recent changes) are allowed to run at about six edits per minute, maybe somewhat more, to avoid server load.
 * 4) It's screwing up. A number of the redirects it creates are invalid and aren't treated as redirects.  Therefore, they a) don't work and b) show up on Special:Newpages (which was taken up mostly by your bot's mistakes until you were blocked).  Of course, it's all reversible.

WP:BOT is official policy, formed by general consensus and for good reasons. This case, I'm afraid, is pretty much exactly the reason the policy was instituted. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 05:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I couldn't give a shit about you running a bot, but because its redirects aren't unicodified, they don't work as redirects, so the software doesn't realize they're redirects and put them in Special:Newpages, making it virtually unreadable and unpatrollable, it's probably best if you don't run it until that's fixed. --Rory096 05:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, they should probably be tagged with --Rory096 05:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I've blocked you until you can come back to the computer, so you can stop the bot and unblock yourself then.
 * 05:49, June 5, 2006 Mike Halterman blocked "Marudubshinki (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Simetrical brought to my attention in IRC that your unapproved bot is making newpages unreadable. Unblock yourself when you come back to the computer. Thanks! :)) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 05:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The form being used (with the state abbreviation all caps) makes it so a user entering the name and hitting "go" must enter it in an exact case match. You might want to consider using initial capital only for the redirect if the primary point is "go" navigation rather than inter-article links (links are always case sensitive). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've unblocked myself, and I'll try to address everyone's concerns. --maru  (talk)  contribs 20:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) For future reference, the indefinite block was a bit too long. I don't know of any bots that don't time out within a few hours, so 24 hours would've done the trick.
 * 2) I know about the bot regulations, and I have a bot account which is waiting for approval; however, I've grown impatient (I've been waiting for something like 2 weeks now), and started using my main account for things like disambiguation and category moving which I'd been holding off on, waiting for approval. I probably shouldn't have opened that door to temptation, but I've never been particularly patient.
 * 3) Similarly, I've put in bug reports for the erroneous redirects. The maintainer fixed the first bug pretty quickly, so hopefully the others will be fixed shortly, and then I can go back and fix the broken redirects.

selflinks
You have a robot removing selflinks.

Is it absolutely necessary for your robot to remove those selflinks from inside pairs? --Geo Swan 18:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely necessary? No, not really, but I don't see it doing any harm, either. --maru  (talk)  contribs 18:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * What you call selflinks show up in bold. Which I don't consider a big deal.  But, if that reference could also be useful in a related article, and you paste it into that other article, what you called a self-link points to the main article.  Here are a couple of examples: Khalden training camp, Casio F91W. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo Swan (talk • contribs)


 * Such copy-and-pastes need to be reformatted to fit in their new environment, anyway, and if references are being recycled that much, the best course is often to make an article on that reference, regardless. --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Fast deleting of PRODs
Hello Maru. I am also an admin who has been deleting prods today (for the 31/5 set). I am wondering how you can delete so many so quickly, more than 10-15 per minute. At the moment I can only do about four. Do you have a tool which speeds things up? Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC).


 * Nope. I simply have a tabbed browser called Firefox. I open up a letter or two's worth of PRODS, go through them all in order (opening up the delete windows in hidden tabs as I go), and then with my mad l33tt keyboard prowess, delete'em. --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Proded redirect
You were wondering why I proded a redirected template. Simple - as said in the PROD - it was orphaned after the template had been moved and all uses of it had been adjusted to the new location. --Agathoclea 06:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * But is that any guarantee it would stay orphaned? --maru  (talk)  contribs 16:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of article on Katia Kapovich
Hi. I see you deleted the article Katia Kapovich ... somehow I must have missed the discussion on this one ... where can I find the discussion page? I believe she definitely warrants an article, although what was there may not have made her importance clear enough. Anyhow, I'd like to see the discussion before recreating the page. --Stumps 11:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * d'oh ... I see it was a PROD ... ho hummm, sorry I missed it getting tagged. I've recreated the article, and started adding a little more detail. --Stumps 13:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Better luck next time. I'm glad to see that this time some notability claims have been added. --maru  (talk)  contribs 16:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi (anon blocking request)
We need an immediate block on this user. Repeated rapid vandalism... Thanks. --Adambiswanger1 19:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. But normally this sort of thing is handled by Administrator intervention against vandalism. --maru  (talk)  contribs 19:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yea, normally I would do that, but he vandalized a few pages in a short amount of time, so I clicked on the first admin I saw. Thanks for your help. --Adambiswanger1 20:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. --maru  (talk)  contribs 20:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Friend
I added your name to this. Check it out and put your sig over my generic link, if you don't mind your name being there. Thanks! the_ed17 (T)(C) (P)(U) (F)(WW)  02:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

You archived!
You archived, the Apocalypse is coming! :-O -- Jedi6 -(need help?)  03:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The wiki hit a million articles, GWB was elected president twice, Redwolf24 burned out - these are all portents and signs! Don't blame me, the messenger, for it was written that they shall have eyes, and not see articles, ears and not hear ogg files... --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Next up on the Apocalypse countdown: Willy on Wheels becomes an admin! Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, that happened last year. It kept the Wikipedia Index in a tizzy for weeks! --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey he was over the 75% support mark. Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/April Fools' Day 2005/Willy on Wheels for admin :-) Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, and that was exactly why the policy wonks went crazy attacking the process wonks and vice versa. Quite a flamewar! --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Awww. I missed all the fun :-( If I tried to do that I would probably be blocked on spot. Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Probably! Heck, your username already looks like a sock (I can just imagine another admin looking at it and going, "Hmm. I wonder what happened to the other 5 Jedi?"). --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Well Jedi1 died of dehydration, Jedi2's page was moved to Jedi4's page by Willy on Wheels which caused them both to gang up on Jedi3. Then Jedi5 proceeded to destroy them both by tricking them into starting a wheel war over a userbox. Finally one day Jedi5's apprentice Jedi6 overthrew him when he wasn't looking. Jedi6  -(need help?)  04:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * If I became your apprentice... would I be able to save Padme? --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes but you must give into your anger. You must kill your former master and friend. Just make sure that if Padme comes to plead to you and you find your former master with her, Don't force choke her, you can't believe what happened last time. Jedi6  -(need help?)  04:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I... must kill Jon Hart? But what about Deckiller? --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Don't you worry about Deckiller, muhuhaha. Jedi6  -(need help?)  05:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, my master. He is either with us or against us. --maru  (talk)  contribs 17:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You archive and then Wikipedia suffers a major power failure and is down for 6 hours. Coincidence? Jedi6 -(need help?)  02:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You can't prove anything- the power failure happened the next day, and there is no possible consequence one day later that could explain it, so I am dismayed at your weckless weckless accusations. --maru  (talk)  contribs 02:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love editing … I love Wikipedia. The power you give me I will lay down when this (power) crisis has abated. And as my first act with this new authority, I will create a Grand Army of the Wiki to counter the increasing threats of Wookieepedia." -- Jedi6 -(need help?)  03:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * So this is how fancruft dies... to applause and laughter. --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I need your help son... I am counting on you to be the eyes, ears and voice of the Wiki. Marudubshinki, I am appointing you to be my personal representative on the Administrators' noticeboard. -- Jedi6 -(need help?)  03:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Surely the Cabal will make me an administrator now! --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Admin or bureaucrat. Jedi6  -(need help?)  03:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * What did you say? --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm offering you power, ultimate power. -- Jedi6 -(need help?)  04:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Real Ultimate Power?
 * /me gasps
 * You're the Vandal Lord the Cabal has been searching for! --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of Jimbo Wales and the Cabal! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary Admin . . . a life of significance, of conscience. Jedi6  -(need help?)  04:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You're POVed! --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Are you going to ban me? Jedi6  -(need help?)  04:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I would certainly like to! --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I know you would. I can feel your POV. It gives you focus, makes you revert. Jedi6  -(need help?)  06:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I am going to turn you over to the cabal! --maru  (talk)  contribs 14:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Of course you should. But you're not sure of their intentions, are you? What if I am right and they are plotting to take over Wikipedia, or worse? Jedi6  -(need help?)  23:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I will quickly verify your unsourced edit. --maru  (talk)  contribs 23:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You have great barnstars, Marudubshinki. Know the power of editcountitis. The power to save Padme.
 * I am not going anywhere. You have time to unblock my fate. Perhaps you'll reconsider and help me rule the wiki for the good of the Internet. -- Jedi6 -(need help?)  23:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Pfft, don't listen to him. I've seen them come and go, those snot-nosed punks who decimate entire planets and kill millions. Happens all the time. Like this last guy, he actually ended up trying to convert his son into a Sith! Would you imagine that pervert... _-M    o    P-_  05:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Just look at what happened to that pervert and his master! Stay with us, Maru. Stay with the light!!!! '''the_ed17(talk)Use these! ''' 19:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * But... I have to save my article, Padme! I love it! --maru  (talk)  contribs 22:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No, you don't HAVE to. You just WANT to. Think of all you've learned. Jedi6 is evil. We are good. the_ed17(talk)Use these!  14:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know what to believe now! --maru  (talk)  contribs 20:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? You know what is right, deep down in your heart.  the_ ed1  7   02:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I used to be so sure, but now when I feel my heart, all I feel is the char of burning out... --maru  (talk)  contribs 02:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Ummmmm, ok then, look deep inside your head for your friends who aren't evil like Jedi6. The "need help" in his sig is just a ploy to draw in poor, tortured souls like yours, Maru.  the_ ed1  7   14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't like your tone robot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimster 260 (talk • contribs).


 * Robot!?  the_ ed1  7   06:18, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Attention...Attention!
Random picture of the day (formerly User:GeorgeMoney/potd) has been nominated for deletion by Hetar because he doesn't like a (now abolished) rule that could have just been discussed on the talk page instead of nominating it for deletion. Please vote on the MfD page. Thanks,  the_ed17 (T) (C) (P) <sub style="font-family:Book Antiqua; color:#CC0000;">(F) <sup style="font-family:Book Antiqua;">(WW)  14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I've voted. --maru  (talk)  contribs 17:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

North West 200 2006
I was trying to find the right sponsor for the race, so I wanted to see if it worked ok. I was categorizing but it came out of it without any changes. :( --Cs-wolves 18:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * All's well which ends well. --maru  (talk)  contribs 18:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)