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 * Please see my favorite musical metaphor for how Wikipedia works :-) for  MaryMO (AR) (talk) 15:35, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll see your Ode to Joy and raise you a Coat of Many Colors Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:01, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * Just a follow up, in case of confusion. Both me and had reviewed at the same time. While he had arrived at the review above, I performed a round-robin move to bring it into the mainspace thinking it is ok. Nonetheless, a promo tag has been placed on the article. Cheers. – robertsky (talk) 17:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Editor-in-chief
Gallagher is EiC of all AR journals, from astronomy to psychology??? Note that the "editor" field in the journal infobox is for the EiC, not for secondary editors, which we don't even list in the body of text, either. However, I suspect that AR is just using EiC in an unusual way, with Gallagher overseeing things that are common to all AR journals, with the "co-editors" in fact fulfilling the roles of EiC for the respective journals. Please clarify. --Randykitty (talk) 21:32, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, Correct, Gallagher is officially titled EiC of all AR journals, even though other people are the lead editors who head up the teams for the individual journals. Wikipedia's use of "editor-in-chief" therefore doesn't align well with the titles used at Annual Reviews, where the senior or lead editors take the title "Editor" or "Co-editor" and the rest of the people working to edit the edition are referred to as being on the editorial committee (and would not be listable as editors on Wikipedia or Wikidata.) In the case of the individual journals I could see maybe using editor the first time the term is referenced, but using the term "editor-in-chief" openly in the text is both confusing and actually wrong, given AR's use of titles.  MaryMO (AR) (talk) 21:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * In terms of Wikipedia's definition of "editor-in-chief" as "a publication's editorial leader who has final responsibility for its operations and policies." that's Gallagher for all of them; the lead editors determine what's going in each issue in terms of content, but Gallagher sets policy. So in that sense using "Editor" for everyone else is appropriate. MaryMO (AR) (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * That downgrades the positions in terms of how we see Wikipedia notability, and is not consistent with other groups of journals. (eic is enough for notability of an individual under WP:PROF, but not other editors)  There's a difference between working responsibility and overall supervision. Functionally, in a review journal  normally the e-ic of a title is the one who invites contributors and accepts their articles. The other editors for that title recommend  contributors, and work with individual contributors and articles. The group manager,  Gallagher, is responsibility for the eic of each title doing their job responsibly, and, presumably, appointing them. Or does Gallagher look at the individual articles in all of the titles and accept personal responsibility for approving each individual one of them?  DGG ( talk ) 22:08, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, I see I could have phrased that last paragraph better, to distinguish between "operations and policies" of the organization as a whole and "operations and policies" of each individual journal.  My apologies. At Annual Reviews, Gallagher has the official titles of  "Editor-in-chief" and of "President". His role is primarily executive, focusing on the "operations and policies" of the organization as  a whole, rather than the "operations and policies" of the individual journals. He represents the organization publicly. He does sit on the various editorial committees.   He is the only person CALLED an editor-in-chief at Annual Reviews, in part for historical reasons.  The first two journals had the same founding editor-in-chief, J. Murray Luck, who also started the organization. As more journals were added, additional founding and lead editors were added to develop additional individual journals, but Luck and his successors have retained the official title of "Editor-in-chief".


 * The "Editor" (or "Co-Editor") of each journal performs the role of editor-in-chief as Wikipedia defines the term. They hold responsibility for the "operations and policies" of that particular journal, leading its editorial committee. They are specialists in their field, determine the content, invite authors to contribute to the journal, represent the journal (but not the organization) publicly, etc. Cf. JOURNAL. The people who set policy for the journal are designated as "'CO-EDITORS OF THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF POLITICAL SCIENCE - VOLUME 24, 2021". The job that they do matches what Wikipedia calls an editor-in-chief. They work with other "COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF POLITICAL SCIENCE - VOLUME 24, 2021" who may also be significant in their field and might be considered notable based on other criteria on Wikipedia, but would not meet the notability specification as defined for an editor-in-chief.  STAFF like the Production Editor  who does the nitpicky layout-and-management-work of producing the journal, definitely would not be considered notable.


 * So there's an awkward disconnect between use of the title and the role. If you use "Editor-in-chief" referring to the lead editors, someone is going to say "But that's wrong, it says Richard Gallagher is the Editor-in-chief." They'd be right that he holds that title.  If you use "Editor" for the lead editors, then their role is not clearly indicated as far as Wikipedia is concerned, opening up the question of who is notable.  I'm not sure there's a great solution.  Previous discussion was to link editor so that the term shown was editor, but the term linked back to editor-in-chief.  Maybe there needs to be more on the draft or on the individual journals to explicitly distinguish between the title and the role. I would value your thoughts, MaryMO (AR) (talk) 21:43, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrolled?
Hi, have you considered applying for WP:AUTOPAT status for this account to avoid the need for articles you create to be patrolled? -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion, I've just put in a request. MaryMO (AR) (talk) 14:28, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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A few images by way of copyright scanning thanks
I look for images for articles occasionally. As part of that work, I was looking for copyright renewal information, and found that https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/cce/1951r.html says "The images above were scanned by ... and Mary Mark Ockerbloom..." at much the same time that a Wikipedia editor named Mary Mark Ockerbloom is thanking me for adding an image to Natacha Aguilar de Soto! These are both you, I'm guessing? Thank you so much for doing that! Here, have a few more images for your articles:

May add more later. --GRuban (talk) 21:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow!, these images are terrific. I particularly like the one of Anne S. Tsui with the flowers behind her; it gives a sense of personality. And yes, that's both me. For a while, I was republishing out-of-copyright books (many with images) at A Celebration of Women Writers at Upenn.  That project predates my being involved in Wikipedia, so with a couple of exceptions I've never gotten around to moving them to Commons.  MaryMO (AR) (talk) 21:41, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Draft of an article on an Austrian political scientist
Dear colleague, I have seen that you take an active interest in writing good Wikipedia articles on political scientists. Would you please have a look at this particular article on an Austrian political scientist, whose Festschrift is forthcoming with Springer in 2023? Regards Austrian political observer (talk) 10:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC) The draft is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arno_Tausch


 * Hi Mary, it may be illuminating to have a look at the (rather tortured) history of this draft, in particular Articles for deletion/Arno Tausch (4th nomination). Happy editing! --Randykitty (talk) 23:03, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi I've done my best to clean up the sourcing for you.  I condensed the final section into a couple of short paragraphs since I felt it wasn't possible to write a balanced discussion of the impact of his work with the listed sources. Hopefully the Festschrift will better address his significance as well as demonstrating criteria for notability.  I did feel that the list of books was rather heavily skewed towards his work on the middle east.  Best wishes, MaryMO (AR) (talk) 00:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much indeed! Austrian political observer (talk) 21:05, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

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AREES
Hi Mary! I am a big fan of this journal since 90's. Howe & Smallwood (1982) is my favourite, but I have read many others and looked on all issues. I tried explain my reversal in summary. Sounds good for you? Please, when you encounter Douglas Futuyama take a photo and an autograph of him for us. Cheers! Ixocactus (talk) 01:57, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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I was wondering if you were familiar with this particular incident. Cheers! BD2412 T 16:44, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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