User talk:Maxbps

May 2007
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. Please always observe our core policies.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 15:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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The reason that race relations are made prominent at Cincinnati, Ohio versus Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania are because of the high-profile riots and cases that made national news. If this happened elsewhere and were high-profile, I would expect similar articles to be made about them as well.

Please note that the article I cited needs major improvements, so it should not be used as a shining example. It is horribly non-neutral and unsourced.

I didn't revert your edits but those of another editor who was removing population citations, however, if you need more assistance or want me to look over something, I'm more than willing to do so :-) Cheers,  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 21:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops. I didn't answer your second question. To add sources without stating it as a link, you can use the citation templates (now my personal favorite). Insert in tags, then insert in the template and that should work. For multiple instances of the same reference, just use and reference it down the page later as . You can find more about that here.   Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 02:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * If St. Louis, Missouri doesn't have a race relations page, perhaps it would be nice to include one, if there was a notable incident(s). For Cincinnati, the riots did happen and were notable --
 * "African-Americans were outraged. Within days, the anger and frustration that had been building for years spilled into the streets. Rioters broke windows, looted stores, burned trash bins and threw bricks at passing motorists. A city once known as a good place to live and raise kids was embarrassed and stunned."
 * "Now, the brief, breathless dispatches on the mayor's scanner told of a city out of control. Already, hundreds of people were in jail and dozens had been treated for injuries. Fires were burning, and roving bands of thugs were pulling motorists from their cars. Police in riot gear were fighting back with guns, clubs and chemical spray. Property was looted and destroyed in communities from Over-the-Rhine to Norwood. Businesses suffered hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage. The violence grew worse by the hour. [...] Blocks away, a mob pulled a white man from his car and beat him. Looters raided and burned a furniture store, carrying off lamps, chairs, even a big-screen TV. But some of the worst damage, and perhaps the most lasting, was to Cincinnati's image."
 * Just a simple Google query on "Cincinnati riots" provide detailed information on the riots -- which were more than the paltry brick being thrown that you described.
 * As a nice bit of advice, please initiate a discussion before starting controversal changes that were added in consensus by other editors. Your edits have been so far reverted by not only me, but others that agree that the riots were not only notable, but should be included on the front page. Just because other cities do not include them does not mean that it did not happen -- it only opens the doors for future articles on those cities.
 * Also, please sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ) on talk pages.
 * Cheers,  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 18:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)