User talk:Matthewedwards/Archives/2008/08

List of Slipknot band members
I have made some changes to the article from your comments and left you some comments, I would appreciate your response.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  10:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * OK dude I have addressed your final concern.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  07:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just a quick reminder, it's been a few days and I believe all your comments about List of Slipknot band members have been adressed. If there is anything else please let us know. Thank you!  Black  ngold29   03:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

GA newsletter
Sorry. There was an issue with the automated script I was using for posting it to everyone's talk page, so it never went out. I did post it to the talk pages at WT:GAN, WT:GA, and WT:WGA, however. The july newsletter is below. The august newsletter should be ready by the end of this week (hopefully, we'll have it delivered directly to talk pages again). Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Your sig
I am just letting you know that "contribs" and "email" links in your signature do not work.-- Crzycheetah 02:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think it's fixed now. Did you need to email me? Matthew Edwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. I just wanted to check your recent contribs and when it didn't work as expected, I started checking the other links in your sig.-- Crzycheetah 18:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for YellowTimes.org
An editor has asked for a deletion review of YellowTimes.org. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Hello, my name is Brandon, and I am new to posting to Wikipedia.

I wanted to make a page regarding YellowTimes.org because it was an important alternative website with a fair amount of readers. I thought it was spooky that there was almost no reference to it on the internet, and none in Wikipedia.

In the middle of creating the page, it was deleted.

I was then searching for 15 minutes on how to contact someone, and while the rules are familiar and liquid to you, for someone like me it is hard to understand the hoops I needed to jump through just to petition its deletion.

It's not an advertisement. Or a blog. It was a real website, one of the few that gave objective, intelligent viewpoints to topics relevant to the US and the world. I was in the middle of providing sources, of archived ariticles and a PDF of a screenshot of the site, when it was taken down.

My email is Benefit1970@gmail.com

Thank you very much, and lets get this thing up so there can be record of its existance

-Brandon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benefit1970 (talk • contribs) 10:50, August 6, 2008


 * Hi Brandon. I have been unable to find the deletion review, or any history of it. I deleted the article about YellowTimes.org because it failed to establish Notability, which is required for inclusion on Wikipedia. If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable. Please also see our Business FAQ and also our our guide to writing Wikipedia articles. You will absolutely need 3rd party independent reliable published sources, print or online (but not blogs or press releases) to show that the firm is notable in its industry market share and size are relevant factors.  If it is notable, there should be such sources  You will also have to write it like an encyclopedia article according to our WP:Manual of Style, not an pure advertisement. If you wish, I will provide a copy of the article in your userspace so you can work on it at your own pace, without it being deleted. Matthew Edwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Peer review
You said you were great at Peer reviewing lists? Would you mind dropping a peer review note here and/or here? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks! --haha169 (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I don't think I ever said I was "great"! But I will take a look. Regards, Matthew Edwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment?
Hey man, I was wondering if you could do me a solid: could you comment on this ongoing debate. I know it's a little long, but you can just skip ahead to the last 4 or 5 posts to figure out what's going on. I'd appreciate any input you could give. Drewcifer (talk) 04:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

My FLC
Thank you for the comments you've left at my FLC. I've adressed all of your concerns (with exception to the reflabel error--my guess is that it has to do with your browser(?)). Could you please re-assess the list? Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 22:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The O.C. (season 2)
Hi I was wondering if you could do me a favour and lend a fresh pair of eyes to the said articles peer review with a view to getting it to FL. Thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk)  06:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

DA tabs
Hi Matthew—I've just returned after a week away, so I've also noticed the additional tabs. You need to scroll over to the right to find "all dates", which is the original tab LM put there for the removal of date-autoformatting. I'm ignorant about ISO dates, who want 'em, who doesn't, their role in those problematic citation templates. So I don't touch them. Have you seen the debates and Greg L's proposal (in yellow) at MOSNUM talk? Tony  (talk)  05:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Matthew Edwards
Is there a reason your signature links through that redirect? You can pipe User:Matthewedwards to read Matthew Edwards.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 09:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Denver Broncos seasons
Do you have any feedback to give on this list. BUC (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

FLC backlog
Hi Matthew, you may have noticed our FLC backlog getting a little longer... Any chance you could revisit those on which you've commented and offer support (or further comments etc)? Much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * NP. I'll take a look now. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers
-- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 09:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Need for Speed titles
I responded to your opinion.-- S R X  16:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

The Kills discography FLC
Hi Matthew, you said all your concerns were addressed in this FLC - are sure about the video directors not needing to be individually sourced (or have I missed something)? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Who reviews the reviewers?! Da Ramblin' Guy does..! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Compact navigation script
Replied. → AA (talk) — 20:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Lostprophets discography
Fixed all the problems. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * All those references are reliable, Zobbel shows all the UK Chart positions from 1 - 200, its even on MOS:DISCOG where its reliable. The Slayer discography uses Zobbel as a source. Dud the rambling man sais these sources are reliable and his the Featured List director. Clipland has been used on all my discographies and you are the first to say its unreliable. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I replaced all those fansites on the Screaming Trees discography and sorry about my last comment, but Clipland is reliable. But i've replaced the fansite references and i'm trying to find a source for the other directors okay. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've removed all the old sources and replaced them with new once okay. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 21:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :) --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

FLC USAF Test Pilot School Comments
Hi Mathew:

Just checking to see if I correctly addressed your comments to the Featured List Candidate (FLC) on the USAF Test Pilot School. See:
 * Featured list candidates/List of USAF Test Pilot School alumni/archive1
 * Talk:List of USAF Test Pilot School alumni

Thanks for taking the time to review. Skeet Shooter (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Saw your response - thanks. I will work through all of Rambling Man's comments before resubmitting. Skeet Shooter (talk) 13:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers
Also, the FLC has been over 10 days and I need your reply on whether to Support or Oppose this FLC nomination. -- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 17:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Did You Know problem
Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article Mother and Child Reunion (Degrassi: The Next Generation), and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:DYK pass
Please see Template talk:DYK pass. I have a question there. Thanks. -Colfer2 (talk) 22:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * answered over there. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Eli
Where was this photo moved to in Commons? --Endless Dan 16:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. It took me some time to figure which image you were talking about. User:Melesse deleted this image in June as CSD I8. You are right though, I initially couldn't find the file at Commons. Then I remembered I had deleted an image yesterday of a similar name. Looking through my logs it appears I deleted Image:!Eli22.JPG, which looks to be the same as the previously deleted Image:!Eli.jpg. That image does exist on the commons, at commons:Image:!Eli22.JPG. Hope this answers your question, if not I will look into it further, and if necessary restore the image in question until we get to the bottom of it. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, Image:!Eli22.JPG appears to be a slightly cropped version of Image:!Eli.jpg. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Takeshi Matsuda
Do you even look at the articles you tag with CSD? You don't deserve to be an admin if you think that other people's work doesn't even deserve a cursory examination before deletion. I'm going to report you to ANI. Mostlyharmless (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. I did look at it, and I felt that it did not establish notability. Please read WP:NN if you need to understand what Wikipedia deems notable, and how it does that. If you can find any WP:RSs to establish it, then it will not fail A7. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I find it funny that your user page says "Reference relentlessly." The article just mentions some things that some person has done. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The claim that Matsuda is an Olympic bronze medalist "did not establish notability"?. You exhibit a very poor understanding of CSD. CSD A7 is quite distinct from RS, NPOV and other content issues. To quote: "does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources". There was however a link to a reliable source - an English language article in a major Japanese newspaper - before you applied your second speedy. If an article is created by two different users, neither of whom appear to be sockpuppets of the other, it might also suggest that the claim of notability is worth investigating. Yes, it just mentions some things that he has done, like swim for a bronze medal in the Olympics, finishing very narrowly behind the fastest swimmer in history. Mostlyharmless (talk) 23:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I do understand CSD, though my exhibiting of it here was questionable, you are right. Feel free to whack me. I still feel it needs to properly establish notability by use of references rather than external links, but that's another story. May I point out however, that I only deleted the page once, and at that time it did qualify for CSD with the line "Takeshi Matsuda is a Japanese swimmer." Anyway, I apologise for my hasty actions. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And sorry for shouting at you too. Mostlyharmless (talk) 00:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

About the speedy deletion of Garry Schyman
I was never notified of the deletion or the requirement of a fair use rationale. -- SWJS: The All Knowing Destroy All Humans! Nerd ( Cortex Scan )  01:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies. Ugh, what a bad day I was having yesterday. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of tallest buildings in Bellevue, Washington
When you get a chance, could you go back and look at Featured list candidates/List of tallest buildings in Bellevue, Washington? I am sorry I didn't reply to your comments/concerns (I was on a semi-wikibreak), but now User:Leitmanp has. Thanks and cheers, Rai • me  01:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Mother and Child Reunion (Degrassi: The Next Generation)
Hey, just dropping by to let you know I've completed a GA review for Mother and Child Reunion. I know, sorry, it did take me a day or two but as you'll see the list is a pretty big one (not sure whether to apologise here!) so it did take a while to get all that down. :) Good luck with improving the article, and just give us a holler if you've got any problems or if you're done! — 97198   talk  07:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Backlog
Hi Matthew. The usual I'm afraid. The last five lists at FLC are desperately in need of some opinion, and one or two are in need of any comments beside my own. I'd be ever grateful...! The Rambling Man (talk) 08:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Peer review: Pilot (30 Rock)
I've just noticed that your user name is listed at WP:PRV as a volunteer peer reviewer. I was wondering if you could, please, by any chance take a look at reviewing Pilot (30 Rock) which is currently mid-way through a review. Any help is greatly appreciated. --  Jɑɱǐε  Jcɑ  13:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

FL removals
Hi. I've not been as active there as I could/should be. Getting back into the swing. --Dweller (talk) 12:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/The Principal and the Pauper
Quick query - would it be alright if you could enclose your comment thread above in this FAC with hat and hab as addressed, regarding the points you raised that were addressed to your satisfaction? This way that part of the discussion would still be there but take up less space at the FAC page. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 12:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for addressing that. Cirt (talk) 20:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Dream Theater discography
Hey, do you mind revisiting Featured list candidates/Dream Theater discography? Thanks, Burningclean  [speak]  20:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, will you please revisit Featured list candidates/Opeth discography? All your requests have been taken care of. Thanks, Burningclean  [speak]  05:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 20:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

A Question
Hi. I see that you are listed as a copyeditor on WP:PRV, and an article I worked on needs some copyediting. I understand if you don't have time. but if you do, could you please look over the article Warriors (novel series)? Thanks, Shrewpelt (talk) 12:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

1995 Pacific Grand Prix
Hi. My previous project, the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix successfully became an FA last week. Having noticed your name on the peer review volunteers list, I was wondering whether you could review the 1995 Pacific Grand Prix article, leaving comments on the peer review page. Kind regards, D.M.N. (talk) 14:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Avatar List FLC
Rau and I have a question about the Avatar list that you commented on. The transclusion looks good, and I would love for it to be implemented. However, do you have any idea how alternating colors (like the ones on the previous version), could be added? --haha169 (talk) 23:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You would have to add colours to each alternating episode on the season pages. I've never tried this and don't know if it can be done. I suspect it's to do with episode list. Anyway, to quote myself, "Wikipedia is not Skittlepedia. We shouldn't just add colours without any good reason just to make things look pretty." Yes, the FLC criteria says that lists should be visually appealing, but it doesn't say we have to use colour to do acheive that. If it did, we'd be using rain bo w t ex t t oo . Matthewedwards  ( talk  •  contribs  •  email ) 00:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

The list is fine as is, I don't see the need to go out of the way to make it look exactly the same. Unless of course, the current version doesn't comply with the MOS. But even then, there really is no need as all MOS's are guidelines... *SIGN* 02:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Help?
Hi. I was wondering if you could do a copyedit of Odwalla. I've spent the last month or so killing myself over it, and now it's in WP:GAN and peer review and heading for WP:FAC. Thanks. :) Intothewoods29 (talk) 02:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Taking over
Hi Matthew. You know my current situation - would you really be okay with taking over my "lofty position" as director of FL? I'd rather the hand-over took place sooner rather than later. I'll be here and contributing (much in the same way you do now) until late October, so it'll probably just be a case of swapping positions? Let me know and then I'll make the transition formal. Cheers, and thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to do it, but only if others agree. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, good news. I'll keep the boat afloat until you and Scorpion are back online properly, and try to get a consensus to support your position.  Cheers, much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

GA newsletter
Sorry about the delay here. There are somewhat major issues with WP:AWB right now, which I've been using in the past to post newsletters to the participants. But right now, it will only get links on a page up to 10, which doesn't help. I posted a request for Newsletterbot to distribute it, but that was five days ago and it still hasn't gone out. If you have any suggestions on how to send this out, I'm open to new ideas. In the meantime, here's the august newsletter:

Signatures
Hello, Mr Edwards. I noticed you said something about my signatures. If you can show me exactly where it says I have to sign my 's, I'll start signing them. If not, I won't. I have also put the template back onto my talk page.--Andrzejestrować Zajaczajkowski Plecaxpiwórserafinowiczaświadzenie Poświadczyxwiadectwo-Bjornovich (talk) (Special:Contributions/Andy Bjornovich) 22:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Or was about to, when I realised that you'd put one for Tagalog, and Filipino and Tagalog are the same.--Andrzejestrować Zajaczajkowski Plecaxpiwórserafinowiczaświadzenie Poświadczyxwiadectwo-Bjornovich (talk) (Special:Contributions/Andy Bjornovich) 22:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

re: The Boys from Baghdad High
Just s quick question, do the quotes in the Lede really need citing? They are all taken from webpages that are used as sources in the ==Reception== section. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really and you are totally right. I forgot, for no reason, that I was editing the lead section. I've just removed it. I'll try to review the article soon. Thanks. --  fayssal   / Wiki me up® 23:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Baghdad High.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Baghdad High.jpg. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 20:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit
Hey Matthew, would you like to copyedit The Other Woman (Lost)? Feel free to pass on the offer! Thanks, – thedemonhog   talk •  edits  22:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

FL director
First up, I hope you'll check out the talk page of FLC to see your requested consensus to take my position (nice one!), it's pretty clear you have the backing of the community. Secondly, there's a question mark over whether you should still hold the position of FLCR director too, so some chat on that would be useful. Thirdly, the backlog is up to eight again, and opinions/comments would be greatly appreciated... seems to have gone a bit quiet over there lately! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/All-NBA Team/archive1
I have addressed your concerns. Could you review it again? Thanks — Chris!  c t 19:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Good Charlotte awards/archive2
Gary King ( talk ) 01:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there
I just saw you deleted that bio on a talk page. Do you think in these situations its best to give the deletion reason as if it were on the article namespace? I just want to get my deletion reasons right because there have been times where admins have made their own mind up on what criteria to give it, which is expected as different admins have different ways of looking at it. For example in the above, it could be reasoned to delete that as a test page because it was in the wrong namespace, or as the talk page criteria G8. Is it OK if editors place 2 reasons for deletion just to make sure? Thanks  Monster Under Your Bed  (talk) 07:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. I'm not sure which biography you mean. I can only think of Talk:Eurovision Talent Contest 2009. I deleted it because I considered it to be advertisement (WP:CCSD), although other reasons I could have deleted it were as you said, CSD#G8 a talk page of a non-existant article page, G2, a test page, or CAS#A7, failure to assert the importance or significance. I used WP:Twinkle to delete, which only allows an admin to give one reason. If I had done it using the Wikipedia delete page, I could have chosen two of them, and sometimes I do that. It really depends if I'm using Twinkle or not. Sometimes it annoys me and I do it the slow way. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Kate Miller
I noticed that you had deleted the article for Kate Miller. While the version that was tagged did meet the criteria for speedy deletion, if you look at the article history the content on there was vandalism of a legitimate article. Bvlax2005 (talk) 08:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I did check it, I must have just missed it. My apologies. Let me look again and I'll restore it to the last good version. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries! I don't even know how I managed to catch it.  :)  Bvlax2005 (talk) 08:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. I think I must have checked the last 6 versions, which were all attacks, and didn't notice that the kb of the article had dropped from 1000+ to 300. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Really Random Komix
Hi. I was curious as to why the page "Really Random Komix" was deleted. It is a page describing the comic book company called Really Random Komix, and all of their characters and stories.

Psychoson 69 (talk) 08:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * replied on talk page Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

DanMan
Hi. This page qualified for speedy deletion before i even got into any stories. I made this page to tell about a superhero named DanMan. It is not Nonsense or Jibberish. Psychoson 69 (talk) 08:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * replied on talk page Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Styr Nythas
I don't understand your decision. Sorry, it may be because I'm pretty new on this. Isn't Wikipedia a collaborative encyclopedia? Where is the collaboration? You don't gave the chance. I placed the tag "stub", maybe someone has something interesting to say about that issue, I left the door open for other people to contribute and expand it. Isn't this the way of creating an article in a collaborative way? I don't understand this way of working, It doesn't make sense to me in the context of Wikipedia. You don't even gave time to expand, correct it, don't even gave indications or advise to the author... --Monturiol (talk) 08:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * replied on talk page. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks for your understanding --Monturiol (talk) 09:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I did want to toss out a quick thank you and apology. Thank you for restoring the article, I personally feel it has potential to be expanded and provide educational reference to others. I also wanted to apologize if it felt like we were ganging up on you or anything. I also know this was the second article I questioned you about tonight. I just don't want you to think I am conspiring against you or out to get you. :) Bvlax2005 (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Lincoln Theatre Guild
Per Wiki standards "to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable. " I beleive that we meet this standard, we copied the format of a couple of other theatre groups ad have the same refrences and citations that they do, yet they are allowed to be on Wikipedia. Please rethink your position on this. Thank You, Matthew Trotta VP of Communications LTG. Streetdoc270 (talk) 13:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
Hi Matthew. Thanks for all your comments regarding my List of number-one Billboard Top Latin Albums of 2000, I think I have adressed them all.

Thanks again, Jaespinoza (talk) 18:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Sheila Graber
Hi Matthew I note that on Aug.27th '08 you "Speedy Deleted" the above article on the grounds that "It didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject" Could you please be more specific about this statement. I don't know who put the article up in the first place, whoever it was did a formal description of some of the key events in my career. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/3751182.stm is a URL which refers to my being world renowned..does that help? The Wikipedia page was very useful as a link to students that contact me from all round the world,it is a loss to them and myself. The 100 animations up on YouTube, mentioned in the article do indicate that the subject of animation is important to me and it has been my lifelong aim to help those who find it important too. I would appreciate your feedback. All Good Wishes - (Professor)Sheila Graber 89.19.72.86 (talk) 23:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * replied on talk page. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

restored page- sheila graber
Hi Matthew. thank you so much for updating my page with such professionalism. The wonders of Wiki World are quite new to me. I did edit something that was wrong a while back, but was never quite sure of how to go about it! If new relevant material comes up should I, in fact, contact you? You have done a good job - with links to appropriate pages - much appreciated. Is it OK to ask who did actually put my page up in the first place ? - If not, that's fine. I use Wikipidea a lot in my work, particularly at the moment as I"m writing a book/CDROm for students "Animation a Handy Guide" for which I need a wide range of reference.The fact you do what you do on a voluntary basis is excellent - and the fact you understand the inner workings of Wikiworld has my greatest respect. Thanks for your time and energy - particularly in the small hours of the morning. All Good Wishes from the not so Sunny South East of Ireland- Sheila 78.152.226.112 (talk) 10:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Sheila. I notice you're using a different IP today instead of 89.19.72.86 which you were using yesterday. I don't know if you noticed that I replied to that talkpage yesterday, but in case you didn't catch it, here's the link. There is a registered username on Wikipedia, User:Sheilagraber; if that is you I recommend you log in and reap the benefits, but if it isn't you, you may Request an account. To find out who has contributed to an article, and who created it, simply click on the [history] tab at the top of the article. The most recent edits are at the top, and the earliest edits are at the bottom. Sometimes the page history spills onto more than one page which can be accessed from the "Latest"/"Earliest" links, though that doesn't apply for the history of Sheila Graber. The link, by the way, is here. At the bottom of the page, it shows that an unregistered user with the IP address 217.35.96.177 created the article on 9 November 2005. Using the website http://www.db.ripe.net/whois, all I know is that that person is from the UK.


 * Your comments about Wikipedia and its users are very gracious, so thankyou. However, I am actually in Los Angeles, so it's not as early in the morning as you may think. I am from England originally though, and being a child of the 80s I do remember Paddington Bear, but not the Just So Stories [[Image:Face-plain.svg|25px]].


 * With regards to editing an article about oneself, while it isn't outright disallowed, it is discouraged. You may wish to read WP:Autobiography. If there is any information on the page that is incorrect, there are a number of options you can follow:
 * Leave a message on the article's talk page detailing the problems and if available, providing a link to a source which would back that up.
 * Leave a message on Wikipedia's help desk, again, detailing the problems and a link if available. You will probably get a faster response here, and the attention of uninvolved editors.
 * Email [mailto:info-en-q@wikimedia.org info-en-q@wikimedia.org] with full details of the problems.


 * If there are legal problems with material in an article about you, please email [mailto:info-en-q@wikimedia.org info-en-q@wikimedia.org] promptly with full details.


 * Anything else you need assistance with, feel free to let me know! Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Discographies/Collaboration
As a member of WikiProject Discographies, I thought you might be interested to participate in the collaboration. Hpfan9374 (talk) 12:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

FARC List of Indian districts
I believe you made a very subjective call when you closed the List of districts of India. The three statements are ones that I find fault with:


 * MOS:CONVERSIONS is a guideline, and doesn't have to be followed per se, however, WP:FL? does say that a FL should "comprehensively" cover the scope. Converting measurements ensures that the list is comprehensive, and provides context and understanding to users who are unfamiliar with the metric system.
 * The majority of the tables are wikitables, but the first two are not. This promotes inconsistencies within articles, as well as using colour to make things pretty, rather than to identify something specific.
 * DABs should be redirected to the correct page (WP:DAB and MOS:DAB). Why make a reader make two clicks to get to the page when one is better? We shouldn't rely on a bot (which may or may not exist) to come around to the page to make these changes, editors should be doing it.


 * 1) With the first statement: You've used non-compliance of a recommended guideline to fail a nom. Unless made mandatory, it is not a violation of FLC. You're confusing comprehensiveness which covers all aspects of a topic with something that is mentioned, but equivalents absent.
 * 2) The first two are not wikitables? What do you mean by that? And why didnt you flag this off in the nom?
 * 3) Colour to make things pretty is a subjective statement. Isn't the use of colour in infoboxes also pretty. The FLC criteria does not mention that the use of colour to make things "pretty" constitutes a fundamental violation.
 * 4) Links to dabs were fixed by User:GDibyendu. If there were any pending, it should have been flagged.

It was the nom against one editor and there were no other editors that confirmed the nominator's position. So with all due respect, I'm afraid that your reasoning above is a poor call. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  09:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. If I can quote from WP:FLRC, "'For a nomination to be demoted, consensus must be reached that it no longer meets the criteria. Consensus is built among reviewers and nominators, as determined by the delegates who act as FLR directors, Dweller and Matthewedwards. Once a list has been nominated on this page for a minimum of two weeks, it will be removed from the list of featured lists if the consensus is to remove," When I archived it, it had been nominated for three weeks, which was well past the time frame. Anyway, as you said, it was a subjective call, but that's what it means if Dweller or I determine that consensus has been built to delist.
 * Only you indicated that it should be kept. By not explicitly saying "Keep", I determined that the other people involved in the discussion agreed with the nominator, or had their own concerns that were not addressed. By the interactions with CrzyCheetah, I felt he still didn't think it stood up to current FL standards. I also assumed that Tony1 didn't because his concerns were still not addressed after 7 days. He even noted the criteria it failed against. Also, my comments are just as relevant as other peoples, even if I am a director.
 * Criteria 5 says that a Featured List "complies with the Manual of Style and its supplementary pages". If a page does not comply with the MOS, it doesn't meet the criteria. If you think this is wrong, discuss it at WT:WIAFL as I can only work within the criteria at that point in time.
 * With regard to the tables, please see Help:Table, which gives table markup. Some tables were classed as wikitables, others weren't. That means the article was inconsistent. No, I don't believe colours in infoboxes are pretty. I think they're mostly unnecessary. Criteria 6: "suitable use of ... colour" If the colour was being used to highlight something, as is done at some of the sports lists to show when someone has entered the Hall of Fame, that's okay. Using colour to jazz things up isn't suitable.
 * DABs weren't fixed when it was closed otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.
 * After 21 days it was still failing the two criterias Tony pointed out, and no one else had come along to !vote keep. I didn't have to give any more reasons because its time had ran out, but I did because I figured that any interested parties would have it watchlisted and could make more improvements based on them. Even if I didn't give those reasons, or even if those problems still were not there, Tony's and CrzyCheetah's were.
 * I believe what I did was right under the circumstances. If you feel I was wrong and that it does meet the standards of Featured Lists, by all means bring it to WP:FLC. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not disputing the FLRC or Tony's comments. I missed those at it came late in the after I stopped watching the page. I'm disputing only the three reasons you cited above.
 * As far as MoS compliance is concerned: I have listed it on Wikipedia talk:Featured list criteria.
 * With regards to colour, I successfully ran an FL (Amateur radio frequency bands in India) last month, where I used the exact same colour. Although the issue of the use of colour was raised in the nom, I did appeal against it. Dweller promoted it and in his review he did not mention anywhere that the use colour was against any featured list criteria. (Note that the colour was later changed from blue to grey when the wikitable class was applied, but the headings still retain the blue). Inconsistency among the directors? =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * User:GDibyendu mentioned that he had fixed. I'm not sure what happened after he had asserted the dabs. It should have come to the notice of editors that the dabs were not completely fixed.
 * You, in your role as FLD should have played a part in helping interpreting grey areas of the featured list criteria during the nom, so that clarifications could be raised at appropriate places. Rather, you interpreted them yourself when closing leaving no chance for editors who wish to engage in constructive debate. Your act was questionable since the dispute was between two people on an area that is widely open to interpretation. Had more editors for example, weighed in on FLRC that the colours were not appropriate, then that would be a consensus for change, and I could have taken care of it in a suitable manner. In the future please do clarify grey areas or at least allow people to seek clarifications elsewhere if you think it does not meet the FLCr so that people can act on it. I will push this again on FLC since I've done most of the groundwork at User:Nichalp/districts  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, even if I didn't have my own concerns, by the 21st day it was still failing the criteria as Tony had pointed out on the 14th day. No attempts to address those had been made. Crzy's debate also clearly showed he was uncomfortable with it staying a FL, and the original nominator had not changed his mind. Let me also point out that nominations at FLC are closed when there are still outstanding points to be addressed, often well before it has an extra 7 days to address them. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Gary King/unlinker.js
Delete the page please thanks! Gary King ( talk ) 20:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 20:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)