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I undid you edits to Boston Marathon bombings as the article you linked to describes a person not an act. Therefore lone wolf is not the type but would be an acceptable description of the perpetrators. XFEM Skier (talk) 18:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Can we discuss this on Talk:Boston Marathon bombings? I wrote a bit of stuff on there --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 18:24, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that, I agree that is the right place for it. XFEM Skier (talk) 18:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, sorry about the removal of the URL at Musa basjoo. I suspect, though, that readers with narrow screens won't find the relevant text, as it's not visible at the right unless you scroll. Still, it is correct. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't think anybody can edit Wikipedia these days without getting reverted a few times. No hard feelings. ☺
 * And yes, I wish there was a better URL, but the intersection of horticultural society and computer skills is pretty small. I was really happy that it was online at all... -- Mathnerd314159 (talk) 09:55, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Indoctrination
Would you mind clarifying your vote and position at Talk:Socialization? The nominator was banned for sockpuppetry, which has confused the matter, but I believe the proposal is worthy of discussion. Daask (talk) 12:49, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on The Cambridge Diet. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * As I read WP:Edit warring, it requires "repeatedly changing content back". I only did one revert, hence there's no repetition. I don't see how it could be an edit war. Of course it would be edit warring if I did two reverts. --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 19:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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Partially ordered set
Hi! Thanks for improving the caption. Indeed, the row-col order differs from Logical_matrix. I'd prefer nevertheless to keep x for the column and y for the row, since the is the usual order in cartesian coordinates. Maybe, the order in Logical_matrix could be mirrored (it seems to be unsourced, anyway)? - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 22:37, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Btw: The full (I hope) description of the image can be found at commons:File:PartialOrders redundencies.pdf. - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 22:42, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, the order for the logical matrix follows from the fact that the general order for a matrix element $$a_ij$$ is row, column. For example see File:Matrix.svg. I agree, it's annoying... but technically, you have matrices there, not graphs, so Cartesian coordinates don't apply. (Side note: the row-column order on matrix is unsourced too! But I feel like that's an oversight) --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 22:56, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The reference to general matrix order convinces me. I'll change the pictures and the caption. - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 09:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks! Happy new year! Mathnerd314159 (talk) 19:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, same to you! [my ad-hoc translation of the German default reply "Danke, gleichfalls!"; I hope it's ok] - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Julian calendar
In this edit you left the edit summary "aside: Since proleptic Gregorian is an ISO standard but proleptic Julian is not I would imagine proleptic Julian is used less".

In the historical papers and books I've read about the period in Europe and the Americas before the Gregorian calendar went into effect, the authors used the Julian calendar for all the times and places it was in force. It was in force for over 1600 years in Europe. During that time, a great many historical events occurred that could be dated to a specific date. Before 45 BC, when the Julian calendar began, the number of historical events that can be dated to a specific date is much less. So when referring to events in Europe and the Americas before 1583, I estimate the use of the Julian calendar greatly exceeds the use of the proleptic Gregorian calendar.

I have never read an article or book about history that made any mention of the International Organization for Standardization. I have read all but the latest version of ISO 8601, and participated in a discussion organized by the Library of Congress which heavily influenced the latest ISO 8601. In my view, the authors of all the versions before the latest had little or no interest in historical dates, and only cared about current dates such as airline reservations and financial transactions. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, the comparison is not between Julian and proleptic Gregorian; Julian was historically used to record dates and so would of course be more common in history discussing those time periods. Similarly in the history section of the article, the date was found based on the Julian calendar so using proleptic Julian makes sense there. The comparison is rather proleptic Gregorian vs proleptic Julian in the variants section. While there are a few history sources like  that use proleptic Julian, all the Maya stuff uses proleptic Gregorian, and all the calendrical calculation / programming sources use proleptic Gregorian. Similarly JD is the only entry using the proleptic Julian calendar - all the variants use Gregorian / proleptic Gregorian. Even if it's not historically the right format, giving the proleptic Gregorian date is much more convenient for people doing calculations using the dates in the table. --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 23:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Lead in Refocusing page
Hi Mathnerd314159,

Thanks for the update. Adding a lead is a good idea, thank you. I have revised it to make it more progressive and self-contained.

The depiction of the successive reduction steps now occurs twice: in the lead since this makes the page clearer at the outset, and locally in the text since each depiction illustrates the OCaml code next to it.

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 * @Jo-lieang Your revisions have broken the structure of the lead. I suggest you read MOS:OPEN, and the rest of that page. "The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is". Mathnerd314159 (talk) 23:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Mathnerd314159,
 * I have just edited the lead to abide with the Wikipedia guidelines, thank you for pointing at them.
 * Jo-lieang (talk) 14:45, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Please don't blank (redirect) articles without due process
As you did in Alcohol-related crime. It's fine to copy some relevant content to others articles, so your expansion of alcohol (drug) is very good, but you can't blank an existing article without a WP:MERGE discussion or WP:AFD or like. IMHO Alcohol-related crime is a stand-alone, notable concept and should remain as a separate article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ditto for Unit of alcohol . If you feel that this article should be merged to standard drink, please follow the above procedures, and obtain a consensus through discussion with other editors first. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:07, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. I might actually support a merge proposal for that second set of topics, as I concur the concepts seems very related (but I don't think you merged 100% of the content from the u of a article? A merge should be complete, or if some stuff was not merged, an explanation is needed - and in either case, we need to follow the procedure and have a merge discussion and wait for consensus to emerge or some time to pass). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:10, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Per WP:MERGEINIT, "If the need for a merge is obvious, editors can be bold and simply do it." Obviously following the usual WP:BRD you are free to revert, so I guess I'll now go through the formal process for Alcohol-related crime, unless you change your mind in the next few minutes. In the Unit of alcohol case, it was proposed several years ago with no objections, so I proposed it formally just because I wasn't really enthusiastic about the merge, but such a process is not necessary, and of course it ended up as nobody objecting during the typical one-week window.
 * In the Alcohol-related crime case, there was a discussion a few years ago that there are too many alcohol articles so this is my first step in cleaning the various articles up. The crime article is a 7kb stub, and duplicated a fair amount of content from the main alcohol (drug) article. Per WP:NOPAGE, even if an article is notable under GNG or other criteria, it doesn't necessarily merit a stand-alone page, if it can be covered better as part of a larger article. In this case, I think focusing on the social harm the laws are aiming to prevent does provide that broader context, due to the diversity of laws.
 * Both my merges were information-preserving, in the sense that I removed only duplicated content and references. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 04:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've double checked and you are right, the information I thought was missing from standard drink previously in unit... has indeed been merged, my bad. And there was an (old) merge discussion. I've self-reverted my revert of your merge there. But regarding the crime article, I stand by my view that it is needed as a separate article (a type of crime). Ps. If you reply here to me, please WP:ECHO me; otherwise I may not notice your reply and forget about this thread. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * @Jamiebuba But what about the 5-ish reviews? Aren't those enough for WP:AUTHOR? Point 3: "The person has created [...] a significant or well-known work." Mathnerd314159 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Copying licensed material requires attribution
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 * @Diannaa I certainly used the source, but I was pretty careful to rephrase the material and write it myself. There are only a WP:LIMITED number of ways to define supersets so the definition remained pretty much the same. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 13:57, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Since the source journal article is compatibly licensed, it's okay to copy the material unaltered, as long as you provide attribution, . — Diannaa (talk) 21:34, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You can see the overlap by visiting the CopyPatrol report and clicking on the iThenticate link. — Diannaa (talk) 21:44, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

really nice work on the List of skeletal muscles of the human body
You have done a lot of great work on the list of skeletal muscles, it is highly appriciated Claes Lindhardt (talk) 11:32, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just wanted a list of muscles so I could figure out if my workout was missing any exercises I should be doing... and it ended up being a weeks-long project. The magnitude of the work is probably why it wasn't improved before. :-) Mathnerd314159 (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Amazing display of willpower, now it is much much easier to acces the information one need or validate any subject specefic incuries :) The list of cells in the human body could also really use some of that will power: List of distinct cell types in the adult human body. Even though it is not as directly related to a good workout yet.
 * With the 791 muscles now listed the number 800 muscles makes a lot more sense :) (even though not all of them occur in all bodies) Job well done Claes Lindhardt (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have been thinking a lot about the fact that there seem to be no list of Smooth or cardiac muscles: Muscular system, have that thought also crossed your mind? 87.52.109.22 (talk) 16:46, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I like the way this blog post explained it (section "Doing the muscle math") - basically, there are 700-ish skeletal muscles, of which maybe 100-300 are of importance in a gym (i.e., a personal trainer only needs to know maybe 50-100 muscle names), there is one-ish cardiac muscle (the heart), and then smooth muscles are (a) involuntary, so you can't exercise them easily (b) so small and common that there are tens of thousands or millions depending on how you try to estimate them. So, basically, skeletal muscles are the ones to list. The heart is unique, and smooth muscles generally don't have names (but there are exceptions, e.g. Muscularis mucosae is the gastrointestinal smooth muscle). I've thought about making the page a "list of named muscles", so that we can list the heart and the more important smooth muscles, but haven't done it yet. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I copied your question over to Talk:List of skeletal muscles of the human body/Archive 1 since it's relevant so reply there. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 19:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * @Jamiebuba As I said when I moved it, it does have enough sources. There are 4 reviews of the book "Compiler Design in C", and per WP:AUTHOR that is enough to establish notability. I have moved it back. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 14:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Mathnerd314159,
 * While you are an experienced editor, an article on this subject was recently deleted through an AFD (Articles for deletion/Allen Holub) and the standard procedure for recreating articles on subjects that were deleted through AFDs is to go through AFC. So, it wasn't an "crazy" move to move your article to Draft space, it's standard operating practice. The article is much less likely to be tagged for another round of deletion, either CSD G4 or AFD, if it had received approval from an AFC reviewer. Good luck with it. Liz Read! Talk! 01:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm done working on it. I looked and looked but there are no more reliable sources on him. So either it survives AfD or it doesn't. I don't believe WP:G4 is applicable as I have looked at the old version and it is substantially different. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 18:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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Promille
I'm writing this here as I think it is too peripheral to the main discussion, though it might inform a section on the word promille itself. Anyway, does this make any sense to you? (It is one of the papers that Google Scholar suggested.) "ROC analysis revealed that all six biopsies could be distinguished from protocol biopsies by comparing the 999th promille of largest nuclei" It looks like an extension of the percentile concept but it should say permillile (as used here) but it seems to me to be a really messed up import from another language. Thoughts? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, there is a published version where they changed it to "99.9th percentile". The source you give is a thesis, which in my experience generally doesn't get much review - WP:SCHOLARSHIP mentions it is generally considered a primary source. It is certainly an interesting usage but I don't think it is useful for Wikipedia - it is just one data point so probably a "see also" link for percentile is sufficient. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As I suspected. (and no, I wouldn't ever cite it. Examples of use are not citations for the status of a usage.) My substantive point is that many of the sources listed at the Google Scholar link you suggested are either in German or (mis)translated from German. This was an extreme example. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 13:20, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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