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Gleneagle
Very notable - part of the 1961 fires, part of the albany highway, forestry area, early millars forestry area, rail history area (havent even got to gunzburgs timber railway history yet) unfortunately might not be on again for a week or two a very sick imac issue - as well as real life. cheers SatuSuro 03:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Mildura
Use the images as you wish. I'd upload them to Commons myself except I appear to have locked myself out of my account there. -- Longhair\talk 08:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Strike the above. A miracle occurred when I gave it one more shot :) You are now logged in to Wikimedia Commons as "Longhair"... -- Longhair\talk 08:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for transferring those images. I'll be sure to add future images directly to Commons now my access has been restored. -- Longhair\talk 09:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thanks for your support with respect to my request for adminship, which successfully closed today with a count of 47 support, 1 oppose. If you ever see me doing anything that makes you less than pleased that you supported my request, I hope to hear about it from you. See you around Wikipedia! Accounting4Taste 05:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Emmaville
Thanks for kind words. We seem to have both been editing in last few minutes, think it's all OK now. I know nothing about the place except what I find on the web - and that some of my in-laws lived there a few years in the 1890s - but will try and add a bit more about history, museum, etc some time. PamD 23:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For the help with Fowlers Bay, South Australia. Appreciated! Feel free to have a look over Nundroo and Penong which I wrote yesterday too ~ Riana ⁂ 13:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

RE:Perth, Australia
The sentence is extremely absurd; it is uncited editorial innuendo that implies there is doubt about this, which of course there can't be as "Perth" could only be the Scottish city. Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 23:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Changes to Kingaroy
Thank you for assistance

Deletion of Poultryhub.org
Hi... you deleted my fledgling article on Poultryhub.org about an hour after I worked on it. Poultryhub.org is a wiki for the poultry industry community to use so it can improve poultry-related research and education activities. I stated on the talk page that I would continue to work on it to ensure it met encyclopaedic standards, but your arbitrary decision to wipe it was swift indeed. Very kneejerk if you ask me and quite unfair. There's no other wiki with this scope dedicated to poultry or any other livestock industry for that matter and I feel that it is worthy of an entry. Most distressed by this development and wondering who's agenda we're serving here. Hopefully not some vegan with a chip on their shoulder. Belmop 04:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * OK - so you didn't delete it (sorry) but you tagged it for speedy deletion rather than taking the time to discuss it on the discussion page, so by the time I get around to addressing the need to improve the article... it's too late. This irked me somewhat and your "tag" made you the target of my frustration. I always assume good faith.. until I get shafted. The criteria state "Before nominating an article for speedy deletion, consider whether it could be improved or reduced to a stub; if so, speedy deletion is probably inappropriate. Contributors sometimes create articles over several edits, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its creation if it appears incomplete. Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criteria the page meets and consider notifying the page's creator." Deflecting editorial responsibility to some faceless admin is beneath all of us. And it wasn't a "veiled" accusation. I took a punt that you were opposed to any mention of intensive animal production unless it was bagging it. You haven't told me I was wrong, yet. Anyway... before you get all hot under the collar and we start winding each other up, I'll work on ensuring any future articles conform to the acceptable criteria, but I guess I had better go and appeal to the powers that be and beg for my article back. Happy happy joy joy. Belmop 05:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: Melbourne
Mattinbgn - I did indeed follow your advice when I added the photo in. I replaced a similar photo, that didn't look fantastic. I also added to the Photos section on the Melbourne 'talk page'. I appreciate your concern, but as you can see, I did what you requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyroslim (talk • contribs) 05:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Australian Army Recruit Training
I have replaced the merge proposal tag on this article. Please let the discussion take place before removing it again. You may also think about adding some sources before creating articles in the future. -- Mattinbgn\talk 06:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You might think about letting an article being created before attempting to merge it into a different thing. I guess creating it and letting people help is too much these days. I see that if its not perfect when it comes out then you wont even look to help. DPCU (talk) 08:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Booleroo Centre, South Australia, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 19:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanx for repairing my mistaken cutting and pasting
Thanx for your assistance, and apologies for i. cutting and pasting rather than moving (no more of that, now I know how), ii. possible breaching of Wiki naming convention by prefrancing original names over official names for geological features. I shall now repair other original => offical by using 'move' button!? Bruceanthro (talk) 06:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Intellectual Property Statement/s
Thanx again (second time in that many days) for advising, assisting, and pointing me in the right direction! I will participate on the noticeboard as suggested!

By way of clarification/explanation .. I note in the end, while the linked 'Intellectual Property Statement' briefly describes the nature of Aboriginal knowledge economies of the region/s .. it in FACT does no more than signal an intention or wish to identify the original person/s or groups from which the name, mythology, or designs sourced in the relevant article..

I'd wished only to give my own statement in the process of using materials made known to me through my dealings with Aboriginal peoples (and potential readers/Wiki users), to simply make a statement of 'good research practice' which I'd hoped might truly be no more than an slight elaboration on, wholly consistent with Wikipediia's existing general citing/ referencing requirements ..

I had nopt imagined that making a 'good practice' statement of this kind might in any way offend Wiki licencing conditions .. (I'll now have a closer look!) .. particularly as the statement, and the associated good citing/good research practice, in no way constrains nor limits free and open public access and use of the information so generated and posted in Wikpedia. .. I guess this all something to more publicly explore on the notice board (a forum I was not really aware of, and had not put in my 'watch' list ..until now!

Bruceanthro (talk) 06:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Paddle Pop lion
Well, it's been deleted and redirected to Streets ice cream now... sorry, I just removed the tag thinking that having both of them there wasn't a good idea. I thought that someone had prodded the article and forgot to take away the speedy tag, and so I did that, but obviously that wasn't the case :) Sorry about the confusion. Spebi  21:38, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Why did you do this?
What was that about? Stevage 21:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, that came across a bit snippy. Pre-coffee wikipedia and all that. Um...yeah is there any established guideline or pattern or whatever regarding the use of galleries vs Commons links? My feeling has been that Commons and Wikipedia are separate projects, and while they may overlap, it's not "redundant" for them to do so. A Wikipedia page should strive to be the best Wikipedia page it can be, and shouldn't avoid treading on Commons' toes. I also don't really think that a Commons link is really likely to be noticed by anyone, so putting photos just on the Commons page is effectively hiding them from readers. Sort of like if you replaced the illustrations in a book with a little note saying "if you want to see pictures of this thing, open this other book instead".
 * So, in general, I think illustrating Wikipedia pages with pictures from Commons is good, as long as it doesn't get out of control. I tend to go out of my way to find pictures on Commons to add to Wikipedia pages, using Magnus Manske's FIST tool. Stevage 04:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, yeah I think on the whole I'd keep it. So, I've restored it. Thanks. Stevage 03:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

twinklehate
Articles for deletion/Aboriginal Liberation Army doesn't excist yet. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I know, it hung and I am trying to fix it now. Twinkle normally works pretty well for me on AfDs (not so much on PRODs)  Sorry -- Mattinbgn\talk 23:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It never failed me on PROD's. All the more on AfD's (especialy on the day border, when the new page hasn't been created yet.) Oh well, it's fixed now. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:CRICAUSBIO
Hi there Mattinbgn. Since we know have a lot of people writing about Australian cricket biography articles [I counted five people who have written FAs or GAs on Australian cricket in this year], and since some people (like myself) tend to work offline with a book for a few hours and then upload in a large chunk (so it seems), I have created this subnoticeboard type thing, so that people can write down what major expansions they are working on, so that there won't be instances of people spending 5-10 hours writing and collecting information which is then duplicated. It has happened before at WP:GAC that two people spent an hour or so reviewing an article and then had an edit conflict and posted two reviews on the same article among other things. Of course, this shows a good sign that the Australian cricket biography scene is doing well.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And well done on Archie Jackson. has just passed it. And well done for starting on Warwick Armstrong. I had printed out a few papers on him and left it on my desk for a few months now without writing anything, so I thought the edit-conflict thing might come in handy down the track... Blnguyen   ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Tom Cooper (cricketer)
Hi: the answer is no, it was not intentional to retain this article, it was simple inattention on my part. I have corrected it. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow .. A Barnstar!
Just a quick expression of surprise and thanks for that barnstar! Wholly unexpected but much appreciated!! Have gone right off track from documenting places within the north-east Queensland cultural landscape .. to compiling material for a growing Indigenous intellectual property article .. but hope to get back to Queensland places soon!! Bruceanthro (talk) 05:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Protocols for Removing Merge Suggestion?
I'm writing to you because you invited me in welcoming me last month (thanks!), and because you are aware of the article involved!!

Edcolines has posted a suggestion to merge unfinished indigenous intellectual property article into traditional knowledge article. I have expressed view and explainedthat this would not be appropriate: here

I'm now wondering how long one should wait, and under what conditions it may be considered acceptable for me to remove the suggestion from the top of the page/s?? Bruceanthro 00:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanx for you advice .. will do as you suggest! Cheers Bruceanthro 09:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Riverina
!!! - :) Congratulations - a great addition to the encyclopaedia --Matilda talk 02:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Colbinabbin thanks for ruining my fun, what was writen was the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T-sauce man model 2 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

And another
I had you and Graham on my mental shortlist for today. Congratulations and thanks again. &mdash;Moondyne 03:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Two things
Hi. (1) I was interested in your edit on Barnes; does the book mention the coroner's report? (2) I like the Archie Jackson article, do you want help to take it to FAC? I wrote the Alan Kippax article & went to FAC and got canned for no good reason?!!?? lol...maybe you don't want that kinda help. I'm going to give it another whirl with Kippax next year. Anyways, drop us a msg if you're interested.... Phanto282 (talk) 12:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnes
Great work! Quick question - the shoulder dislocation that disappeared... was it incorrect, irrelevant or are you in the middle of moving it? --Dweller (talk) 11:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

ACOTF is 1967 in Australia
Hi. You voted for 1967 in Australia for WP:ACOTF, and it's been selected. Please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks, and have a happy and safe Christmas. --Scott Davis Talk 14:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for the vote of confidence. I hope to return to more active editing some time next year. --Scott Davis Talk 10:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Jackson
Verbatim: "When Archie Jackson, nineteen years and 152 days old, was given the nod, Arthur Mailey, the Balmain Club's only previous Test player, rushed down from his office at the Sydney Sun to Alan Kippax's sports store in Martin Place, where Jackson worked, to bring him the news. In the days following Jackson's selection, Jack Ryder sought the advice of Kippax about the youngster opening the batting. Kippax's reported reply was: 'I am sure he expects to open.'"

Source: pp 314-315 of Chris Harte, A History of Australian Cricket, Andre Deutsch 1993. ISBN 0 233 98825 4.

nb. Bradman batted at 7 in his 1st Test, and at 6 for his next two Tests, then at 5 in the last. Not necessary to put this in, it just demonstrates that a young player is sometimes "eased in" down the order, hence Ryder's uncertainty as to Jackson's place in the order. Phanto282 (talk) 10:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You seem to have covered the facts etc. I think it needs a stiff copy edit, happy to do it for you, or get someone else if you like. IMO it's better to get someone knowledgable about cricket to ce; I've seen non-cricket types ce cricket articles, ends up a bit clunky. The big problem will be objections about hagiography, ie. where's the criticism? I copped this with Kippax; some people find it hard to believe that someone can be liked by just about everyone...lol. It's especially hard with Jackson because he's so revered and he died so young that there's not much about, so if it comes up at FAC, you will have to point that out. Oh, and get an ID for the pic of the 1930 team, I think he is second from left in the back row, but not 100%. Perhaps try WT:CRIC??

Phanto282 (talk) 11:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I ce'd the first section, hope this is to your taste. If so, I will run through the rest later in the week. I trimmed the descriptors of Doc Evatt down to just Labor politician as he has so many notable titles that it would make an inelegant sentence to include them all. I also removed the ref to Vic's world record score as it upset the flow a bit and I don't think its relevant to Jackson, apart from the fact he had to chase leather for a few days. Finally, I'm not clear on who he is the youngest (at 15yrs 1mo) for: Balmain?, in Sydney grade? or Australia-wide? This might be a hard one to prove. Phanto282 (talk) 13:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Adminship...?
I must say my jaw is still on the floor now...finding Requests for adminship/Mattinbgn as a redlink, and you as a non-admin, was a real shock for me. Please, please, please can we change that to a blue link? :) &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 23:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, looking forward to your pondering :) &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 01:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Requests for adminship/Mattinbgn - Gimme a yell if you need help with the questions. &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 05:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

What a good idea :-) !!! --Matilda talk 06:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Remember to transclude at WP:RFA (see WP:RFA/N for instructions). &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 06:24, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, when you finish answering, we'll do it for you. Some dudes oppose when people add the page incorrectly so it's best that someone else takes the responsiblity. Some guys can't be bothered checking a candidate properly so they go for those type of superficialities... Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 06:30, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey Matt, I've transcluded your RfA - a few of us got overeager and supported before you did so yourself, so I thought it best to transclude. It's not a problem (or shouldn't be one unless people decide to get anal about it). ~ Riana ⁂ 06:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * (Preemptive) congratulations! Now be sure to not delete the Main Page! :) &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Without wanting to preempt things too much, I am a little nervous about making a blue with the tools. Best to ease myself into things I guess.  Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 12:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: RFA
Sorry about this. I just assumed you had left the question blank; my mistake. Master of Puppets Care to share?  07:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: The Press
Thanks! Pawyilee (talk) 14:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Leslie Halliwell
Thanks for the protective reverts. The pest who keeps putting in "funny" film choices should be reported and blocked ASAP. Do you know anyone in admin? Jagdfeld (talk) 12:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Apology
Sorry for being a pain. I've had my fun, I'll find a new hobby now.

- "Diggers Rest", "Leslie Halliwell" etc. man

P.S. You've never heard it pronounced the French way?? :p —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.185.15.219 (talk) 23:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Suburbs of Brisbane category
Hello. I see you have changed the categories of Redcliffe City suburb articles to Category:Suburbs of Brisbane. Redcliffe isn't a part of Brisbane (and come the next local government elections in 2008 it is a part of the new Moreton Bay Regional Council). Informally areas surrounding the Brisbane City Council area may be referred to as "Brisbane" (sort of like an 'inner' or 'metro' South East Queensland), but I don't believe this category should be used on here in such an way. Just letting you know in case you aren't aware. :) SEO75  [  talk  ]  04:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess what Redcliffe articles should have had was a category similar to that of Strathpine, Queensland: Category:Pine Rivers, Queensland – it is closer to the Brisbane central business district than, say, Clontarf is, and it hasn't been added to Suburbs of Brisbane. No point in creating that now since the local elections are in just three months.  Has given me the idea (reminder?) to start work on a category for the new council it will form part of, as well as merging content from all three councils into the Moreton Bay Regional Council article, so thanks for that.  SEO75</SPAN></B> <sup class="noprint Template-Fact"> [  talk  ]  05:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Hervey bay
Sorry mate was not ment to undo your edit. I was trying to fix something else but i guess i forgot to check which tab i was in sorry hope theres no hard feelings cheers Jay2k (talk) 10:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Omg
I am such a berk! And I can't even blame tiredness at this time of day. --Dweller (talk) 12:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Warwick Armstrong
It won't need pruning. Look how big Lindwall and Bradman are. And Lindwall still has a few more kbs to go I think.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:)
No worries. BTW I've been busily gathering information during my travels to create a series of articles on Victorian pre-1994 local government, as well as a general article on local government in Victoria and the Kennett reforms. (The info in City of Williamstown is reproducable for every LGA in Victoria if we wish to, but I'm just going to do the Melbourne ones for now and see how we go.) That and WA politics are keeping me very busy! Orderinchaos 11:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 74 cities, 3 towns, 6 boroughs, 127 shires according to the Victorian Year Book 1994 - so 210, of which 53 are metropolitan and 157 non-metropolitan. Rather a few. Orderinchaos 11:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Queensland=yes parameter of WP Australia
The Queensland=yes parameter you've been using to tag Queensland related articles isn't functional (see Talk:Boondooma Dam) - it simply doesn't exist. QLD=yes is the correct method for tagging Queensland related articles. It's an easy mistake to make, I've done it myself often. Rather than go back and recheck your work, I'll tweak the WP Australia a bit later to support this parameter. -- Longhair\talk 23:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Longhair\talk 23:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck &mdash; Dan | talk 08:19, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Toot toot! Hooray! A few GAs to celebrate are in order IMHO!  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats.  Daniel  08:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 09:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Totally agree with Bln here - I've got one on hold and am passing one now, that should make it 94 very soon :O &mdash; <b style="color:#12A434">Dihydrogen Monoxide</b> 09:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * from me too :-) --Matilda talk 20:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations too, Matt! :) I am really sure you'll do well with the newly-acquired buttons.  Spebi  20:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't delete the Main Page...well, not really, I would like to see you de-sysopped :P Anyways, let's get some GAs going - a few more and we've got 100! &mdash; <b style="color:#12A434">Dihydrogen Monoxide</b> 02:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Armstrong
Added a graph.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 07:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Article Ratings
How do I go about getting the article ratings lifted from 'Start' or 'Stub' class - I've had a look and believe that they should easily be a higher rating but don't know what the process is they I need to go through. I was wondering if you can can you have a look at The Stems, The Triffids and The Hoodoo Gurus, have been working on creating articles for the various albums, singles, band members etc for each - I wouldn't mind somebody checking them and letting me know what improvements I need to make to bring them up to a better standard. Dan arndt (talk) 08:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice - would love to get them up to at least a GA status but would need a lot of help (FA status could only be a dream) - will list them at WikiProject Australia/Assessment/Requests and see what happens. Dan arndt (talk) 08:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehehe, thanks for the kind words Matt :) &mdash; <b style="color:#12A434">Dihydrogen Monoxide</b> 12:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The Triffids
Thanks for the assist in setting up the discography page - will keep on working at raising the status of the article - maybe one day GA status. Dan arndt (talk) 23:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi

 * As for McCool, I think that it seems well proportioned, although more info all round is always good. Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * If you do too much work on the Invincibles, how can the Poms help build the colony?  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coombabah State Primary School
Hi, I agree entirely with your merge !vote at Articles for deletion/Coombabah State Primary School as the article, when you saw it, was in a poor way. However, since then it has been completely rewritten to meet the legitimate concerns expressed and now has the multiple sources so it fully meets WP:N. Perhaps you would revisit your recommendation, please? TerriersFan (talk) 19:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip...
...re my non-admin closure. I'll try to remember to finish the job properly the next time I see one of those rare opportunities to do a non-admin closure! Lankiveil (talk) 11:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Sid Barnes pic
How's it going?

Top tip, btw, upload it to Commons - it's so much easier. --Dweller (talk) 14:42, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Jack Marsh

 * I've responded there. Also, I was also targeting some of the captains as you may have noticed... Craig, Booth ........I was also intending to spruce up Border, Simpson and Lawry which I need to reference.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 04:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I will have a look at Marsh now. I don't anticipate any problems. With the skippers, I am working on Collins at the moment and my mental worklist after him is Hill, Noble, Darling and Trumble. Bradman, Hassett and Johnson should all come up as part of the Invincibles project and the latter ones should draw interest from others. What a monumental featured topic that would be! -- Mattinbgn\talk 05:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have just promoted Marsh - Well done again. I see an advertisement for an Australian captains featured topic.  It is a huge job and may take a while, but sources will not be a problem. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 05:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done my reading for Noble and will be getting up to that over the weekend, so you probably needn't double up on Noble there. After that I will be mostly away in January, could you keep an eye on the three remaining GACs if someone asks for fixes. I don't want to withdraw and then have to queue up again when I come back again.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 06:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi
No, you don't need to upload it to Wikipedia if it's at Commons and it looks to me like you did a good job with licensing it appropriately. Great image! Love Tallon's expression. Did Miller actually play any bowling with that matchstick? --Dweller (talk) 12:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Doesn't it qualify under "first published more than 25 years ago"? NB I don't think you can reasonably argue it shows mental strain! --Dweller (talk) 13:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like we can't use it then. :-( --Dweller (talk) 13:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Belated Congrats
My belated personal congratulations to you on gaining adminship Matt. An excellent outcome. I have been away in Tasmania since I voted (on early holidays) but back now (and with some pics). Will be back on board again from now on. Best wishes -- VS talk 20:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Jackson


Will get onto it v v soon.

Phanto282 (talk) 00:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Further: I made the lead on Jackson more succinct, but we need to discuss the style section & then go to FAC. He lived a very short and eventful life, so all the salient facts are there. I think that the style section is spot on, but NPOV being what it is (I reckon a Balanced POV would be a better policy, but that's by the by), objections may come from those not familar with cricket about this section. There is a strong link between the "NSW style" (I think the ADB calls it the Sydney school of batsmanship) that goes Bannerman-Trumper-Macartney-Kippax-Jackson-McCabe. A couple of verbatim quotes about Jackson's style by respected writers might be the go (eg. Cardus, Robinson, someone contemporary) in the form of block quotes. Do you have any in the Frith book or from someone else? I will look around and see what I can find. BTW, I have another nice pic of Jackson playing a cover drive, shall we add it/is there room? Re McCool: I don't have great sources about McCool & as far as I know, no biography has been written about him. He is one of the "lost generation" of players after the war who left Australian cricket due to a lack of opportunity; puzzling as Australian cricket struggled to find reliable spinners in the era between the Invincibles and the rise of Benaud in the late 50s. There seems to have been an unwritten rule that Australia couldn't pick players who played o/s, which was costly when the team struggled in the mid 50s. I have spent a lot of time looking for pics of him without success. Also, there is a lack of anecdotes and personality type stuff about him, what motivated him etc. I found a ref that he continued playing in Newcastle (NSW) until he was 55, so he clearly loved the game. However, I will come back to him down the track when I have done a bit more research.

Phanto282 (talk) 12:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Good stuff! Johnlp (talk) 12:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)