User talk:MatthiasGoertz

April 2022
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Temple denial. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum. Thank you. PAVLOV (talk) 06:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Temple Denial
Importing Biblical Minimalism into the Temple Denial article doesn't necessarily solve any problem. See some discussions at Talk:Temple denial... AnonMoos (talk) 22:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure I would have been as abrupt with you as some others monitoring the article "Temple denial", but the simple facts are: 1) Standard Biblical Minimalism is only rather tangentially connected to Temple denial, since Minimalism doesn't usually question Jewish populations, institutions, edifices, and sacred texts as they existed in the Hellenistic era, while Temple denial does. 2) The article "Temple denial" is not the appropriate place to debate issues connected to Biblical minimalism in any detail or at any length.  3) If you have a theory of "ultra-minimalism" personal to yourself which has not appeared in reputable scholarly journals and such, then it would be "original research" to include it on Wikipedia... AnonMoos (talk) 02:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022
Please refrain from using talk pages such as Talk:Temple denial for general discussion of the topic or other unrelated topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines; they are not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See here for more information. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 07:14, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Citing your own work
Please read WP:SELFCITE. I've reverted you simply because I can't find any citations of your book or academic reviews. Doug Weller talk 07:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you Sir, that is very kind of you. I am a philosopher and I can actually think. All information I am basing my analysis upon is in the public domain. I understand that what is actually the case does not interest most participants in this talk, evidently yourself included. But I invite you try to think, if you've never tried, especially before going in and censoring other people. The first step in thinking is to rid yourself of all prejudice, indoctrination and hypocrisy. Try it out, it's great fun. At any rate, what I wrote and you kindly deleted is now in my head, and you probably won't go to the length of chopping my head off, so it's there to stay. MatthiasGoertz (talk) 08:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not the sort of response I'd hoped for. It's seriously insulting and thus a breach of good faith as well as a personal attack. I freely admit to having no PhD (although yours isn't from a university with recognition from the Swiss University Conference) but my MSc. from LSE is as good as yours. This is an encyclopedia and our talk pages are as I said not forums. It even says that at the top of the talk page: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Temple denial article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." Please don't continue in this vein, that sort of attitude rarely ends happily. Still, it's also clear that you know quite a bit about Kleist and might become a useful editor if you follow our policies and guidelines. Start with WP:VERIFY, WP:RS and WP:NOR. WP:CIVIL is one of our core polices also.  Doug Weller  talk 09:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sir, it appears you just threw out a lengthy (and I think rather valuable) contribution of mine that took me quite some time to compile, on the grounds that I did not provide links to the literature (actually I did: Josephus, Antiq.). If your concern really was lack of sources (which I do not believe for one minute to be the case) you'd simply have pointed it out to me in a niote and I might well have obliged and added ample sources. Anyhow, you enjoy playing the policeman; I certainly enjoyed my little excursion into a fascinating arc of storytelling that spans from the Babylonian Isrealites via Josephus (try Antiq. 11, in which he systematically smears the Samaritans, even pulling Alexander the Great into his tale) to the modern "State of Israel." Everything is so transparent, it took me only a few days of research and thinking to figure out, quite clearly, I think, what's been going on. Fascinating. And your action was the icing on the cake. Thank you! MatthiasGoertz (talk) 10:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This isn't worth a serious reply. You don't like our policies and guidelines, go elsewhere. Doug Weller  talk 10:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)