User talk:Matsurika/Tightlacing rewrite

''Tightlacing has its roots in the nineteenth century, when improvements in technology allowed the mass manufacture of corsets that were stronger than before. The Victorian and Edwardian ideal of female beauty emphasised a small waist, and it was widely accepted that corsets be used to reduce the size of the natural waist.''

this image is from 1779, not from nineteenth century.
 * This image is a fiction, it is drawing after a pair of stays, which was draw together, but was created for open lace in use.Håbet 10:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

the Edwardian ideal is from the following century.

Before the mass manufacture of corset all women and many men was tailors. But the fabric was expensively.


 * I don't really care to argue with you. Out of respect, I won't delete your entry, but I don't think it adds anything to the article.  Perhaps if you gave more definitive proof on the "dangers" of tightlacing (and used sources other than your website), and presented it in a manner that sounds intelligent and comprehensible, others would be more willing to accept your viewpoint.  Another thing&mdash;regardless of how you feel about tightlacing, Wikipedia is not a forum for your grievances.  You can feel a certain way about a topic and others can feel another, but the point of NPOV is that all sides are discussed, not just yours (or another's, for that matter).  --Matsurika 18:36, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

I think that breaking the article down like this is a very good idea, I'm all for adopting this. As another improvement to the article, I think I could write a section 'Effects of tightlacing', which would deal with things like ribcage compression, thoracic breathing, and the like - this would eventually (I hope!) deal with the potential dangers in a NPOV manner.

- Katherine Shaw 09:14, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)


 * Katherine, I think that's a great idea. (And I'm glad you like my rewrite.)  I would certainly appreciate it, because just I don't know enough to definitively write articles like that. --Matsurika 18:36, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * The logic and experience by a tight belt after big meal, say as tight corset is dangerous and painful. But the body is built for strong change by the pregnancy, how most of the entrails is put up in the chest. A correct corset is concave in the front under the chest or it have a sheet or pad under the chest.

Image:DiaphragmReducersStyle9559.jpg pad Image:USpatent425520_1890.gif sheet Image:XRaySpencerCorset.jpg X-Ray Image:Planche_XII_Corset_Leoty_%281867%29cut.png Note: the straight front, by soft sides.--Håbet 10:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)