User talk:MayThe2nd/Archive

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Happy editing! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:42, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022
Hi MayThe2nd! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of an article several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Looking at User talk:2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D, I think you may already be aware of this and probably did the right thing; just please take care not to re-revert if this happens again. Finding a good discussion venue for this is tough; WP:DR offers some advice.
 * If it becomes an edit war and you'd like to report it, Special:Diff/1091614330 may be useful: The user has now been warned, and you can refer to this warning at WP:ANEW. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks for your help.
 * May I ask you some questions?
 * Could you please explain more information about WP:Edit warring, WP:3RR, or some more things that I should know?
 * If it happen again (someone revert my edit to their preferred version), how can I do about it?
 * Sincerely
 * MayThe2nd (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking Face-smile.svg
 * The situation is unusual; I'd normally suggest having a discussion on the article's talk page. As the edits affect many articles, asking a WikiProject may be an option. The talk page of any article, such as Talk:Prayut Chan-o-cha, lists some projects that could be relevant. How about asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand?
 * If a discussion there shows that it's really a controversial matter, starting an RfC about it could help. But before it comes to this, please kindly invite 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D (or all later IP addresses they use) to the discussion. Please see can be used to do so in a neutral, inviting way.
 * Regarding edit warring, when it happens on this scale, it quickly becomes so extremely disruptive that editors participating in it will likely be blocked from editing, even if they make less than 3 reverts per day. The "three revert rule" is thus almost irrelevant in this context. The general idea, and all you really need to know about the edit warring policy, is not to re-revert when your revert has been reverted. This can be tough especially if the other user refuses to discuss, so WP:DISCFAIL provides some advice. It's only an essay, not an authoritative policy or guideline, and it's about single-article content disputes, but it's so well-written and full of helpful advice that I wanted to share it here.
 * A very helpful place for asking for advice is the Teahouse; the people there know Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and answer questions that may arise about these when editing.
 * All the best, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:16, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm sadly to tell you that it's happening again, now.
 * please help
 * MayThe2nd (talk) 15:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the timely ping. I have stopped the mass revert in the middle of the process, leaving some articles in your preferred and some articles in their preferred revision. Now is the chance to start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand.
 * Please don't revert until a consensus is found.
 * Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please find a better venue for having the discussion than User talk:2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D; practically any page starting with "Wikipedia:" is better than a specific IPv6's user talk page. Please remove your latest message from User talk:2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D and provide the arguments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand (or similar) instead, and then invite the other user to the discussion (using Please see, for example, as described before). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Very big thanks for coming in time.
 * Face-smile.svg
 * Could you please start a new topic there and ping me and that user to find a consensus.
 * Sincerely
 * MayThe2nd (talk) 15:26, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * In addition I think that IPv6 user have an account as Doublebkkfc this user continue to edit with this account see 5 undid revision by this user on: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Doublebkkfc
 * All The Best, MayThe2nd (talk) 15:48, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hope the information above can help
 * Danke, MayThe2nd (talk) 15:53, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The account was created in 2016. If you have evidence for sockpuppetry, you could provide it at WP:SPI, but I'd be surprised. Asking can't hurt, though, and I see you already did so on their talk page. Sadly, again making content-based arguments that don't belong on user talk pages.
 * Regarding the new section, please create it yourself. There's a "New section" link at the top of the page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand § Presidents of Thailand: Number in infoboxes?
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand § Presidents of Thailand: Number in infoboxes?. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:03, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ –– MayThe2nd (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

A warning in advance
, I see that you're drafting a sockpuppetry accusation in the time I had hoped to be spent on providing content-based arguments in a central place. This is why I have now created the discussion section linked above, which I had hoped for you to create yourself.

So here's a warning in advance. When you discuss the content in the above-linked discussion, please keep it strictly about the content, not the users involved. Personal attacks and accusations of sockpuppetry will be removed, possibly together with the rest of a message that contains them. The sockpuppetry evidence can be provided at WP:SPI, and if there is good evidence (I didn't read through your draft, and I don't judge), then the experienced administrators at WP:SPI will block the sockpuppeteer and their socks. All I personally am looking for is a strict separation of content discussions (linked above, please join) and conduct discussions (yet to be created by you, and only at WP:SPI). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:12, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅, you can see it here: Sockpuppet investigations/Doublebkkfc
 * MayThe2nd (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)