User talk:MathuCutler

Formatting
The English Wikipedia has its own manual of style regarding issues like italicizing and capitals. See Manual of Style for where italics are used in scientific names.

Your edits to Giant squid also destroyed the taxobox. Please never leave a taxobox in the state you did. Peter coxhead (talk) 19:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

No thanks :) I will be italicising things with proper grammar. You are scientifically supposed italicise family. Irrelevant what Wikipedia's "style of regarding issues" is. Science is science. Have a good one. MathuCutler (talk) 19:50, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, i didn't realise i wrecked the taxobox, did not realise until you mentioned it. MathuCutler (talk) 19:55, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I did not see anything that said not to italicise family names in the link you sent. MathuCutler (talk) 20:05, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If you bothered to read the link at Manual of Style, you would know it states that only the family names of viruses are to be italicized, and not the family names of other organisms.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Were you "bothered" to read my link? This is just something that Wikipedia has made up. I will not italicise family names, only for Wikipedia's manual rules. Any other time and scientifically family is supposed to be italicise. Anyway, I have moved on. MathuCutler (talk) 17:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The link you provided is from the CDC, which is not an authority on taxonomy, and only talks about italicizing viral family names. Names of non-virus families are not to be italicized as per  Manual of Style.  If you disagree with this, go make a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style and argue there before you go inserting your own personal patterns of italicizations into articles, please.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

by* MathuCutler (talk) 16:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Gorillinae
Any extinct Gorillinae members would be appreciated. Also any extinct members belonging to the Gorilla genus.MathuCutler (talk) 21:17, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Giant squid. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. ... richi (hello) 16:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Please do not use styles that are unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in Sivapithecus. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. ... richi (hello) 16:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

No problem :) I was only trying to edit it to proper grammar. Family should be italicised. MathuCutler (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, as you did at Giant squid, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. ... richi (hello) 16:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for warning :) MathuCutler (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Please assume that I am here to improve Wikipedia. But I guess no one ever thinks of that. MathuCutler (talk) 16:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I am new, and I am not trying to harm Wikipedia. How do you block someone. MathuCutler (talk) 17:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


 * If you deliberately continue to edit against the Manual of Style (MoS), such as italicizing non-virus scientific names above the rank of genus, or capitalizing the English names of organisms, then an admin may block you, preventing you from editing. (As it happens, where the style is allowed, I always capitalize the English names of organisms. But when editing here, we must all follow the MoS.) Peter coxhead (talk) 19:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


 * If you want to have someone blocked, you either make a detailed request at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or at Administrator intervention against vandalism. Please take consideration over what you say if you need to make such a report, as administrators ignore frivolous or spurious requests, and bring about consequences for requests that are determined to have ulterior motives.--Mr Fink (talk) 19:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Alright thanks. I've made it clear that I will not be italicising anything that goes against the Manual of Style. Thank you for pointing out Wikipedia's MoS. I was previously unaware, and uninformed of such a thing. I was under the impression of how italicising family names was proper grammar (Which it is, but I have been made aware that it is not in Wikipedia's case) All scientific published papers written by palaeontologists always italicise family names, when I looked it up it said it was proper, and this is the reason i thought I'd edit that. Thank you for your understanding. MathuCutler (talk) 20:37, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I would say don't worry too much about the details of the Manual of Style at first; more experienced editors will eventually correct you. Content is what matters. This means: don't make purely stylistic edits unless you are certain that the style you are changing to is as per the MoS (italics and capitals are particularly tricky, since the MoS does not follow practice in other style guides, as you've found), and don't edit-war with editors who revert any style changes you make. So please do add content to articles. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:54, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: Yes, I have found that it's difficult to know when to use capitals. For example: with the Giant squid page, should it be "Giant Squid", "giant squid", or "Giant squid"?. It is difficult. I figured the first time you mention it, and also the title should be "Giant Squid", but not certain. So I won't edit anything that have to do with capitals. I personally prefer to go buy the genus name: Architeuthis. I rarely use nicknames. That's why I had to keep going in and change my edit to Giant squid, because I kept putting Architeuthis down, or Architeuthis dux (depending if it was referring to genus, or species). But yes I will be editing things I am certain of such as pirated sizes of the animal, and missing genera to a list etc. Again I thank you for your understanding. MathuCutler (talk) 16:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

by* MathuCutler (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

I also thought it was a bit inappropriate for a user to capitalise all of he/her words. Over italicisation, like come on. I think that user was taking it a bit too seriously, and personally. Not sure if it's allowed to mention user name. MathuCutler (talk) 16:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Updated* not "pirated" MathuCutler (talk) 23:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


 * See MOS:COMMONNAMES, which is clear that in this Wikipedia, English names of organisms aren't capitalized, so except at the start of a sentence, it should always be "giant squid". (Personally, I have never agreed with this, because it does not distinguish "a giant squid" meaning simply that a particular squid was very large, and the species called "giant squid", but it's the rule here, so, as noted above, we all have to follow it.) Peter coxhead (talk) 07:02, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks! Personally don't agree either! But of course I will follow it. MathuCutler (talk) 15:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Giant squid, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. NZFC (talk) (cont)  19:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Pierolapithecus, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. You can't just add what you know, everything needs to be sourced NZFC  (talk) (cont)  19:57, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I got my information from a source, how do I add my references? MathuCutler (talk) 04:44, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

K, guess I can't change anything ever, always a problem. MathuCutler (talk) 04:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * To add references, use the "Cite" dropdown at the top of the editing window and then select the type of source you used. Fill out as many fields as possible and then insert the citation. For more information, see WP:REFB. AviationFreak 💬 04:52, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! MathuCutler (talk) 05:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)