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WikiProject Rugby league on Wikipedia Signpost
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Non notable page
Found a non notable player page in Adrian Davis (rugby league) for you to put through the deletion process. Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

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Taranaki Rugby Academy
Hi there, just doing some new article assessment and you'd know whether the Taranaki Rugby Academy is a proper club or just a short-term training programme. If the former, a player would presumably come within WPNZ; if the later, probably not. Case in point is David Tameilau.  Schwede 66  05:00, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * From what I can gather, they are talking about the academy/development side that is below the Taranaki ITM Cup side. This Article suggests they only spend 8 weeks here, so I wouldn't tag them with a WPNZ tag based on just that. Mattlore (talk) 05:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * In that case, I agree. Thanks for the prompt response.  Schwede 66  05:07, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Leigh Centurions template
I noticed that Rangi Chase does not appear on Template:Leigh Centurions squad. Perhaps WikiProject Rugby league should start a project to update these templates? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 21:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That template looks like it has been updated only last month, so they must have missed him. Be bold and add him if he is confirmed in the squad :) I like this feature, Template:Squad maintenance, I haven't seen that before. Mattlore (talk) 21:17, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As you are one of the more active editors of WikiProject Rugby league, do you think you could take a look at this. The user I asked does not edit regularly, therefore I asked another admin who recommended I asked WikiProject Rugby league at the project talk page. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Re: Anthony Murray
Just created here. Probably should have done that first before moving the other page! I did actually end up creating a current squad template as well here by the way, as I think there are (just barely) enough notable players to make it worthwhile. J Mo 101 (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool, I thought I'd ask but assumed you'd have one in the works. At least creating a template should stop more being re-created. Mattlore (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I note that only those players who are (or may be) notable should be redlinked, but you've redlinked them all. Hence, you need to remove those links that should not be there.  Schwede 66  17:42, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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Help me out?!
Hi Mattlore. Since your probably one of the greatest legends to ever edit Rugby League articles (haha). I do alot of work on the history of Rugby Union (as you may know), I'm intrested in helping out the Rugby League side too. I know my way around the game and frequently watch the Warriors so I'm not new.

Are their any special sites that you would go to, to find info about older players - meaning players that are probably dead. I'm focusing on Kiwis representatives.. I see the site: Rugby league project is quite popular? Hopefully you can help me out. Cheers. Sirpottingmix (talk) 06:41, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, yeah rugbyleagueproject is quite good for stats. If you are focusing on older Kiwi representatives then also have a look at nzleague.co.nz and the NZRL's official site for help. If you're lucky a google will also bring up a local paper with some coverage of the particular player you are working on.
 * Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help, or if I'm not around ask at the project page, WP:RL. Mattlore (talk) 07:01, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Brian Smith fixes
I went ahead and fixed all the incoming links to Brian Smith (rugby) and Brian Smith (rugby league) to point to the relocated articles. You can check these to see if any of these fixes was incorrect. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:03, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Legend, thank you. I made a start but decided I had to come back to it another time as there were quite a few. Mattlore (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

USA Rugby
Hi, I'm contacting you as you're a user who edits articles for both Rugby union & league wikiprojects, could you please take a look at a little dispute going on at USA Rugby between myself and User:CUA 27. For me, someone could easily find themselves at USA Rugby while looking for USA Rugby League, so I included a WP:Hatnote to USA Rugby. The only reason CUA can give while continuously reverting me is that no one is that interested in USARL and therefore wouldn't make that error. Seems to be a blatant WP:NPOV violation by CUA, and I've asked him to stop. I've told him I'll take it to WP:ANI if needed, but I'd rather avoid that. As a neutral party with a foot in both League and Union camps, could you please take a look? If I'm in the wrong, I'll take it on the chin of course, but I feel I'm right to re-add the hatnote. Thanks 90.214.98.93 (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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Bradford Northern
I believe the use of full name Bradford Northern is preferable, as it helps to differentiate between this past incarnation, and its current incarnation of Bradford Bulls, and also differentiate between the previous "not quite" un-related club of Bradford FC. In addition, people from Bradford would historically refer to the club as Northern (some stalwarts still do), or now more commonly Bulls, so as not to be confused with City (that being Bradford City A.F.C.). Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, my understanding was it was more commonly called "Northern" than "Bradford" and so "Bradford Northern" is the name we should use. But I am about to go on a vacation, so I will leave you and to sort out the Jack Wilkinson (rugby league) page. Mattlore (talk) 22:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion tag (false rugby league competitions)
Hi mate, could you please put a speedy deletion tag on 2016 Rugby League Asian Series and Nippon Super Rugby League. I don't know how to (and I've been editing here since 07!)!Youndbuckerz (talk) 14:53, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Why delete 2016 Samoa vs Fiji Rugby League Test Match?
I've written my case on the talk page, you can read it there. Cheers, RugbyLeagueFan (talk) 02:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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Width on Infobox rugby league
Hi there. Sorry I raised it at the infobox but no takers.Theanonymousentry (talk) 08:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you don't get any replies try raising it at WP:RL or somewhere like that before trying mass changes. Mattlore (talk) 09:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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RRe:That's in Queensland
Thank you. I had been hoping that they would have used the first hook I had proposed, which would have included "Where is Sydney, That's In Queensland" but I'm glad though that the admins had the foresight to run in in the morning UK time so that it coincides with the match.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 08:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Caitlin Ryan
Ha ha. Shows you how much soap opera I watch. Nil!  Schwede 66  22:25, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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Club names' bracketed disambiguators
Hi, Mattlore. In this edit you changed the contents of Clive Churchill's infobox so that the bracketed disambiguator following Norths went from (Brisbane) to (BRL). To me this appears to be inconsistent with the way most BRL, NSWRL and any other RL clubs' names are given. Do you advocate a move away from city names to League acronyms?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * In my experience acronyms have usually been used in the infobox, as they are shorter. Do you prefer moving towards usually using city names? Mattlore (talk) 07:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Now that I've looked more closely it seems that Australian clubs have tended to have city names and New Zealand clubs, acronyms. I can see the arguments in favour of acronyms - shorter, allowing more space for the club names (especially in cases such as Wellington, Townsville and Toowoomba); and the more strict correctness of identifying a club as belonging to a League rather than to a city. But so far I've been in favour of city names because the only pertinent part of 'BRL' is the 'B', and within the borders of 'NSW' there can be more than two clubs with a name like Wests, Norths, etc. making 'Illawarra' or 'Sydney' a better descriptor that imparts immediate knowledge instead of relying on mouse hovering or link clicking; also the overlap with things like NRL and NRL, ARL and ARL, IRL and IRL, etc. However, I'm now starting to become a bit agnostic about the matter.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 19:31, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, well now I know there is two sides I won't be changing any existing disambiguators, so they can just remain as they are. Mattlore (talk) 20:56, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

NSW Cup - Ron Massey Cup - Sydney Shield
Hi Mattlore,

You do have a point about my addition of Ron Massey Cup and Sydney Shield information to the NSW Cup / Intrust Super Premiership season pages. If I were to rename as you suggest, however, I might upset the creators of the existing pages. For the time being, I wish to add to the existing articles until I have more information. From the NSW Cup/Ron Massey Club/Sydney Shield 2015 Grand Final programme, I have a list of Grand Finals in each competition, the point scorers and the teams. I have to either scan and OCR or type these out. I'm also planning to get Ladder/Table information for 2003-2011 competitions through microfilm of SMH or Daily Telegraph papers after the final round of each season.

Cheers, Nhoj1898 (talk) 23:41, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Mattlore,

After looking through microfilm reels of the Sydney Morning Herald and Daily Telegraph, I have tables for most, though not all, of the lower grade / tier competitions from 2003 to 2010. Before I set up pages, I wanted to canvass your thoughts. I like the idea of having all the competitions on one page, and using the info-box to summarise both / all three. So, I'm thinking of setting up the pages as, say, 2010 NSWRL season rather than as a NSW Cup page. This also makes sense, as before 2008, the competition was the Premier League. That name is already claimed by the association football page 2007 NSW Premier League season. Once established as 2xxx NSWRL season pages, there is a stronger argument to rename the existing NSW Cup pages.

Interested in your opionion.

Cheers, Nhoj1898 (talk) 00:17, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey Nhoj1898, I would be supportive of having them at 2xxx NSWRL season pages and including more competitions. As long as the page is sourced then I don't see the problem. If you want more discussion you could raise the issue at WP:RL, or otherwise be bold and go ahead and make a start. Cheers, Mattlore (talk) 04:27, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

2016 NRL Grand Final
I've absolutely had enough of you and the rest of the pety admins here on Wikipedia. You only selectively ban people on making edits that don't suit your ideals and for no true reason. You want to continue to enforce edits based on what you THINK is right as opposed to FACTS then you can jam this website up your ass because I'm through with getting picked on by you.
 * Hi Cody, I am not an administrator and I am not picking on you. I am just asking you to discuss the matter on the talk page before you make any more edits, as four experienced editors have already reverted the changes. As you will see on the talk page, I have included reasons and sources for why I believe your edits are incorrect, and I have not seen any sources that back up your point of view. I am happy to continue the discussion on the talk page. Mattlore (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

2 Cheap Cars
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Draft:WhatCulture Pro Wrestling
Is it clear to say that the article Draft:WhatCulture Pro Wrestling requires notability to be granted article status?
 * Yes, as I said when I declined the nomination "Previously deleted in the mainspace, this article does not have references or attempt to clearly establish notability". I would have a read of Notability (organizations and companies), especially these two sections: WP:ORGIN and WP:ORGIND. Mattlore (talk) 19:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So how would you suggest I go forth from here to help the draft gain article status?
 * Either locate more independent sources about the organisation, or alternatively it might just be a subject that doesn't qualify for its own article. Mattlore (talk) 04:47, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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Riki Papakura
Hi Mattlore, I've seen a pen-picture from Warrington of Riki Papakura that states… "a Maori centre who preferred to play in bare feet", is this correct? It appears to be a bit too "Noble savage" to me. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:01, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the 100 years: Māori rugby league, 1908–2008 source, and as he only played on game for Warrington, I'd be wary of relying on the pen-pic as a source. Mattlore (talk) 20:31, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mattlore, I'll give it a wide-berth. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:52, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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