User talk:Matt McBrien/Archive 2

WikiProject Contemporary Christian Music
I noticed your edits on articles in the WikiProject. I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contemporary Christian music to discuss whether the network meets criteria #11 of Notability (music). Feel free to bring up other notable networks. Royal broil 04:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles January Newsletter
Happy New Year! Here is the latest edition of the WikiProject GA Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

"Move from WP:CCM to new WP:Christian music"
Mate, are you doing that template migration manually? It looks like a lot of work. I'd recommend you get yourself a copy of AWB or better still ask a bot operator to do it. Ask at WP:Bot requests or ask me if you need further assistance. --kingboyk (talk) 23:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it simply a matter of replacing every WikiProject Contemporary Christian music template with {{ Christianmusic|Contemporary Christian-work-group=yes (and whatever parameters were already there)? If it is, don't do it manually I'll either do it with my bot or arrange for somebody else to do it. You'll be taking hours if you do it manually! --kingboyk (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just setting up now. --kingboyk (talk) 23:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:WikiProject_Contemporary_Christian_music. Done. --kingboyk (talk) 00:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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Overhill Cherokee and HT articles
If you get a chance, glance over the Overhill Cherokee article and make sure it looks GA ready. I'll make a few additions to the Henry Timberlake article this week.

While I doubt there is a photo of Timberlake available, if you can find a copyright-free image of the 1765 cover of his book, that'll work just as well. We could also use copyright-free images of the Holston River anywhere downstream from Sullivan County (the one on Wikipedia is upstream) and a portrait of Ostenaco (I'm pretty sure one exists), if we can find them. Bms4880 (talk) 03:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Timberlake article
This book cover has a sketch of a colonial on the cover, but I'm not sure if it's Timberlake or even contemporary. If it's a contemporary sketch of Timberlake, then it's out there somewhere in the public domain.

As for the article, I would suggest we have one section for a brief biography and another section describing the journey to the Overhill towns in-depth. The trip to London might cover a third section, or at least a subsection. Bms4880 (talk) 18:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I've expanded the article. I found another mistake in my notes-- the "dance" took place in front of Citico, not Chota, so I corrected it.  Feel free to pare down any part that looks too long or unnecessary.  The GA reviewer will likely demand that the lede be expanded.


 * We may need to add the editors' names to the Memoirs citations, since we're citing two different editions. Bms4880 (talk) 20:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Timberlake article &mdash; GA status
I diversified the sources, added a photograph of the Holston Valley, and moved the map to the top (I also expanded the lede). I think that satisfies the GA criteria. Our last day is Sunday, if you see anything that needs to be changed. Bms4880 (talk) 22:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Template issue
I fixed the Christianmusic template issue. The articles are now going to the correct categories. I made a small error in the code which I repaired this morning. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 01:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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WP:Christianmusic
Hey, I saw you were going through and changing the importance tags on all of the articles, and I have to say, I'm entirely confused. Are you changing all bands, singers, etc. to low importance? If so... why? WikiProject_Christian_music/Assessments, has a system for importance which I've been attempting to follow as I have been rating things, and bands such as dc Talk are certainly far more than a low according to that scale. -- PEPSI2786 talk 20:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was making adjustments to the importance categories. We seem to be all over the map on the importance ratings. We have GA-class and Stub-class articles marked with High importance. I jumped in with both feet and decided to rate the importance as follows (hope it makes sense):
 * Top importance = The article is about one of the core topics of Christian music (i.e. Christian music
 * High importance = The article is about significant aspects of Christian music (i.e. Contemporary Christian music, Gospel music, Southern Gospel, and other genre pages)
 * Mid importance = The article is significant in multiple areas of Christian music (i.e. various record labels, news and magazine articles, etc.)
 * Low importance = The article is about a highly specialized topic (this is where most of our article will probably be)
 * I was trying to organize the most important articles to the project so those can be the focus of our efforts. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 20:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Importance Ratings
My only concern is that your rating system is a bit too bottom heavy. Perhaps combine the top two categories into Top Importance, move Mid up to High, and add in a Mid category for extremely important aspects within one of our areas, such as famous bands, or whatever, and let the low importance stuff include the less important bands. I don't think it's right for a band like dc talk or Jars of Clay to be rated as low importance, when it's going to be getting a lot more traffic than a band like Blaster the Rocket Man, and therefore needs to be of a higher quality. -- PEPSI2786 talk 03:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I moved the discussion to the project's discussion page. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 11:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
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Toqua article
Thanks for the barnstar. I'll add info. to the HT article as I come across it, and await the GA review. Btw-- I read something that said Louis-Philippe's brother made a sketch of Toqua while on their visit to the Tellico Blockhouse in 1797. If you come across a free-use version of this sketch, let me know. Bms4880 (talk) 22:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Homeschooling
How come you are no longer interested in WikiProject Homeschooling? We actually just became an "active" WikiProject recently, and we could really use you. Let me know if you're still interested.  Diligent Terrier • talk | sign here 15:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Homeschooling
Why did you remove your name from the list of members of WikiProject Homeschooling? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 16:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Creating albums
when creating album pages, please not that "singer-songwriter" is an occupation not a genre; i just had to go through every Derek Webb album changing them all. Ironholds (talk) 01:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Please note that I disagree with you. I see singer-songwriter as a genre as well as an occupation. I'll not go change them all back, because I really don't care enough about what genre someone on Wikipedia is listed under enough to change it. If you do, that's fine. Have at. But don't complain about it to me because we disagree. -- PEPSI2786 talk 16:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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Being 'nicer'
Yes you are correct, I could have been 'nicer' and I could have gone out and found the source for him, but I believe we look at the rest situation from entirely different perspectives.

I did not simply revert- if you look on the talk page there is a discussion about why I was reverting - It is my feeling that thats why there are talk pages to discuss differences in the article.

And yes, I did link to the appropriate policy pages so that he could read and know what 'the rules' are- I am of the feeling that thats what hyperlinks are for so that you dont have to reprint everything on every page.

And I also think it is entirely appropriate that when someone says they didnt do something because they 'didnt know how' that you show them to the place where people have put effort into making a clear 'how to' guide. (and if you notice, I also offered to make sure that even if he didnt want to put it in the proper format for the article that simply putting a link on the talk page would work. )

So, I guess there are different ways of looking at the situation and different levels of 'nice' and it is nice to know there are nicer people than me out there.

Thanks for providing the source.TheRedPenOfDoom (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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