User talk:Maximuspryme

Self-reference
The citation you provided was not sufficient to support the general declarative statement you added. At the very least a page number or other locating information is needed, but in any case, even if properly supported, it's the opinion of one philosopher and does not appear to me to be a true statement about philosophy in general. If it is, you need a citation that says that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:05, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm... the general claim you are supported has no foundation. The wikipedia begins with the statement that self-reference is about language. Philosophy has its roots in logic, why would it support a different definition of self-reference. Furthermore, there is no philosopher that shows that the 'I' is self-referential. I was just providing an example of one who would argue that this is impossible. The Stanford Encyclopedia explicitly says that the self-reference is studying in terms of language in philosophy. "In philosophy, self-reference is primarily studied in the context of language. Self-reference within language is not only a subject of philosophy, but also a field of individual interest in mathematics and computer science, in particular in relation to the foundations of these sciences." The concept of I has more to do with subjectivity. I find your claim to be unfounded in any philosophical literature and poorly researched.
 * You want to argue philosophy, all I want is for you to properly support any material you add to an article with a citation from a reliable source. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * How is Stanford University not a reliable source?
 * Please read WP:RS. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:07, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I give up. Please do whatever you need to, but I will tell you that this page is wrong. And there is no evidence to back up the claim about philosophy as the page is right now. I find it very frustrating that I have given citations from a University and that it is still not enough. I have read the page, and I find no reason to find my citation as an non-reliable source. I have asked you what particularly is wrong with my source and you have failed to mention what it is. I frankly don't care. I thought I would help some students by fixing this glaring error, however I have no time to do this for free. Please don't message me again. I will not be contributing any more to this website.
 * If the article is wrong, please fix it. Simply provide a citation that supports your contention. Universities don't write books, people do. Give an author, title, publication date, page reference number, etc. just as you would in any academic paper, and make sure that the citation upholds the statement you wish to add. It's as simple as that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:52, 16 December 2011 (UTC)