User talk:Marycnagler

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 * Thank you so much! I will make sure to add these
 * Marycnagler (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC) to my next edit.

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Marycnagler/sandbox


A tag has been placed on User:Marycnagler/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello Fancy Refrigerator, I humbly request you remove the speedy deletion nomiation. I am posting an informational page about eSecureDocs.  I humbly ask for any advice on edits to the article.  I am not being paid for this article.  Many Thanks, Mary Marycnagler (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Fancy Refrigerator, I am the founder of eSecureDocs.  Should I state that in the article?   Is that what is missing?  I am sorry for all of the messages, this if my first post on Wikipedia.  My apologies for my inexperience.  Thanks, Mary Marycnagler (talk) 21:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to disclose your connections. See the Wikipedia guideline at WP:Conflict of interest. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 16:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yea, please read and heed WP:PAID.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:57, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

March 2023
Hello Marycnagler. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Marycnagler. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Draft:ESecureDocs. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)



Hello, Marycnagler. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. The page Draft:ESecureDocs has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

This article needs to be rewritten from scratch from reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an outlet for promotion, advocacy, or advertising.

Information on content and common pitfalls to avoid can be located here and here, however be aware that this is not an exhaustive list. Pages can sometimes avoid these pitfalls and still be seen as an ad copy or unambiguously promotional, particularly if the editor appears to be a paid editor or has some other conflict of interest. Please review these policies, including the FAQ page on organizations to determine if this applies to you.

Common mistakes or beliefs about promotional editing center on the assumption that promotional editing only applies to promotion for commercial gain. Some tags or G11 nominations are met with confusion by creators, particularly if they spend much time reading or creating corporate documents, mission/vision statements, or similar copy for their organization. The frequent exposure to promotional tone may make it difficult to notice non-neutral phrases or styles, as the editor has grown accustomed to seeing it as everyday writing or speech. This can be difficult, but not impossible, to unlearn.

Another common assumption is that the prohibition against promotional editing applies only to businesses or organizations. Anything can be promoted, including a person, a non-commercial organization, a point of view, etc. and CV/resumé's are by their nature promotional.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources that are  unconnected with the subject and providing verifiable information. '''That generally means someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. ''' Please see this page on citing sources and Common sourcing mistakes (notability). This page has templates you can use in citing your sources. Place the template at the bottom of the page, and references cited in the text will appear there. New article creation can be difficult, but the Article Wizard can help you. The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat. The Wikipedia Adventure is a useful tutorial.

New article creation can be difficult and frustrating. Sometimes it is better to first gain experience by fixing and helping maintain existing articles. Community portal/Opentask contains links to things that badly need doing, if you are so inclined. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Marycnagler. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:ESecureDocs, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Marycnagler. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ''The compensation need not be financial. If you receive any good for creating this page, even the praise and adoration of you co-workers, it is considered paid editing for the purposes of needing to make disclosure.'' -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Deepfriedokra, Thank you for the feedback. I am re-doing the page and removing the references to the eSecureDocs website. I am the founder of eSecureDocs and made a reference on my username that I am the founder.  I received feedback from another user that I needed to disclose my connection to eSecureDocs and he recommended I do that.   Hopefully with the change of removing the link to the eSecureDocs website the article will meet the Wikipedia standards.
 * Many Thanks for your help. Marycnagler (talk) 15:55, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I guess that is sufficient. I don't know. You might want to get help at the WP:TEAHOUSE for the sourcing issues. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:ESecureDocs


A tag has been placed on Draft:ESecureDocs, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 15:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: ESecureDocs (March 24)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:ESecureDocs and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:ESecureDocs Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KylieTastic&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:ESecureDocs reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

KylieTastic (talk) 16:34, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Kyle, I appreciate your feedback and thank you for taking the time to look at my article.  This is my third article I submitted and I made the changes suggested by the other users.  Are you able to provide any suggestions in order to get my article published?  I have inserted a reference that I am one of the founders of eSecureDocs and made a reference to the SMU Incubator which we are a part of.  Is there anything else I can change in order to get this article published?  Should I remove the information describing eSecureDocs Product?  I based our article off of PandaDoc.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
 * Many Thanks for any assistance. Marycnagler (talk) 16:41, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

March 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Bbb23 (talk) 20:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Bob, I have been trying to post an article describing my company eSecureDocs. This is to be an informational article describing the organization similar to DocuSign or Pandadoc. I have posted 3 articles and incorporated the advice of the users which deleted the previous articles.  I am looking for feedback on how to post an article and humbly ask for your feedback on what I can do to fix my article to meet your standards.  I noticed you blocked by account and ask for your help and feedback on this issue.
 * Many Thanks for your help provided. Marycnagler (talk) 20:55, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for you to promote your company. That's the only "help" I can provide.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)