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Hello Quibik. Thank you for your remarks.

Pictures were taken by me and was first published at Matematička gimnazija website (if published).

This material can be found usually at News Archive at Matematička gimnazija website, http://www.mg.edu.rs/onama/arhiva-novosti

Pictured of Matematička gimnazija building were taken by me, a week ago.

For future reference: all the material from Matematička gimnazija website is treated as released into the public domain.

As for this:

>> 16:16, 26 June 2010 Quibik (talk | contribs) (31,806 bytes) (Images arranged as galleries is generally not a good style (MOS:IMAGES). These images are copyright violations as well.) (undo)

...I don't know how to put pictures and would appreciate your help with this. Pictures are not copyright violations, as now expained.

>> (cur | prev) 16:56, 26 June 2010 Quibik (talk | contribs) (26,079 bytes) (→Diploma relative value: provided reference does not support the made claims) (undo)

Provided reference (in Serbian) reads titles awarded, for instance: http://www.mg.edu.rs/skolovanje/bivsi-ucenici

"МТ сарадник" (abbreviation: МТС) means "Associate in Mathematics and Technics/Engineering" (AMT)

МТС Програмер means "Associate in Mathematics and Technics/Engineering" in Programming (computer/sowtware)(AMT-P)

Статистичар means Statistician

Техничар за нуклеарну физику means Technician for Laser Physics

"МТС МТ сарадник" means "МТС" equals "МТ сарадник"

"МТС Статистичар" means AMT in Statistics

"МТС техничар за нуклеарну физику" means AMT and specialized technician for nuclear physics

"МТС техничар за ласерску физику" means AMT and specialized technician in laser physics

"МТС Оператер на рачунару" means AMT and computer operations researcher

etc.

Thank you for your kind help.

Mategim (talk) 09:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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You may wish to read Image_copyright_tags/All and Image_copyright_tags which will assist you :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Problem resolved by adding required info. Mategim (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Problem resolved by adding required info. Mategim (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Problem resolved by adding required info. Mategim (talk) 00:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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I wanted to apologize for the deletion notice spam on the talk page, that was not my goal. Feel free to delete them. I just wanted you to be aware of the images that have been tagged. The images you uploaded have already been delete once. Please take note of the problem: the images lack any source and author information. All images uploaded on Wikipedia must include information on the author (the owner of the copyright: the photographer) and if you are not the author then also the source of the image. I should also remind, that the authorship of the images can not be simply attributed to Matematička gimnazija: the photographers must have given an explicit agreement to license the images with the one that you uploaded them with. If you are not the author (as in person, not organization), then the permission must be confirmed via WP:OTRS. I am sorry if all this sounds overly bureaucratic, but Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Please upload the images to Wikimedia Commons, if you do, in the future. That way the images are also accessible to other Wikipedias (i.e. Serbian) and are easier to find. I'll be glad to help out with that, if needed. Also, about the image of the school logo: why not license that image with a free license too (that way it can be used on other language Wikipedias too, for example)?

I should also mention that using organizational usernames is frowned upon and they are usually banned on Wikipedia (though I have chosen not to report the issue to any administrators in this case): please see WP:ORGNAME. Quibik (talk) 23:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind help and notifications. Rules are rules, and we must obey them.

In my real life I don't have those "copyright" problems you mentioned, since every picture I take, and every picture I post anywhere (be it printed material or internet) are free to use, without any restrictions whatsoever.

The same goes with MG website: everything published there is free for use, including copy, modify and distribute, to anyone; no limits whatsoever. That's why I attributed Matematička gimnazija. I can change that, if you like, but now can't remember which pictures were attributed to MG. :-)

I could use some help in future, with uploading images to Wikimedia Commons ... thank you. Mategim (talk) 01:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

"Also, about the image of the school logo: why not license that image with a free license too (that way it can be used on other language Wikipedias too, for example)?" Quibik (talk) 23:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you send me (here, or email) a code that I could/should include (i.e. copy/paste) to appropriate place, so that the logo becomes free licensed? Thank you in advance. Mategim (talk) 01:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

As for the school's article: I am happy to see interest in developing the article from the school, but this brings forth a serious issue: please see WP:conflict of interest. I have indicated the problem with a tag on the article. And I have to say that to me the article indeed looks far from neutral. This can only be alleviated by willing, unrelated editors going over the article. I unfortunately don't feel that I have the time or interest to go into that great depth with this article. But I hope someone else will. —Quibik (talk) 23:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your sincere opinion. It may seem odd to have one mayor contributor for a school with such results, I agree with you. However, it seems even more strange not to have any contributors (to article about Matematička gimnazija) at all, isn't it? That's why I decided to put some work on this and, hopefully, other people will join and maintain this effort.

About "far from neutral" remark... I truly appreciate your frankness, but everything stated in the article is true. It is simply collected from Monograph of Matematička gimnazija, published for its 40th anniversary, then 44th anniversary, from MG website, from major TV stations and newspapers, as well as from Serbian President's and Belgrade City Mayor's press releases.

Matematička gimnazija really is special school with results as described. It may seem not to be neutral, but I have put only facts in the article. For instance, 2 weeks ago, Serbian national team for the International Olympiad in Mathematics, comprised of 6 students, all of whom are from Matematička gimnazija, won 1 gold, 3 silver, and 2 bronze medals. Link is given in the article. In 2009, MG students won 25 medals only at IMO, IPhO, Int. Olympiad in Informatics, I.O. in Astronomy, I.O. in Astrophysics, and I.O. in Earth Sciences. in 2010 Cambridge University gave 7 FULL scholarships to 7 students from D-department of the final year of MG. You know that Cambridge never gave 7 scholarships to a WORLD REGION, not to mention to ONE COUNTRY, or ONE SCHOOL. Since it happens that every year students from MG score among the best at Cambridge (and not only Cambridge), people from Cambridge (and director of Cambridge Trust) visited MG to see what MG looks like and how comes so many talented students come from this one school. There is a link about that story, too.

How comes I am the only contributor? Because Serbia is former communist and still a socialist country (in a sad transition to a cowboy capitalism), so people have no need for marketing; MG works just fine even without marketing, its students are admitted to MIT, Oxbridge, etc., even though MG has website only in Serbian, and, finally, MG is not a member of any international (or domestic) alliance ... except one international society for schools for gifted pupils. That says much about MG (and Serbian) management style: it seems they don't feel the need for marketing. :-) I understand it may seem bizarre to achieve such results and then have no presentation in English, or have no article on Wikipedia, but, hey, it's just the way it is with MG and n Serbia: things are doing well and no one from MG has the time, nor the motivation, to work on the translation of the website, or to make a good article on Wikipedia.

Please feel free to check all the information stated in this article, and compare it to official sources. Mategim (talk) 01:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, in the meantime, since the last update of MG article, Serbian national team won 5 medals at the International Physics Plympiad (IPhO); 5 members team comprised of 4 students from Matematička gimnazija, and 1 student from special school for informatics. All students won medals. :-) I guess we'll have to update the article, but I'll leave it to someone else this time (if nothing else - I will not be having internet for a while; going out of the city). :-)

Also, best student of Matematička gimnazija will be Serbian representative at the "Youth Olympics" that will be held this year (and for the first time). I think it will take place in Singapore, 14-26 August 2010, and in Berlin (as a European host city). I will ask people from MG to update this Wikipedia article with those new information.

Also, there will be other competitions this summer, so more results are to come...

I guess now that we have this basic article, other people will start to contribute regularly.

I thank you for your remarks, though; I understand your position and I'm glad Wikipedia works that way.

Mategim (talk) 01:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Please tell me if everything is okay with images now (i.e. if they are not going to be deleted). Thank you. Mategim (talk) 01:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

What's going on now??? While I'm talking here, someone is deleting all the files from MG article. Why?!? I tried to put "hangon" tag, but someone was sooo on a hurry to delete the images that he/she deleted them before I had the chance to write down my explanation (please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Matematička_gimnazija_-_MG_-_Patriarch_Irinej.jpg) Mategim (talk) 02:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

From one of the deleted pictures explanation:

"The picture IS at MG website, but I have put it there and it's free for anyone to use it.

If you have any doubts or questions, please contact me directly on my email (since I am leaving and will return only in 10 days ... perhaps too late to prevent the deletion ... and can not see what will be written here in the meantime), or contact MG officials (e-mail can be found at MG website), or ask me and I can provide you (not at this public page, of course) an email address of MG website administrator (@mi.sanu.ac.rs, Mathematical Institute of Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts), or email address of MG Principal (Mr. Srđan Ognjanović), so that they can clarify this matter.

Once again: every picture I put here or anywhere else on internet or in printed materials ... is FREE; free to use, distribute, change, or do whatever one wants, without any prior consent, notification, credits, rights, money, or whatsoever. Free, like a bird.

So, please, stop deleting pictures from article about Matematička gimnazija (MG), since all pictures are free to use them and I am happy if people use them.

Please tell me what should I do next, if this answer does not satisfy you.

Thank you." Mategim (talk) 02:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * A brief response to the image issues. The images were deleted because there is no confirmation that you are the copyright owner and not simply copying the images from the school website. I do believe you, but that is not enough. You have to confirm the permission to reuse these images with the given license. There are two ways to accomplish this: (a) you add the licensing information to the school's website (for example add a small license notice stating that the website's contents or images can be used with a Creative Commons Attribution (CC-BY) license or are in the public domain altogether ; http://creativecommons.org/choose/ might be helpful), (b) follow the procedures detailed in Declaration of consent for all enquiries, Requesting copyright permission might help too. Either method will work. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to help you with any questions you might still have in the following week, since I will be offline. But I hope that the image issues can be cleared with the information I just provided. Best wishes, Quibik (talk) 19:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Mathematical Gymnasium Belgrade: please add new photos
I've checked all the data at the article you started (Mathematical Gymnasium Belgrade) and rearranged it in a manner it now looks more like Wikipedia page. :-) I've shortened the lead and added new info and updated old and outdated info, plus added new subcategories and sub-chapters in the article. Please check the changes I've done and help make the page better.

Also, please add new photographs (if you have any), and give your opinion on this significant edit.

Thanks.

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