User talk:MattWade/History of Troy

Here (page 232-234) is the actual law that created the town of Troy, though it also incorporated several other towns so most of it is about other towns created in the same law. this (page 155 is the Troy part) passed in 1798 is one of the incorporation laws for the village of Troy (and at the same time the village of Lansingburgh as well); but this earlier 1794 incorporation also sets up a village of Troy though I dont think in the same sense as the later one does. From the wording of the first (later chronologically) law I think that would be the one to base on when Troy became a legal village; you'd have to decide after reading the language (due to the language Im not completely sure the legislators of the 1798 law even knew if Troy was legally a village or not based on the 1794 law). Hope this is all still useful and you understand it better than I.Camelbinky (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I hate how older English used f's as s's sometimes. How on earth did they know to use one or the other considering the typed s is also there? Thanks for the sources; they will be very useful.  upstate NYer  07:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * This isnt a great source, just some professor's timeline, but hoping it might have a nugget or two that helps you. The two images look like they'd be old enough to not have any copyright issues. Cant identify the top one, but the second one is centered on the Congress Street Bridge; with Watervliet at the bottom and the Erie Canal at the bottom right; and with downtown Troy at the top. Here's another timeline that might have some things to look into as well.Camelbinky (talk) 02:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

A great reference this time-
This book should be very helpful I hope. Pretty good excerpts from it can be found at Ray's Place if you need to find the most relevant sections to Troy quickly, such as this on the history of Troy during its period as a village].Camelbinky (talk) 04:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a good source, but I've found that for much of the history, he just paraphrases Sylvester, as if he's basing much of the history of off Sylvester's work. However, I was looking at a copy of that at the Troy Library when I was doing some research for Brunswick. Will always keep that in mind; thanks.  upstate NYer  04:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hope this can be of some use, though again may just be summarizing better known works you already have at your disposal such as that of Arthur James Weise.Camelbinky (talk) 23:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You're far from the time period of the 1980s but just wanted to give you heads up on the NY Times having an article celebrating the 200th anniversary of Troy recieving its name at Ashley's Tavern and how the city was fairing. It might be interesting to add when you get up to that period, because how many other similarly sized cities (ca. 50,000 people) can claim that the NY Times takes such an interest in their anniversaries? Here is the article.Camelbinky (talk) 20:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Good source; though this article is on the back burner for now. If you find any Brunswick stuff, point it my way.  upstate NYer  20:19, 24 January 2010 (UTC)