User talk:Maxigee

==Speedy deletion nomination of Matthew Walker, Sr., M.D., Fellow of the American College of Surgeons, Fellow of the International College of Surgeons: Surgeon and Extraordinary Gentleman==

A tag has been placed on Matthew Walker, Sr., M.D., Fellow of the American College of Surgeons, Fellow of the International College of Surgeons: Surgeon and Extraordinary Gentleman, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Bhockey10 (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have edited the article a bit to make it read more like a bio in an encyclopedia and less like a memorial or funeral oration, and moved it to a more encyclopedic title, Matthew Walker, Sr., M.D.. It must have inline references to reliable sources to establish the accuracy of the things said, and only encyclopedic biographical details belong in it. If there were a biography in a medical journal when he died, that would be a good source of information. Where did all the personal recollections come from? They must be sourced to WP:RS reliable sources, and not just someone's unpublished personal recollections. If he was a department head at a medical college, if institutions were named for him, and if his publications were frequently cited by other researchers, then he might satisfy the notability guidelines WP:BIO and WP:PROF. His being a really fine person does not satisfy those guidelines. The article will need to be pared down a bit more, and some referencing is needed. It cannot stand as just a memorial (See WP:NOT). Thanks for your contribution. Edison (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You added some web sites to the article, but by "references," I meant that we need citations to particular sources to support particular claims. You just provided some websites. What fact that you have stated does each one show? I can format them so the refs display properly, but I need to know the source of every claim made in the article, and just having some websites lumped together at the end of the article will not suffice. Thanks. Edison (talk) 02:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * With a bit of editing and by finding and bringing in a few more references, I think it should satisfy the notability standards WP:BIO and WP:PROF. If  independent and reliable sources, such as the J.N.M.A articles, and books published by University Presses or other respected publishers, or newspaper and magazine articles, establish notability, then more personal details might be included which do not by them selves establish notability (Like falling off the porch into the flood, or going fishing) but they need to be verifiable by reference to some source, even if it is a transcription of his personal reminiscence recording, or some autobiographical writing by him, or family history written down by his children, and perhaps donated to the archives of Meharry, or published in a family-created website about him, where it could in principle be viewed by others. Your or others' personal knowledge is not enough to verify things stated in an article. I do not work much with images, but if some were placed at a website about him created by his family, and if that website stated they complied with Wikipedia's licensing rules Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License,  then those images could  certainly be included.  Images since 1928 or so would still be considered to belong to the copyright holder or owner and Wikipedia is not free to use them without permission, in general. Sometimes small images in low resolution are used under a "fair use" claim without such permission. It is possible for the owners of photos to contact Wikipedia and give the requireed permission for their use.  Best wishes. Edison (talk) 02:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The article stated that Mrs. Walker attended "Northwest University in Chicago," which I cannot find reference to. Could that have been in fact Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, just north of Chicago?Edison (talk) 03:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)