User talk:Mauriziok/Mister Global

Fictitious references
Several fictitious references (i.e. references which do not support/are unrelated to the point they are supposed to back up) have been removed from this article (for the second time).

Rationale (originally stated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mister Global) as follows:

Eton B. makes a single passing mention of "Mister Global". Julie M. Aurelio, The Philippine Star and Philippines Daily Inquirer write about completely different pageants (check the names and dates) with no mentions of this "Mister Global" competition.

ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 12:00, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no guideline suggesting that it is permitted to delete references simply because one contributor feels there is only a "passing mention" -- particularly in an article up for deletion. All of the references you removed refer to people who were in the Mister Global pageant, so to describe them as "fictitious" is bizarre. All are reliable sources. It does not matter whether each reference is focused on a different pageant (since contestants typically enter different pageants) -- they all include information relevant to an article up for deletion. Let reviewers and the closing admin decide these things. Removing references, which mention the subject, during a deletion review is, for me, borderline vandalism.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What you have written makes absolutely no sense so I'll tell you (again) why the references you inserted were wrong: The article is about an annual pageant and the date is stated within the article. And yet you contrived to cite three articles referring to different pageants on different dates. Now you claim it "doesn't matter" the citations don't refer to the article's subject and that they were "reliable". Let me quote you WP:FAKE - "The citation of non-existent references, or references that are known to be irrelevant, to support article information, is forbidden.". So, I'll tell you again, do not insert false references. And make sure you read articles before citing them in an article. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 12:50, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. The Manila Standard said Joseph Doruelo took the title Mister Global Philippines along with the Philippine Daily Inquirer said Mister Global Philippines Joseph Doruelo and The Nation said Mister Global Philippines Joseph Doruelo. These references all pertain to the article up for deletion -- about Philippine contestant Joseph Doruelo in the Mister Global pageant. Are the references perfect or ideal? No, but few references are, and removing them when an article is up for deletion seems highly unfair.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You are either a liar or illiterate. Mister Global 2014 (the inaugural Mister Global event) took place on March 27, 2014 in Pak Chong. As for your "sources":  Julie M. Aurelio and Philippines Daily Inquirer refer to an event on September 7, 2014 in Makati and a future event in South Korea, The Philippine Star refers to an event on November 30, 2013 in Greenhills. Conclusion - either you are incapable of reading the articles you are trying to cite or you are simply lying about it in a desperate attempt to save face. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 22:32, 15 November 2014 (UTC)