User talk:MaungSiliwangi

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Hello, MaungSiliwangi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one of your contributions does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

There's a page about the NPOV policy that has tips on how to effectively write about disparate points of view without compromising the NPOV status of the article as a whole. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! SatuSuro 23:13, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
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October 2012

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 * You are a patriot - this is an online encyclopedia - check WP:NOT, WP:ABOUT, WP:NPOV
 * You do not sign messages WP:SIGN
 * You read your IP address edit talk page and decide to give rants to editors who have reverted your edits WP:AGF WP:CIVIL
 * You misread edit history - we all do that
 * You want to argue with what other editors consider to be non - neutral WP:SOAPBOX WP:NOT
 * You leave unsigned messages that claim your superiority of sources of information - WP:RS and WP:CITE are needed

If your set of messages make you feel better, great, however using MY this and MY THAT suggests that you have a point you want to make WP:POINT

Take care - Hati Hati in your enthusiasm to make your point you might find yourself blocked for a range of reasons. SatuSuro 23:33, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

TRUTH
Kalau bisa, mencari WP:RS tentang semua, sebabnya TRUTH belum cukup disini. mohon maaf, saya lupa banyak, banyak tahun sejak saya tinggal di Indonesia.

Hati hati, WRITING IN CAPITALS IS WP:SHOUTING, dan kurang sopan. SatuSuro 23:21, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Wp en can be a strange place for new editors/users
Seperti itu: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Shouting_things_loudly_does_not_make_them_true

where possible english is meant to be talk page language - this is wp en! not wp id...

please understand that we all took time to understand how this place works... SatuSuro 23:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

November 2012
Hello, I'm Crisco 1492. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Slamet Rijadi, but you didn't provide a reliable source. I've removed it for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Slamet Rijadi. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:03, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

JANGAN
Ok my turn to use CAPITALS.

Mungkin mahu BLOCKED cepat? Kalau begitu, terus terus dengan edits sekarang.

OK my turn to explain in english.

You are adding uncited POV phrases and terms (with CAPITALS) which have to be deleted/reverted.

Why? because Wikipedia WP:ABOUT, and WP:NOT - is not a BLOG or POLITICAL SOAPBOX - but an online encyclopedia.

So WP:NPOV is essential. Most of your edits to Slamet Rijadi are fine if you had your own blog, but for WP:MOS

in an online encyclopedia, you are heading for certain loss of rights. BLOCK. finish.

You need to understand that you are here to learn how wikipedia works... If you do that and show signs of understanding fine.

However if you are here to tell us what the TRUTH is - in your way of expressing yourself in your style without adequate referencing -

you are simply going to learn the experience of how a system of an online encyclopedia cannot allow your style to alter articles.

Its your choice - listen and learn to what we advise, or tell us what to do and get blocked. SatuSuro 13:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Tapi kali ini aku ngeedit dalam dgn guideline situs wiki Kali ini aku nuliskan dalam topiknya tanpa Kapital , Aku tidak ganti teks tt Jendral slamet Riyadi hanya menkoreksikan kesalahan Aku baca dlam teksnya Slamet Riyadi di sebutkan Prajurit itu tidak betul dialsh perwira tinggi TKR , Yg ke2 ada tertulis bokapnya Dia seorang tentara kesultanan, Surakarta bukan kesultanan Tapi kesusuhunan kesusuhunan posisinya lebih tinggi dari sultan, Seorang sultan dan susuhunan itu beda , Yg ke3 ada yg ngeklaim info yg aku tambah itu unreliable source ? Info yang ku nambah tu info dari Arsip Nasional, Arsip TNI aku nambah info langsung dari situs pemerintah RI Bagaimana info dari pemerintah RI bisa unreliable ! Pemerintah kita lebih tahu tentang hal itu dari pada info dari seorang asing yang hanya baca artikel arrikel tentang hal ini dan menuliskan analis, org ngeklaim aku menulis analis sendirj itu tidak betul aku tulis yang betul Aku hanya mau info yang betul, dan tulis tegas jelas supaya orang orang Asing juga bisa tahu sejarah kita supaya mereka bisa ngerti kisah Indonesia kita yang tercinta , aku tidak makxud untuk merinut ma org org lain aku tidak maksud untuk memberikan kritik dlam seriap artikel tapi sejarah kita harus di beritahukan dengan sunggu sunggu harus betul, dan tidak bokeh beda dari kebenaran , kalau aku baca artikel artikel yang tidak benar aku menkoreksi supaya orang orang lain juga tahu apa yang benar, IR.ARI.WAHYU.MARTADINATA (talk) 19:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

English please - this is english wikipedia. If you choose to keep writing in Indonesian no one will understand what you are saying. If you cannot get a handle on WP:NPOV and feel a need to correct what you see are mistakes, perhaps WP en is not the place for you... SatuSuro 23:38, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah so in English This time wrote accoding to these rules I did not use capital captions, I merely corrected some incorrect information such as that Slanet Riyadi was a soldier The corrct way to be adressed officer not just a mere soldier,

2nd Sultan's Army, is not even a correct translation Surakarta is not a sultanate The Javanese title Susuhunan is higher ranked than sultan infirmation such information should be noted correctly 3rd I fill in from a unreliable source was said. Indonesian National archive, and National Armed Forces my information is by the Indonesian government how can that be unreliable Than what does one call information written by foreign resources who write a analysis about what they have written in a articke about Indonesia Written by non Indonesian observation than claiming these resources armore reliable than that of the Indonesian government / National. Archive I highly disagree on that history gas to be recorded correctly and not cencored as is often the case en yclopedias should be all about recording acurate information IR.ARI.WAHYU.MARTADINATA (talk) 00:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)