User talk:Mattj010

Your submission at Articles for creation: St. Mary Carmelite Catholic Church (August 22)
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asilvering (talk) 00:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thank you for reviewing my first attempt at an article so quickly. I was fascinated by the church I'm looking to post on, and figured I would track down what I could learn about it online. It seemed to me that the main source I used (the city of Joliet's Historic Preservation Commission's landmark application) was the best I could find. I look forward to adding more details about the 19th century church as I find more info (its location along the historic Route 66 highway is something I'd like to dig further into), but I'm unfortunately in another state in the US and rarely get to venture to Joliet, IL to get ahold of more reading material in person. Would I need more literature to cite outside of the Joliet Historic Preservation? Mattj010 (talk) 14:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Mattj010, the problem as I see it with the historic landmark application is that it's a "primary source". I would expect it to be reliable information on the church, and wouldn't have any problem myself with you using it as a source in the article, but in order for the church to qualify for an article in the first place, you need to show that it has been covered in some depth by independent secondary sources. Given that it's only a locally important building (ie, it's not on the national register of historic buildings) I think it will be hard to find sources for this, especially online, though the local newspapers might have some useful stuff? The bibliography on the landmark application isn't terribly helpful, but does at least give you the names of the local papers.
 * What you definitely can do, whether you can find better sourcing about the church or not, is add a couple sentences about it on Joliet, Illinois. -- asilvering (talk) 01:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your feedback! I will most certainly continue to dig around to find better sources and at the very least will look into adding info about it on the Joliet page. All the best. Mattj010 (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:St. Mary Carmelite Catholic Church


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)