User talk:Max1234x

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Speedy deletion nomination of ValueAct Capital


A tag has been placed on ValueAct Capital, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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August 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from ValueAct Capital, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you.  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 07:45, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Moved the article and a note about notability
Hey, I moved the article to User:Max1234x/ValueAct Capital. The article had multiple problems, but you did show a willingness to work on it, so I transferred it to your userspace.

First off, the article had a definite promotional tone to it. One passage that stood out especially was "ValueAct Capital is a very active investor that identifies companies that appear to be out of favor, or may be undergoing a significant transition. ValueAct makes a significant investment into the company and then seeks to pressure the company to make changes with goal of increasing the stock value and thus creating a profit for ValueAct." I don't necessarily think it was your intention, but this came across like something a publicity department would write for a press release. You need to write things more neutrally when it comes to listing things that the company does.

Now as far as notability goes, you must must MUST use reliable sources. The company's website is considered a WP:PRIMARY source and cannot show notability. The Business Insider article is good, but I'd be very careful about what you use it to cite. The problem is that the article doesn't outright say that the company is responsible for Ballmer leaving Microsoft. Now the Seattle Times article does, which is what I'd personally recommend using. However I'd recommend that you write it along the lines of "The Seattle Times' Jay Greene theorized that the pressure from the announcement might have played a role as one of the reasons that Steve Ballmer decided to leave Microsoft." You can't just say that it was one of the reasons, that's considered to be original research. You can say that notable persons theorized that it was one of the reasons, but you can't outright say it. (And the persons MUST be considered notable and/or be commented upon by a reliable source.) I'd also avoid the word "threat", as that doesn't sound neutral in tone. You have to be very, very careful about maintaining WP:NPOV.

The final thing is that you need to have more than just a few sources on the article when posting it to the mainspace. Make sure not to WP:OVERCITE, but too few sources will cause many other editors to believe that the article has no notability. It would be nice if they looked for sources, but not every editor does this so when posting directly on the mainspace you have to ensure that the article is properly sourced to show notability per WP:CORP.

In any case, you can polish this up and re-add it to the mainspace when you've cleared up the neutrality issues and added a few more sources. I'd also recommend that you get someone from WikiProject Companies and especially WikiProject Microsoft to help you out with fleshing out the article and working on it. They can really help when it comes to finding sources, adding information, and providing guidance when you're writing your first article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:20, 26 August 2013 (UTC)