User talk:Matthew Yeager/Achieve

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Joke
Two bulls, an old one and a young one are standing on a hill and down below in the pasture are several cows. The young bull says to the old bull, "Hey, I got a great idea. Let's run down the hill and f**k one of those cows!" And the old bull says, "I got a better idea, let's walk down the hill and f**k them all." -- killing sparrows  (chirp!) 07:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Helpful
By the way- removing the tags from those who have accepted adopters and those who are indefblocked is very helpful, thank you. WjBscribe 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

NPR
What were you doing on NPR? The page looks awesome. It's pretty obvious that wikipedia is taking over your life, but I guess it could be worse. What does the bot do? Do you realize that 100 of your edits are on your user/talk page?Bryan Duggan 23:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Nice name
Small world. Matt Yeager ♫ ( Talk? ) 21:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Not a ton. You're new to Wikipedia, aren't you? It looked really strange in my history seeing "Matthew Yeager" (which is of course my given name)... strange, strange stuff. Matt Yeager ♫ ( Talk? ) 21:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Bible
Looks like you got the blanking and I warned the blanker, nice teamwork. :). Hi, keep up the good work. Bass fishing physicist 23:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * seriously, we have been taking care of business ! i've seen you acouple times now, reverting with me against someone or posting warning on someone i was just going to :P   good stuff ! Matthew Yeager 23:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikihermitalert
I wish you could, but right now the article is listed for deletion here and WP:Canvas prohibits me from talking about it. Also, views such as this, this, and this prohibit the system we have set up, even when this is allowed, and this is allowed. Right now we are moving wikihermitalert to the WP:DEFCON system, but otherwise I would have been happy to added you to the management system. Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť (Talk) 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Beth Ann McBride
Thank you for your help on this article. The person doing the damage is likely a former co-worker of the article's subject, taking out his personal frustration or something. I am not really conversant on how to fix this permanently. Anyone who can help me out by pointing me to the right place would be much appreciated. Maybe we can get the page semi-protected or something for now? MPWard 03:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you again, Matthew! About "fixing up the page", it's really very basic, and there's not a lot of information to add.  And since the subject is currently no longer on the air, I'm hesitant to do so.  There is various information related to her stint on that nationally syndicated show, but much of it is already covered in the article about that program.  I'm just trying to get the childish idiots to go away right now (another is back today, I've rv'ed the damage).  MPWard 17:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for reverting vandalism to my user and talk pages. :-) Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  11:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip on Special:Prefixindex, there's probably lots of these Special pages that I'll be finding out about  Thomas [User:Dzubint (talk)] 15:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Pine Ridge HS
after removing the vandalism it looked like most other HS articles, and they all get contested at AfD so a speedy might not be applicable; I will send to AfD. DGG 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Why???
Excuse me, but I don't get why you copied my entire user page onto your subpage Matthew Yeager/Testing2. Please, do NOT copy all of that information without my consent. If you want to know how I made anything on that page, please come talk to me, but please do not copy it. Thank you -- K e ybladeSephi  (Talk)(Contributions) 17:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't need permission. Read the far bottom of this page. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť Talk to me or learn something new! 13:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Mikieminnow
Thanks for reverting the edit on my userpage.Mikieminnow 17:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem buddy ! Matthew Yeager 07:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeager_Welcome_Bot Comments Here Please


Your bot needs to SUBST the welcome messages you're adding; it's too easy for a vandal to edit your welcome page to something like "stuff beans up your nose", etc., and offend all the new users you're trying to greet. Neil916 (Talk) 00:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Your bot is pretty cool, except it just replaced a vandalism warning I gave someone. I'm not opposed to welcoming vandals, but I don't think the bot should replace other talk page messages. Natalie 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks for fixing it! Natalie 01:35, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Yeager Welcome Bot
I was just wondering if you had any form of approval for this account? With bot in the name, it sugests a regulated bot account, however, welcome bots have been widely dismissed by the wikipedia community.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  00:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I have blocked your bot account and requested comments on WP:AN/I, please feel free to comment there. Regards.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  01:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I made an announcement at the bot noticeboard; you may want to watch that page for comments. I am willing to unblock the bot, to relieve any tension about it being blocked. But, in light of the objections raised by several editors, I think it would be a show of good faith if you don't start the welcoming again until tomorrow (27 April). A delay will give others a chance to comment. Does that seem reasonable? CMummert · talk 03:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have replied back to admin board. Matthew Yeager 03:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I unblocked the bot account. Thanks for being patient with the discussion; the admin who blocked to bot did so while tying to follow the bot policy, but the policy isn't crystal clear and your bot account is an exceptional case. A few people have started to comment at WP:BOWN; this is the place I would look for people who are most familiar with the bot policies. CMummert · talk 04:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Alright, sounds good. Enam Esru 20:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot AN/I


Block review requested - User:Yeager Welcome Bot
I have just blocked this bot for 2 reasons;
 * t has not been approved.
 * Welcoming bots are impersonal to new users and have been shot down everytime they have been proposed.

Pleaase could somebody review this block and unblock if required?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  01:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As an unauthorized bot, a block is definitely justified. WP:BOT does state that human assisted bots "don't necessarily need bot approval," but also states that a consensus should be made before making a large series of edits. Also note the speed at which the account is editing; appears unassisted. I'll leave whether the bot is necessary up to the bot proposal guys. -  auburn pilot  talk  01:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Assisted bots don't need bot approval, as I personally post every message the bot composes.
 * 2) At this point, the welcome committee is not staffed to welcome any reasonable percentage of new users. I feel that any welcome (be it by a bot) is better then no welcome. I direct them to my user page if they need help, as well as giving them several links for help. This has been a success as i have already had users ask questions to me because they were not already welcomed and they didnt know where to go \ what to do. I've been able to successfully give advice to these user, who would have normally been lost.
 * 3) I feel this message is personal, even although its not unique, it gives the user someone they can contact and count on for help.
 * 4) In conclusion, I ask for my 'bot' (whom really just saves me time in composing the message) to be unblocked so that i may welcome new users and give them guidance and support that they otherwise would not receive (besides a small percentage).


 * Thank you for your time and I respectfully welcome any decision. My intentions were nothing but for the best. Thank you, Matthew Yeager 01:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * 5) Although the speed of edits is high, every post is composed, then i review it. If i manually approve it, its added to the jobs to be completed. I can choose when to run the bots "edit" feature. For example, I can choose to have the bot compose 20 messages, then i would go through and ensure each message is correct, then i can tell the bot to edit and then it posts the messages. This can be seen as the edits are made quickly, but then there is substantial down time in between runs, as i am checking the messages. Matthew Yeager 01:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

If the edits are approved manually, then the bot doesn't need approval. But the high edit rate is discouraged (the AWB folks also have to keep their edit speed down); a delay between edits should be added. I recommend lifting the block now that the operator is here, provided he agrees to lower the edit rate. CMummert · talk 02:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Lowered edit rate agreed. down to say 5 - 6 edits a minute (pretty sure thats the guildline) unless you will allow me to do more, either way is cool with me. thank you for proposing an unblock. please let me know if/when it will/has taken place. Matthew Yeager 02:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I've blocked several blatant vandals recently only to find a message from this bot already on their talk page welcoming them (eg User talk:Ockasekrockaway). There was a user the other day welcoming blatant Mr Oompapa impersonator socks, and thanking them for their contributions. Sometimes, auto-welcomes are just silly. It seems the height of impersonability. -- zzuuzz(talk) 02:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * 5-6 per minute is acceptable for AWB and so it should be fine. If nobody else (including Ryan Postlethwaite) comments in 15 minutes or so, since Ryan asked above for someone else to unblock if required, I'll do it. I'm going to reread the bot guidelines in the meantime. Either way someone will let you know. CMummert · talk 02:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Aside from the bot issue, it's still semi-automatic welcome messages, and something the community is not warm to. -- Ned Scott 02:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The bot has been fixed to never over write previous messages. it should have never been doing that to start.
 * although the community is not 'warm' to the issue, as explained above, this seems to be the best way to help these new users who dont know what is going on. currently, without the bot, I watch 50 new users at a time go by without a welcoming, direction, or a person to go to for help.Matthew Yeager 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I made an announcement at the bot noticeboard to draw attention here.
 * I am willing to unblock the bot, to relieve any tension about it being blocked. But, in light of the objections raised here, I think it would be a show of good faith if you don't start the welcoming again until tomorrow (27 April). A delay will give others a chance to comment. Does that seem reasonable? CMummert · talk 03:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the block is justified. The Community has for good reason been long opposed to welcome Bots. This account is in rather a catch 22 situation. If it is a bot- its unapproved and should be blocked. If its not a Blot its name is against username policy and it should be blocked. In my opinion, if someone wishes to welcome users they should do it personally. Often users who are welcomed ask questions about Wikipedia to the account that welcomed them which a Bot cannot answer. Looking through the Yeager Welcome Bot's edits, it appears that users are welcomed indiscriminately. Accounts that have never edited have been welcomed, which is a waste of time and creates pointless pages. It also appears that a couple of usernames that are aginst policy were welcomed. Put simply, I believe that this "Bot" (while the creation of it was well-intentioned) is more detrimental to the project than beneficial. WjBscribe 03:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Unblocking the bot would be appreciated. I will withhold any actions from the bot until a decision is met. If its decided that the bot shall not be needed, then i shall wish to retire it as appose to having it blocked. This way it may be used to greet users the 'old fashion way'. Does this seem acceptable ? Matthew Yeager 03:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * WJBscribe - I think that the username is acceptable (the bot policy is somewhat complicated). The section on assisted bots says that they don't necessarily need approval and that a separate username is recommended. Since the user has agreed to discuss the issue, my personal opinion is that the bot account can be unblocked as a measure of good faith. I won't go over your objection, however.  CMummert · talk 03:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This one area where username policy is fairly clear: "Names that... Imply an automated account, such as names containing "robot", "bot", or a variation thereof." In my opinion using scripts to welcome users is fine so long as:
 * It is done by an account that doesn't claim to be a Bot- why have impersonal welcomes anyway?
 * Only users who have actually made edits are welcomed.
 * I don't understand why Matthew Yeager doesn't just welcome users with his own account- which would seem much friendlier. That being said I have no objection to a courtesy unblocking while discussions continue if you really think that would help... WjBscribe 04:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. I agree it would be more personal to use his actual username. I'm going to unblock, as a courtesy, since the M. Yeager has agreed not to run the bot setup until discussion proceeds. Even though the bot being blocked shouldn't affect much, I think if I were him I would breathe easier if my bot account wasn't blocked (and I have one). CMummert · talk 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * thanks to both of you for the agreed unblock. the only reason i didnt use my own account is after ready the BOTS section which said that if you were planning on making edit a large number of edit for a specific reason then that would be allowed. so i figured that i would have a normal account specialized in editing and reverting vandalism and then a separate account for welcoming users and answering beginners questions, so that the normal account didnt get flooded with those questions. that reasoning + using scrips to compose the message sent to the user, i figured that justified "bot" being placed in the name, as the naming convention for human assisted bots does not mention not having 'bot' in the name, nor does it recommend a different word that should be used. so from that, i picked a separate account and to use the word bot in it.
 * I would be willing to apply for a name change and then use that separate account as originally intended, yet without the high rate of impersonalized welcome messages. a name without bot, but an account separate from my main account. example: Matthew.B.Yeager. sound reasonable ? Matthew Yeager 04:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me- I think a more personal username to welcome people with would be a lot friendlier. Please do check whether the accounts you welcome have actually edited. Unfortunately most new accounts never edit Wikipedia- there doesn't seem much to be gained from adding hundreds of pages a day to Wikipedia for such accounts. WjBscribe 04:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * awesome, it appears we have reached a solution that we agree on. I will be checking to ensure accounts have edited. thank you all for your time and i'm glad i was able to work with patient and reasonable administration. Matthew Yeager 04:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
I haven't been able to use wikipedia for a while, but if youre still offering adoption, I would be glad to accept it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Topspinslams (talk • contribs) 03:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

TTN, again
Since this is my first time doing this, I was wondering if I could get help from you, my favorite adopter. ☺ Could you please chime in at Suspected sock puppets/TTN & Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (2nd nomination) and give your thoughts? Thanks! Taric25 (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I will most definitely review the situations (sock and afd) and comment accordingly. this has gotten wayyyy out of hand :(  Matthew  Yeager  21:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Taric25 (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears this has become even more serious. See Deletion review/Log/2007 December 7. Taric25 (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please also see Wikiquette alerts and my talk page. I really need your help. Taric25 (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Matthew, It would be helpful if you perhaps warned your ward here that making outlandish sockpuppet accusations is a form of vandalism and can trigger an RfC, RfA or other sanction. You may also try to explain to him that it is vandalism to revert a user's talk page, let alone approach 3RR in doing so. I am not convinced that Taric is acting in bad faith: just apparently terribly ignorant of good procedures. His recent behaviour is highly unproductive and he needs some proper guidance here. Eusebeus (talk) 19:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You were reported to WP:AIV
For apparently vandalising user talkpages! I have removed the report, placed by an ip you had yourself just warned, as it appeared to be made in bad faith. Just a heads up that some of those who you are interacting with appear familiar with procedures and are willing to game the system. Cheers. LessHeard vanU (talk) 08:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Another user (User talk:4.157.11.148) didn't appreciate it either but I do have to say that you really shouldn't call edits like this vandalism. While the earlier users edits were obvious vandalism, unless there is some pattern I'm not seeing, I see as a content dispute.  I'd remove it with a request for a source.  If he kept it up then I'd suggest the warnings. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, don't worry about it. All the tools are great for fighting vandalism but a little more annoying for writing the exact right summary every time.  Usually I wouldn't care but it seems the anon user got quite annoyed and I have to be fair.  -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey Matthew
This is 11tberkey. Due to some recent errors in my home computer, I have had to change my User Name. 11tberkey is still open for comments, but this is more of a chat site for me. Thanks.

--Tim Berkey (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

HI!


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * Hey could use your help in your ANI discussion on Travel Wiki. Tiptoety  talk 20:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here. --User: (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

New Semester, New Appeal
This semester I am teaching academic writing to a group of teachers at my school. This course starts on Monday Jan 28. I would like to know if you are still interesting in "mentoring". You can see the syllabus at School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/SyllabusIf so, please leave a message on my talk page and update the mentor's page School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Mentors, if. If not, please remove your name and information from that page. Thanks! Thelmadatter (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation
--Zeitgespenst (talk) 00:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Matthew,

I cant remember if I ever thanked you for all the help you gave me. Still, I guess I cant thank you enough. Heres a small memento of my appreciation. Hope you'll like it. Cheers & have a great day. T/@ Sniperz11  editssign 01:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No sweat... you really deserve it. btw, I'm thinking of helping out newbies by becoming an adopter... what do you think? Is it a time-consuming thing? I thought of this because I'm already doing some of the stuff, like Welcoming new users and trying to help them out if they ask any queries. My weakness of course is syntax - I'm bad at it. What do you think? Cheers. T/@ Sniperz11  editssign 04:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Chess mutation diagram
A tag has been placed on Template:Chess mutation diagram requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (&lt;noinclude>&#123;{transclusionless}}&lt;/noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:05, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Matthew!
Just coming by to say hi and to let you know I changed my username. Hope everything's fine.

Your adoptee,  E.M.   talk  ●  contribs   06:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Matthew. I've been up to patrolling the Super Smash Bros. Brawl article, but I haven't had the chance to edit it since it is already really well patrolled. And yes, I'm really excited for the warm weather. We are at 32° celsius, and the beaches are beautiful, even though it could be hotter, ya know. Glad to hear everything's alright there. Keep enjoying your vacations, you truly deserve them!  E.M.   talk  ●  contribs   06:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)