User talk:Mattythewhite/Archive 31

User:Minas7
They continue with their no-PC-update policy. Sincerely Matty, I am not in a position to give you tips on how to do your job (and even if I was, I would not do it anyway), but if no block is going to occur, then i'll stop wasting your/my time and just revert, revert, revert/ignore, ignore, ignore. I repeat what I conveyed in last message regarding this subject, quite worrysome that now, not only are the PC updates still left out but the maths are now completely wrong (these last reversions I carried out, not one player - according to SOCCERWAY that is - had their AEK Larnaca stats right!).

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

George Friend
Hi there, the updates I've made to George Friend's page include, updated appearances (http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=43702), gaining a degree (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/boro-defender-george-friend-swaps-8821722) and also club and personal honours. They are all true and correct. If you could allow this content to be added it would be greatly appreciated, improving Friend's page. Many thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boro3232 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Demarai Gray
Is there a reason you reverted the edit to his stats table, it seemed fine to me? Jimmy Skitz's Answer Machine 19:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Because it didn't meet the layout displayed at WikiProject Football/Players. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Gordon/Godfrey
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Norwich_City_F.C._squad&diff=prev&oldid=700496069 Gerald? Graham? Goodness only knows, but thanks] --Dweller (talk) 09:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Alex Pearce
I have reverted your edit (and added a reference) - a quick check on Soccerbase would have revealed that MadejskiMark was quite correct in his edit.. Cheers. DKBY2015 (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Fixed-width columns in manager stats tables
Hello. Was wondering why you decided to adopt fixed-width columns rather than the default settings? My eyesight requires me to have my screen font size rather larger than factory setting, and for me, the WP default table settings at Mark Yates (footballer) made it neat, compact and comfortable to read. The fixed-width version viewed on IE11 is still acceptable, albeit wider overall. But at my font size on Firefox v.43.0.4, my browser of choice, the dates columns are set too narrow to display the 22 December 2009 date on a single line, but the much wider G/W/D/L cells make the table significantly wider overall (excluding the ref column), and all that added white space round the numbers doesn't aid readability. If you check out Help:Table, towards the bottom of the section, there's a warning in italics that advises against setting fixed-width in pixels for various user-end reasons such as browser rendering, font-size issues, device size. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for pointing this out. As someone who's usually conscious of accessibility, I should have thought of the impact on browers, font sizes, devices etc.  I've re-formatted the Yates table, I think it's now how it should be.
 * Another point re accessibility: these tables give no explicit indication as to what "G W D L Win %" actually mean. How do you think they should be best explained?  Perhaps a key above the table, tooltips, or both? Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Personally, I prefer P, which is what most published league tables use for their column headings and what Template:WDL uses in its examples, or M, both of which are widely used in manager lists (where G isn't). But there does seem to be a de facto consensus for individual stats tables to use G. Tooltips for rendering abbreviations are permitted as an an exception to the no-interaction rule, and they have the virtue of not being overly intrusive. In context of football stats on an English-language website, even one with a large non-native-speaking readership, if we started putting a key for something as bleedinobvious as WDL we really would be asking for trouble. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:37, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Steve Harper
Steve Harper has joined Sunderland, please actual read facts before you comment, I was still editing the page.
 * Please cite your sources before saving your edits. That way you won't get reverted. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Simon Clist
I went to school with Simon for over a decade. He was born in Bournemouth, not Shaftesbury (where we went to school). I can't reference his birth place, and it doesn't particularly matter either I suppose. I was just amending it to satisfy my OCD! To be fair, I don't think Shaftesbury hospital even had/has a birthing center, so you could check that I suppose. Otherwise it'll have to stay incorrect I guess. Thanks anyway.217.155.13.45 (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, all content needs to be covered by reliable sources, so I'm afraid anecdotal evidence doesn't count for anything. But I will try to see if I can find a source that cites Bournemouth as his POB. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Bournemouth now down as the POB. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Reverted change?
I changed something on Matt Ingram's page and you reverted it. I did not vandalise it like you said I did and only entered correct information. Can you tell me what I did wrong? Thanks. Hjkqpr82 (talk) 20:52, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You have been warned multiple times about adding unsourced content. Please refer to WP:CITE and WP:RS for more information. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:53, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Charlie Austin
Hello Matty, could you please semi-protect Charlie Austin... a lot of disgruntled Man United fans editing... JMHamo (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

My mistakes
As soon as I make a mistake I change it, I find it disrespectful that as soon as it happens you're messaging me, give me a chance, we can't all be super professional like you are, I thought this was an open community! ViscountViktor (talk) 17:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * To be fair, you do have a track record of not bothering with the dates. I'm just giving you a polite and gentle reminder. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:45, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Daniel Amartey/Leicester City
Hi mate, people keep adding unsourced numbers for him on the Leicester squad page, I've reverted twice already, if you can help keep an eye on this. Jimmy Skitz's Answer Machine 19:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Chris stokes
Stop being busy and editing my page i am chris stokes I can manage my own page without you. Thanks
 * Why are you trying to rewrite your career history, ie by blanking out your spell with Swindon Submarine? Mattythewhite (talk) 02:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

What has is got to do with you? I don't understand why it even affects you? Your not MR Wikipedia.
 * Nout to be ashamed of, playing for Swindon Supermarine. Mattythewhite (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I think I can decide if I want it on there or not don't you think...?
 * No I don't, actually. Because it's a fact that Chris Stokes played for Swindon Supermarine, and most importantly that is supported by multiple reliable sources.  But it's obvious your objective is to blemish your career record, so you're bound to not take that on board. Mattythewhite (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Who made you MR Wikipedia?? Why you feel the need to edit people's pages?
 * What is "MR Wikipedia"? Mattythewhite (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Well it ain't you pal so I don't know why you feel the need to edit people's pages? Don't you have a job or even more important things to do with your life?
 * Lol. Take a look at WP:COI and WP:RS, and you might understand why your edits are being undone. Mattythewhite (talk) 03:11, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Your way to busy for me, rather not waste minutes of my life reading that thanks, actually I've wasted enough time talking to you I'm looking forward to you blocking me :)
 * Perhaps you can spend that time thinking about what went so terribly wrong at Southend :') Mattythewhite (talk) 03:26, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

complaint against User:ARNAB22
This is a complaint against User:ARNAB22 ...Sir i just found out from the talk page of this user that even u have asked him to behave. But he simply refuses to do so. For instance, on the Bollywood wikipedia page, he has been posting a new pic of Shah Rukh Khan even though there is already a pic of Shah Rukh given there. And in the caption he writes that Shah Rukh has won "most number of awards", without giving any citation. Every time someone removes this pic and citation, he again posts it there, despite being warned against this. He recently did this on 20 Jan, 2016. In addition, he uses poor English in many of his other edits, and has been warned on this too by other users (see his talk page). I request you to take action against User:ARNAB22. Thanks.117.197.23.118 (talk) 11:08, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Edit war
Hello,

So an editor Josepolivares is edit warring me about edits on Izet Hajrović's page, whether to put SD Eibar or just Eibar as team he plays for. Could anyone just resolve it before it gets out of control? HankMoodyTZ (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Paul Robinson (footballer, born 1979)
The page has been vandalised.Xx236 (talk) 12:21, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've requested temporary semi-protection. DBaK (talk) 13:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks DBaK. It seems stable now (when I last looked) but many edits earlier. Also I confess when I tried to restore the page I inadvertently put back one "Judas" edit which had been missed by the last person to try to keep a lid on it. Eagleash (talk) 13:15, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ha! Been there, done that! Thanks DBaK (talk) 15:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nuneaton Town F.C. squad
Template:Nuneaton Town F.C. squad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. JMHamo (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Dan Petrescu
I note your comments, but please don't revert me again. I will (PROMISE) add more references tomorrow - I don't have time at present. DKBY2015 (talk) 13:30, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the meantime, I have tagged the unsourced content. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:37, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Gee thanks -you're a true gent.  DKBY2015 (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the silly comment - I was trying to be ironic! More seriously, I am struggling with the Petrescu stats - there seem to be a few discrepancies on the Soccerbase database. I'll have another look over the weekend. DKBY2015 (talk) 19:26, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Sam Morsy
http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/article/latics-sign-morsy-and-colclough-from-chesterfield-and-crewe-2926044.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.103.114 (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Users
Hello Mattythewhite, I saw you blocked today. I noticed from the User Creation Log that a similarly sounding username was created 3 minutes earlier which has not edited yet. Both accounts were created as "iOS App Account Creation". As I cannot judge the underlying IPs, but theorised there may be a connection as SP (e.g. future block evasion), I thought I'd notify you, to see if it needs any action, or not. Cheers, Horseless Headman (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC).

Gant Holt
Hi I hope this is in the right place if not I apologise Mattythewhite I have twice now had a message saying that I will be blocked if I change grant holt posting with out sourced content. If you GOOGLE grant holt you will find that he is no longer a player of wigan so is now a free agent. Also please feel free to check on the EDP website WIGAN Athletics OFFICIAL website amd many other sites and you will see that I am right in changing the info to state that he is now a free agent having left WIGAN.
 * Please refer to WP:BURDEN. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:05, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Tommy Taylor (footballer, born 1951)
Hi I hope this is in the right place if not I apologise Mattythewhite, but I see you have revised my recent Category additions, but back 1951, Hornchurch was part of Essex, not in London Borough as Havering did not exist until 1975, hence the additions. Please feel free to check the Essex County Council records. LordAnon of Essex (talk) 22:0, 31 January 2016 (UTC).
 * And Category:People from Hornchurch is itself in Category:People from Essex (before 1965), and adding that, or any county category, would be overcategorisation. This was explained to you on your talk page in July 2015. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

M
Are you the menager? Xhoi9797 (talk) 22:35, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Luke james
Hi mattythewhite, I have recently updated Luke James' current team, and you keep changing it. He signed on loan to Hartlepool United FC this morning ItsMeLouis (talk) 23:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, please note that a realiable source needs to be added to the article to verify this. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 23:07, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

AEK Larnaca fan "user"
Has "abandoned" the account and returned to the IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.207.164.174).

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:40, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Watchlist
Hi, sorry to bother you. My watchlist looks weird so I am just checking if more editors have the same problem? Qed237&#160;(talk) 17:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Working now again. Qed237&#160;(talk) 18:39, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Luis Enrique (footballer)
Hello there,

I was trying to fix the display of the refs in the given table, because ref #55 looked kind of odd (with wording such as "Retrieved 27 January 2016.br"). I looked only partially at the edit history before making my "thing", hence I did not have a clue as to who inserted the table in the first place, and was only (as always) trying to help. Afterwards, I checked said source and the weird symbols had disappeared, so I thought I had "nailed it".

Perhaps the use of the word "shabby" was not correct here? I meant to say "something in disarray" or "unaligned", not trying to belittle anyone. Apologies to anyone that might feel uneasy with my usage of such a term in the future.

Attentively, continue the good work --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I apologise if you felt I was at all rude, I'm just a little cranky from a bad headache. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

No worries from my part, if anyone has a (bad) custom of throwing summary tantrums here that's "yours truly", you were not rude but I feared you were "responding in kind" to what you perceived as MY rudeness. Get better because the project needs you, undoubtedly! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mattythewhite, I did not edit or even vist the Newcastle FC page. I edited the Cyanide Poisoning page to include a ref to the Bhopal Disaster. If this had some knock-on to your page I regret it. Stewart 203.166.123.36 (talk) 02:08, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Florent Malouda latest transfer
Hello Mat,

Thanks for your edit regarding the Florent Malouda's latest transfer, I've been trying to be neutral about it, but may be I didn't use the proper words to describe it, saying that it was a "weird move" might not be the most appropriate way to describe it, so I'd rather replace it with "surprise move". I'm from Egypt, and Wadi Degla is a newly founded club, so it was a surprise to me, and to every one actually, when that signing was announced.

All respects to any one mentioned in my edits/comments and to yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guidemember (talk • contribs) 08:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Newbie!
Hi Matty, I am indeed new and must apologise for the files citation. I am having difficulty in adding the date Danny Rose Joined Northampton Town and believe it's a spacing issue. That said I am working from smart phone which only lets me write blind! Can you help. Thanks Frenchie72 (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Cheers
Thanks for the support. DjlnDjln (talk) 02:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi,
He's agent did say he wants to sign for Steaua and they want him and they said it is only a matter of time before he signs as he wants Champions League Football, I can give a source but it is in a different language. Killercrock89 (talk) 12:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Jimmy McIlroy
Hi Matty,

I have a URL for a citation on this edit. It is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32284251

Not often I would make an edit so wasn't really sure of the correct process.

All the best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainev (talk • contribs) 21:11, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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Carlos Eduardo de Oliveira Alves
We talked before about this article, so here it goes for your analysis: any suggestions on how to tackle this? The person continues to add games for all competitions in his infobox (summaries could not be clearer), and all of their edits are made from a mobile device, so they're pretty much "unreachable". I'm pretty sure this is the account Sky1two, which has not edited in months, coincidentally shortly after receiving your first messages.

Running out of options here but revert, what's your intake? Cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's much we can do if they're hopping IPs, other than warn them and block when things have escalated. I've watchlisted the article and will revert/warn when I see these edits. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

What did I do this time?
?ViscountViktor (talk) 17:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please refer to User talk:ViscountViktor. You've been reminded about this several times. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:21, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Stadium links
Dear Mattythewhite, please read my previous messages, then you can see that I was given permission by other admins to add links to stadium websites, because a lot of stadium pages on Wikipedia lack stadium pictures. And adding pictures without links is often impossible because of copyright issues etcetera, please see my older messages for more information. Kind regards, farmnation
 * You mean like this message, from four days ago, when you were warned for adding a spam link? Mattythewhite (talk) 14:56, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI: Sockpuppet investigations/Staafros1. I'm on the road and can't easily follow up but perhaps you can. Seems a block should have been imposed a while ago. JohnInDC (talk) 23:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Roy Carroll edit
Hi. I am only a very occasional contributor and have no idea how this process works. You removed my edit saying there was "no reliable source". I'm not sure why you think a source is necessary ; the season statistics speak for themselves, and are available for all to see on the 2007-8 season page for Derby - 14 games after Carroll began playing, during which he let in 38 goals, and the club set a new Premiership record for the lowest ever points total. If you need a cross-reference as a "reliable source" it would be this Wiki page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_Derby_County_F.C._season. I don't know how to use that in a way which is acceptable to you. BOB — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.5.57 (talk) 22:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Francesco Guidolin
Please don't call me a vandal. All information I have inputted is fact and most of it is sourced or linked to sourced Wikipedia material. Guidolin's managerial statistics is based on www.soccerbase.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs) 00:25, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Dave Challinor
Please stop reverting my edit. My input is information based on www.soccerbase.com and I'm adding this information has template for others to edit in the future. Feel free to improve if you have better information but deleting is unnecessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs) 00:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * And you can't even be bothered to reference it properly. If you keep this up, you will be blocked. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Please stop threatening to "block" me. The reference is clear - all people need to do is visit www.soccerbase.com - if you feel this needs improvement feel free to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs) 00:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, they need to enter the manager's name in the search bar and select managers on the dropdown menu. Why should we make our readers search for sources, when we could easily place them there?  Sheer laziness.  And actually, it's down to you to do so.  See WP:BURDEN. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:46, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

You've taken the enjoyment of it. I'll leave it to you to monitor English league football as you appear to be in the know. Good luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs) 00:58, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, it's up to you if you want to edit within policy. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Report - Doubt
1 - I actually told you once I was going to drop this, but I won't, really feeling curious as to how this will end... The AEK Larnaca fan continues at it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.207.164.174);

2 - Steven Vitória, one important, the other not so: the user that reverted me (I'm on good terms with them, just don't know where else to turn for mediation) said that, since Mr. Vitória is now a Canadian international, we should refer to him as a "soccer player" not a "footballer". Come again? Makes no sense to me, is this standard policy? I thought ALL articles should refer to people in the sport as footballers, why the differentiation?

The second part: they did not give me more than two examples to back them up, but apparently we should enter city country AND province in the infobox. Shouldn't we go with just with city/town and country, leaving further geographic details to the storyline proper? Again, this is of minor importance, and if you check the edit history, you'll see I have not further reverted anything.

Thanks in advance, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 17:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * First point: I believe they are correct, in line with MOS:ENGVAR. Second point: I know I wouldn't include the province for a European player, but whether standard practice is different for biographies of players from across the pond I don't honestly know. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

My Luca Modrić edit.
I was watching the match and Luka Modrić scored a goal. I went to his page on Wikipedia and added one goal to his total. It was later removed for no reason. A few minutes later someone changed his total again to what i added before. If it's right, why can't you guys let me take the credit of editing it. Thabk You Uu maati (talk) 00:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Because you only updated the goal count, neglecting the appearances and the timestamp. Perhaps you should be more focussed on accuracy and less on getting "credit". Mattythewhite (talk) 00:32, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Eduardo de Oliveira Alves (part 2)
Situation out of control. Peace! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 13:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Semi-protected for one week. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Tim Ryan
Hi, thanks for the message! It was the first time I'd edited one of those boxes and wasn't really aware of how to link a citation to it - the stats I got for his appearances and goals are from the Buxton FC official website - http://football29.wix.com/buxtonfc#!first-team---team/c1za9 (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Table dates
Hi, thanks for your message! Not to sound...dumb, for lack of a better term, but what do you mean by 'table dates'? Thanks, MAINEiac4434 (talk) 01:16, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably me not being clear enough... like the "Statistics correct as of match played 7 February 2016" text here. I've updated the dates on the three MUFC player lists for the match played yesterday. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:20, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I understand now. Thanks, will do! MAINEiac4434 (talk) 22:58, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

You may be interested in
what I assume to be Sir gidabout's latest account:. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:27, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Mediation
Matty, could you weigh in on this please (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MuyXmuy#Javad_Nekounam)? In the statistics chart below (not the box proper), is it not customary practice to link the leagues only one time, per WP:OLINK? I have done that (oh, and inserting also proper competition name, for example UAE Arabian Gulf League instead of the redirect "UAE Football League") only to be reverted twice.

User, who communicated with me in the past, also does not seem to reply. I have not re-reverted anything, and come to you for an impartial approach to see if they believe me. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

They have replied, but I'd still like to have your input there please. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:50, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello everyone :)

Subject : Javad Nekounam & Persian Gulf Pro League

"Persian Gulf Pro League" which is the highest level of football competition in Iran has changed names several times over the years.

1970-1972 : Tehran Local League

1972-1978 : Takht Jamshid Cup

1989-1990 : Qods League

1991-2001 : Azadegan League

2001-2006 : Iran Pro League

2006-2014 : Persian Gulf Cup

2014-* * * * : Persian Gulf Pro League

Moreover, the second-highest football competition in Iran is now called Azadegan League or (1st Division).

Furthermore, top football league in UAE (UAE Arabian Gulf League) has changed names several times, also.

1973-2007 : UAE Football League

2007-2013 : UAE Pro League

2013-* * * * : UAE Arabian Gulf League

When Javad Nekounam played for Pas F.C., the Iranian top-level football league was called "Azadegan League" from 1998-2001 and it was called Iran Pro League from 2001-2006. When he played for Al-Wahda F.C. & Al-Sharjah SCC from 2005-2006, the UAE football league was called UAE Football League. When he played for Esteghlal F.C. from 2012-2014, the Iranian football league was called Persian Gulf Cup. When he played for Saipa F.C. from 2015-2016, the Iranian football league is now called Persian Gulf Pro League.

I believe we should NOT change history and name the leagues as they were identified as, not as they currently are.

Happy editing :) MuyXmuy (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Well? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:39, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * For historical accuracy, we should refer to competitions by their name at the time, so I agree we should include the Persian Gulf Pro League's previous names. I'd argue we should link each of the names, as our readers may not otherwise realise that they are the same competition, but rather assume they are different competitions that aren't linked. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:34, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Then, I will leave things as the user above inserted. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:02, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Request
Matty, could you please see that CE Sabadell FC is moved to its prior name (that is to say, without the dots in the "FC" bit)? A fellow user came to my page with the concern that the move was unnecessary and unwarranted, a concern which I share.

I leave it to your better judgement, of course. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Liverpool F.C.
Hi Mattythewhite! I edited Liverpool F.C. page to add Marko Grujic's number, which I did not cite... I based that off of this webpage and I was wondering if it could be considered a good enough source to cite. Thank you for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcat9 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

From the plains of Cyprus...
...where User:Minas7 often roams free, I bring you this guy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FifaManager2015). Seems like an Anorthosis Famagusta FC fan, also does not PC update in spite of several warnings. I reverted the players where I edit regularly in (Toni Calvo, Andrea Orlandi, couple more), but I suppose they do that in all.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Handed a v4im warning. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Regarding your linguistic doubt, I would really like to help because you need it, but it will be quite complicated, let's put it that way... and it has NOTHING to do with the fact that I have interacted with said user for several years, almost always in good terms even though I do admit he is a difficult user to work with (I admit I am also, so there). It has SOLELY to do with the fact I do not know what "dois malas" means, not in a million years. Is he trying to speak Portuguese ("dois" is two, "malas" is suitcases)? Spanish (in that case "malas" would be the feminin of bad, in a plural form, could it mean he thinks you wrongly warned him twice?)?

Do you want me to ask him directly? If not, of course I will not, just say "the word". --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:51, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I suspect he's being passive-aggressive, but if you don't mind asking him I would appreciate it. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Is not aggressive, it's frustration. It is a slang term for "scolding" means "two reprimands." Anyway, I apologize. I will not do more. Josepolivares (talk) 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Oops, glad "beef" (for lack of a better word) is settled, cheers both. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:14, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Hint about recent vandalism's in Portuguese football
Recently there's been a spike in vandalism in Portuguese football and Benfica related articles from a an IP that starts with something like 85.240. Since it started to be really annoying, I'll help out since no one else sees this more often that I do. Examples:


 * , this one just does one vandalism in [Rui Vitória]
 * , this one just does one vandalism in [Rui Vitória]

There are others that diverge a little in the IP sequence, but do the same kind of edits in the same articles, most are vandalism, others aren't, but the editing style is unmistakeable:

And there are the edits which are not vandalism, but allows me to show that this is the same person, see the consistency in updating stats in 2015–16 S.L. Benfica season, or in Benfica players:
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".
 * In this account, he uses the edit summary to write stuff like "Porto is shit, Sporting is shit, Proença is corrupt".

I think if yourself or some admin that knows how to detect mannerism's and an editing pattern does some research, it will easily find out who this is. A checkuser will prove it, I'm sure. It's a obvious WP:DUCK. I'll give a hint, it has a registered account that edits in the same style and this [edit] will instantly reveal who he is, since there is only one person here that consistently writes "Portuguese champions Benfica" across various articles. Also, he generally vandalises when Benfica loses points, like in 15 December with União Madeira or recently with Porto on 12 February. When Benfica is on a winning streak, he uses his account, but when it loses, he starts vandalising and his account is dormant.--Threeohsix (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * TPS: ah, the nuisance from Setúbal, which you (Matty, not TOS) reverted in Rui Fonte after he inserted vandalism, then returned immediately after with this (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rui_Fonte&diff=695572314&oldid=695561788, "Enraba Franguícios" is very hard to be translated, but "Enraba" would find some translation in - cover your ears - "Buttfucks" and "Franguícios" is a mix between "Frango" (Portuguese word for a severe blunder by a goalkeeper that results in goal) and Rui Patrício's name).

This "person" lives and breathes hatred that cannot be "healed" for Sporting Clube de Portugal and FC Porto, in my opinion we don't need "people" like this in WP. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:32, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

In Steven Vitória, for example, several other IP addresses starting with 85 can be found. Also, have a look at this other IP (here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.240.135.184), the unblock request made by this "person" is both comical and to vomit one's insides (oh, and don't forget the summaries, seems to have a verbal knack for "motherfucker" and "son of a whore"!). Block range anyone? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Vasco, I've provided the evidence to relate all IP's and it's now on admins. If they do a behavioural analysis in the main account, they will easily find out it's the same person. I'll say one more thing. It's not the first time this IP's 85.240 something are involved in multiple account abuse. There is even a category for it in Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Fixed4u which, and  may remember. And that are just the one's that were caught, were are others that I noticed,, , , . Basically, Fixed4u never left, he just created another account and carry on.--Threeohsix (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for fixing my Brentford knowledge :)

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Jabo Ibehre
Hi Matty,

Thanks for your recent review/edit of my update to Jabo Ibehre's stats.

I was wondering why this edit was made and why it was marked "partial stats update". If you mean by partial in terms of being part-way through the season, that's true, but 19 December (the previous update date) is also partial in this way, yet that was accepted.

Using the BBC football website, a well-used and reliable source for football-related articles on Wikipedia, I looked through the line-ups for all of Carlisle's matches, both league and cup, from 19 December onwards, and added the numbers for his appearances and goals. I then checked that the totals matched up, which they did.

It's the first time I've updated football stats but I am certain that I got the correct numbers from a reliable source. Could you explain why you undid this edit? Is there perhaps only a certain point during the season when you're supposed to edit these things?

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MorbidStories (talk • contribs) 08:55, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Because the figures in the "Total" column were not updated, meaning the figures were not synchronised. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Minas7...
...continues at it, in the anon "form" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.207.164.174). Eager to know when is the next block finally a-comin'! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked for 3 months. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:51, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

You do know what this means, right Matty? He'll switch to the account, always (not) learning :) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

In a related nuisance, User:Sir gidabout continues, now as anon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.178.37.61). The audacity of some people! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:07, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

There seems to be a vast array of IPs starting with 86 (seen for example in Slaviša Jokanović, Ernesto Valverde or Rubi (footballer)). Now, for wanting to HELP and stop a sock in its tracks, I am getting this summary in my edits: "Non-autoconfirmed user rapidly reverting edits". Well, pardon me WP! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * This one does not start with 86 no sir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.153.91.122), but it is also him! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:49, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The 86.178.37.61 address continues, as of NOW. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 12:44, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Think nothing of my rant in paragraph #4 of my original message, it's just a technicality in which WP engages for ALL people that do the same actions I did, nothing personal against me of course. I just wrote that thinking of all those idiot accounts that are created just for vandalism (I have seen several with just one or two edits and they are not even blocked so that is not why they quit, why create an account for that?!). Also, I think this user (account or IP) may be looked upon with a new light now, since they have started adding refs. Of course, since you are the (fair) admin and you think they should be blocked, who am I to disagree (it's not very cool on their part to deny the sockpuppetry, that I see)?

Carry on, "see" you --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Harry Harpham
I have tried to amend the personal details for Harry Harpham as they were incorrect. Unfortunately the press have consistently misreported his personal details. He was in fact married twice and had two children from his first marriage. I can not find a good article from the press to use as a citation. Although the guardian obituary is clearer than anything else I have seen reported. Foy007 (talk) 18:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid it needs to be cited by a reliable source; please refer to WP:CITE and WP:V. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:59, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Ross Jenkins
5 Romanian sports news sites like DigiSport, Sport Total FM, oradetimis, timiplus and DolceSport announced the transfer, plus soccerway.com, but ACS Poli Timisoara site is not updated. Rhinen (talk)
 * It needs citing in the article itself. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:12, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Innocent Kalaluka
Do not revert my edit on Stopilla Sunzu's page again; ever. If you do, I will keep reverting it. You are acting as if you know zero about him. HE IS NOT A RESERVE TEAM PLAYER FOR LILLE, BUT A FIRST TEAM PLAYER. SO STOP WRITING THAT HE PLAYS FOR LILLE B AND MISLEADING PEOPLE. That's a big insult to a guy who scored a winning goal in the 2012 Africa Cup final, and that will not be tolerated. If you block me, I will keep re-editing using another computer and I will then block YOU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.55.60.11 (talk) 19:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * But he has played for Lille B, no? Mattythewhite (talk) 19:13, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Emanuel Pogatetz
What. Ewyourfaceew (talk) 02:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * What? Mattythewhite (talk) 02:45, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I literally do not know what you mean.Ewyourfaceew (talk) 23:42, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know how I can explain it more clearly... when you update the appearances and goals in the infobox, you should update the date that is presented in a paramter marked club-update or pcupdate. The correct way of updating the date is by adding five tildes . Mattythewhite (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Re: Carlos Eduardo
He also played 10 matches and scored 10 goals for al-Hilal in domestic and international cups according to Soccerway. I hope you remove your warning. Hazel (talk) 00:26, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As the text at the bottom of the infobox states, "Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only". Mattythewhite (talk) 00:30, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Reliable sources
Hello from Bosnia, Matty!

I was wondering, is national-football-teams.com a reliable source regarding players' club apps? I was thinking of putting that data to Edin Džeko's career statistics table. Thank you! GlabajteMiMuda (talk) 22:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC) GlabajteMiMuda (talk) 22:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * In my experience, this site is regarded as a reliable source for club appearances. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:27, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Joey Barton
So his own website isn't a legitimate source, then? AmorPatiturMoras (talk) 19:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)AmorPatiturMoras
 * Preferably not, per WP:PSTS. Besides, you've added an entirely unsourced statement with: "It was to be his first and only appearance for the national side". Mattythewhite (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, but the Gerrard/Lampard thing is false information and he clarifies that in the interview with Clare Balding, hence the video. I've looked elsewhere for another source, but it seems like no one really cares. Also yes, I'm aware I'm jumping the gun with his sole cap, but let's be honest: he's never going to play for England again. I guess he'll retire in a couple years, and then the statement will be true. AmorPatiturMoras (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2016 (UTC)AmorPatiturMoras
 * I agree it's highly unlikely he'll ever be capped again, but still, it's a statement that needs citing. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Nigel Clough
My edits keep getting taken down despite this being sourced from the soccerbase link number 53.

http://www.soccerbase.com/managers/manager.sd?manager_id=2142 (Ceaton89 (talk) 00:39, 20 February 2016 (UTC))
 * Soccerbase's figures for Burton Albion from that period are not complete, so it would be misleading to our readers to use those figures. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:25, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Miscellaneous
1 - User:Minas7 resorted to something else alright, but not the account, this IP (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.228.65.139);

2 - Xemi: there is already a pertinent discussion at WP:FOOTY, but/and if you feel the article is not up to par, can you please AfD it?

Thanks in advance, attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:24, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * IP blocked and article prodded. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:28, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

3 - Thanks on first two items. Now, having a quick glance at the WP:FOOTY report about Fernando Santos (football coach) and reading all positive comments (especially that of fellow admin GS), can you please move the page to either "Fernando Santos" (with a hatnote, but then I don't know what on earth will we name the disambiguation page) or "Fernando Santos (Portuguese footballer)"? I ask this of thee because it seems only an admin can move page now.

Thanks again --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Moved to "Fernando Santos (Portuguese footballer)". I see the article was named that before it was moved in June 2014 by a user who was indef blocked for disruptive page moves. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:53, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Mistake
Hi, just wanted to notify you about this edit where you made a little mistake. No worries, mistakes happens to everyone, even the best, but I just wanted to let you know anyway so that you maybe can be more careful next time. Especially since you warned the editor who removed the vandalism. Anyway, have a nice day. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 15:07, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

NoahBFC
Getting very tired of this person now, messing up the Brentford player career stats and seemingly being oblivious to their talk page, or emails directing them to new comments on their talk page. I cleaned up all his previous edits for 15-20 players prior to the last Bees match and here we go again. Beatpoet (talk) 21:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Sir gidabout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.155.207.172 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.145.71.88, of course he'll get many more, rangeblock maybe in order?

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Kelechi page
I undetstand but the information on the page was wrong and i was correcting it. I am a city fan you see so i am up to date with goals and caps. Jacob3191 (talk) 08:46, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The infobox accounts for league stats only. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Paddy Kenny
I have tagged the same referrence that is stated in the article at the infobox. If it's not a reliable source, than the whole article needs a cleanup as well. 2001:12F0:614:300:2075:5134:2C7A:E67 (talk) 17:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Tosin Adarabioyo
Hello Matty, could you please move Oluwatosin Adarabioyo to Tosin Adarabioyo per COMMONNAME. He's known as this on the Man City website Tosin Adarabioyo. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:47, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The article existed at Tosin Adarabioyo before apparently made an unexplained cut and paste move.  I believe the correct approach here would be to move the current version back to Tosin Adarabioyo, and link to the Oluwatosin Adarabioyo talk page for attribution. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, would you be so kind to go ahead and do the necessary. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Message
the change I made was the goal he scored that weekend, I was not vandalising the page QueenAlexandria (talk) 22:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Royston Drenthe
Hi there, I do not understand why you say it's not constructive to include the official website of Royston Drenthe in a page of this encyclopedia that talks about it, but even when being its webmaster, I received a request from Royston to add this content. I appreciate if you can include your official website in that Article. http://www.roystonrickydrenthe.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adurruti (talk • contribs) 23:41, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Jonathan Mitchell (footballer)
Hi there, I have made an edit on Jonathan Mitchell as per Wikipedia templates which has been changed and then reverted again by another user. Their change was not per either the WikiProject Football/Players template or the Citation templates and included punctuation errors so I reverted the change, but they reverted this again telling me not to revert again. Please could you take a look at the page and update it as you think it should be. Thanks, LTFC 95. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LTFC 95 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

AEK Larnaca punk
Hi there Matty, updates on this,

two new addresses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.7.106.145 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.228.212.120), the first one is definitely them, similar to another IP address. The second has a different numerical start to it, but the M.O. is the same (AEK Larnaca players edited, ZERO PC update).

Attentively, happy week --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Matic
Why did you revert my edits on matic, when they are correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happymanelp (talk • contribs) 01:35, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Page move
Matty, can you please change Gonzalo Rubén Bergessio to just "Gonzalo Bergessio"? No article in WP comes close to this in title, and when you type just "GB" in the search engine it redirects to the page.

I have already asked this of another user, he says he cannot, maybe this is a case of previous moves having been performed and now the "onus" falls to an admin. By the way, the title of this account may give you a hint as to who is its holder :)

Attentively, thanks in advance --Be Quiet AL (talk) 02:35, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Done, with the edit history of the former redirect now located at Gonzalo Bergessio (footballer), for the sake of attribution. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI I have partially reverted you at Luis Enrique (footballer). I have restored the previous titles to more accurately reflect what the pages are titled, and to more clearly earmark to our readers what each link provides.  I have also restored the work paramaters for the Soccerbase and Soccerway links, IIRC Struway and I explained their usage to you recently. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

1 - Thanks; 2 - I, for one, don't like to make up titles of sources and write EXACTLY what they say, no season appears in the main title of the BDFUTBOL entries. Also, I think it was Struway (can't be sure though) that told me TWO fields is correct but ONE (as far as publisher/work/newspaper's concerned) is also 100% correct, and thus I was aiming for simplicity. Whatever, it stays like that, sorry for the inconvenience. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 14:46, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Update
The content I am trying to add to Jamie guy Wikipedia was removed! It is sorced content as they have a son and someone removed the original text on 25th February! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.81.211 (talk) 22:54, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Please refer to WP:RS and WP:V. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

So it is okay to update information which is not true from a paper but information which is fact can't be updated? That makes sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.81.211 (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Just confused as to why it had been deleted after a year of being on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.81.211 (talk) 23:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Rules and copyright
Hi, you are an admin and edit sports (including football) and I need advise.

I recently looked at 2016 UEFA Women's Olympic Qualifying Tournament and saw User:Diannaa removing tiebreaker rules as copyright and hiding 61 revisions. Are they copyright? It is not something we can change and modify of our own, rules are rules and not something to be interpreted and changed. The tiebreakers are a list of what happens, and it is used on so many articles. I opened discussion at User talk:Diannaa. Please advice. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 22:46, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure I've experienced a situation like this before so I'm not really qualified to comment, is the concern over the wording being exactly the same? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * As the revisions are hidden, I can not say if the wording where exactly the same but I think they where. However, I dont think it should matter as we can not rewrite a list of rules. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 23:18, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Rotherham United club badge
Hi Matty Noticed you around a lot in the history of various football pages, so thought I'd ask for your help. Apologies if this is presumptuous. The club badge on Rotherham United F.C.] - is incorrect. It's the pre-2005 rebranding badge, although to the occasional viewer it's not exactly obvious. I'm happy to fix this, but I have absolutely no idea how to do so. Could you help me out please? Cheers Gricehead (talk) 10:02, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Fixtures
Hi, is it okay to break WP:3RR to remove fixtures protected by UK copyright laws at 2015–16 Leicester City F.C. season? One editor fails to see the issue (discussed at their talkpage). <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't block someone for doing so, but I'd probably err on the side of caution and not, in case another admin sees things differently. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:27, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for your help. I will not do any more edits to the article until case has been resolved. The editor is currently at edit warring noticeboard. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:35, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Creating a page
Greetings from Gemany by a Bosnian user!

I have a question for you. Bosnian national coach today gave a list of players called up for next friendlies and there are two players from Bosnian League who do not have their pages on Wikipedia. So my question is, should I try to make them a page, or wait until they make senior debut?

Thanks Matty HenryChinaski91 (talk) 15:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless they've already played in a fully-professional league, you should wait until they make their debuts, per WP:NFOOTBALL. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:35, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Blues Pills
Hi ! I would like to help you to translate the Blues Pills wikipedia english page to french. I'm french so I can help. I'm also a fan of the band. Are you ok ? I don't know well wikipedia but translating will not be a problem for me. My e-mail : indavoid@gmail.com

I hope you will reply. Musically, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indavoid (talk • contribs) 19:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Guess...
who this is... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * and another... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:43, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Two today: one behaving themselves, one being naughty. I'm guessing rangeblocking the whole of Central Lancashire might inflict too much collateral damage... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * And this one and probably this one. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ++. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * New range, still same area of the country. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

next... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:42, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 86.173.3.112. Do you think it's worth investigating the possibility of range blocks, if you haven't already? Obviously there are multiple ranges, and no doubt some of them are too busy to be blockable, but there might be some smaller ranges that could be... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * A new approach...
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.216.34
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.216.57
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.216.210
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.226.208
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.230.228
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.231.127
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130
 * cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've posted a report at AIV, if there's anything you'd like to add. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:50, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Few more IPs, for a start...
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.212.18
 * Special:Contributions/‎82.132.214.121
 * Special:Contributions/‎82.132.214.175
 * Special:Contributions/‎82.132.215.11
 * Special:Contributions/82.132.232.58 .  Struway2 (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
There used to be a sockmaster called Alex Latham: the SPI is here. His main characteristic was persistence in doing what he did (which was primarily creating nicely formatted short articles about non-notable young footballers by copyvio) with complete indifference to being reported, blocked and having his creations deleted. I just looked at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sir gidabout, and the names of the registered accounts in there are very Lathamesque. He was a Bolton fan, and this Sir gidabout sock edited the Bolton season article. Doesn't matter, and that SPI is stale anyway, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this current timewaster was the same person. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:36, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I wonder if he's also User:Football boys, who has spent years adding falsified managerial appointments and departures. See Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Football boys. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:18, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry
Hi Matt, sorry if my edit of Paul Clement was not constructive and I deeply apologise for that.

ITS JONNY 2016 —Preceding undated comment added 19:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Expired PROD
Hello Matty, could you please delete John Paul Kelly as it has received no objections to deletion. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 13:06, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Haris Medunjanin Netherlands U21 appearances
Hello Matty!

I seemed to notice that there are no apps displayed on Haris' page, so I looked it up on UEFA official site. I found three apps in 2006 and 2007 U21 tournaments, which I left on his talk page. In Haris' Dutch and German Wikipedia pages, it says that he has 4 apps and 3 goals. What do I do? HenryChinaski91 (talk) 17:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Sir pratabout
Hello. Another few IPs from last night: 82.132.235.110, 82.132.239.94, 82.132.239.197

What approach would you advise on reverting? Remove any edit on sight? just remove unsourced rows? assume that if a source is present, it does actually verify the figures? I'm not sure how keen I'd be to check the sources, particularly if they cover multiple seasons and include goals for and against... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ta. If his edits are accurate and fully sourced, I'd leave them be.  But his problem is he tends to only partially cite stuff, like only referencing results and not the start and end dates. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:36, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 86.145.71.54. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:05, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Recent Mathias Pogba edit
Hello I saw that you reverted my recent edit of the page Mathias Pogba with the reason being - notable? I was wondering if I could put the edit back in as I think it is a notable fact as it is only his second goal of the season and brings a 14 game scoreless run to an end. Regards Partickthistle123 Partickthistle123 (talk) 19:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC) Hello I'd appreciate if you could reply thanks. Regards Partickthistle123 (talk)
 * If you added that the goal marked the end of a long scoring drought, that might justify its inclusion. But simply stating "He scored his second goal..." isn't encyclopedic. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:17, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok fair enough. I was wondering if I can put it back in but with the part about the goal ending a long drought? Regards Partickthistle123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Partickthistle123 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

César Azpilicueta - NT chart
If was the first time (to the best of my knowledge) I had seen one of those, so I imagined we could do without the additional clutter. It did not cross my mind (stupidly) that, if it had been inserted, it had been so for a reason.

Sorry for the inconvenience --Be Quiet AL (talk) 00:11, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * We should include captions above tables per Manual of Style/Tables, although they're still taking some catching on. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:20, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Gerardo Martino
I've added sources for some of the games from the official Conmebol site (I'll keep adding more for the other games little by little). The most important source is having watched all of the games that are referenced though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.179.228.242 (talk) 07:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

West Bromwich Albion Edit
Source is the Wikipedia article already linked in the West Bromwich Albion article that clearly shows that the Black Country derby is Wolves vs WBA, Not Villa vs WBA Black Country Derby. NB - No idea how to link external articles but here is the bing search for Black Country derby that clearly shows its Wolves v WBA. https://www.bing.com/search?q=black+country+derby&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=e396e3e402764fe49b3c2fab6a7587f7&pq=black%20country%20derby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.64.201.112 (talk) 23:29, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Reverted back to my change but added a reference. Must say the fact that every rivalry page on Wikipedia lists it as WBA v Wolves should be reference enough but understand the insistence on an external ref! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.64.201.112 (talk) 23:38, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

List of International goals
Hi Mattythewhite. I want to talk about Javier Hernández in which you restored international goals that should not be listed in the articles based on this consensus from WikiProject Football. When there is a notable list they can be created in separate articles such as List of international goals scored by Wayne Rooney, which you mentioned, but the list for "Chicharito" was deleted at this AfD as not notable. Have I missed some new discussion saying that consensus has changed? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 21:56, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe there is more recent consensus to ascertain their notability, but I couldn't link you to a particular discussion. Perhaps  and  know more? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * As noted at the Javier Hernández list AfD, there were later discussions than the one mentioned by above, including this one and this one. There was also another one, in which  asked "Was there or was there not a consensus to remove lists of international goals from player bios?" and  replied "No, I don't think there was. It probably needs a RFC or something." To which TRM said "Ok, in that case, the edits which removed the lists from the bios based on archive 95 discussion really should be undone until a proper discussion is held and concluded."
 * If a proper discussion ever was held and concluded, I must have missed it. But if there wasn't, I'd agree that I see no consensus to remove. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:17, 28 March 2016 (UTC)