User talk:MattCats10

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Submitted text cannot be copied from websites
Your addition has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. —C.Fred (talk) 18:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The text has been removed again for infringement. Please rewrite it in your own words or explain, here or at Talk:Archery Trade Association, how you intend to secure licensing for the text and why that text is the best next step in the article. Remember that, even if licensing is gained, other editors are free to edit that text as they see fit.


 * Do not re-add the text until licensing has been demonstrated. Further re-addition, especially without discussion, can lead to your account being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 18:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

And about the logo
You claim File:Atalogo130x120.jpg as your own work, yet you indicate the source is the ATA website. Can you demonstrate that you 1) created the logo for the ATA and 2) the terms of your work for the ATA allow you to make the logo free for use by any other person worldwide, including commercial use of the logo? —C.Fred (talk) 18:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Editing with a conflict of interest
A couple of things are in play here:


 * 1) Since you're editing on behalf of ATA, you have a conflict of interest with the subject. In situations like these, you must stick very close to what is in reliable sources, and preferably secondary sources. Expect to have your edits scrutinized to make sure they maintain neutral point of view.
 * 2) Even though you're editing on behalf of ATA, they're still the rights-holders of the text. If they want to ireevocably release the text under CC-BY-SA 3.0, with all the consequences for future use that entails, they can put a note on their webpage that they release the text under CC-BY-SA 3.0 terms. Remind them that the release means will not receive anything but attribution for others' use of the text, including commercial use of the text by others. Text added to Wikipedia must be free. More detailed information is available at Donating copyrighted materials.
 * 3) Remind them also that the text can—and will—be edited mercilessly by other editors. They do not own the article and cannot unilaterally limit what goes onto or off of the page. Further, licensing the text for use on Wikipedia includes granting the right to edit it. The guideline of verifiability is most important.
 * 4) It probably makes more sense for the logo to be uploaded to Wikipedia in low resolution as WP:Non-free content. The logo can be used for identification purposes in the article about the association but nowhere else. Again, this kind of limited usage is for certain classes of images, such as corporate logos, where a free version isn't available, but the article is lacking without it. Speaking of the logo, see also the discussion I started at Talk:Archery Trade Association about this logo and the old one on the article.

Remember that, above all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, intended to give neutral presentation of subjects. It is not meant to be a promotional service for the subjects, and there are many editors who strongly oppose using text copied from subjects' websites, even if they release the text under a free license. Accordingly, you may find it easier to attempt to refine the text rather than replace it wholesale. —C.Fred (talk) 21:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)