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Seton Hall University
I need your help moving this to a ga nomination for the same reason i wanted it fa.. im also looking for a wiki mentor if your willing Rankun (talk) 02:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin Nom
Hi Mattinbgn, and thanks for the nice comments on my talk page about admin-ning. At the risk of sounding a little over-eager, I'd be happy to accept a nomination once I get a GA or two under my belt. I think Nundah, Queensland is getting there, once I get my photos of the area off my camera and into the article, and I clean up some of the more listy stuff towards the end of the article, I think I'll be close. Any suggestions on other ways to improve it would be welcome, though! Lankiveil (talk) 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC).
 * By the way, I've "creatively acquired" your icon idea and applied it to my own user page. I hope you don't mind!  Lankiveil (talk) 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC).

Noble
I'll be working on Noble sporadically while I'm on my break.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 09:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'll let that one go. I need a bit of a break from cricket I think.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 05:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Perth
The entire article is a resolute mess... it's genuinely sad to think it was once at a standard which passed GA. The Telethon stuff is important but shouldn't be in *that* section of the article, should be under a section called "events" which of course doesn't exist. Lots of work needed at some future point. Orderinchaos 12:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Jackson
Going through for a final copy-edit, I was confused by this (re 1929-30 season): "Another scare with illness saw him hospitalised in Adelaide after Christmas and complications after an operation to remove his tonsils, arranged by the Australian Board of Control saw Jackson lose a stone (6.3 kilograms) in weight.[27]" (1) Was it the same illness? (2) Did the Board really arrange the op, considering their renown tight-fistedness?

I'll finish the c-e then I reckon you should nominate for FA. I replaced the last image with one of him cover driving to go with the copy that describes the stroke (he looks like a young Steve Waugh). Will try hard to do it in the next couple of days.

Re McCool, I have found a pic I will upload soon. The only thing I can add at the moment is Frith reckons McCool learned his cricket on the back streets of Padington and went to the same school as Trumper, then became a "recluse" (frith's word) in later life as a farmer (which means his market gardening, I s'pose). Frith can be a bit frustrating like that, he said the same about Jack Gregory becoming a recluse, but not really explaining why or how. It would be good to get some more info on McCool's early life, war service, reason for moving to QLD, his later years, family etc.

Phanto282 (talk) 13:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have been frantically uploading pix recently, particularly Aus captains for the proposed feature topic. The Jackson/Kippax montage makes a nice desktop background, no? You have good support for the FAC, best wishes for it. Let me know down the track if you think its appropriate for me to support it (with a disclaimer, of course, that I did some c-e).

Phanto282 (talk) 09:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Greetings
(btw thanks for your cleanup/agreeing with the hoax thingo) From the rain coast - just try driving in two cars with three teenagers from Perth to Ballina in a hurry - then spending time with rellies into foxtel as background music - and not going on one theme park ride with the younger two - and understandingthe finn brothers and four seasons in one day lyrics must have been residing in the hills outside murwillumbah and youve got my head state in one easy pic :) SatuSuro 21:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * As for north cent vic - the same could go for lots of regional arts for most states - lists not even in alpha order with dubious claims to fame - hesp and i did try to start on regional categories in wa way back to ascertain the sometimes amazing inventions (sunset coast etc)SatuSuro 21:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The Triffids
Thnx for the vote of confidence in the article's status - the band was known as 'The Triffids' not 'Triffids' so I guess I need to go through and make sure all references are consistent through all the articles (must of missed some). You're probably right about concentrating on one article but I get easily distracted - so many articles to edit & never enough time. Will keep perservering on improving the article. Dan arndt (talk) 03:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi
Dunno if I posted in the right or wrong place. Please feel free to move it if it's wrong! --Dweller (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ta. Wasn't sure what to do. --Dweller (talk) 12:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Naming convention discussion
Please feel free to join in on my page until we find a better location. -- VS talk 02:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Akhtar Ayub
Thanks. I did it myself. Happy New Year! &mdash;Moondyne 05:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Clint Bolton tags
Hi. Just wanted to raise your edit on Talk:Clint Bolton, removing the WPFootballinAus banner. You're right in saying that the articles inclusion in FootballinAus is covered by the WP Australia banner. But, the player=yes parameter in WPFootballinAus includes the article in the A-League player project. It is a double-up but the WPAus doesn't have this parameter. - Tomperc (talk) 10:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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Single Australian (places) naming convention?
Hi Matt, Because of your earlier interest I thought it proper to inform you that I have now moved this discussion and titled it Naming convention (places) - renewed discussion - towards a single convention to here and have advertised same at WP:AWNB so as to invite all editors to provide their input. It will be interesting to see what interest is shown.-- VS talk 10:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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 * Have you seen my talk page lately... bot overload. One only has themselves to blame I guess :) -- Longhair\talk 21:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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Criteria for speedy deletion? 26th Regiment Royal Artillery Association
Hi, I noticed a speedy delete you just made to this just now, and wanted to comment. My issue is not with the deletion, but wording of the template that was placed by User:Corvus cornix, in such that he refers to Non-notable organization with no claims of notability, whereas as I understand notability is not a speedy deletable criteria, the criteria referenced is actualy CSD 7A: No indication of importance/significance. Also, I can't be sure as it was deleted as I was checking, but it looked as if there was mere minutes between the article creation and the sd tag being placed, implying no effort to establish notability anyway. So, if you agree with this comment, and I could well be wrong, then could you point out to the user the difference between establishing notability and highlighting CSD 7A violation, or correct any misunderstanding on my part. MickMacNee (talk) 23:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

GeorgeVM
I have made a couple of comments at George's page - including your name - which you might like to read and add to? -- VS talk 00:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for yr comments Mattinbgn. Will add some subtitles as suggested, --GeorgeVM (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * For your info - George's article nominated here. Cheers -- VS talk 05:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Eastern Housing Limited
Hi, you contacted me about a change I made to that article, and you either got the wrong article, or the wrong editor, as I have never been involved with that article. Thanks! J Milburn (talk) 14:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, yeah, it was Articles for deletion/Bravery's source. No problem, happy editing. J Milburn (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

MEETING
If possible theres a meeting going on in irc.freenode.net in channel #SHU about seton hall

Sorry :)
Haha I know what that's like, sounds like my watchlist sometimes when the bots come through. Basically the situation is that I've been doing articles for the old LGAs (pre-1994/amalgamation) and it turns out that about 70% of the new ones are incorrectly named, which is causing some headaches on the work I've been doing as the linking is all over the place. Ultimately this will end with rewriting nearly all of the new LGA articles in a fashion not dissimilar to the style the current WA ones are in (eg Shire of Corrigin as a random example). The situation only applies to Victoria. Orderinchaos 08:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * To expand, btw, the issue is that the Cities and Rural Cities were correctly named, as were Shires closer to Melbourne, but many others were named "X Shire" when their correct name is, according to all government sources, "Shire of X" - there are several exceptions which the very same documents confirm - Surf Coast Shire, Alpine Shire, Golden Plains Shire are the three that come to mind, I seem to recall there were six. Orderinchaos 08:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My source was simply the Government Gazette, as well as the Shire of Moira Planning Scheme and the news release from the Department of Local Government creating the shires to begin with. It's a bit of a weird one as the area has one name (Shire of Moira) - it's the parcel of land governed by the shire council, then we have the Moira Shire Council, which is the governing body. Sometimes the entity would be obtusely called the Council of the Shire of Moira (which is silly when the entity itself uses Moira Shire Council, as do the VEC). Where this gets confusing beyond belief is in NSW where under their Local Government Act an area can itself be called a council (eg Port Stephens Council). Orderinchaos 10:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've found an even stranger form when looking up Buloke: "The Municipal District of the Shire of Buloke". How convoluted is that? :| Orderinchaos 15:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Response
Maybe. I believe an administrator should be a flawless human being. Check my criteria. User:To the lake (RfA Criteria)
 * Sadly, neither Jesus Christ nor Gautama Buddha are going for RfA. I suspect, though, that if they did, they'd be opposed for WP:COI and most probably WP:OR and WP:RS violations. Orderinchaos 15:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: ignored !votes
Sure, it's really no trouble at all, Mattinbgn. WP:AFD is the wrong process for content improvement, the correct process is WP:EDIT. There is no need to delete the page history to change the content of the page, unless it is a WP:BLP or WP:CV violation. Any editor may use the edit button without an AFD to improve the article. If the subject was notable enough for a rewritten article, then it is notable, and therefore not a candidate for deletion. So those !votes, you see, were self-contradictory, and therefore ignored. Thanks, JERRY talk contribs 02:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * New reply at my talk. JERRY talk contribs 03:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to renominate it for deletion. I have no attachment to it and still think it is not especially viable as a regional descriptor. I only added to it because others had gone to the trouble of looking up references for the AfD debate so I may as well put them to good use. Euryalus (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Chris Frangou article
please EXPLAIN...--Chris funk bass (talk) 08:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

re. I liked this
Not sure if you noticed that in your RfA too ;) Cheers, &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide 21:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Test match
I think the Bucknor-Benson dubious decisions can be merged into the Sydney Test Match article, which is pending a move to a better name (I couldn't think of anything). What that article currently has is more neutral and detailed information on the decisions than the actual article on the decisions. So I think the Bucknor-Benson article can be just deleted. I hope to expand the article into a neutral account of mainly the post-match stuff and the racism controversy. Normally Wikipedia doesn't include very detailed accounts of the actual events of the match so that part will remain limited. Darrowen (talk) 00:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Surely there's a better title to be found... Darrowen (talk) 00:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I think the description of the match needs to be changed and made a bit more neater. I was thinking of writing a few lines on each session of each day, which is why I had previously split the Progress of Play section into a header for each day. Darrowen (talk) 00:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello again, by weakened relations I meant the players having a bit of a spat in the recent one-day series where Symonds, Sreesanth and Harbhajan had a go at each other and the crowd got involved. Darrowen (talk) 06:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Argh
Re Barham... I was using the VicRoads directory and it has a square over the two indicating it has a town map, but the colour of it obscured the Murray River, hence why I thought Barham was on the Vic side :) Orderinchaos 04:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well, at least the communities don't divide on statist lines and fight wars, I guess. :P I read the article about the South Australia-Victoria border dispute caused by some wonky surveying, it's all pretty amusing. Orderinchaos 04:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Safdar
I edited Bucknor's page with the new information that ICC removed him from Perth test.

Thanks. (SafdarQuddus (talk) 10:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC))

Andrew Symonds
Your use of the word "controversial" is absolutely spot-on. I am disappointed I didn't use that word the first time around. Thats why I like wikipedia so much. 5 edits later we have a much better article Nikhil (talk) 20:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Les Tyrell
Hi can i ask if your ok....why should this page be deleted, so what if my name has Thuringowa in it, i know of a lot of other editors on here with the name on the city they live in with-in their name, and what is this crap about it being thinly disguised campaign material...the page was started back in July 07 before any talks about a new super council or the city be merged with Townsville, Plus another editor came and thanked me for starting the page as it was next on his list. So what if Thuringowa as a city will be no more after March, Les will still be here as a person, Just like Tony Mooney and i see that his page is still ok to have and Tony is the same as Les only Les is a better mayor (he can run a city without getting it into $1.1mil of debt) so not just you but all of your friends on here that are having a pick on Thuringowa week need to lay off a bit and do some real editing.thanks Thuringowacityrep (talk) 08:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Gough Whitlam GA Nomination
Hi Mattinbgn, thanks for your comments. I'd like to push on with the GA Nomination but I will incorporate as many of your comments as I can before it percolates up to the top of the backlog.

I agree that several sections need citation work but it seems to have been a weak point that other editors have foundered on as well. This is where I will need the most help.

I thought the lead was fairly good giving a overview of his life, role and legacy. What else needs to be added to it?

I will have a crack at condensing the Dismissal section now. I was initially afraid I'd get jumped on, but yov've given me all the justification I need! :^)

Thanks again for taking a look. --haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 10:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Keith Miller
Hi. I'm feeling a little lonely. Care to come and (re)join me? --Dweller (talk) 15:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Courtesy note
Edmund Hillary was requested for semi-protection at RFPP. When I went to the article, I saw that you had protected it for a day. Well, I've changed that semi-protection to indefinite. The reason for this is Edmund Hillary was a well-known explorer, and since he died recently, there will be heavy vandalism for some time. If you object to the protection, feel free to change it, though if you do change it, make sure you note my allowing of you to change it in your reason so there's no appearance of a wheel war. :) Thanks. Acalamari 00:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! In my experience with recent deaths, I've found there's almost always heavy vandalism to the articles about them. With protecting pages, don't worry, most protections require a week or two. :) Acalamari 00:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Second Test Border gavaskar series 2007-08 your reverts
Hi. I will get the verifiable links. btw what makes you so sure that the claim is untrue. Give some verifiable link to the incidents that make you say "Of course, your claim is untrue as well" if you have.

Prior to
Hi Mattinbgn. Skimming through the FAC page I saw that "prior to" is a pet hate of yours. Thank you! I hope you also can't stand "thusly" (and excessive use of "thus"), "whilst", "overly", "as per", and automatic use of "on a ___ly basis" instead of simply "___ly". These are on my own list of irritations.

Greetings from the Dandenongs.

–&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 04:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * O, it was my old friend Tony from Sydney, was it? I must have misread as I skimmed. I'm not in Olinda, but a bit further down the hill. We do appreciate the slight negative correlation between heat and elevation. Hot down in Melbourne today. We had a cool change with heavy rain, but it seems to have reverted. (Damn Wikispeak!)
 * Where in the Riverina are you? It's huge, of course. I spend time up there near Wagga, which is classified as Riverina country.
 * –&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 05:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Berrigan, eh? I've probably driven through it, but can't remember. Hope the change has reached you now. The cool in Melbourne seems to have settled in: for the weekend at least. –&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 08:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Symonds compared to Clown and Predator
There are several references of Symonds being compared to clown (apart from the one in the artical) much older than this current incident including one by Geoffery Boycott http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/6169975.stm. It needs to be mentioned that those comparisons have never drawn so much attention or considered controvertial.

here is a reference from BBC sport from 14 December 2006 much before these events.

"He's not convinced me as a Test player yet," says Geoff Boycott of Andrew Symonds, seconds before the clown lookalike launches Monty Panesar not once, but twice, deep into the Waca crowd. 66.245.9.34 (talk) 08:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...
Troubling indeed :/ User page details in the end do it for me. Orderinchaos 10:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Check your email. Orderinchaos 10:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Brisbane is new ACOTF
Hi. You voted for Brisbane which has been selected for the new Australian collaboration. Please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 14:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Schwarky-talkie
I've closed the above discussion AFD as delete. If you have any problems, don't hesitate to ask. Regards, Rudget . 14:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The current article is already heavily slanted and biased in Pontings favour even without my contributions.

I can easily present photographic evidence to support my statements. In fact the evidence is on television...:)

Lucky? Collins
Added ref as per request at wt:cric. If you read the ref cited, you will see that Collins was destitute by 1931 and he had to apply for financial aid from the NSW Cricketers' Fund because he had no money for food. This continued until 1938. Not so lucky....

Phanto282 (talk) 00:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Would recommend buying a copy of Harte (new ed published in 2003 with additional stuff by Bernard Whimpress that didn’t really add anything of substance) as it covers all of this tricky stuff & you can go back to it again and again; it has errors but it’s a brilliant ref book as is Frith & Haigh’s new one, Inside Story. I use both, but I have no time for Roland Perry’s works: boring writer, poor researcher. Re Collins, I reckon the incident at The Oval in 1926 needs extensive coverage. It is curious as his tactics for the match were strange and when he got home, the NSWCA sacked him as capt, as did Waverley. As far as I can tell, an unprecedented occurrence in Aus cricket. Collins then took the hint and retired, so technically he wasn’t sacked as Aus capt. Remember what Armstrong said about betting on cricket to Lord Harris in 1921? This is an interesting ref:  (chapter2).


 * Phanto282 (talk) 01:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

the BS sockpuppet reply
I am aware of the "other means" i have been on wiki for over 3 years,(i know how it works) i dont have a sockpuppet block to accept, that is something that you have to get over with my mate of more than 27 years, so i am sure we my feel the same way about things... christ...we used to spend a lot of time together,what he has done my have added fuel to the fire and for that i'm sorry but i never held a gun to his head telling what to edit on here, however i did tell him to look at the Les page and offer his input, was this wrong ....NO....he added his POV as have a lot of other editors. Now stop trying to get me so pissed off that i do something that is wrong. Now drop this bullshit because the sooner you cut it out and the few other editors that have had a brain fart, the sooner we are all better off and back to how is was when i first added all that good info the Thuringowa page, all praise and everybody was happy Thuringowacityrep (talk) 04:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thuringowacityrep"

Collins-Gregory stand
The innings included a partnership of 119 in 89 minutes with Gregory, destroying the South African bowling.[6] - The stand was 209. 85 minutes seems to be the most commonly credited time (though you can see a 97 here). According to http://www.sportstats.com.au/thousandball.html, it is the fastest ever 200 stand, and someone (Roisterer or Phanto) may have the relevant edition of The Cricket Statistician to cite. Tintin 06:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Re-reading On Top Down Under, it is clear now that Collins scored 119 in a partnership of 209.  Thanks for the pick up. I will see at WP:CRIC who can help with a ref.  Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 06:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Jackson FAC
Hey Mattinbgn, Phanto282 asked me to cast my eyes over Archie Jackson so I've added a few comments at the FAC, nothing too controversial. Please let me know if they're of any use or if any need more discussion. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

deletion of Isotopia Festival
Hi Mattinbgn, about the deletion template you just inserted in Isotopia_Festival can you please discuss this issue in the talk page. Thanks.
 * Hi Mattinbgn, Rebeccaremoved the prod tag, I asked her why she did that, and she told me that everybody can remove it if the decision to remove is not consensual. Anyway I asked the NT News to provide me some references, pitty that they don't have an online archive of old articles. Thanks for your help. Cheers Luis v silva (talk) 23:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Test captains
Hi there. I've just gone and rattled off some batting graphs for all of the Australian captains. Please do check to see if I have missed anything or made some glaring errors or typos in the title etc. Thanks,  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 04:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

NSW South Coast
Replied at Talk:South Coast, New South Wales so others could join in.

On disambiguation with commas or brackets, I think the question needs to be resolved Australia wide. Probably brackets like rivers. If you look at the other NSW regions in Category:Regions of New South Wales - most are dabbed with a comma, two with brackets. Category:Regions of Western Australia shows consistent use of brackets. The one Vic region needing dabbing uses brackets. South Australia uses commas ... Regards --Matilda talk 04:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Review of Naming conventions (places) indicates brackets!--Matilda talk 04:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Blanking of Articles for deletion/Corey Delaney
Please unblank Articles for deletion/Corey Delaney. The page has been linked to in mainstream media, so protection is warrented, but blanking is not. Please unblank this page to allow context to be given to the news.com.au article. Fosnez (talk) 07:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I second that. Why did you blank it? Courtesy? Who's courtesy? Who requested it? News media are linked to it all over the world and you blank it? Doesn't seem right. ALLSTAR  echo 07:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand you opinion [|the AN/I has been logged]. Fosnez (talk) 07:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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 * As (I hope) your old friend - this made me laugh. Wow what fun to be an Admin hey?!-- VS  talk 11:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was gonna say this on my talk (but forgot!). Despite you being a Lovejoy (which we need, it seems :P), your comments there actually made the project look reputable. I just swore, abused a popular Australian TV show, complained about not getting an invite, and had my name misquoted. You should be proud :D Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 12:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooops, forgot why I'm here. . Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 12:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You've been quoted again (they missed me this time!). Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 07:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're more famous than me now ;) Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 08:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Ricky Ponting
Mattinbgn, thank you for your message concerning my edit to the "controversies" section of the "Ricky Ponting" article. You have suggested that my edit is, in your words, "way over the top" and "most of it doesn't even relate to Ponting". I disagree. Viewed objectively it gives accurate context and balance to the relevant controversy. And if you read the references to which my edit refers, you will see that each and every one of them refers to Ricky Ponting. By my edit I have added balance and accuracy to the text which preceded it. I have read the Wikipedia policy concerning UNDUE WEIGHT and note that it provides inter alia that "the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published". By deleting my edit it appears that you are seeking to ensure that the "Ricky Ponting" article does not do so. Moreover, by deleting my edit you are reinstating: (1) a form of text that suggests that Ponting's conduct, and that of the Australian cricket team, was the focus of a single controversy surrounding the relevant match; (2) text which states that "many publications" called for Ponting to be sacked when in truth only one article, written by one commentator, Peter Roebuck, and published in related newspapers (The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald) did so; and (3) text which omits any reference to relevant articles expressing the contrary point of view such as that written by Malcolm Conn to which I have referred. With respect your stated rationale for removing my edit is without foundation. Accordingly, I shall reinstate it. Quantummeruit (talk) 11:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

SmartBus Route
Thanks mate, I'll see if I can manage to improve the article to the Wiki standards. I'm not sure if the situation will go awry. But you're welcome to nominate it for deletion; while I can get the article up to scratch. Thanks.

Warwick Armstrong on hold
See Talk:Warwick Armstrong for details. - Shudde talk  06:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied on talk page. - Shudde talk  10:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Les Again
All I ask is that if you think that something is a issue, how about coming and talking to me about it on my talk page (that's what the talk page is for), I looked over a few other pages, some from Aus and some from the US before I wrote the page this time and I seen that a lot of them had a small list of what the person had done for the area, or if it was a doctor some pages had a small list of things that they had been awarded for and this is a small sourced list that can be found with out looking to hard about some of the awards he has been given. So again I can not see how I can be a COI when I use info that is refed and is from reliable source's...if you feel that the list has something in it that may be wrong ..let me know on my talk page and we can work it out, ok how about we give that a go hey. Thuringowacityrep (talk) 12:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, it is a list of what he and the council have achieved, and you even seen that I put Les and his council and I can not see how this is an endorsement this is your POV and it is really unfair that you keep going on like this, I asked that we use the talk page so that I can find out what it is that you feel should not be in that list, and them I can remove it, in an effort to keep you happy. but no you can't do that simple request that I ask for can you,wiki is not about you POV or Mine and as I said I didn't just add the list without looking on other pages to see how those pages where written, and this is how I came to add the list. I will go thought it again seeing how you don't want to have any positive input and I will only add that awards that where given to him, you will also see that I have gone in and added Tyrell after his first name, but I have to ask are you for real.... you say that the article discusses Tyrell in a familiar tone, how? it is worded the same sort of way as the Dan Gleeson and the Tony Mooney page's, I think that because I have said that I now the Mayor that you feel it has been written like that, I hate to spoil it for you but yes I do know the mayor, but not in the way you all seem to think and I will tell you know how I know him, I met him when I had to see him about holding a music event here in Thuringowa and met him a few time's after that meeting just to follow up on a few things, I then met him again when I was hired to spread soil with a Bobcat and he had a small BBQ after and I was asked to stay after the job for a meal and I did, we talked (as you do at a BBQ) and that is IT OK, so have you got it yet ...we are not best friends, pals, buddies or what ever else you people want to say, we just know each other, so DROP IT PLEASE. and the next thing, give it up about the sock-puppetry crap I have said what happened and yes ok maybe I should never had said anything to him but it is over now and I don't want to hear about again. All my ref's are reliable sources and as I have been told many times that not every reference has to be independent but you must have other sources to back it up and I feel that I have done this. I have a talk page and it is there to be used so if I have added something that in you POV is wrong ..lets talk about it as I am very easy to get along with if people come and talk to me about the issue and not just delete it. Thanks again Thuringowacityrep (talk) 05:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Clem 'Ill


Phanto282 (talk) 13:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

re:Sheep stubs
I forget where it's located, but it's likely to be at WikiProject Agriculture. It may not even be a guideline. But it's what the Project members have always done with sheep breed stubs. I first encountered the custom when I revamped Herdwick, which is also a name unlikely to need disambiguation from another article. It was moved to Herdwick (sheep). I came to realize this is sound policy, because the names for sheep breeds do not make it clear that they are Ovis aries. A Peppin Merino could be anything, from a car to a brand of cracker. But Peppin Merino (sheep) is very clearly about a type of sheep. If you really dislike it, I'm happy to discuss. But that type of move has been carried out at literally every sheep breed stub, so Peppin Merino would be the only one that isn't like that. Van Tucky 20:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hoodoo Gurus
What do you think of the article now? getting any closer to GA status? (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for John Cobb
Thanks for looking at John Cobb (Australian politician) so promptly. If you had any thoughts what it would need to go from 'start' to 'B' or GA, let me know. Cheers hamiltonstone (talk) 09:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)